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Re: First grow, few concerns, need reassurance/advice :) [Re: deeunit]
    #20107884 - 06/10/14 12:19 AM (10 years, 7 months ago)

It's pretty foolproof, and no, you won't wreck 'em.  :smile:


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Re: First grow, few concerns, need reassurance/advice :) [Re: Psilicon]
    #20138109 - 06/16/14 04:26 AM (10 years, 7 months ago)

Alright, so the cakes are back into there SGFC and pins are back, so the second flush is under way!

First flush bought in 35g cracker dry, and is currently being stored in zip lock bags, airtight, with desiccant in tea bags :smile:

However I am now keen to give mini-mono/mono tubs a go. I've got a few questions however.

1. What to use as spawn.
Should I continue to use BRF cakes, and crumble them into Damions Coir Tek?
Should I give Rye berries a go? Or WBS? (WBS looks like a fair bit of effort drying it out on a counter top etc)

2. Substrate?
I am pretty keen to go with Damions 50/50 Coir + Verm Tek. Looks simple, straight forward, and easy to do. Should I add any gypsum/coffee grounds to it as well?

3. Chamber?
Now, here is where I get a bit confused. Can I put the substrate+spawn in a tray, sit it on perlite, and put it in my current SGFC?

Is a mini-mono, and a mono, essentially the same thing, just differing sizes? (Sounded like a silly question, most likely it is)

With the tubs, I put the substrate+spawn into the tub on top of a black rubbish bag, with the appropriate holes drilled (two just above mixture, two close to top), with duct tape over, put inside of a black rubbish bag, and left to fully colonize.

Then, introducing to fruiting conditions is where I remove the duct tape, and fill the holes with polyfill, and allow the tub access to a 12/12 light source? Misting/fanning seldom (or when I notice the cake getting too dry/or moisture forming on the surface).

Does this sound about right guys?

If so, I might just give the mono tub option a go (Using 27qt or a 40qt tub).

One last question, where abouts is a substrate+spawn calculator? I am pretty keen to get everything right the first time, similar to the cakes!

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Re: First grow, few concerns, need reassurance/advice :) [Re: deeunit]
    #20138527 - 06/16/14 08:40 AM (10 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

1. What to use as spawn.
Should I continue to use BRF cakes, and crumble them into Damions Coir Tek?
Should I give Rye berries a go? Or WBS? (WBS looks like a fair bit of effort drying it out on a counter top etc)



if u have a PC, use grains, it will take a lot of cakes to do that.

substrate: yes, coir, verm, gypsum, coffee is ur call, but can be risky contam wise, so i would not include it ur first few rounds

chamber:  any of those

u have the idea of the tub it seems.  no difference except size for mono/minimono.  i use 27 qt ones and 66 qt ones.  66qt need at least 4 qts spawn for best results, 27qt only needs one really, but two helps.


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Re: First grow, few concerns, need reassurance/advice :) [Re: blindingleaf]
    #20255142 - 07/10/14 08:28 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Well guys, long time no post!

My most recent grow has consisted of a monotub!

The cakes burnt out after their second flush, it was pretty average, so I buried the cakes in my garden!

I proceeded to go with Damons5050 Coir Tek, with around 1:3 ratio (I had left over cakes I crumbled into the substrate).

It's been colonizing for 2 weeks now, and I wanna get some opinions on:

-How long is left for the colonization,
-How I should go about putting it into fruiting conditions.

I don't have polyfil, I have some make-up remover pads that are made up of the same thing roughly, and I'll either break them up and stuff the holes with that, or just tape them over the holes.

I then plan on misting/fanning the tub a few times a day (I assume this is right?)

Any feedback would be great!





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Re: First grow, few concerns, need reassurance/advice :) [Re: deeunit]
    #20255945 - 07/10/14 11:31 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Colonizing for 2 weeks?  That's a very long time brother, something sounds fishy here.. I hope you don't have a contamination.  It's hard to tell whats going on in that picture though.. It's a bit fuzzy.. as far as stuffing your holes.. w..t..f.. just get some polyfil.  If you're in the USA just go to walmart, it's cheap and well worth the money.  Taping those make up pads sounds super sketch.

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Re: First grow, few concerns, need reassurance/advice :) [Re: Dilated]
    #20256021 - 07/10/14 11:54 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Haha I'm in NZ, we don't even have something called polyfil over here.

Make up pads however are of similar texture, but i'll try suss some polyfil or at least micropore tape.

The ratio between spawn and substrate was quite low, i think it was 4 half pint jars to what you see there. I am hoping that is the main contributing factor to why its taking a while to colonize; there wasnt much spawn to begin with.

Also, it still smells mushroomy in there, and there is no cobweb mold; rhizomorphic strands can be seen up in there as well.

I'll leave it for a couple more days, I am hoping it was my original ratio thats contributing to this slow process.

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Re: First grow, few concerns, need reassurance/advice :) [Re: deeunit]
    #20256039 - 07/10/14 11:59 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Oh ok well I guess that clarifies things a bit.  Polyfil is in alot of things as well.  Maybe you have an old pillow :wink:

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