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OfflineBitter Cactus
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Re: Is depersonalization forever [Re: foodofthegods44]
    #20170423 - 06/22/14 08:26 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

My tip. Quit the weed!!!!


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Re: Is depersonalization forever [Re: foodofthegods44]
    #20170482 - 06/22/14 08:36 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

By the sounds of it weed is at the heart of a lot of DP cases. Not worth the risk.  I was hoping that mushies couldn't cause it.

Thanks, and I will take your advice. It's just too bad because the only times I have ever really enjoyed weed was after my DP had subsided.


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Re: Is depersonalization forever [Re: xbloodwhipx]
    #20170899 - 06/22/14 10:03 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

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Back in 2010 i had a really, REALLY bad case of pure O. (obsessional thoughts/OCD)

I was obsessed with my vision, i feared losing it to the point where losing it is all i thought about. I dont know what triggered this. But i cured myself by curing the fear. I dont even remember how i did that but im not scared of it anymore and it no longer is all i think about.

Well i have had depersonalization really bad since 2012. It got REALLY bad this year but i never paid it any attention because i was always high as a kite. But now im 3 weeks sober and i cant help but notice it. Its destroying my life, i cant focus on anything and feel so disconnected. everything around me looks funny and i feel seperate from my self and like im not in reality. Its all i think about anymore.

Will i be like this forever? I cant take it anymore. Someone give me a positive recover story or something. Im becoming severely depressed because this is ruining my life.



don't do any drugs. nothing. then, go exercise, eat right, make a couple solid friends and just breathe/relax. you'll be ok dude


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Re: Is depersonalization forever [Re: ButteredToast] * 1
    #20170928 - 06/22/14 10:09 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

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Nope it's not permanent. Find a hobby, preferably one that's outdoors and makes you feel alive, I started mountain biking for example. Exercise (hobby and exercise can be one in the same). Eat healthy. Do what makes you happy (not drugs tho, not often at least). Make an effort to talk to people. Talking to people was a huge step for me when I was recovering from drug abuse/depersonalizaion/depression/anxiety, all kinds of problems. Just start little by little.. don't talk about weird shit. Try not to give a fuck what people think. Make sure you don't look like a burn out hippie or people won't respect you.
When you find yourself again you'll realize that you're a really awesome unique person, people will recognize that and like you for it.
That's my 2c PM me anytime brotha.
Oh, and get a job if you don't already have one. Try to get one at a store where you're interacting with people. It really helps boost your confidence when dealing with people you don't know. Also compliment girls if you think they're cute even if you're not really interested. Don't be creepy about it though. Bitches love that






good post.


I don't really understand depersonalization other than a few fleeting moments of it, but I've had my fair share of depression and feeling constantly dysphoric and like I permanently ruined my brain's ability to make feel good chemicals by overduing drugs. You've only been sober for three weeks, and if you haven't tried the above advice then you really, really need to. When you find a passion for something other than drugs and something you can throw yourself into that gets you up, moving and out of the house, then I guarantee that it will help you more than anything else. It might take trial and error, and digging yourself out of a rut is not something that will just happen on it's own - for me, if I wait for my depression to pass than I know that I will waste a huge portion of my life waiting to feel better, if not my whole life..it sucks that some of us have to deal with shit like that, but it also means that you are capable of overpowering it through sheer determination. Being well adjusted and happy might not come as easily or naturally to you as it does to someone who doesn't suffer from a mood disorder, but don't ever think that it's something that is impossible or even far fetched - it's just extra baggage..some people deal with ongoing physical ailments but manage to live very active and full lives and they put obvious effort into maintaining high levels of activity, fitness, and managing whatever ailment they've got - some people need meds to maintain physical health - and it's the exact same thing with mental disorders and ailments. You're gonna have to put some effort and make some lifestyle changes to overcome it, some people do benefit from meds but they are simply tools to get you to baseline, not cures. And I'm not saying you need meds and I do agree that a lot of people are on them who don't need them, but they have a valid purpose for people who need help getting them to the point where they can physically start to help themselves through conscious effort, which is the point where you actually start to find happiness.


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Re: Is depersonalization forever [Re: pirate-blues]
    #20171422 - 06/23/14 12:27 AM (9 years, 7 months ago)

Weed, in my experience, is by far the worst drug for people with mental illness.

OP with DP I have a recommendation for you. A quick fix if you will.

I find a wonderful herb called kratom could really benefit you. It has an energetic and mellow side, but overall has a stimulant effect like caffeine. It really brings me in tune with my body and makes me full of life. PM me if you have any questions and need a good vendor because I don't like noobies messing around with shit they bought at the smoke shop.


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Re: Is depersonalization forever [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #20171426 - 06/23/14 12:29 AM (9 years, 7 months ago)

Yes, the shit affects you forever to some extent. NO, there isn't a way to predict how. You may normalize more or less, or you could be completely distant. Shit varies.


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Re: Is depersonalization forever [Re: DangerZone]
    #20171659 - 06/23/14 01:52 AM (9 years, 7 months ago)

No it is not, I was once depersonalized and now I am not. I was depersonalized after smoking weed for the first time.


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Re: Is depersonalization forever [Re: SteelPanther]
    #20171675 - 06/23/14 01:59 AM (9 years, 7 months ago)

How does it feel to be DP'd for long periods? Does it hurt?


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Re: Is depersonalization forever [Re: theRAPeutic]
    #20171970 - 06/23/14 05:06 AM (9 years, 7 months ago)

I unknowingly did 25i 8 times within a month and a half last summer. I developed HPPD and depersonalization aftwerwards. Depersonalization persisted for ~3 months. It stopped when I started forcing myself into social situations and making friends with a lot of people. The HPPD persists still. It has been a year and a month or so since my last 25i experience (will never do again). I am a daily weed smoker. I have noticed my HPPD has diminished a bit as time passes. Are you guys saying if I quit weed for a while, my HPPD will fade faster?


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Re: Is depersonalization forever [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #20172178 - 06/23/14 07:20 AM (9 years, 7 months ago)

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How does it feel to be DP'd for long periods? Does it hurt?




Here's a quick description of what I felt: I have seen others say that it is like living in the 3rd person, or as if you are controlling a machine called "yourownbody" which I very much agree with.
My symptoms briefly were an instant decrease in vision, slower reaction time, feeling as if life was a dream (literally), overall just mentally inept in comparison. My vision issues (and or lack of my brains ability to process the information my eyes were sending it [this is how I like to describe it]) were making driving my car an almost scary experience. Another way I would put it is that sensory input seems to be overwhelming to your brain, you can't keep up with all the data coming in. And emphasis on the dream state, imagine yourself in a dream; that's exactly how real life feels.

Another major and immediate change which was most apparent when I was in front of the mirror looking at my self was the dissolution of myself. It felt as if I wasn't the person in the reflection, as if I was completely detached of my own face, as if I was a different and separate person. Again, the 3rd person effect.

One more brief experience I would like to share is a simple yet powerful memory from when my dp was at its prime. I was walking my dog with my girlfriend, it was early spring, somewhat cold. My shoelace became undone, so I stopped in the middle of the country road we were walking down to tie my laces. My girlfriend kept walking with my dog and were probably about 100 feet ahead of me by the time I stood back up. Now this is the profound part of my anecdote, this is the part which I will call possibly the most vivid memory I have. I returned to my feet and just stared at them as the walked further ahead. Two of the people(dog) who I loved most in the world and it was as if I was watching them walk away from me for the last time. I began to cry as a wave of emotions washed over me. With the way my vision was, especially responding to the outdoor lighting (overcast but still bright), I was processing all of this in what I can only describe as frame by frame, widely spaced with black frames as filler between visual data.


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I unknowingly did 25i 8 times within a month and a half last summer. I developed HPPD and depersonalization aftwerwards. Depersonalization persisted for ~3 months. It stopped when I started forcing myself into social situations and making friends with a lot of people. The HPPD persists still. It has been a year and a month or so since my last 25i experience (will never do again). I am a daily weed smoker. I have noticed my HPPD has diminished a bit as time passes. Are you guys saying if I quit weed for a while, my HPPD will fade faster?




HPPD doesn't sounds fun, I have a little distortion but I only really notice it when I am looking at a full landscape; across a lake, orwatching a sunset, or something along those lines.


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I find a wonderful herb called kratom could really benefit you. It has an energetic and mellow side, but overall has a stimulant effect like caffeine. It really brings me in tune with my body and makes me full of life. PM me if you have any questions and need a good vendor because I don't like noobies messing around with shit they bought at the smoke shop.




I'm going to look into this herb. I've taken some gingko, gotu kola, gingseng in the past. The effects were felt for sure.


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Re: Is depersonalization forever [Re: foodofthegods44]
    #20172375 - 06/23/14 09:12 AM (9 years, 7 months ago)

Modafinil or adrafinil might really help just based on the symptoms of depersonalization.

I smoke weed daily and dont really know what depersonalization is.


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Re: Is depersonalization forever [Re: Moonshoe]
    #20182284 - 06/24/14 11:32 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

Hey guys. IM still severly depersonalized.


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Re: Is depersonalization forever [Re: xbloodwhipx]
    #20182296 - 06/24/14 11:36 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

I got some freaky ass sleep paralysis last night. Bitch was whispering in my ear "ive choked people in their sleep before, i have no problem with it"

I was like "god will destroy you, help me god" lol

The demon went away and came back like 5 minutes later. She said something like "i got two more people while i was gone, god cant help you" or some shit like that.

Yes I actually had a conversation with a demon :eek:

I Hate how i can feel its breath on my face and hands on my neck. Shits so freaky


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Re: Is depersonalization forever [Re: xbloodwhipx]
    #20182374 - 06/24/14 11:52 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

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xbloodwhipx said:
I got some freaky ass sleep paralysis last night. Bitch was whispering in my ear "ive choked people in their sleep before, i have no problem with it"

I was like "god will destroy you, help me god" lol

The demon went away and came back like 5 minutes later. She said something like "i got two more people while i was gone, god cant help you" or some shit like that.

Yes I actually had a conversation with a demon :eek:

I Hate how i can feel its breath on my face and hands on my neck. Shits so freaky




it's not real. NO WORRIES.


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Re: Is depersonalization forever [Re: foodofthegods44]
    #20182388 - 06/24/14 11:54 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

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xbloodwhipx said:
I got some freaky ass sleep paralysis last night. Bitch was whispering in my ear "ive choked people in their sleep before, i have no problem with it"

I was like "god will destroy you, help me god" lol

The demon went away and came back like 5 minutes later. She said something like "i got two more people while i was gone, god cant help you" or some shit like that.

Yes I actually had a conversation with a demon :eek:

I Hate how i can feel its breath on my face and hands on my neck. Shits so freaky




it's not real. NO WORRIES.




Id like to believe its not real. But it feels so fucking real. Ive been getting sleep paralysis for around four years now, occasionally. Its been awhile (8+ months) since i had it before yesterday.


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Re: Is depersonalization forever [Re: xbloodwhipx]
    #20182467 - 06/25/14 12:07 AM (9 years, 7 months ago)

I've only ever had sleep paralysis once and there was a tall dark entity standing at the end of my bed. But it turned out to be my coat rack.

If I was you, I'd embrace it. You know it's not real... But it's still one crazy hell of an experience by the sounds of it.


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Re: Is depersonalization forever [Re: xbloodwhipx]
    #20182553 - 06/25/14 12:29 AM (9 years, 7 months ago)

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Hey guys. IM still severly depersonalized.




Hey man, I became depersonalized last year out of the blue after my weed tolerance dropped and I took a normal rip off the ol bong.  I ended up having a panic attack and still get depersonalized after smoking or eating pot, which I still do.  I took a break and started exercising more and that cleared it up pretty well.  I think meditation can make it a hell of a lot better.  If it doesn't get rid of the depersonalization for you, it will make it much easier to deal with.  Just realize its only anxiety, 100%.  I have pure o also, not as bad as your case, but, again meditation can help.  Since weed fucks me up a lot, I usually only get high now as a training exercise for meditation.  I will smoke or eat pot and when I start to feel unreal I will just observe my thoughts and feelings w/o attaching myself to the thoughts.  And once I come down, I feel amazing!

I also get sleep paralysis sometimes, but I kinda like it.  I usually just hear like a crowd of ppl talking or hella beautiful music, but last time I saw a shadow person slowly creeping towards me, but it was just my pillow.  Again, meditation can help you relax during this as well.  The more you think about depersonalization, the worse it will become.  Don't try to stop thinking about it.  Just DO shit like hiking, sports, play an instrument, jog, talk about shit with ppl, clean your place up, etc... Just do stuff that will take your mind off of depersonalization.  The more you do shit that takes your mind off it, the less you think about it, the less it affects you, the better you feel, fuck, to, the, yeah! :goodluck:


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Re: Is depersonalization forever [Re: xbloodwhipx]
    #20182833 - 06/25/14 02:55 AM (9 years, 7 months ago)

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Hey guys. IM still severly depersonalized.



Best thing to do is cope with it, embrace it, and let it pass. A healthy lifestyle helps keep sane too.



:hug:

i haven't had an episode in months. knock on wood.


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Re: Is depersonalization forever [Re: foodofthegods44]
    #20215383 - 07/02/14 02:57 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

do you need an I?

don't fight it, let go

do you need to define yourself all the time?
just let go

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xbloodwhipx said:
I got some freaky ass sleep paralysis last night. Bitch was whispering in my ear "ive choked people in their sleep before, i have no problem with it"

I was like "god will destroy you, help me god" lol

The demon went away and came back like 5 minutes later. She said something like "i got two more people while i was gone, god cant help you" or some shit like that.

Yes I actually had a conversation with a demon :eek:

I Hate how i can feel its breath on my face and hands on my neck. Shits so freaky




it's not real. NO WORRIES.




I had a SP 20 years ago I remember like 2mins ago, it can feel very real.
But they can only hurt you if you fear, if you don't fear they go away.

Don't try to be stronger than them, just ignore them
let your emotions be like they are, don't fear the fear

if they attack you let them attack you, dont run away, dont run towards


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Re: Is depersonalization forever [Re: lessismore]
    #20215390 - 07/02/14 03:00 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

quitting the weed is the best tip here IMO, it gave me lots of anxiety where I previously had none

after egodeath on the psychedelics my weed trips changed... more unpleasant... had to quit
unless you like anxiety/can control anxiety easily I would quit it

weed makes depersonalization much worse, you need to recover without drugs


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