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"Do you wish that we show up?"
    #2010949 - 10/15/03 08:06 AM (20 years, 8 months ago)



Whoever transmitted this translated message to you is irrelevant, and
should remain anonymous in your mind. It is what you will do with this message
which matters !

Each one of you wishes to exercise her/his free will and experience

These are attributes that were shown to us and to which we now have
access. Your free will depends upon the knowledge you have of your own power.
Your happiness depends upon the love that you give and receive.

Like all conscious races at this stage of progress, you may feel isolated
on your planet. This impression makes you sure of your destiny. Yet, you are at
the brink of big upheavals that only a minority is aware of.

It is not our responsibility to modify your future without you choosing
it. Consider this message as a worldwide referendum! And your answer as a

Who are we ?

Neither your scientists nor your religious representatives speak
unanimously about the unexplained celestial events that mankind has witnessed
for thousands of years. To know the truth, one must face it without the filter
of one?s beliefs, however respectable they may be.

A growing number of anonymous researchers of yours are exploring new
knowledge paths and are getting very close to reality. Today, your civilisation
is flooded with an ocean of information of which only a tiny part, the less
upsetting one, is notably diffused.

What in your history seemed ridiculous or improbable has often become
possible, then realised, in particular in the last fifty years. Be aware that
the future will be even more surprising. You will discover the worst as well as
the best.

Like billions others in this galaxy, we are conscious creatures that some
name "extra-terrestrials", even though reality is subtler.

There is no fundamental difference between you and us, save for the
experience of certain stages of evolution. Like in any other organised
structure, hierarchy exists in our internal relationships. Ours is based upon
the wisdom of several races. It is with the approval of this hierarchy that we
turn to you.

Like most of you, we are in the quest of the Supreme Being. Therefore we
are not gods or lesser gods but virtually your equals in the Cosmic

Physically, we are somewhat different from you but for most of us

Our existence is a reality but the majority of you does not perceive it
yet. We are not mere observations, we are consciences just like you. You fail
to apprehend us because we remain invisible to your senses and measure
instruments most of the time.

We wish to fill this void at this moment in your history. We made this
collective decision but this is not enough. We need yours. Through this
message, you become the decision-makers ! You personally.

We have no human representative on Earth who could guide your decision.

Why aren?t we visible ?

At certain stages of evolution, cosmic "humanities" discover new forms of
science beyond the apparent control of matter. Structured dematerialisation and
materialisation are part of them. This is what your humanity has reached in a
few laboratories, in close collaboration with other "extra-terrestrial"
creatures at the cost of hazardous compromises that remain purposedly hidden
from you by some of your representatives.

Apart from the aerial or spatial objects or phenomena known about by your
scientific community, that you call ?UFOs, there are essentially
multidimensional manufactured spaceships that apply these capacities.Many human
beings have been in visual, auditory, tactile or psychic contact with such
ships, some of which are under occult powers that "govern" you. The scarcity of
your observations is due to the outstanding advantages provided by the
dematerialised state of these ships.

By not witnessing them by yourself, you cannot believe in their existence.
We fully understand this.

The majority of these observations are made on an individual basis so as
to touch the soul and not to modify any organised system. This is deliberate
from the races that surround you but for very different reasons and results.

For negative multidimensional beings that play a part in the exercise of
power in the shadow of human oligarchy, discretion is motivated by their will
to keep their existence and seizure unknown.

For us, discretion is motivated by the respect of the human free will that
people can exercise to manage their own affairs so that they can reach
technical and spiritual maturity on their own. Humankind?s entrance into the
family of galactic civilisations is greatly expected.

We can appear in broad daylight and help you attain this union. We haven?t
done it so far, as too few of you have genuinely desired it, because of
ignorance, indifference or fear, and because the emergency of the situation did
not justify it. Many of those who study our appearances count the lights in the
night without lighting the way. Often they think in terms of objects when it is
all about conscious beings.

Who are you ?

You are the offspring of many traditions that throughout time have been
mutually enriched by each others? contributions. The same applies to the races
at the surface of the Earth. Your goal is to unite in the respect of these
roots to accomplish a common project. The appearance of your cultures seems to
keep you separated because you substitute it to your deeper being. Shape is now
more important than the essence of your subtle nature. For the powers in place,
this prevalence of the shape constitutes the ramparts against any form of

You are being called on to overcome shape while still respecting it for
its richness and beauty. Understanding the conscience of shape makes us love
men in their diversity. Peace does not mean not making war, it consists in
becoming what you are in reality: a same Fraternity.

To understand this, the number of solutions within your reach are
decreasing. One of them consists in contact with another race that would
reflect the image of what you are in reality.

What is your situation ?

Except for rare occasions, our interventions always had very little
incidence on your capacity to make collective and individual decisions about
your own future. This is motivated by our knowledge of your deep psychological

We reached the conclusion that freedom is built every day as a being
becomes aware of himself and of his environment, getting progressively rid of
constraints and inertias, whatever they may be. Despite the numerous, brave and
willing human consciences, those inertias are artificially maintained for the
profit of a growing centralising power.

Until recently, mankind lived a satisfying control of its decisions. But
it is losing more and more the control of its own fate because of the growing
use of advanced technologies, which lethal consequences on the earthly and
human ecosystems become irreversible. You are slowly but surely losing your
extraordinary capacity to make life desirable. Your resilience will
artificially decrease, independently of your own will. Such technologies exist
that affect your body as well as your mind. Such plans are on their way.

This can change as long as you keep this creative power in you, even if it
cohabits with the dark intentions of your potential lords. This is the reason
why we remain invisible. This individual power is doomed to vanish should a
collective reaction of great magnitude not happen. The period to come is that
of rupture, whichever it may be.

But should you wait for the last moment to find solutions ? Should you
anticipate or undergo pain ?

Your history has never ceased to be marked by encounters between peoples
who had to discover one another in conditions that were often conflictual.
Conquests almost always happened to the detriment of others. Earth has now
become a village where everyone knows everyone else but still conflicts persist
and threats of all kinds get worse in duration and intensity.

Although a Human being as an individual, yet having many potential
capacities, cannot exercise them with dignity. This is the case for the biggest
majority of you for reasons that are essentially geopolitical.

There are several billion of you. The education of your children and your
living conditions, as well as the conditions of numerous animals and much plant
life are nevertheless under the thumb of a small number of your political,
financial, military and religious representatives.

Your thoughts and beliefs are modelled after partisan interests to turn
you into slaves while at the same time giving you the feeling that you are in
total control of your destiny, which in essence is the reality.

But there is a long way between a wish and a fact when the true rules of
the game at hand are unknown. This time, you are not the conqueror. Biasing
information is a millenary strategy for human beings. Inducting thoughts,
emotions or organisms that do not belong to you via ad hoc technologies is an
even older a strategy.

Wonderful opportunities of progress stand close to big subdual and
destruction threats. These dangers and opportunities exist now. However, you
can only perceive what is being shown to you. The end of natural resources is
programmed whereas no long-term collective project has been launched.

Ecosystem exhaustion mechanisms have exceeded irreversible limits. The
scarcity of resources and their unfair distribution - resources which entry
price will rise day after day - will bring about fratricide fights at a large
scale, but also at the very heart of your cities and countrysides.

Hatred grows bigger but so does love. That is what keeps you confident in
your ability to find solutions. But the critical mass is insufficient and a
sabotage work is cleverly being carried out.

Human behaviours, formed from past habits and trainings, have such an
inertia that this perspective leads you to a dead end. You entrust these
problems to representatives, whose conscience of common well-being slowly fades
away in front of corporatist interests, with those difficulties. They are
always debating on the form but rarely on the content.

Just at the moment of action, delays will accumulate to the point when you
have to submit rather than choose. This is the reason why, more than ever in
your history, your decisions of today will directly and significantly impact
your survival of tomorrow.

What event could radically modify this inertia that is typical of any
civilisation ? Where will a collective and unifying awareness come from, that
will stop this blind rushing ahead ?

Tribes, populations and human nations have always encountered and
interacted with one another. Faced with the threats weighing upon the human
family, it is perhaps time that a greater interaction occurred.

A great roller wave is on the verge of emerging. It mixes very positive
but also very negative aspects.

Who are the "third party" ?

There are two ways to establish a cosmic contact with another
civilisation: via its standing representatives or directly with individuals
without distinction. The first way entails fights of interests, the second way
brings awareness.

The first way was chosen by a group of races motivated by keeping mankind
in slavery, thereby controlling Earth resources, the gene pool and human
emotional energy.

The second way was chosen by a group of races allied with the cause of the
Spirit of service. We have, at our end, subscribed to this disinterested cause
and introduced ourselves a few years ago to representatives of the human power
who refused our outstretched hand on the pretext of incompatible interests with
their strategic vision.

That is why today individuals are to make this choice by themselves
without any representative interfering. What we proposed in the past to those
whom we believed were in a capacity to contribute to your happiness, we propose
it now to ... you!

Most of you ignore that non-human creatures took part in the exercise of
those centralising powers without them being neither suspected nor accessible
to your senses. This is so true that they have almost very subtly taken
control. They do not necessarily stand on your material plan, and that is
precisely what could make them extremely efficient and frightening in the near
future. However, be aware that a large number of your representatives are
fighting this danger ! Be aware that not all abductions are made against you.
It is difficult to recognize the truth !

How could you under such conditions exercise your free will when it is so
much manipulated ? What are you really free of ?

Peace and reunification of your peoples would be a first step toward the
harmony with civilisations other than yours.

That is precisely what those who manipulate you behind the scenes want to
avoid at all cost because, by dividing, they reign! They also reign over those
who govern you. Their strength comes from their capacity to distillate mistrust
and fear into you. This considerably harms your very cosmic nature.

This message would be of no interest if these manipulators? tutorate did
not reach its peak and if their misleading and murderous plans did not
materialise in a few years from now. Their deadlines are close and mankind will
undergo unprecedented torments for the next ten cycles.

To defend yourselves against this aggression that bears no face, you need
at least to have enough information that leads to the solution.

As is also the case with humans, resistance exists amongst those dominant
races. Here again, appearance will not be enough to tell the dominator from the
ally. At your current state of psychism, it is extremely difficult for you to
distinguish between them. In addition to your intuition, training will be
necessary when the time has come.

Being aware of the priceless value of free will, we are inviting you to an

What can we offer ?

We can offer you a more holistic vision of the universe and of life,
constructive interactions, the experience of fair and fraternal relationships,
liberating technical knowledge, eradiction of suffering, controlled exercise of
individual powers, the access to new forms of energy and, finally, a better
comprehension of consciousness.

We cannot help you overcome your individual and collective fears, or bring
you laws that you would not have chosen, work on your own selves, individual
and collective effort to build the world you desire, the spirit of quest to new

What would we receive ?

Should you decide that such a contact takes place, we would rejoice over
the safeguarding of fraternal equilibrium in this region of the universe,
fruitful diplomatic exchanges, and the intense Joy of knowing that you are
united to accomplish what you are capable of. The feeling of Joy is strongly
sought in the universe for its energy is divine.

What is the question we ask you ?


How to can you answer this question ?

The truth of soul can be read by telepathy. You only need to clearly ask
yourself this question and give your answer as clearly, on your own or in a
group, as you wish. Being in the heart of a city or in the middle of a desert
does not impact the efficiency of your answer, YES or NO, IMMEDIATELY AFTER
ASKING THE QUESTION! Just do it as if you were speaking to yourself but
thinking about the message.

This is a universal question and these mere few words, put in their
context, have a powerful meaning. You should not let hesitation in the way.
This is why you should calmly think about it, in all conscience. In order to
perfectly associate your answer with the question, it is recommended that you
answer right after another reading of this message.

Do not rush to answer. Breathe and let all the power of your own free will
penetrate you. Be proud of what you are ! The problems that you may have weaken
you. Forget about them for a few minutes to be yourselves. Feel the force that
springs up in you. You are in control of yourselves !

A single thought, a single answer can drastically change your near future,
in one way as in another.

Your individual decision of asking in your inner self that we show up on
your material plan and in broad daylight is precious and essential to us.

Even though you can choose the way that best suits you, rituals are
essentially useless. A sincere request made with your heart and your own will
will always be perceived by those of us whom it is sent to.

In your own private polling booth of your secret will, you will determine
the future.

What is the lever effect ?

This decision should be made by the greatest number among you, even though
it might seem like a minority. It is recommended to spread this message, in all
envisageable fashions, in as many languages as possible, to those around you,
whether or not they seem receptive to this new vision of the future.

Do it using in a humorous tone or derision if that can help you. You can
even openly and publicly make fun of it if it makes you feel more comfortable
but do not be indifferent for at least you will have exercised your free will.

Forget about the false prophets and the beliefs that have been transmitted
to you about us. This request is one of the most intimate that can be asked to
you. Making a decision by yourself, as an individual, is your right as well as
your responsibility !

Passivity only leads to the absence of freedom. Similarly, indecision is
never efficient. If you really want to cling to your beliefs, which is
something that we understand, then say NO. If you do not know what to choose,
do not say YES because of mere curiosity. This is not a show, this is real
daily life, WE ARE ALIVE ! And living !

Your history has plenty of episodes when determined men and women were
able to influence the thread of events in spite of their small number.

Just like a small number is enough to take temporal power on Earth and
influence the future of the majority, a small number of you can radically
change your fate as an answer to the impotence in face of so much inertia and
hurdles ! You can ease the mankind?s birth to Brotherhood.

One of your thinkers once said: "Give me a hand-hold and I?ll raise the

Spreading this message will then be the hand-hold to strengthen, we will
be the light-years long lever, you will be the craftsmen to ... raise the Earth
as a consequence of our appearance.

What would be the consequences of a positive decision ?

For us, the immediate consequence of a collective favourable decision
would be the materialisation of many ships, in your sky and on Earth.

For you, the direct effect would be the rapid abandoning of many
certitudes and beliefs.

A simple conclusive visual contact would have huge repercussions on your
future. Much knowledge would be modified forever. The organisation of your
societies would be deeply upheaved for ever, in all fields of activity. Power
would become individual because you would see for yourself that we are living.
Concretely, you would change the scale of your values !

The most important thing for us is that humankind would form a single
family in front of this "unknown" we would represent !

Danger would slowly melt away from your homes because you would indirectly
force the undesirable ones, those we name the "third party", to show up and
vanish. You would all bear the same name and share the same roots: Mankind !

Later on, peaceful and respectful exchanges would be thus possible if such
is your wish. For now, he who is hungry cannot smile, he who is fearful cannot
welcome us. We are sad to see men, women and children suffering to such a
degree in their flesh and in their hearts when they bear such an inner light.

This light can be your future. Our relationships could be progressive.

Several stages of several years or decades would occur: demonstrative
appearance of our ships, physical appearance beside human beings, collaboration
in your technical and spiritual evolution, discovery of parts of the galaxy.

Every time, new choices would be offered to you. You would then decide by
yourself to cross new stages if you think it necessary to your external and
inner well-being. No interference would be decided upon unilaterally. We would
leave as soon as you would collectively wish that we do.

Depending upon the speed to spread the message across the world, several
weeks, or even several months will be necessary before our "great appearance",
if such is the decision made by the majority of those who will have used their
capacity to choose, and if this message receives the necessary support.

The main difference between your daily prayers to entities of a strictly
spiritual nature and your current decision is extremely simple : we are
technically equipped to materialise!

Why such a historical dilemma ?

We know that "foreigners" are considered as enemies as long as they embody
the "unknown". In a first stage, the emotion that our appearance will generate
will strengthen your relationships on a worldwide scale.

How could you know whether our arrival is the consequence of your
collective choice ? For the simple reason that we would have otherwise been
already there for a long time at your level of existence ! If we are not there
yet, it is because you have not made such a decision explicitely.

Some among you might think that we would make you believe in a deliberate
choice of yours so as to legitimate our arrival, though this would not be true.
What interest would we have to openly offer you what you haven?t got any access
to yet, for the benefit of the greatest number of you ?

How could you be certain that this is not yet another subtle manoeuvre of
the "third party" to better enslave you ? Because one always more efficiently
fights something that is identified than the contrary. Isn?t the terrorism that
corrodes you a blatant example ?

Whatever, you are the sole judge in your own heart and soul ! Whatever
your choice, it would be respectable and respected ! In the absence of human
representatives who could potentially seduce into error you ignore everything
about us as well as from about those who manipulate you without your consent.

In your situation, the precautionary principle that consists in not trying
to discover us does no longer prevail. You are already in the Pandora?s box
that the "third party" has created around you. Whatever
your decision may be you will have to get out of it.

In the face of such a dilemma, one ignorance against another, you need to
ask your intuition. Do you want to see us with your own eyes, or simply believe
what your thinkers say ? That is the real question!

After thousands of years, one day, this choice was going to be inevitable:
choosing between two unknowns.

Why spread such a message among yourselves ?

Translate and spread this message widely. This action will affect your
future in an irreversible and historical way at the scale of milleniums,
otherwise, it will postpone a new opportunity to choose to several years later,
at least one generation, if it can survive.

Not choosing, stands for undergoing other people?s choice. Not informing
others stands for running the risk of obtaining a result that is contrary to
one?s expectations. Remaining indifferent means giving up one?s free will.

It is all about your future. It is all about your evolution.

It is possible that this invitation does not receive your collective
assent and that, because of a lack of information, it will be disregarded.
Nevertheless no individual desire goes unheeded in the universe.

Imagine our arrival tomorrow. Thousands of ships. A unique cultural shock
in today?s mankind?s history. It will then be too late to regret about not
making a choice and spreading the message because this discovery will be
irreversible. We do insist that you do not rush into it, but do think about it
! And decide !

The big medias will not be necessarely interested in spreading this
message. It is therefore your task, as an anonymous yet an extraordinary
thinking and loving being, to transmit it.

You are still the architects of your own fate...


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Re: "Do you wish that we show up?" [Re: seethe303]
    #2011809 - 10/15/03 03:48 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)


Are you certain that you are not already here?

The trip has been long and you must still be disoriented. Take some more time to rest and regenerate further; you will need all of your strength when the moment comes.

It is evident that your transmission arrived after you have.


Dei Gratia de integro,

Veni Vidi Vici:

In Nomine Domini..

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Re: "Do you wish that we show up?" [Re: seethe303]
    #2011835 - 10/15/03 03:55 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

so these beings have no physical forms, but they can type?

serouisly though, my answer was "yes, but not in my goddamn room, that shit would freak me the fuck out"

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Re: "Do you wish that we show up?" [Re: seethe303]
    #2012725 - 10/15/03 08:08 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

I said YES. I've always said YES.

But they've never shown themselves to me.

They must not want be to believe.

Once, men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free.
But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them.

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Re: "Do you wish that we show up?" [Re: trendal]
    #2014081 - 10/16/03 09:12 AM (20 years, 8 months ago)

They're here, and aware. it is only a matter of time.

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Re: "Do you wish that we show up?" [Re: seethe303]
    #2014119 - 10/16/03 09:36 AM (20 years, 8 months ago)

I've been looking for you guys since I was 5 years old. Hurry up already!

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clever title

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Re: "Do you wish that we show up?" [Re: adrug]
    #2014173 - 10/16/03 10:03 AM (20 years, 8 months ago)

My lazy post.. can someone tell me the gist of the whole post so I can decide whether to read it or not.. thx :smirk:

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Re: "Do you wish that we show up?" [Re: seethe303]
    #2014174 - 10/16/03 10:04 AM (20 years, 8 months ago)

Oh I know, but I'm so impatient  :smirk:

Once, men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free.
But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them.

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Re: "Do you wish that we show up?" [Re: trendal]
    #2014790 - 10/16/03 01:42 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

Sure, just stop the anal probing already.

It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.

- Aristotle

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Re: "Do you wish that we show up?" [Re: domite]
    #2015160 - 10/16/03 03:24 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)


domite said:
serouisly though, my answer was "yes, but not in my goddamn room, that shit would freak me the fuck out"

Damn fucking straight! Myself, I just heard this very weird noise coming from out my window, and I thought it might have been the music, so I took it back some in time, and I didn't hear it again.... I can't seem to explain that fucking sound in any way... and I am suspossed to go downstairs and like let the cat out and shit before I go to bed.. fuck that! I don't even see how I am going to fucking sleep without the light on...

If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you

:heartpump: :bunnyhug: :yinyang:

:yinyang: :levitate: :earth: :levitate: :yinyang:

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Re: "Do you wish that we show up?" [Re: seethe303]
    #2016046 - 10/16/03 07:29 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

nice post.

my signature is too long

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