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Grow nearly ready, now I really need your advice!!
    #2013776 - 10/16/03 05:54 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Guys

Help me out here please;

My grow is going well (Mexican Cubensis) 1st Flush should be ready in a week or so. My question is regarding dosing. I plan to harvest and then dry the shrooms until cracker dry. I was then hoping to grind (easier to transport!) and either consume in fruit juice or load into Gelcaps when convenience is needed.

Both me and my partner are fairly sensitive to most chemicals but are experienced and fairly heavy users of MDMA, speed and cocaine etc etc. We dont feel ready for a full on ego-death mindblowing trip and want usually use these substances when socialising etc. Usually either a gathering at our house with friends / music & bud etc or at bars.

I want to achieve the relaxing, socialising, enactogenic and euphoric effects whilst still retaining reasonbale control. Also I dont have any idea how strong these shrooms are likely to be.

My plan was to weigh the ground and dried babys into 1gram units, and start of trying say half to three quarters of a gram, stopping when we reach the required level, this will be our standard dose. When we are a bit more experienced we may go for the full on level 4-5 trip but not yet. Is this a good idea?

I know many of you who subscribe to the dive in not wade in approach will probably flame me for this, but everybody is differant and we all use these things in our own personal ways and for our own objectives, and these are just mine!

I would appreciate your guidance.

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Re: Grow nearly ready, now I really need your advice!! [Re: moodelev8or]
    #2013801 - 10/16/03 06:14 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

I'm sure that you'll find 1-1.5 grams to be effective for the purposes listed in your post. I find it extremely difficult to communicate with people who aren't under the influence of hallucinogens when I get much past that.

If you're going to be adding cannabis into the mix the effects will be hugely potentiated. The effects are almost instantaneous though, so it will be easy to gauge how much is a comfortable level for you. I would suggest against going to the bars or anywhere other than a safe, relaxed environment with close friends and music (you will quickly notice which kinds of music combine well with the experience and which ones don't).

Good luck.


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Re: Grow nearly ready, now I really need your advice!! [Re: DiMiTriSouljah]
    #2013837 - 10/16/03 06:42 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

if its your first time id suggest a night in. Spend some time setting the scene with candles, curtains, sofas, cushions etc. Have various genres of music available because as dim says youll quickly discover what music works and what doesnt. A first trip is always made better by being around people you trust and can be open with. Have everything pre preapred so that once your blasting off theres going to be nothing that needs to be done except to lie back and enjoy. If your going to be toking you may want munchies, food with texture is good such as strongly flavoured crisps, chunky dips, nuts etc. I wouldnt advise drinking while tripping, anyone i ever know whos drank and tripped has puked, maybe thats just my friends but especially for a first trip better safe than sorry. If you enjoy the shroom experience a few times id suggest hippy flipping (mdma and shrooms) it really is an experience again especialyl round people you have an affinity with. At the end of the day though no one knows best what makes you comfortable other than oyu so go with what feels right and most of all have a great time.


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Re: Grow nearly ready, now I really need your advice!! [Re: ]
    #2014050 - 10/16/03 11:00 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

I took 1.5g and I thought it was too strong. Definitely not a mellow, laid back trip. That's what I wanted though. I don't think you can have a mellow one. Just smoke weed and maybe you can. I didn't and I had really bad anxiety and just wanted it to end. I was like "yeah, things are moving, I get it, now let's just stop". After smoking it was a whole diff story.

I'd go with 1g and some weed.


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Re: Grow nearly ready, now I really need your advice!! [Re: StrongBad]
    #2014075 - 10/16/03 11:11 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

1.5g is usually a very mild experience for me. I can feel the mental processes start to pick up and the thought patterns begin to have that omniscient quality to them. I would have to say the main effect it has on me at that dose is an extreme curiosity, it really brings me back to childhood.


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Re: Grow nearly ready, now I really need your advice!! [Re: StrongBad]
    #2014161 - 10/16/03 12:01 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Just because you can't handle them dosn't mean mellow experiences are impossible. I sure wish 1.5g would make stuff move for me though.  :crazy:


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Re: Grow nearly ready, now I really need your advice!! [Re: ChiefThunderbong]
    #2014186 - 10/16/03 12:12 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah, that'd be nice. Maybe with 1/4 of some dank.


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Re: Grow nearly ready, now I really need your advice!! [Re: DiMiTriSouljah]
    #2016068 - 10/16/03 09:37 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Usually either a gathering at our house with friends / music & bud etc or at bars


eeww.. definately not in my opinion. I agree with the previous poster, stay at home or with close friends-- if you take 1-2 grams you can go to a club to dance etc, but i doubt you'll feel like being a socialite with strangers.


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Re: Grow nearly ready, now I really need your advice!! [Re: f8L]
    #2017106 - 10/17/03 05:19 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

See, thats the thing that confuses me! I am a scientific kinda guy. I know that when I manage to get pure MDMA rock, 150mg does it for me just perfect every time, but is way to much for my girlfriend, she likes 80mg.

With Shrooms there seems to be so many variables, strength, strain type etc etc. As a previous poster mentioned 1.5g was a heavy experience for him, I thought that was considered a light 'museum level' dose. I reckon I will try and start with half a gram and see what happens. Yeh ok maybe I am a pussy, but I would prefer to find my own level at my own pace.

Also is it ok to eat the aborted shrooms? one of my cakes seems to have quite a few little dwarf shrooms, that dont seem to be doing much.

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Re: Grow nearly ready, now I really need your advice!! [Re: moodelev8or]
    #2017115 - 10/17/03 05:31 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah man, you should definitely follow your heart and go at your own pace...finding yourself in the dark is hard enough, but trying to finding others is even harder.  :grin:

You can eat aborted shrooms if they aren't rotted (once they've turned completely black, that means that they are rotting and should be removed and thrown away).  Please note that the aborts will be more potent by weight than the fully mature mushrooms.

Good luck and take care.


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Re: Grow nearly ready, now I really need your advice!! [Re: DiMiTriSouljah]
    #2017153 - 10/17/03 06:10 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

So does that mean that 1 gram of aborts would be way stronger than 1 gram of normal mushies? Should I adapt the dose accordingly?

wow little suckers are complicated! At least you know where you are with good ol' synthetic substances (thank god for testing kits!!!)

My girl is scared of seeing 'scary stuff' thats the big issue. She has red so much about worms coming from your eyesockets etc when you look into the mirror that she is a little nervous. We are both stable well balanced people though so I dont think it will be an issue. As we both come from scientific backgrouns I guess we have a tendency to over analyse things a bit!

All this information is great btw, many thanks for all your help.


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Re: Grow nearly ready, now I really need your advice!! [Re: moodelev8or]
    #2017160 - 10/17/03 06:19 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

1g of aborts would indeed by stronger than 1g of mature mushrooms.  It's going to be difficult to adapt your dose because of so many variables.  Just pick and number and stick with it, you don't need to be precise.

Your girlfriend's fears will soon be remedied.  You most likely won't get much of anything off of .5g of shrooms.  Maybe some brightened colors and mood lift, but that's about it.  No hallucinating, no experiencing-the-great-void.

You're worrying far too much.  The words you've read about mushrooms are just words, you'll soon see that, and you'll be laughing your ass off.  I suggest eating at least half an eighth your first time...but if you're set on doing less than that, by all means, go ahead.  There is no time like your first time, though.  :grin:

Good luck.


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Re: Grow nearly ready, now I really need your advice!! [Re: DiMiTriSouljah]
    #2018117 - 10/17/03 04:04 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

for me, anything less than 2 grams is just.....weird. i hate taking anything less than 2 grams.:noway: its like one foot in, and one foot out. as far as trip quality goes, id rather eat too much than too little. i dont know, this just kinda freaks me out a bit. maybe its cuz at that level im still somewhat in the real world...kinda feels like a mental tug of war for me at small doses like that. anyway, thats just me... :tongue: 


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Re: Grow nearly ready, now I really need your advice!! [Re: wrestler_az]
    #2018342 - 10/17/03 05:43 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Weird night!

Finished work early, and we went to the pub and started drinking. Me and my girl came home and started on the small amount of cocaine I had. That finished we started on the MDMA 3 pills later I started chomping on a couple of the nicer aborts in my grow. WOW my tongue went blue, I am sure this is a great sign!!!!

Not really feeling anything apart from the MDMA etc, but I do feel GREAT!!!!!

Cant wait to try the shrooms properly, the babis should be ready in a few days :-)))))))


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Re: Grow nearly ready, now I really need your advice!! [Re: moodelev8or]
    #2019720 - 10/18/03 03:40 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

for my first trip i only took 1 gram but i smoked 2 joints and i experienced a level 3.


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