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B+ ride along (MS using new monotub tek)
    #20159696 - 06/20/14 02:32 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Turned these



into this



and this..



Casing tonight :smile:

These 66 QT tubs are using my filters I came up with as a new alternative to stuffing the bottom holes with polyfil.  They are taped on the outside while they finish colonization.  Here's a link to the tek Dilated's Ironed Polyfil Filters for Monotubs

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Re: B+ ride along (using new monotub tek) [Re: Dilated]
    #20159713 - 06/20/14 02:37 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

You turned 2 jars into 5?

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Re: B+ ride along (using new monotub tek) [Re: Invader Zim]
    #20159719 - 06/20/14 02:39 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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You turned 2 jars into 5?




Actually I turned 2 jars into 10 jars but 5 of them were spawned into the tub that you see colonizing.  And the other 5 are finishing up colonization.. 2 of those jars are just about finished.

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Re: B+ ride along (using new monotub tek) [Re: Dilated]
    #20159750 - 06/20/14 02:45 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

anyone else having trouble zooming the photos?

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Re: B+ ride along (using new monotub tek) [Re: Dilated]
    #20159764 - 06/20/14 02:49 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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anyone else having trouble zooming the photos?



yeah...shirts to bright i can't bring myself to do it...


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Re: B+ ride along (using new monotub tek) [Re: Dilated]
    #20159770 - 06/20/14 02:50 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Hmm, IMO that is a very high spawn rate for both G2G and the tub. I was reading a few days ago that it's best to let a high-spawn ratio tubs consolidate for a few extra days, because the grain is so nutritious it takes longer to colonize AKA digest.

I used double my normal spawn ratio last batch and did not notice a positive difference, I normally use 4 colonized pints to 1 brick coir, 2qts verm +additives.

Beautiful looking tub:toast:

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Re: B+ ride along (using new monotub tek) [Re: cronicr]
    #20159779 - 06/20/14 02:51 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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anyone else having trouble zooming the photos?



yeah...shirts to bright i can't bring myself to do it...




Eat some cubes and try to look at it :wink:  Are you really having problems zooming all of them though?

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Re: B+ ride along (using new monotub tek) [Re: Invader Zim]
    #20159784 - 06/20/14 02:52 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Your pictures zoom fine:shrug:

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Re: B+ ride along (using new monotub tek) [Re: Invader Zim]
    #20159799 - 06/20/14 02:55 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

it usually just does that for a few minutes after you first upload


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Re: B+ ride along (using new monotub tek) [Re: Invader Zim]
    #20159808 - 06/20/14 02:56 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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Hmm, IMO that is a very high spawn rate for both G2G and the tub. I was reading a few days ago that it's best to let a high-spawn ratio tubs consolidate for a few extra days, because the grain is so nutritious it takes longer to colonize AKA digest.

I used double my normal spawn ratio last batch and did not notice a positive difference, I normally use 4 colonized pints to 1 brick coir, 2qts verm +additives.

Beautiful looking tub:toast:




5 jars for a 66 QT tub is very normal.  And consolidation is for BRF cakes to digest the verm.  I'm pretty sure any other TC would tell you the same thing.  I've never consolidated yet with monotubs or jars and have had great success.  All the teks I've read never suggested consolidating grains or tubs. :shrug:  I'm sure cron will chime in with his expert opinion.

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Re: B+ ride along (using new monotub tek) [Re: Dilated]
    #20159816 - 06/20/14 02:58 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

lol sorry i was distracted by the shirt lol, bulk subs don't need to consolidate even at 1:1, and if you do consolidate 3 days is all that is needed which is y it isn't needed lol


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Re: B+ ride along (using new monotub tek) [Re: cronicr]
    #20159867 - 06/20/14 03:06 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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lol sorry i was distracted by the shirt lol, bulk subs don't need to consolidate even at 1:1, and if you do consolidate 3 days is all that is needed which is y it isn't needed lol




Lmao can't wear a bright shirt around here I guess :wink:

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Re: B+ ride along (using new monotub tek) [Re: cronicr]
    #20159885 - 06/20/14 03:11 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Dang I wish I could find the link, it was something RR said. It made since while reading it haha.
(Not so) quick question, why exactly do people use high spawn rates? To colonize faster, ok yes but it would have colonized more sub if done at a lower ratio so that cancels out. To beat contams? No, you can spawn without gloves.

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Re: B+ ride along (using new monotub tek) [Re: Invader Zim]
    #20159927 - 06/20/14 03:21 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

5 Jars isn't a high spawn ratio, most cultivators use 6 or more.

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Re: B+ ride along (using new monotub tek) [Re: Dilated]
    #20159980 - 06/20/14 03:33 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

dialated, ur one of my favorite new posters dude!!  you always got good stuff coming out


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Re: B+ ride along (using new monotub tek) [Re: blindingleaf]
    #20160146 - 06/20/14 04:09 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Tub is looking good there, cant wait to see that sucker fruit. Is it just CVG substrate?


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Re: B+ ride along (using new monotub tek) [Re: lateforthafuture]
    #20160190 - 06/20/14 04:15 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Looking good. I use 6 quarts for 66qt tubs so yah that spawn rate isn't that high. I let my tubs consolidate until they start to knot which generally happens within 2 or 3 days of 100% colonisation.


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Re: B+ ride along (using new monotub tek) [Re: MudaFuka]
    #20160618 - 06/20/14 05:59 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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Looking good. I use 6 quarts for 66qt tubs so yah that spawn rate isn't that high. I let my tubs consolidate until they start to knot which generally happens within 2 or 3 days of 100% colonisation.





6 qts spawn, how much sub? It doesn't mater the size of the tub lol, that has nothing to do with ratios.

5 qts is a higher ratio than 4 pints, thus making 5 qts a high spawn ration, relatively.

It's funny how nobody was able to answer my previous question, it's just hey lets do what everyone else does without even knowing why.

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Re: B+ ride along (using new monotub tek) [Re: Invader Zim]
    #20160653 - 06/20/14 06:09 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

No 4 pints is a low spawn ratio...people use that amount cause causits the perfect mix (opinion) between colonization time, amount of spawn you need to create, and yield. If you colonize the same amount of bulk sub with 4 pints you will get les mushrooms then if you spawned 6qt to it, most of the nutes come from the grains, the bulk sub adds some but mostly just holds lots and lots of water

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Re: B+ ride along (using new monotub tek) [Re: Invader Zim]
    #20160670 - 06/20/14 06:13 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

When a mono is made correctly the sub depth should be consistently around 3.5 inches so when you use more spawn you will be using less sub and the ratio go's up. I use about 11 or 12 quarts of sub to 6 quarts of spawn for about a 1:2 ratio when making tubs. When making trays I go 1:1. The reason I use a high ratio is I like the fast colonisation and lots of nuts for later flushes. It only costs me around 16 cents to make a quart of spawn so I really don't care how far I can stretch it.


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Re: B+ ride along (using new monotub tek) [Re: Mdahmer]
    #20160700 - 06/20/14 06:21 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: B+ ride along (using new monotub tek) [Re: Invader Zim]
    #20160715 - 06/20/14 06:25 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Oh and muda, if I may ask where do you buy your grain and what do you use?
I've been buying wheat at bulk barn for like a buck a pound. I know that's kinda pricey but I like the quality.

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Re: B+ ride along (using new monotub tek) [Re: Invader Zim]
    #20160750 - 06/20/14 06:33 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

I bucket pasteurise almost everything. Well I've got one tray of PE that I did at a 2:1 ratio spawn to coffee that I didn't pasteurise. I just ran the coffee threw my coffee maker three times, let cool and spawned. PH is something I really only pay attention to when using peat moss for a casing layer. I Have used many different grains but now I use whole oats from the feed section at TSC. I get 25kg for less than $20 that works out to about 30 cents a pound and one pound will make two quart jars.


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Re: B+ ride along (using new monotub tek) [Re: MudaFuka]
    #20160961 - 06/20/14 07:27 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Ok that's all very good to know, sorry I edited that post asking all the question because I realized how badly I jacked OP's thread. Figured I tarnished it enough, sorry dialated, if it makes you feel better I got a lot of questions I've been wondering about answered haha.

I'm trying really hard to think what TSC is but coming up empty. That's really interesting you use oats. Thanks for answering everything so professionally.

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Re: B+ ride along (using new monotub tek) [Re: Invader Zim]
    #20161009 - 06/20/14 07:38 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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Tub is looking good there, cant wait to see that sucker fruit. Is it just CVG substrate?




Thanks, and yes you're spot on my friend

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Looking good. I use 6 quarts for 66qt tubs so yah that spawn rate isn't that high. I let my tubs consolidate until they start to knot which generally happens within 2 or 3 days of 100% colonisation.




I have used 6 to very good avail but 5 seems to work just right for me :smile:  I may try to let things knot up a bit more soon.  But if it's not broke why fix it.. ya know?


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6 qts spawn, how much sub? It doesn't mater the size of the tub lol, that has nothing to do with ratios.

5 qts is a higher ratio than 4 pints, thus making 5 qts a high spawn ration, relatively.

It's funny how nobody was able to answer my previous question, it's just hey lets do what everyone else does without even knowing why.




Ok I thought I had answered your question sufficiently, you insinuated that I had used too high of a ratio though braj...That isn't the case (5 fully colonized QTs of spawn, 2 QTs of verm and a brick of coir)  My point was that I used less then what most people use.  And 4 pints of spawn?  What the hell are you spawning too brother man lol

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Re: B+ ride along (using new monotub tek) [Re: MudaFuka]
    #20161018 - 06/20/14 07:40 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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When a mono is made correctly the sub depth should be consistently around 3.5 inches so when you use more spawn you will be using less sub and the ratio go's up. I use about 11 or 12 quarts of sub to 6 quarts of spawn for about a 1:2 ratio when making tubs. When making trays I go 1:1. The reason I use a high ratio is I like the fast colonisation and lots of nuts for later flushes. It only costs me around 16 cents to make a quart of spawn so I really don't care how far I can stretch it.




I used 6 QT's of spawn and got 8 flushes so I can see why you would use that many.  But my grows have been MS so far so my results are really a crap shoot so far.  But seriously I been very happy  :rockon: SUPPORT YOUR SPONSORS!

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Re: B+ ride along (using new monotub tek) [Re: Invader Zim]
    #20161029 - 06/20/14 07:44 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

TSC = tractor supply company. But any place that sells feed for live stock is a good bet for finding cheep grains.

@ Dilated  From what I've seen your shit looks great you should be happy.

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Re: B+ ride along (using new monotub tek) [Re: MudaFuka]
    #20161043 - 06/20/14 07:48 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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TSC = tractor supply company. But any place that sells feed for live stock is a good bet for finding cheep grains.

@ Dilated  From what I've seen your shit looks great you should be happy.




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Re: B+ ride along (using new monotub tek) [Re: Dilated]
    #20161678 - 06/20/14 10:30 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Nice, I used Sporeworks too. Ahh tractor supply co, ok.
I spawn to coir verm gypsum, but I add worm casings and liquid seaweed.

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    #20171242 - 06/22/14 11:38 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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When a mono is made correctly the sub depth should be consistently around 3.5 inches so when you use more spawn you will be using less sub and the ratio go's up. I use about 11 or 12 quarts of sub to 6 quarts of spawn for about a 1:2 ratio when making tubs. When making trays I go 1:1. The reason I use a high ratio is I like the fast colonisation and lots of nuts for later flushes. It only costs me around 16 cents to make a quart of spawn so I really don't care how far I can stretch it.






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Re: B+ ride along (using new monotub tek) [Re: MudaFuka]
    #20171246 - 06/22/14 11:42 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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I bucket pasteurise almost everything. Well I've got one tray of PE that I did at a 2:1 ratio spawn to coffee that I didn't pasteurise. I just ran the coffee threw my coffee maker three times, let cool and spawned. PH is something I really only pay attention to when using peat moss for a casing layer. I Have used many different grains but now I use whole oats from the feed section at TSC. I get 25kg for less than $20 that works out to about 30 cents a pound and one pound will make two quart jars.




I got some PE ready for an MS 'noc up in a couple days (WBS is soaking atm).  What ratio do you use when you do PE in your tubs?  Is it generally different then other cube varieties?

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Re: B+ ride along (using new monotub tek) [Re: Dilated]
    #20172707 - 06/23/14 10:44 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

I usually go 1:2 but I have been doing 1:1 lately.  I do Pe the same as any cube


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    #20172904 - 06/23/14 11:33 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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I usually go 1:2 but I have been doing 1:1 lately.  I do Pe the same as any cube





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Re: B+ ride along (using new monotub tek) [Re: Dilated]
    #20187438 - 06/26/14 01:04 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)



And yet another.. patched and brought to FAE..  Can't wait to see how my customized monotubs do.  I hope these new bottom hole filters work great.  "NO MORE STUFFING!  NO MORE STUFFING!" he chants evilly :awesomenod:

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Re: B+ ride along (using new monotub tek) [Re: Dilated]
    #20187460 - 06/26/14 01:12 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

:lol:


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    #20187491 - 06/26/14 01:24 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: B+ ride along (using new monotub tek) [Re: Dilated]
    #20187499 - 06/26/14 01:26 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

:lol::rockon::rockon::rockon:


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Re: B+ ride along (using new monotub tek) [Re: cronicr]
    #20192413 - 06/27/14 01:53 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

I just spawned mine too :laugh: Cheering!, first time.

Except mine are TC not B+ :P


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Re: B+ ride along (using new monotub tek) [Re: mah]
    #20193714 - 06/27/14 11:12 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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I just spawned mine too :laugh: Cheering!, first time.

Except mine are TC not B+ :P




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Re: B+ ride along (using new monotub tek) [Re: Dilated]
    #20217275 - 07/02/14 11:09 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Here's my first B+ pinset and I must say.. wow.. looking so much more dense then the other cubes I've used with monotubs so far.  I'm really excited for this one.  If anyone would like to take a wager on dry weight for the first flush, I'll gladly send a print.  Must be closest without going over :wink: (must have at least 5 ratings of 5 cubes or better on your profile or 200 posts).




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Re: B+ ride along (using new monotub tek) [Re: Dilated]
    #20217307 - 07/02/14 11:17 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

NICE!


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Re: B+ ride along (using new monotub tek) [Re: Captainpaps]
    #20217322 - 07/02/14 11:22 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Looks real good :thumbup:

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Re: B+ ride along (using new monotub tek) [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #20217376 - 07/02/14 11:39 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks guys, I'm pretty proud of these modified tubs I designed.  I hope others get on board with this.  Will make your monotub lives much easier and a bit more automated.

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