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P. Cub B+ First time - would appreciate feedback
#20158051 - 06/20/14 04:34 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hey all,
So I'm working through my first grow and everything seems to be going better than expected. I have a few specific questions, but I'm going to outline my venture first in hopes of suggestions and/or the discovery of something glaring I've overlooked.
What's been done:
Using BRF and vermiculite in canning jars with P. Cube B+ strain.
Vermiculite was appropriately soaked then coated with BRF. Each jar was filled up to an inch from the top, which was filled with dry vermiculite. The jar lids punctured in four places for inoculation (via syringe) then screwed on. Tinfoil was used to create a secondary "lid" on the tops. Jars were then pressure cooked for an hour (five jars fit in the cooker at once). After an hour the pressure cooker was moved off the stove and allowed to cool overnight. After cooling the tinfoil lid was removed and each jar was inoculated through the previously created holes before replacing the tinfoil and placing the jars in the incubation chamber.
Two rubbermaid containers are being used for the incubation chamber. The first, larger container, contains an aquarium heater and is filled enough with water so that when the second, smaller, container (where the jars go) is placed inside the water level is just above the lids of the jars. The temp in the container where the jars are is at an even 80F. There is significant, daily, condensation on the lid of the larger container but as the smaller container also has a lid it's not reaching the jars. However, there is minor condensation on the interior container lid which I'm guessing is from water evaporating out of the jars(?). I haven't read anywhere that FAE is needed during incubation but there seems to be more growth on the days after I open the container to examine the jars.
While all jars are showing growth I'm worried that I packed the vermiculite/BRF too densely in a few of the jars - I'm planning on giving them a good shaking but I fear that won't be enough.
What's to be done:
I plan on using a shotgun style FC with perlite. Because they are not being grown in an area with any natural light I plan on using a 15w CFL on a 12 hour timer. From my understanding I can leave the top of the chamber open, for the light to get in, without any ill effects.
I plan on birthing the cakes, once I see the first pin, onto tinfoil and placing them into the FC. I've seen where other growers seem to roll their cakes in vermiculite before placing them into the FC, but I haven't found and info as to why this is done so I was planning on skipping it. I also understand the process and reasoning behind dunking, but as this is my first grow I plan on foregoing it.
On to the questions:
Maybe I'm just bad with search engines, but I haven't been able to find any posts that directly answer my questions so forgive me if these have been answered elsewhere.
1) Does FAE during incubation make a difference? (My jars are in an air-tight container) 2) There's nothing I need to do to my cakes between birthing and placing them into the FC, correct? 3) If I birth onto tinfoil how does the cake draw moisture from the perlite? Does it just get from the humidity? 4) Do I just dispose of the dry vermiculite layer in the tops of my jars when it's time to birth? 5) In the FC, I've seen recommendations of only misting the perlite and of misting the cakes and perlite, which route should I take? 6) Is there anything in addition to shaking I can do to prevent the overly-packed jars from stalling? 7) Little late for this last one, but what's the purpose, other than sterilization, I assume, of pressure cooking the jars and how do I know if it's been done properly?
I'll be back later with pictures if any of my descriptions were unclear.
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Re: P. Cub B+ First time - would appreciate feedback [Re: Synec]
#20158115 - 06/20/14 05:42 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Synec said: Hey all,
So I'm working through my first grow and everything seems to be going better than expected. I have a few specific questions, but I'm going to outline my venture first in hopes of suggestions and/or the discovery of something glaring I've overlooked.
What's been done:
Using BRF and vermiculite in canning jars with P. Cube B+ strain.
Vermiculite was appropriately soaked then coated with BRF. Each jar was filled up to an inch from the top, which was filled with dry vermiculite. The jar lids punctured in four places for inoculation (via syringe) then screwed on. Tinfoil was used to create a secondary "lid" on the tops. Jars were then pressure cooked for an hour (five jars fit in the cooker at once). After an hour the pressure cooker was moved off the stove and allowed to cool overnight. After cooling the tinfoil lid was removed and each jar was inoculated through the previously created holes before replacing the tinfoil and placing the jars in the incubation chamber.
Two rubbermaid containers are being used for the incubation chamber. The first, larger container, contains an aquarium heater and is filled enough with water so that when the second, smaller, container (where the jars go) is placed inside the water level is just above the lids of the jars. The temp in the container where the jars are is at an even 80F. There is significant, daily, condensation on the lid of the larger container but as the smaller container also has a lid it's not reaching the jars. However, there is minor condensation on the interior container lid which I'm guessing is from water evaporating out of the jars(?). I haven't read anywhere that FAE is needed during incubation but there seems to be more growth on the days after I open the container to examine the jars.
While all jars are showing growth I'm worried that I packed the vermiculite/BRF too densely in a few of the jars - I'm planning on giving them a good shaking but I fear that won't be enough.
What's to be done:
I plan on using a shotgun style FC with perlite. Because they are not being grown in an area with any natural light I plan on using a 15w CFL on a 12 hour timer. From my understanding I can leave the top of the chamber open, for the light to get in, without any ill effects.
I plan on birthing the cakes, once I see the first pin, onto tinfoil and placing them into the FC. I've seen where other growers seem to roll their cakes in vermiculite before placing them into the FC, but I haven't found and info as to why this is done so I was planning on skipping it. I also understand the process and reasoning behind dunking, but as this is my first grow I plan on foregoing it.
On to the questions:
Maybe I'm just bad with search engines, but I haven't been able to find any posts that directly answer my questions so forgive me if these have been answered elsewhere.
1) Does FAE during incubation make a difference? (My jars are in an air-tight container) 2) There's nothing I need to do to my cakes between birthing and placing them into the FC, correct? 3) If I birth onto tinfoil how does the cake draw moisture from the perlite? Does it just get from the humidity? 4) Do I just dispose of the dry vermiculite layer in the tops of my jars when it's time to birth? 5) In the FC, I've seen recommendations of only misting the perlite and of misting the cakes and perlite, which route should I take? 6) Is there anything in addition to shaking I can do to prevent the overly-packed jars from stalling? 7) Little late for this last one, but what's the purpose, other than sterilization, I assume, of pressure cooking the jars and how do I know if it's been done properly?
I'll be back later with pictures if any of my descriptions were unclear.
1. There is no such thing as FAE during incubation as the jars shoul remain sealed though with a GE filter point on the lids (Gas Exchange). There is also NO need for an incubation chamber made with Rubbermaid containers and a heat supply. That is all a waste. A cupboard will do just fine.
2. There is a lot you have to do after birthing! You have to dunk in tap water overnight! Then you have to roll them in vermiculite and place in fruiting chamber!
3. The cakes draw moisture from the water added to your BRF jars in the beginning the high humidity in the air helps keep things moist for the cake. This the need for 95-100% humidity. Once fruit bodies form they also draw water from the air.
4. I would just wash it off before you dunk it!
5. Mist the cakes directly. If the perlite was properly wetted and drained then no extra moisture is necessary, just mist the cakes an the overspray helps with the perlite as well.
6. I don't know if you're supposed to shake BRF jars but if you do make sure the mycelium is strong (20-30% colonized) before doing so.
7. Simply that. To sterilize the jars an it's contents. The only way to tell if it's done properly is you don't have contams and the spores you knocked up your jars with is growing and healthy.
Good luck.
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Re: P. Cub B+ First time - would appreciate feedback [Re: PsiloBeast]
#20158148 - 06/20/14 06:04 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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no shaking brf guys. you mix that contamination layer down.
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Re: P. Cub B+ First time - would appreciate feedback [Re: Mou5e77]
#20158155 - 06/20/14 06:05 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Mou5e77 said: no shaking brf guys. you mix that contamination layer down.
I thought so but wasn't sure.
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Re: P. Cub B+ First time - would appreciate feedback [Re: Mou5e77]
#20158246 - 06/20/14 07:00 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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dont shake the jars,
my first grow i picked em up and moved em around alot, even flipped some upside down, im pretty sure this is how i last a couple of my first cakes i ever did, so just let tye jars be folr the most part
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Re: P. Cub B+ First time - would appreciate feedback [Re: Synec]
#20161284 - 06/20/14 08:53 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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When the cakes are being dunked do they need to be in the fridge or does room temp work just as well?
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Re: P. Cub B+ First time - would appreciate feedback [Re: Synec]
#20161538 - 06/20/14 09:56 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Both are acceptable. Your fridge could potentially harbor a whole family of nasty shit though, not sure if it matters in this dunking phase.
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Re: P. Cub B+ First time - would appreciate feedback [Re: Synec]
#20162881 - 06/21/14 07:11 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Synec said: When the cakes are being dunked do they need to be in the fridge or does room temp work just as well?
No. Do not put them in the fridge. Cubes are a tropical fruit and do not like the cold temperatures (that is outdated information). Cubes will do fine dunking in room temperature tap water.
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Re: P. Cub B+ First time - would appreciate feedback [Re: Synec]
#20229772 - 07/05/14 09:02 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hey all, it's been about 4 weeks since the first set of jars were inoculated and I thought I'd give an update with some pics.
I think this first set was packed a little too tightly with brf/verm causing them to progress slower than the second and third sets.
Inoculated ~4 weeks ago: Side 1:
 Side 2:

Inoculated ~3 weeks ago: Side 1:
 Side 2:

Inoculated ~2.5 weeks ago: Side 1:
 Side 2:

The density of the substrate was reduced in each subsequent set which, it seems to me, caused faster colonization(I guess I REALLY over-packed it on the first set).
Anyway, I don't see anything that stands out as a contaminant to me, but I haven't developed an eye for what to look for, yet. Do any of you with more experience see anything that stands out as a contaminant?
Additionally, as you can see there seem to be a couple patches on a few jars where the mycelium is having trouble penetrating the substrate, is there anything I can do?
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Re: P. Cub B+ First time - would appreciate feedback [Re: Synec]
#20229838 - 07/05/14 09:18 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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It's advisable to take foil and tape off of your jars to allow for gas exchange (GE). The dry verm layer acts as a barrier to contamination as long as you don't move the jars around too much.
That could be an additional factor in slow colonization.
I currently have 11 jars going and they were moving slow until i removed the tape covering the holes.
I'm sure some more well trained eyes will be along shortly to shed more light on the condition of your jars for you.
Good luck
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Re: P. Cub B+ First time - would appreciate feedback [Re: Bluephase]
#20231676 - 07/06/14 10:42 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Don't see anything that looks contamish. Give ambient light and keep them warm, 70-80. My jars had 0 growth for 3 weeks after inoculation which i attribute to low temps
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Re: P. Cub B+ First time - would appreciate feedback [Re: Squandary]
#20247851 - 07/09/14 01:45 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Foil's been removed now we wait and see. Do you guys think that because the jars are being held inside what's more or less an air tight container that could be limiting gas exchange?
I'm not expecting much of a crop since this is my first rodeo, but what would be a reasonable estimate of what to expect per cake per flush once fruiting starts?
And thanks so much for everyone's feedback so far - it's giving me at least a little sense of security that I'm not botching this entire project!
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Re: P. Cub B+ First time - would appreciate feedback [Re: Synec]
#20247900 - 07/09/14 01:56 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Assuming you have the dry verm barrier, you can just take off the foil and tape and you'll get enough gas exchange for myc growth
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Re: P. Cub B+ First time - would appreciate feedback [Re: Squandary]
#20248063 - 07/09/14 02:23 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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It's likely the airtight container is limiting colonization. These jars need a little light and they need to breathe.
Do you have a properly constructed SGFC with 4-5in of perlite in the bottom? That will be key in getting your cakes to fruit properly.
I'm guessing 30 grams (wet) or more.
Do you have any new pics? Also, if you want to see their growth in a 24hr period you can make an outline around the myc and check back the next day.
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Re: P. Cub B+ First time - would appreciate feedback [Re: Bluephase]
#20248173 - 07/09/14 02:43 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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They don't "need" light to colonize, per say. A daily bit of light has been known to improve colonization times, as well as better yields.
They need GE (gas exchange) during colonization and if proper gas exchange is not achieved, at least IMO, the jars will have slow growth to NO growth (stalled jar).
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Re: P. Cub B+ First time - would appreciate feedback [Re: PsiloBeast]
#20248190 - 07/09/14 02:46 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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If you want you can poke holes in your foil cover that was originally on the jars, then add ANOTHER foil lid without holes. It allows or gas exchange and an extra bit of protection (not that it's needed with the verm layer of course).
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Re: P. Cub B+ First time - would appreciate feedback [Re: PsiloBeast]
#20248832 - 07/09/14 04:43 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'll grab some more pics tomorrow when I get the chance.
The jars have their original lids screwed on with 4 holes in each lid (made with hammer and nail) and covered with the single foil layer, as seen in the pics. I've since removed the foil layer leaving just the lids (with holes) screwed onto the jars.
This is similar to what has been being used for the incubation chamber:


The only difference in the pics and what I've been using is that the interior box is smaller than the exterior. Both boxes have their lids on and extra weight has been added to the top to force the interior box down low enough so that the waterline in between the two boxes rises slightly above the tops of the jars.
Kinda like this...(pardon my paint skills)
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Re: P. Cub B+ First time - would appreciate feedback [Re: PsiloBeast]
#20248973 - 07/09/14 05:09 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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PsiloBeast said: They don't "need" light to colonize, per say. A daily bit of light has been known to improve colonization times, as well as better yields.Quote:
I was going to put quotes around "need" but since we know light is good for colonization and yield but I didn't feel it necessary.
But you're correct, they will colonize without it . Albeit very slowly and weakly.
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Re: P. Cub B+ First time - would appreciate feedback [Re: Bluephase]
#20249430 - 07/09/14 06:39 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Not weakly at all!! I've had many jars colonize in pure darkness to full colonization in exactly 12 days. From spore!!
The change in colonizing speeds aren't extreme (when comparing light to without light). It's better to say whyats best for your situation. If you have a dark, cupboard space, use the shit up. If you have room next to your (6500k) light or near one then by all mean do that!!
For example
My Monotub and a couple trays are colonizing there bulk substrates near my already fruiting SGFC. They are clear tubs, so they receive the standard 12/12 light schedule, daily. They are colonizing beautifully I might add...

So all in all, if they can be in light? Do it!! If not? Who gives a shit as long as they have plenty of GE
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Re: P. Cub B+ First time - would appreciate feedback [Re: PsiloBeast]
#20249458 - 07/09/14 06:44 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: P. Cub B+ First time - would appreciate feedback [Re: Shroomteck]
#20249480 - 07/09/14 06:47 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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You're not actually supposed to use an external heating source when dealing with colonizing jars!! By the way lol. The jars are from 5-10 degrees warmer than the ambient air in your room, which could spell disaster for your jars!!
You don't necisarily want them in a box either. A cupboard is fine but they do need that GE.
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Re: P. Cub B+ First time - would appreciate feedback [Re: Synec]
#20249514 - 07/09/14 06:52 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Synec said: Foil's been removed now we wait and see. Do you guys think that because the jars are being held inside what's more or less an air tight container that could be limiting gas exchange?
I'm not expecting much of a crop since this is my first rodeo, but what would be a reasonable estimate of what to expect per cake per flush once fruiting starts?
And thanks so much for everyone's feedback so far - it's giving me at least a little sense of security that I'm not botching this entire project!
No, they'll colonize just fine in a closed container, I know a TC that does this to avoid too many spores landing on the filter.
its hard to see under the foil, but you do have a dry verm layer right?
Your cakes dont look too good to me  you can see the different patterns and color shades in growth, and in the first pics jar 1 and 2 show some clear signs of bacteria, where the myc is all white but with a clear border where it has stopped.
I'd start a new batch and dont incubate this time, its more than warm enough anyway.
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Re: P. Cub B+ First time - would appreciate feedback [Re: PsiloBeast]
#20249536 - 07/09/14 06:55 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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The incubator is not needed dude. i have my jars in a couple shoe boxes that i set in my closet with the lids propped open.
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Re: P. Cub B+ First time - would appreciate feedback [Re: Myco_wizard]
#20249597 - 07/09/14 07:04 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Myco_wizard said: The incubator is not needed dude. i have my jars in a couple shoe boxes that i set in my closet with the lids propped open. 
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Re: P. Cub B+ First time - would appreciate feedback [Re: PsiloBeast]
#20249638 - 07/09/14 07:09 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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I want to start doing bulk grows
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Re: P. Cub B+ First time - would appreciate feedback [Re: Shroomteck]
#20249651 - 07/09/14 07:11 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: P. Cub B+ First time - would appreciate feedback [Re: Myco_wizard]
#20249839 - 07/09/14 07:37 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: P. Cub B+ First time - would appreciate feedback [Re: PsiloBeast]
#20250112 - 07/09/14 08:35 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Right on man.
I'm still feeling my way around the world of mushrooms and there's so much to learn. I was operating under the assumption that light was nearly as important a GE.
I had left the tape on my jars for the first week and they were crawling. Upon removing the tape they exploded with growth.
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Re: P. Cub B+ First time - would appreciate feedback [Re: spacechildo]
#20253528 - 07/10/14 02:56 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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spacechildo said: No, they'll colonize just fine in a closed container, I know a TC that does this to avoid too many spores landing on the filter.
its hard to see under the foil, but you do have a dry verm layer right?
Your cakes dont look too good to me  you can see the different patterns and color shades in growth, and in the first pics jar 1 and 2 show some clear signs of bacteria, where the myc is all white but with a clear border where it has stopped.
I'd start a new batch and dont incubate this time, its more than warm enough anyway.
Yes, the jars have a dry verm layer.
So they're all showing signs of bacteria? Is it possible that the substrate being packed too densely is causing the borders, patterns, or shades in growth?
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Re: P. Cub B+ First time - would appreciate feedback [Re: Synec]
#20253540 - 07/10/14 03:00 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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yes it can. even making the sub too wet can make jars look like that, but that moisture usually sinks with gravity to the bottom of jars shaped like that.
well, when I look at your pics again some of them are quite bad. just water content or tightly packed sub.
it might have been your syringe and it might have been the foil has gotten your dry verm moist. the way the contams are all over the place I'd guess your syringe or maybe even sterilization time. 90mins stock pot = 60 mins PC tho, so
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Re: P. Cub B+ First time - would appreciate feedback [Re: spacechildo]
#20253813 - 07/10/14 03:50 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thinking back the one thing I was curious about was how the dry verm layer stayed dry while in the PC. I sat the jars on top of extra lids while in the PC and filled the water up just above the extra lids, so I don't know how the water content could've been altered by that. The initial water content was as close as possible to what is recommended in this guide: http://www.fungifun.org/English/Pftek
I'm not completely sold that my syringe was sterile - I couldn't find an alcohol lamp so I had to improvise.
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Re: P. Cub B+ First time - would appreciate feedback [Re: Synec]
#20253820 - 07/10/14 03:51 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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you didn't flame sterilzie your syringe??
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Re: P. Cub B+ First time - would appreciate feedback [Re: spacechildo]
#20254053 - 07/10/14 04:41 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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I didn't have anything capable of heating it to the point where it became red so I went with rubbing alcohol...
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Are any of these jars worth keeping? Or should I toss them all and start over?
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Re: P. Cub B+ First time - would appreciate feedback [Re: Synec]
#20254243 - 07/10/14 05:24 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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A candle will heat your needle to red...............
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Re: P. Cub B+ First time - would appreciate feedback [Re: PsiloBeast]
#20254541 - 07/10/14 06:33 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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i flip a shot glass upside down, pour the alcohol into the bottom and light it up, it holds enough to flame my needles or whatever tool I'm using to red hot, or you could use a lighter or candle as mentioned above
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Re: P. Cub B+ First time - would appreciate feedback [Re: Johnny Dont]
#20263188 - 07/12/14 02:34 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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So are any of them worth keeping, or should they all be disposed of?
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Re: P. Cub B+ First time - would appreciate feedback [Re: Synec]
#20263819 - 07/12/14 05:44 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm still really new at this but those don't look too good to me, man.
Go pick up some half pint widemouth jars or half pint plastic jars made by glad or Ziploc. If you do go with the plastic be sure they are pp5 plastic. Those will stand up to high sustained temperature required for the tek.
Search "plastic tek"
I inoculated five plastic jars 3 days after the jars you have and they finished colonizing a couple days ahead.
Good luck!
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