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ifukeditup
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Somebody tell me what I'm effing up.
#20189306 - 06/26/14 01:28 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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First time growing. Please be patient with me. Started out May 1st with b+ and Cambodian. Lost all of the b+ and some of the Cambodians to contam. (Pre-made jars=almost certain failure) 2 Cambodian jars lived. Took about 5 weeks to colonize. Birthed 8 days ago. I like to think that I've done well on creating a happy environment for my cakes but if that were the case I wouldn't be humbling myself before all of you pleading for advice. So far in my alleged "happy environment" they both have grown a lot of white fuzz. No discoloration or bad smells. Looks like mycelium that isn't matted down. One of them developed little pin heads about 3 days ago that have ceased to grow and the other cake has little white firm knots on it that have no "caps". I'm lost at this point. Seriously lost. I can post pics later but for now, please blindly offer advice without seeing what I'm working with
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MonkeyJesusFresco
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Re: Somebody tell me what I'm effing up. [Re: ifukeditup]
#20189325 - 06/26/14 01:31 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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"happy environments" are usually hell for mushrooms.
have you built a SGFC (shotgun fruiting chamber)?
if not, use the search function of this site.
most likely all your troubles will just go away after that
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Re: Somebody tell me what I'm effing up. [Re: ifukeditup]
#20189343 - 06/26/14 01:36 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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well it would be hard to give advice without seeing your setup.
there could be many things gone wrong, and then again everything may be fine.
what are you using as a fruiting chamber? how often do you mist and fan? those knots should form into mushrooms if given the right conditions. those pins that stop developing probably stopped because of improper conditions, maybe they really haven't stopped, it takes a while for the little guys to mature, but any more than 3 or 4 days with no growth you know theres something wrong. get pictures up as soon as possible, of your whole setup.
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ifukeditup
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My "happy environment" is what I considered to be the best sgfc my hands could make and I followed all instruction perfectly. I'm pretty sure the fuzz is fine so I'm not sweating that too much, I'm more concerned with the knots. They don't look like aborts. They almost look like mushrooms that have decided to grow inward.
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Re: Somebody tell me what I'm effing up. [Re: ifukeditup]
#20189838 - 06/26/14 03:54 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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you need pictures man if you want a good answer, when you can snap a few upload to the site and paste em to this thread
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ifukeditup
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Re: Somebody tell me what I'm effing up. [Re: supernewfie]
#20190192 - 06/26/14 05:08 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Here are a couple pics of the cakes. More pics of my setup in a lil bit. My concern is the large lumps on one of them.
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Re: Somebody tell me what I'm effing up. [Re: ifukeditup]
#20190557 - 06/26/14 06:30 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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You need to lay the cakes on something smaller like a piece of tinfoil or a jar lid cover. That big lid takes up a bit too much surface on the pearlite and also pooling water.. How often are you misting and fanning? Where is your sgfc located? Are the holes in your chamber 2 inch by 2 inch in a grid pattern? It looks like its really fuzzing up, as for the fuzz lump in the first picture on the side of the cake im not too sure whats happening but it does look like mycelium.
If you rolled those cakes they should have fruited a flush atleast before colonozing the verm completely like that. Did you roll them in vermiculite?
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ifukeditup
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Re: Somebody tell me what I'm effing up. [Re: supernewfie]
#20193408 - 06/27/14 09:37 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Here is my setup
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mah
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Re: Somebody tell me what I'm effing up. [Re: ifukeditup]
#20193439 - 06/27/14 09:44 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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that doesn't look like an sgfc...
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MonkeyJesusFresco
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Quote:
MonkeyJesusFresco said: "happy environments" are usually hell for mushrooms.
have you built a SGFC (shotgun fruiting chamber)?
if not, use the search function of this site.
most likely all your troubles will just go away after that 
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MonkeyJesusFresco
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lol is that perlite or just rocks???
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I can't imagine they're getting much fresh air in that tank.
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MastaBlastar
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Re: Somebody tell me what I'm effing up. [Re: mah]
#20193633 - 06/27/14 10:48 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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mah said: that doesn't look like an sgfc...
Its not, its a terrarium. People have used setups like this for a long time and gotten good results. Did you dunk your cakes and then roll them in verm? It kinda does not look like it. Also, is that vermiculite you are using in the bottom or rocks? Either way, It's supposed to be pearlite, since pearlite is porous and has a MUCH larger surface area than just rocks and the larger surface area is needed to properly evaporate water and control the rH in the terrarium. I imagine you need to fan a LOT as well since it is not getting FAE. A SGFC is generally better for FAE for cakes. You could try and drill holes in the tank if its polycarb and not glass.
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Edited by MastaBlastar (06/27/14 10:56 AM)
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Re: Somebody tell me what I'm effing up. [Re: MastaBlastar]
#20193648 - 06/27/14 10:52 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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MastaBlastar said:
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mah said: that doesn't look like an sgfc...
Its not, its a terrarium. People have used setups like this for a long time and gotten good results. Did you dunk your cakes and then roll them in verm? It kinda does not look like it. Also, is that nermiculite you are using in the bottom? It's supposed to be pearlite.
People haven't used aquariums in years, because they suck at dissipating gasses.
And perlite in a tub with no holes is kind of pointless.
The cakes are begging for more FAE....build a proper SGFC and make them happy..
They need constant FAE, a bubbler in a cup is not going to do it justice.
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EvilMushroom666's Pasteurization Tek, How It Should & Shouldn't Look - NEW CULTIVATORS GUIDE
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MastaBlastar
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Re: Somebody tell me what I'm effing up. [Re: PussyFart]
#20193661 - 06/27/14 10:55 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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PussyFart said:
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MastaBlastar said:
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mah said: that doesn't look like an sgfc...
Its not, its a terrarium. People have used setups like this for a long time and gotten good results. Did you dunk your cakes and then roll them in verm? It kinda does not look like it. Also, is that nermiculite you are using in the bottom? It's supposed to be pearlite.
People haven't used aquariums in years, because they suck at dissipating gasses.
And perlite in a tub with no holes is kind of pointless.
The cakes are begging for more FAE....build a proper SGFC and make them happy..
They need constant FAE, a bubbler in a cup is not going to do it justice.
I was still finishing my statement lol. Read my finished statement.
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MonkeyJesusFresco
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Re: Somebody tell me what I'm effing up. [Re: MastaBlastar]
#20193663 - 06/27/14 10:56 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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People have used setups like this for a long time and gotten good results.
MonkeyJesusFresco looks at original post...
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MastaBlastar
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And i am just saying people have used it and it CAN work, not that its ideal. Pussyfart gets his queef on correcting people. I always recommend going to rye berries and coir in monotubs. It's about the same costs in materiel but the payoff is so much bigger. Fuck cakes.
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Edited by MastaBlastar (06/27/14 10:59 AM)
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Re: Somebody tell me what I'm effing up. [Re: MastaBlastar]
#20193686 - 06/27/14 11:03 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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MastaBlastar said: Pussyfart gets his queef on correcting people.
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THIS HOBBY IS NOT FOR THE IMPATIENT! PLEASE BE PATIENT, DON'T BE A PATIENT!
A Tale of 10 Isolates, GT Cluster Clone Monotubs, RR's Let's Grow Mushrooms DVD,
SGFC(Shotgun Fruiting Chamber), Monotub Tek, Damion5050's Coir Tek, TL's Tek List, Frank's Tek List,
EvilMushroom666's Pasteurization Tek, How It Should & Shouldn't Look - NEW CULTIVATORS GUIDE
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ifukeditup
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Re: Somebody tell me what I'm effing up. [Re: PussyFart]
#20193805 - 06/27/14 11:36 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hi, okay guys 2 chicks are working on this project it's our first time were on our way to get paralite, but this is the new chamber that I built , thank you so much for all your help information and lack of sarcasm Truly appreciate Ventilation two by twos all sides and up-and-down raised on 2 inch blocks d
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MonkeyJesusFresco
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Re: Somebody tell me what I'm effing up. [Re: ifukeditup]
#20193814 - 06/27/14 11:38 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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girls?!?!
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