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OfflineTrippinSpinners
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Is casing really that much more difficult for a noob?
    #2018327 - 10/17/03 05:39 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I have a very nice setup and all of the important tools. This will be my first grow. I was thinking of making a little experiment by doing six jars following the pk tek and using six(?) jars for the casing method. From what I've read so far in this forum, the casing method yields at least twice the about as the regular cake method. So my question is, as a noob, should I go ahead and try both methods, or just try the cake method?


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Re: Is casing really that much more difficult for a noob? [Re: TrippinSpinners]
    #2018405 - 10/17/03 06:19 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Go for it man... what's it gonna put you out if you mess up? 6 cakes? how much did they cost to make? 5 bucks max? maybe another 10 for spores if you bought a syringe...

I say go for it. And dunk and roll your cakes!

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Re: Is casing really that much more difficult for a noob? [Re: TrippinSpinners]
    #2018644 - 10/17/03 08:15 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

case case case...
case case case...
case your shroomies
case your shroomies!

(to the tune of shake your booty)


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Re: Is casing really that much more difficult for a noob? [Re: starseed]
    #2018658 - 10/17/03 08:20 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

With these strains?

Lipa Yai
Koh Samoi
Hawaiian


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Re: Is casing really that much more difficult for a noob? [Re: Tremor1127]
    #2018660 - 10/17/03 08:21 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)


Yeah try casing em. I always go with 60/40 coco-coir and verm and it works well.

On the other side, I decided to grow cakes again and try fruiting em in a poor mans pod to see if it gives better results and man, i'm impressed by the results. I'm able to get around 10 dried g. per cakes so far. Not much work for great results. I'm not really sure if cased PF cakes will do better than that anyway. I prefer casing grains anyway.

If you have around 30 bucks, you should have a look to the poor mans pod. Quite simple to build. Thanks to Magash for this one.

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Re: Is casing really that much more difficult for a noob? [Re: fIsh in my head]
    #2018668 - 10/17/03 08:23 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

poor mans pod still works the same way with casing, right?


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Re: Is casing really that much more difficult for a noob? [Re: TrippinSpinners]
    #2018673 - 10/17/03 08:25 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

The first time that I cased I got trich!

But, I put perlite with water on the bottom. After that I did a strict 50/50 casing and have not failed since!

Case, but be very careful and you will be allright.


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Re: Is casing really that much more difficult for a noob? [Re: sirreal]
    #2018683 - 10/17/03 08:28 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

sirreal said:
The first time that I cased I got trich!
After that I did a strict 50/50 casing and have not failed since!

Case, but be very careful and you will be allright.




50/50 = verm./??? that coir shit, peat moss, birdseed? which works the best?


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Re: Is casing really that much more difficult for a noob? [Re: TrippinSpinners]
    #2018687 - 10/17/03 08:30 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I use verm/peat moss. that works just fine.

I always get plenty! :nut: 


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Re: Is casing really that much more difficult for a noob? [Re: sirreal]
    #2018691 - 10/17/03 08:31 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Substrate= WBS


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Re: Is casing really that much more difficult for a noob? [Re: sirreal]
    #2018696 - 10/17/03 08:32 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah that's a major misconception. Casing is not much harder at all.


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Re: Is casing really that much more difficult for a noob? [Re: sirreal]
    #2018698 - 10/17/03 08:33 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

do your sterilize the casing???? If so how? Microwave? Oven? PC? I could imagine that putting peat moss in the microwave or oven would smell terrible.


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Re: Is casing really that much more difficult for a noob? [Re: TrippinSpinners]
    #2018751 - 10/17/03 08:51 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)


Yeah, I fruit cakes and casings in the poor mans pod. The pod gives around 99% RH. When it's time to fruit casing, it doesn't really matter if you have 90% RH or 99% RH, as long as your casing layer is moist.

50/50 usually refers to 50% peat moss and 50% vermiculite (some people like to add a bit of crushed oyster shell to get to good PH)

60/40 usually refers to 60% coco coir and 40% vermiculite (no need for PH equilibration for this one).

The 60/40 is the only I tried so far and it works really well. I noticed over time that mycellium really like to colonize the coco coir massively and I guess you may easily have overlay if you incubate too much but that was never a problem for me.

Just try any of the casing teks around here and you will have great results, as long as you are clean enough.

I sterilize my casing layer by putting the mix in sealed quart jars and PCing it at 15 psi for an hour. Works really good. I also sterilize some lightly moist vermiculite in the PC for a thin bottom layer in the casing. I like the idea of the bottom layer but I always make sure it's 100% sterile because I fail automaticaly if it's not.

hope it helps. Just read the faqs. None of the information above come from me. I'm just telling you stuff I read on this board during the last months.

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Re: Is casing really that much more difficult for a noob? [Re: fIsh in my head]
    #2018773 - 10/17/03 08:58 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Casing=more risk for contams. Be clean! And as Capn said dunk and roll the cakes. Cakes love to dry out.


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Re: Is casing really that much more difficult for a noob? [Re: Smaug]
    #2018824 - 10/17/03 09:12 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I think I'm going to try the WBS as my substrate with the 60/40 as my casing. Is a 12"x12" baking tin pan good for casing? how big of an area will one half pint cover?

Thanks a lot guys!


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Re: Is casing really that much more difficult for a noob? [Re: TrippinSpinners]
    #2020182 - 10/18/03 10:59 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

If you have a PC then definitely case..thats what I did in my first grow and I only did PF tek to say I did and see how different the results were...I am also currently about to case some BRF jars for the shit of it.


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Re: Is casing really that much more difficult for a noob? [Re: Horseman]
    #2020237 - 10/18/03 11:58 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

  I think I'm going to try the WBS as my substrate with the 60/40 as my casing. Is a 12"x12" baking tin pan good for casing? how big of an area will one half pint cover? 




:wtf:  You are going to spawn cakes into  WBS and case  60/40  ?

Just case the cakes  in 60/40 Coir/Verm like everyone said.. 

Cased cake in PMP!




If you are only growing cakes and want to do something like a WBS tek,then you have to crumble and spawn your cake to Poo or another nutrient rich substrate....

If you are going to spawn your cakes use 1/2 pt in about 1.5 Qts of nutrient rich substate

Skippy spawned  a  1/2 pint to a small container with poo the results of this type of tek are always better but thats another topic ....




BTW...................
Starseed
case case case...
case case case...
case your shroomies
case your shroomies!
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Re: Is casing really that much more difficult for a noob? [Re: NewSpore]
    #2021044 - 10/18/03 07:21 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

NewSpore said:

:wtf:  You are going to spawn cakes into  WBS and case  60/40  ?





Ya, excuse my terminology, going to take a bit to learn this language.

What i was trying to say is im going the Case the WBS in 60/40 or 50/50, maybe a couple of each to see works best for my conditions. The only thing I'm not quite sure about is the area that one half pint jar will cover. Someone said 1 quart for every half pint, but the area depends on how deep you make the casing. Also, is that 1 quart for both layers or just the bottom layer?

:nut:Sorry about all the questions, still learning..... u were there once.   


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Re: Is casing really that much more difficult for a noob? [Re: TrippinSpinners]
    #2021101 - 10/18/03 07:51 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

umm, did i miss the part where someone should say, FIND SOME HORSE POO AND SPAWN THAT, itl blow your mind


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