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What am i missing? fruiting of monotub
    #20134698 - 06/15/14 02:50 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

*BEFORE YOU READ, I HAVE SEARCHED ENDLESSLY FOR THESE ANSWERS AND HAVE COME UP BLANK. I NEED A PERSONAL OPINION*

Whats up. I need someone who knows what the hell they are talking about to help me a bit.

the first set tubs i posted about, were a fail. i guess it had to do with the moisture content of my sub. I know this is a trial and error type of gig, but i am committed until i get this right.

i tossed both of those tubs. I have three fully colonized quart rye jars of Puerto Rico strain. They are ready to go, im PCing 5 lbs (12 quarts) of rye that was soaked in coffee and gypsum as we speak, and another 5 lbs soaking right now.

im going to use coir/verm/gypsum again using FrankHorrigans coir prep tek but this time err more on the wet side.

from what ive read, PR is a slow colonizer but that doesnt bother me at the moment, all i want is to finally harvest some shrooms. Badly.

I used a closet before, with a dual 6500K fluorescent bulb shop fixture and a small 9" fan working in the closet on low, facing the wall opposite the tubs. They dried out.

Now Im  plan on going full force in the living room, underneath a ceiling fan with the light fixture right above it.

My question to you is, what would you do?

obviously it all boils down to proper prep, RH, intense light and FAE..

how do i acheive this perfectly so i can finally get some mushrooms? im tired of failing.

I have my sterile prep and all moisture content etc down. when it comes to the fruiting part of it, im missing something. something isnt right.

whether its the moisture content, which it may be. Or too much fae or whatever. my house stays in the mid 70's at all times, i live in Florida, so its a tropical climate.

any advice or time you can give me would be appreciated. I want to dominate this hobby but failure is getting me down even tho i know its part of the process.

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Re: What am i missing? fruiting of monotub [Re: Alex Oxblood]
    #20134756 - 06/15/14 03:01 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

I think you'll do much better in the open room with a ceiling fan, that's what I do as well.

In the small closet that fan could've been moving too much air for sure and dried you out.

I'm sure you've done this cuz your usng franks stuff but make sure to read his dialing I. Your monotub like a boss thread. That's a good starting point but you need to adjust your poly to your situation, I kept both my top poly out almost the whole time fruiting and worked great.

Did your previous tubs just never pin and eventually dry out while in fruiting conditions or were they already dry during colonization?

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Re: What am i missing? fruiting of monotub [Re: Alex Oxblood]
    #20134790 - 06/15/14 03:07 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

I would suggest not putting all your jars in one tub for your first time. Maybe do mini monos for this time by spawning each qt of rye to 2 qts of your verm/coir mix. Get small plastic bins like shoe box size. This way all your spawn isn't mixed, cuz if u mix it all if one jar is bad it fucks up all of it. Also, mix your bulk exactly as the tek says. U don't have grows under your belt to tell by feel if your moisture is correct. When I was starting off I used a microwave test for moisture content. Take your bulk after its hydrated and weigh out 10 grams. Microwave it til totally dry. Now weigh again, u should have about 2.5 grams. This means 75% of your bulk is water weight which is what u want. Good luck!!


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Re: What am i missing? fruiting of monotub [Re: Mdahmer]
    #20134799 - 06/15/14 03:08 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

the moisture was fine the whole time during colonization. the whole sub had beads of moisture thru-ought.

Tub A had 5 quarst spawn to 11 quarts sub
Tub B had 9 quarts spawn to 7 quarts sub

Tub A took forever to colonize and Tub B colonized fast so i threw them into fruiting conditions at the same time.

perhaps they werent ready, i dont know. TranscendingLife said he waits to see a few pins before fruting, but TBH i got impatient.

But, they seemed good and moist. im sure the fan in the samll room dried them out.

i did follow franks tek about the dialing in like a boss, but you are saying that the ceiling fan would be good enough? they would be pretty much underneath it but about 5 feet to the left of it.

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Re: What am i missing? fruiting of monotub [Re: Mike1230]
    #20134806 - 06/15/14 03:09 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

what size mini mono should i use, as in size of tub by quarts/ liters.

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Re: What am i missing? fruiting of monotub [Re: Alex Oxblood]
    #20135113 - 06/15/14 04:09 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

27qt tub with 2-3 qt spawn to 4qt bulk sub, you have 12 qt getting read so I'd probably do either 4 minis with 3qt each

or maybe one 66qt with 6qt to a brick of coir and 2qt verm and then make two minis with the remaining spawn

That's if you wanna do minis, personally I would do two reg monos but it's totally up to you and how you feel about your spawn

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Re: What am i missing? fruiting of monotub [Re: Mdahmer]
    #20135147 - 06/15/14 04:22 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

I'm down to throw the eggs in 1 basket. I'm gonna do 2 tubs. I don't know why I always fuck up at this last stage. I know Mono's are set and forget. If I use the ceiling fan for my Fae instead of that high powered fan in that small closet I should be OK? I just would like some clarity on WHEN to fruit it. I read some places that coir doesn't always turn completely snow white to tell if its completely colonized. But should I wait for a pin or two?  I need it spelled out for me, what I need to do?

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Re: What am i missing? fruiting of monotub [Re: Alex Oxblood]
    #20135157 - 06/15/14 04:24 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

Lol it's all good man just enjoy the ride, I used my ceiling fan fine. Here check out my first tub it's got a lot of pics and it wasn't solid white when it started pinning like I usually see in other peoples tubs



Lol. Dunno wtf happened there, well try again http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20010269/page/1

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Re: What am i missing? fruiting of monotub [Re: Mdahmer]
    #20135181 - 06/15/14 04:33 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

The best advice I can give you is to make trays. Atleast until you get a few good harvests and learn it all then try the monos. Use your grain jars with the damon5050's coir tek. Then make a ton of small trays. Youll have way more trays than you wouldve had monotubs, so if you lose a few youll still have some left to fruit. I started out with trays and I always had great success. I used trays that came with a aluminum lid also. I only do monotubs now and still use damon5050's coir tek. I usually make 15 monotubs at a time and lose about 2 out of every 15. But I think its because I always make a couple tubs out of suspected contam bags just to see if theyll fruit.

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Re: What am i missing? fruiting of monotub [Re: NORMALGUY2]
    #20135186 - 06/15/14 04:35 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

Follow damon5050s tek, make sure to let your sub cool down completely before adding spawn, and I also make sure to wash out and spray all of the tubs with alcohol before I put my sub and spawn in. And I spray the entire room too. And I wouldnt work with a ceiling fan on either. Id think that it would just kick up dust and other unwanted stuff in the room

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Re: What am i missing? fruiting of monotub [Re: NORMALGUY2]
    #20135239 - 06/15/14 04:49 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

I was talking about the ceiling fan for a fresh air exchange

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Re: What am i missing? fruiting of monotub [Re: NORMALGUY2]
    #20135381 - 06/15/14 05:20 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

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Follow damon5050s tek, make sure to let your sub cool down completely before adding spawn, and I also make sure to wash out and spray all of the tubs with alcohol before I put my sub and spawn in. And I spray the entire room too. And I wouldnt work with a ceiling fan on either. Id think that it would just kick up dust and other unwanted stuff in the room



there's no real point in cleaning the room or tubs out with iso, it's not a sterile process by any means:super:


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Re: What am i missing? fruiting of monotub [Re: NORMALGUY2]
    #20135395 - 06/15/14 05:23 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

Basically I want to know whats the cause of my tube not fruiting. I'm gonna add more moisture this time. Dial in like a boss and fruit in the living room. They're supposed to be set and forget, so I'm just going to put the poly fill in and let them do their thing. The problem is when do I actually put them into fruiting conditions, that's another dilemma I have

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Re: What am i missing? fruiting of monotub [Re: Alex Oxblood]
    #20135419 - 06/15/14 05:27 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

little tips for monos.....leave your self enough excess liner to fold down toward the sub....and watch your sub to tell ya what ya need to fix, if it startsgoing all aerial on ya increase your fae, if it doesn't don't change anything.
ceiling fans are fine to use just keep an eye on the substrate, if it starts to dry mist it and change the setting on the fan and or tighten some holes up


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    #20135563 - 06/15/14 05:58 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

By dry, you mean no beads of moisture on the sub?

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Re: What am i missing? fruiting of monotub [Re: Alex Oxblood]
    #20136144 - 06/15/14 07:48 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

yes:super:


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Re: What am i missing? fruiting of monotub [Re: Alex Oxblood]
    #20136238 - 06/15/14 08:01 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

make your sub on the dry side rather than wet. it'll colonize much faster.
I guess your previous tubs got contamed if you threw them out?
and clean grain spawn is your no1 friend!

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Re: What am i missing? fruiting of monotub [Re: spacechildo]
    #20138152 - 06/16/14 05:12 AM (10 years, 7 months ago)

Yes they pretty much just said "fuck you" and stopped growing.

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Re: What am i missing? fruiting of monotub [Re: Alex Oxblood]
    #20142494 - 06/16/14 11:04 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Ive noticed aslong as I have clean grain spawn and dont make my sub too wet, the tubs always come out fine. When u first started using damon5050's tek on trays and tubs I wouldnt be as sterile as I couldve been and still had great success. I just make sure to wash every thing out and spray everything with alcohol and thats it. Oh and I try to do it as fast as I can so thatim not leaving the container full of sub wide open exposed for too long. I started making my tubs in the shower also, that way when im done its easy to clean up.lol. hey it works

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Re: What am i missing? fruiting of monotub [Re: NORMALGUY2]
    #20143048 - 06/17/14 01:54 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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Ive noticed aslong as I have clean grain spawn and dont make my sub too wet, the tubs always come out fine. When u first started using damon5050's tek on trays and tubs I wouldnt be as sterile as I couldve been and still had great success. I just make sure to wash every thing out and spray everything with alcohol and thats it. Oh and I try to do it as fast as I can so thatim not leaving the container full of sub wide open exposed for too long. I started making my tubs in the shower also, that way when im done its easy to clean up.lol. hey it works




Doing BRF cakes and i forgot to clean my SGFC hope i dont have issues.


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Re: What am i missing? fruiting of monotub [Re: Asshat331] * 1
    #20143178 - 06/17/14 03:01 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

No that shouldnt be a problem. Alot of people on here go way over board being sanitary which is a good thing, but when it comes to colonized brf cakes they wont contam from that. Its even in RR's notes that contams in the air arent the problem, its contams that are in stagnat stale air that give you problems. Sufficient fae will keep youre cakes safe. Plus your brf cakes wont be touching the tub anyways, you either set them on your jar lid, foil, rack, or on the perlite. And I always put some peroxid mixed with the water of my tubs. I noticed over the years that it helps alot.

Also, back when I still did cakes I found that for me the sgfc was nothing but a headache with alot of tweeking. I started to use a tub with a soaker hose or bubbler rocks at the bottom with water, then hydroton.And I put 1 hole on each side of the tub. The air going into the soaker hose or bubbler rock creates your humidity blowing bubbles threw the water and hydroton. And also adds a positive air oressure in your tub to keep up fae. While the stagnant air is pushed out of the tub threw the two holes. I saw the tub design on some website being marketed as hydroshrooms, so I built one and it worked seriously a million times better than a sgfc. I never used a sgfc again. And from that point I never used brf cakes again. I started using grain bags from outgrow to makes trays, then put the trays in my new tubs with the hydroton and soaker hoses. Plus it seems like the hydroton lasts forever and is easier to clean. Try that design out man youll love it. I cant believe all beginners dont use that tub instead of the sgfc. All of the beginner problems I had were from my sgfc always juggling humidity and fae.smh

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Re: What am i missing? fruiting of monotub [Re: NORMALGUY2]
    #20143190 - 06/17/14 03:08 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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you either set them on your jar lid, foil, rack, or on the perlite.



Never set cakes directly on the perlite....always use a coaster of some kind.

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I saw the tub design on some website being marketed as hydroshrooms, so I built one and it worked seriously a million times better than a sgfc.



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All of the beginner problems I had were from my sgfc always juggling humidity and fae.smh



If the SGFC was built correctly, you had no problems with humidity or FAE.

Sounds like you had Chinese made hygrometer problems, or you built the chamber wrong.

A properly built SGFC will have constant fresh air while at the same time have very high humidity, and only needs to be misted and fanned twice a day.

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Re: What am i missing? fruiting of monotub [Re: PussyFart]
    #20143250 - 06/17/14 03:55 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Either way for me personally a sgfc was a pain, plus I couldnt use that tub again except for another sgfc. Sgfc are more maintence and hands on. Basically for beginners to get a feel for things. I haventeven touched a hygrometer since I stopped using sgfc because humidity has never been a problem ever since. Plus it takes a shit ton of sgfc' s to get lbs of "oysters" and aint nobody got time fo that.lmao. Hell ive fruited massive balls of colonized grain inside of tupperware containers with just wet paper towels no perlite and still pulled a zip and a half.lmao. Those were the days:ahahaha:

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Re: What am i missing? fruiting of monotub [Re: NORMALGUY2]
    #20143255 - 06/17/14 03:58 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Oh and I remember when I first started I wasted a bunch of money on digital hygrometers only to find out theyre useless in fruiting chambers. Theyll read almost 100 no matter what. So I got some $40 all metal analogs from the cigar shop down the street. And that was still a waste cuz after I stopped sgfc's I never used my hygrometers again.

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    #20143265 - 06/17/14 04:04 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Oh and the hydroshroom thing in talking about they sell it as the hydroshroom kit. I know theres no such thing as a hydroshroom. But I copied theyre fc design. The design has another name, ive seen it on here before a few years ago but I forget the other name for it. Its basically just a self automated system. There was a huge fight on here about it like 4 years ago because the company was mad people were just building the set up themselves instead of buying theirs. Even though its just a tub with a soaker hose at the bottom, water and hydroton.lmao

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    #20143303 - 06/17/14 04:29 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Had to find it since you called bullshit. I guess people forgot about this kind of fc. I havent been on the site in like 3-4 years Once I found this fc I never used a sgfc or hygrometer ever again. But I eventually moved on from this aswell. Now I do monos and im out growing monos , so I just colonize big blocks kinda like monos and fruit on racks in either a martha or a controlled room kinda like they do for industrial mushroom growers, and outdoor patches

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Re: What am i missing? fruiting of monotub [Re: NORMALGUY2]
    #20143374 - 06/17/14 05:28 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

It's called a PMP setup.....and you never needed a hygrometer in the first place.

You built the SGFC wrong....your statements make it obvious.

There is no way a pump can out perform constant passive FAE, but think what you will.

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    #20143464 - 06/17/14 06:12 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Who said I built it wrong? Or that my sgfc wasnt successful? I just said it was a pain in the ass. I made mine exactly like the video shows. And i dont need a hygrometer? I thought u said maybe i had a cheap chinese one insinuating i maybe needed a better one??? You assume alot. I just upgraded from cakes and sgfc's once i realized there were more efficient fc's. And I thougt you called bullshit on that poor mans pod now youre an expert trying to school me? Lmao. Way to go search engine.lol. Dont let the new register date fool you ive been on this site alot longer than you think. Im trying to give the op some advice on another type of fc so whats your problem? Oh and maybe you should go read that post of rr's notes on contams and fae/positive pressure. Thats where I got the idea and it clearly works since I never had to fan those tubs unless I just felt like it. Man since when are all u noobs professional mycologist:ahahaha:

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Re: What am i missing? fruiting of monotub [Re: NORMALGUY2]
    #20143852 - 06/17/14 08:38 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

poor mans pods suck, and automated tubs pushing in air or water saturated air never works out well.
The OP is doing monotubs though, a set n forget system with tons of great results!
I can't agree with anything you're saying normalguy2.
most the stuff you say shows you dont really understand the basics of mushroom growing.

A SGFC dont need a hygrometer because rh is always good when built and positioned according to specs.
I bet you skipped the bottom holes because you didn't want perlite on your floor :tongue2:

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    #20144230 - 06/17/14 10:21 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Yes this thread went way south. I was asking on tips to acquire some actual fruits when it comes to the fruiting process as far as proper Fae and rh/moisture. But on another note, I prepped some more jars. I doused then in gypsum and coffee during the soak and there are still grains coating all the grains. Will this affect the mycelium growing or will they love it?

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    #20144234 - 06/17/14 10:22 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Grains of gypsum coating all the rye*****

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Re: What am i missing? fruiting of monotub [Re: NORMALGUY2]
    #20144958 - 06/17/14 01:24 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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Who said I built it wrong? Or that my sgfc wasnt successful? I just said it was a pain in the ass. I made mine exactly like the video shows. And i dont need a hygrometer? I thought u said maybe i had a cheap chinese one insinuating i maybe needed a better one??? You assume alot.



I was insinuating that you don't need a hygrometer at all.

Even with your PMP setup, manual misting and fanning is required.

It's the same amount of manual work as a SGFC, but you just added uneeded electronic garbage that you would have been just fine without.

That is all I was saying....nobody needs a hygrometer for cakes in a SGFC, because if the SGFC is built right you will have high humidity and tons of FAE.

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I just upgraded from cakes and sgfc's once i realized there were more efficient fc's.



A PMP is not more efficient than a SGFC........a PMP uses electricity.....a SGFC does not.

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And I thougt you called bullshit on that poor mans pod now youre an expert trying to school me? Lmao. Way to go search engine.lol. Dont let the new register date fool you ive been on this site alot longer than you think.



I totally get it......you were here 10 years ago......but a lot has changed in that timeframe.

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Oh and maybe you should go read that post of rr's notes on contams and fae/positive pressure. Thats where I got the idea and it clearly works since I never had to fan those tubs unless I just felt like it. Man since when are all u noobs professional mycologist:ahahaha:



Those notes were not put together by RR himself......

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May I suggest there are other, far more dependable ways of getting humidity and fresh air than using an imported mechanical cool mist.  I grow mushrooms for a living and don't even own a humidifier, large or small.  There is absolutely no reason to want positive pressure in a growing chamber.
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Re: What am i missing? fruiting of monotub [Re: PussyFart]
    #20147155 - 06/17/14 09:26 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

I wasnt talking about a humidifier or cool mist. I would never recommend anyone to use one of those.  And that post last post of RR's contradicts thr one I got my info from. Youre right he didnt out it together but it was all of his notes posted by another user. Positive pressure worked amazing for me. When I first started as a beginner and found that f set up it was a massive upgrade from the sgfc jn my opinion. Sure sgfc's work fine, but to me its like the least efficient way to grow. When I show my friends how to grow I just show them the pmp because to a noob it takes away all of the tweeking and other problems theyd expierence with humidity/fae. Why go threw all that when you csn start off with a pmp ya know?

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    #20147190 - 06/17/14 09:30 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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poor mans pods suck, and automated tubs pushing in air or water saturated air never works out well.
The OP is doing monotubs though, a set n forget system with tons of great results!
I can't agree with anything you're saying normalguy2.
most the stuff you say shows you dont really understand the basics of mushroom growing.

A SGFC dont need a hygrometer because rh is always good when built and positioned according to specs.
I bet you skipped the bottom holes because you didn't want perlite on your floor :tongue2:




Im the one that said I didnt need hygrometers at all. And I just posted my grow of 24 72qt monos amd another 9 pmps full of trays. I dont know the basics of growing? Wow. Ive been doing this for over a decade man. I think u read it wrong. Anyways sorry to grt off topic op. And pussyfart I agree with what youre saying I guess I think were both debating separate things

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Re: What am i missing? fruiting of monotub [Re: NORMALGUY2]
    #20147277 - 06/17/14 09:45 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

I just don't get where your coming from talking about noobs having problems with having to tweak a shotgun for humidity and FAE it really is a simple as build it, set it up, mist and fan sometimes. It cannot be easier to get the correct humidity and FAE...just putting that out the for any new growers who may come across this thread.

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    #20147309 - 06/17/14 09:51 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

I know that its easy. But thats probably the majority of the posts I see from new growers asking why do their fruits look a certain way . And its always fan more or mist more or blahblah. Basically I jist mean more maintenance I guess is a better way to say it. Theres easier more efficient ways. But op is doing a mono so I dont know how it even got into sgfc's so ill leave it alone. /hide thread

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Re: What am i missing? fruiting of monotub [Re: Mdahmer]
    #20147339 - 06/17/14 09:57 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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I just don't get where your coming from talking about noobs having problems with having to tweak a shotgun for humidity and FAE it really is a simple as build it, set it up, mist and fan sometimes. It cannot be easier to get the correct humidity and FAE...just putting that out the for any new growers who may come across this thread.




yeah, you gotta be pretty noob to not get a sgfc working :derfase:

edit: those fruits you bragged about are seriously lacking fae. you should try a mono as TL's.
and those aren't 71qt's :lol:

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Re: What am i missing? fruiting of monotub [Re: spacechildo]
    #20147376 - 06/17/14 10:05 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

I never said I had problems with sgfc's go back and read some more. And how csn you tell me those arent 71qt tubs? And that those fruits are lacking anything? Wheres your fruits you picked today? Those fruits are all massive. Only thing wrong with those fruits is that I let them mature toi much, and that they were already on the dehydrator for an hour when the pic was taken. But youre an expert and all seeing as how youvr been on the site so long and all. You sure those tubs arent 71qts? Since youre such an expert you csm tell just from the pic right? Oh ok

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Re: What am i missing? fruiting of monotub [Re: NORMALGUY2]
    #20147393 - 06/17/14 10:08 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

I'm looking at your tall and skinny mushrooms and know that is a sign they are lacking in fae.
And if that is much better than what you did in a sgfc you obviously did something wrong/didn't quite cut it.
dont need to be no expert to know any of this, just watch the conversations around for a few weeks..

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    #20147430 - 06/17/14 10:15 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Maybe they just look small in the pics, just like how my tubs apparently dont look like 71qt tubs, and I guess my 113 qt tub isnt that size either? And like I said those fruits had already been drying for an hour so they did lose some size but theyre definetly not small

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    #20147453 - 06/17/14 10:18 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)



these are not drying :facepalm:
but they sure lack fresh air!

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    #20147574 - 06/17/14 10:39 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

I explained that already. That pic was 3 days before harvest. The ones dryin was the pic on the dehydrator. I just now picked the fruits in the pic you posted and put the updated pic in my post. Of course they look small in that pic. But go look at them now and tell me those things are small and skinny. Oh and I posted pics of the stickers on my tubs for whoever said theyre not 71 at and 66 qt. Damn my tubs dont look big and my fruits are small? Lol. Its cool. I know what I harvest off each tub and im more than happy with it. But those fruits were nowhere nesr small when it was time to harvest. If youre gonna post a pic atleast post the updated one of that same tub u just posted when they were harvested

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Re: What am i missing? fruiting of monotub [Re: NORMALGUY2]
    #20147650 - 06/17/14 10:52 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

TALL and skinny. still lacking fae..

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Re: What am i missing? fruiting of monotub [Re: spacechildo]
    #20147669 - 06/17/14 10:58 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Im done man.lmao. Youre gonna tell me those fat ones I just posted next to the lighter are tall and skinny? The stems are fatter than the bic lighter next to them.And those werent even my biggest ones.lmao. u posted a pic of that tub from 3 days ago of course they were skinny. Im done man.

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Re: What am i missing? fruiting of monotub [Re: spacechildo]
    #20147739 - 06/17/14 11:13 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

of course they were skinny, your fc was way off.
so stop giving crappy advice and get with the real stuff.
no holes monos suck, while a truly dialed in mono is boss!
If ya dont wanna do better just stick to what you're doing, if you wanna see someone giving great advice on FC's/monos checkout frank horrigan.

glad you finally stopped, this was getting real repetitive and tiresome, trying to teach someone who just wanna boast..

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    #20266433 - 07/13/14 11:14 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

I cased my sub with the remaining CVG I had prepped and after we talked, I introduced fruiting.

I have a ballast with a dual 6500K light setup hanging from the ceiling about a foot from the top of the tub and its on a timer for a 12/12 cycle.

I've been misting and fanning 3 times a day. once in the morning before work, when I get off and before I go to bed.

I have a small 6 inch fan on low setting hooked up to a timer that runs it 1 hour on, 1 hour off.

the holes are stuffed medium-loose and I think im getting the right amount of FAE based on the condensation in the tub and the small dry rings around the holes.

The tub has been in fruiting conditions for 5 days now and all I see is the mycelium colonizing the casing. No primordia or any other signs of pinning etc.




This is always the part that I get stuck at.... Whats the deal?

I read on this forum that I should have used a non-nutritive casing, but the only thing I have like that is verm, and ive also read that verm sucks by itself as a casing. There are so many contradicting opinions on here, its hard to just go with something.

What would YOU do?

Whats skrewing me up at this stage everytime?

I really want to see something out of this batch man...im fucking dieing already. lol. What do I have to do now? I don't think there is much I CAN do.

Also, I started my first agar petris.

I nocced em up with a piece of colonized grain on the 9th. Check it out.


Will the myc work its way off the grans and onto the agar? I kind of just dropped it in there.

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Re: What am i missing? fruiting of monotub [Re: Alex Oxblood]
    #20266477 - 07/13/14 11:25 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

How thick was the casing layer of coir you added?
it looks a bit off to me.

the agar grains actually dont look that bad.

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    #20267576 - 07/13/14 04:50 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

The myc hasnt transfered from the grain to the agar yet.

The casing was about as much as a top layer

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    #20271785 - 07/14/14 03:44 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

hehe, well how thick is a top layer to you?

how's the agar plate doing?

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    #20275719 - 07/15/14 08:00 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

About a 1/4 inch. All its doing is colonizing it. And now I'm seeing yellow metabolites on some of the really white parts.

The agar plates are doing OK. Still the same fluffy myc transferring off of the grains onto the agar. Will I be able to clean it up with PDA?

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    #20276750 - 07/15/14 01:40 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Well?

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