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Re: Being a Muslim is worse than being a pregnant crackhead [Re: EdibleStereos]
#20128483 - 06/14/14 11:01 AM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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Ok, so what about the rest of the 99.5% of islam?
you guys nit pick the worst parts, which make up a tiny fraction of islam and then completely disregard and ignore the rest of it.
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clock_of_omens
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Re: Being a Muslim is worse than being a pregnant crackhead [Re: Shins] 2
#20128510 - 06/14/14 11:07 AM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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Some of the people in this thread are ridiculous. Koods isn't bashing Muslims as a whole. He is bashing the ideology. He is saying that even the people who aren't extremists are still supporting an ideology that leads to violence and sexism and homophobia and plenty of other toxic bullshit. I don't see why that is hard to understand.
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Shins said: Ok, so what about the rest of the 99.5% of islam?
More than .5% of Islam is bad. Islamic countries in the Middle East are some of the worst perpetrators of human rights violations.
Edited by clock_of_omens (06/14/14 11:07 AM)
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Re: Being a Muslim is worse than being a pregnant crackhead [Re: Shins]
#20128516 - 06/14/14 11:09 AM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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Shins said: Ok, so what about the rest of the 99.5% of islam?
you guys nit pick the worst parts, which make up a tiny fraction of islam and then completely disregard and ignore the rest of it.
I am sure there a good muslims however the religion of islam well any religion in general is dangerous because it asks its followers to suspend there logic and reason to follow on faith a bunch of nonsense. Belief in God is nonsensical because no evidence has been presented for his or her existence.
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Re: Being a Muslim is worse than being a pregnant crackhead [Re: clock_of_omens]
#20128517 - 06/14/14 11:09 AM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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clock_of_omens said: Some of the people in this thread are ridiculous. Koods isn't bashing Muslims as a whole. He is bashing the ideology. He is saying that even the people who aren't extremists are still supporting an ideology that leads to violence and sexism and homophobia and plenty of other toxic bullshit. I don't see why that is hard to understand.
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Shins said: Ok, so what about the rest of the 99.5% of islam?
More than .5% of Islam is bad. Islamic countries in the Middle East are some of the worst perpetrators of human rights violations.
Wow I agree with clock
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Re: Being a Muslim is worse than being a pregnant crackhead [Re: Shins]
#20128522 - 06/14/14 11:11 AM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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Shins said: Ok, so what about the rest of the 99.5% of islam?
you guys nit pick the worst parts, which make up a tiny fraction of islam and then completely disregard and ignore the rest of it.
Reread what I said. and read the thread.
I was poking fun at koods by calling him a bigot, while he decries islam as being bigoted.
I've been the one saying this.
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The problem really isnt in religion. It is people living in war stricken, poor, desolate countries with little hope. These hopeless people are easily manipulated into extreme ways of thinking.
If it wasnt islam, they would still act the same, but under a different flag.
Religion is a human creation, it is a tool. It is humans who decide how to use this tool. Like a hammer, it can be used to build and create, or it can be used to destroy and kill someone. At the end of the day, it is still just an inanimate tool. Ultimately humans decide whether it is used for good or evil.
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Re: Being a Muslim is worse than being a pregnant crackhead [Re: Gilgamesh18]
#20128529 - 06/14/14 11:12 AM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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You always agree with me, you just don't know it yet.
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Re: Being a Muslim is worse than being a pregnant crackhead [Re: Gilgamesh18] 1
#20128545 - 06/14/14 11:16 AM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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Gilgamesh18 said:
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Shins said: Ok, so what about the rest of the 99.5% of islam?
you guys nit pick the worst parts, which make up a tiny fraction of islam and then completely disregard and ignore the rest of it.
I am sure there a good muslims however the religion of islam well any religion in general is dangerous because it asks its followers to suspend there logic and reason to follow on faith a bunch of nonsense. Belief in God is nonsensical because no evidence has been presented for his or her existence.
None that you are aware of
Religion can offer you wisdom without you choosing to suspend your logic. There are lessons that can be learned from it without going full on into it. You are displaying black and white thinking right now - which is not logical. So don't act like you are such an authority on logic. Every good scientist knows to keep an open mind because just because YOU are not aware of evidence does not mean there is none. You are taking a very egotistical approach and it is not logical. Science was invented by deeply spiritual people who accepted god; a pantheist god.
you self rightios bigots are the worst because you are so hateful and cocky in your ignorance.
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Re: Being a Muslim is worse than being a pregnant crackhead [Re: EdibleStereos]
#20128549 - 06/14/14 11:18 AM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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EdibleStereos said:
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Shins said: Ok, so what about the rest of the 99.5% of islam?
you guys nit pick the worst parts, which make up a tiny fraction of islam and then completely disregard and ignore the rest of it.
Reread what I said. and read the thread.
I was poking fun at koods by calling him a bigot, while he decries islam as being bigoted.
I've been the one saying this.
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EdibleStereos said:
The problem really isnt in religion. It is people living in war stricken, poor, desolate countries with little hope. These hopeless people are easily manipulated into extreme ways of thinking.
If it wasnt islam, they would still act the same, but under a different flag.
Religion is a human creation, it is a tool. It is humans who decide how to use this tool. Like a hammer, it can be used to build and create, or it can be used to destroy and kill someone. At the end of the day, it is still just an inanimate tool. Ultimately humans decide whether it is used for good or evil.
I agree very much with you don't worry.
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Re: Being a Muslim is worse than being a pregnant crackhead [Re: Shins]
#20128572 - 06/14/14 11:23 AM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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Shins said:
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Shins said: Ok, so what about the rest of the 99.5% of islam?
you guys nit pick the worst parts, which make up a tiny fraction of islam and then completely disregard and ignore the rest of it.
I am sure there a good muslims however the religion of islam well any religion in general is dangerous because it asks its followers to suspend there logic and reason to follow on faith a bunch of nonsense. Belief in God is nonsensical because no evidence has been presented for his or her existence.
None that you are aware of
Religion can offer you wisdom without you choosing to suspend your logic. There are lessons that can be learned from it without going full on into it. You are displaying black and white thinking right now - which is not logical. So don't act like you are such an authority on logic. Every good scientist knows to keep an open mind because just because YOU are not aware of evidence does not mean there is none. You are taking a very egotistical approach and it is not logical. Science was invented by deeply spiritual people who accepted god; a pantheist god.
you self rightios bigots are the worst because you are so hateful and cocky in your ignorance.
My thinking on this matter is black and white because there are only two possible answers. Either God exists or he does not since no evidence that can be tested by the scientific method proves a God or gods existence then I will disbelieve.
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Re: Being a Muslim is worse than being a pregnant crackhead [Re: Gilgamesh18]
#20128586 - 06/14/14 11:27 AM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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No evidence you are aware of.
Black and white thinking is not logical... I hate you self rightious ignorant atheists.
Here you go know it all. The evidence of god is literally everywhere.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantheism
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Re: Being a Muslim is worse than being a pregnant crackhead [Re: Shins]
#20128599 - 06/14/14 11:30 AM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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How is nature evidence of god?
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Re: Being a Muslim is worse than being a pregnant crackhead [Re: Shins]
#20128601 - 06/14/14 11:30 AM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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Shins said: No evidence you are aware of.
Black and white thinking is not logical... I hate you self rightious ignorant atheists.
Here you go know it all. The evidence of god is literally everywhere.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantheism
So would it be fair to say that you define "God" as the physical universe?
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Re: Being a Muslim is worse than being a pregnant crackhead [Re: Shins]
#20128618 - 06/14/14 11:33 AM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_esotericism
"Although the protosciences were widespread in the ancient world, the rise of modern science was born from occult varieties of Western Esotericism reinterpreted in the "Age of Enlightenment" and is documented "
The western occultists, who were pantheists and believed in god, INVENTED science and pioneered the age of enlightenment.
Its just too bad that you guys still have the lights out upstairs - and are so cocky in your ignorance.
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Re: Being a Muslim is worse than being a pregnant crackhead [Re: Shins]
#20128627 - 06/14/14 11:34 AM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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Shins said: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_esotericism
"Although the protosciences were widespread in the ancient world, the rise of modern science was born from occult varieties of Western Esotericism reinterpreted in the "Age of Enlightenment" and is documented "
The western occultists, who were pantheists and believed in god, INVENTED science and pioneered the age of enlightenment.
Its just too bad that you guys still have the lights out upstairs - and are so cocky in your ignorance.
I personally think its more arrogant to ASSERT that a deity must exist without proof...
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Re: Being a Muslim is worse than being a pregnant crackhead [Re: clock_of_omens]
#20128631 - 06/14/14 11:35 AM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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clock_of_omens said: Some of the people in this thread are ridiculous. Koods isn't bashing Muslims as a whole. He is bashing the ideology. He is saying that even the people who aren't extremists are still supporting an ideology that leads to violence and sexism and homophobia and plenty of other toxic bullshit. I don't see why that is hard to understand.
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Shins said: Ok, so what about the rest of the 99.5% of islam?
More than .5% of Islam is bad. Islamic countries in the Middle East are some of the worst perpetrators of human rights violations.
This. What koods is saying is correct. And as clock_of_omens says he isn't bashing muslim people as a whole but their religion. That is a huge difference. "Koods isn't bashing Muslims as a whole. He is bashing the ideology. He is saying that even the people who aren't extremists are still supporting an ideology that leads to violence and sexism and homophobia and plenty of other toxic bullshit. I don't see why that is hard to understand."
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Re: Being a Muslim is worse than being a pregnant crackhead [Re: Gilgamesh18]
#20128636 - 06/14/14 11:36 AM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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have you guys figured out if god exists yet?
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Shins
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Re: Being a Muslim is worse than being a pregnant crackhead [Re: Gilgamesh18]
#20128639 - 06/14/14 11:36 AM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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Gilgamesh18 said:
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Shins said: No evidence you are aware of.
Black and white thinking is not logical... I hate you self rightious ignorant atheists.
Here you go know it all. The evidence of god is literally everywhere.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantheism
So would it be fair to say that you define "God" as the physical universe?
There is an etremely lare array of religions, both historic and present, that view god in this way. Bhudfism was mentioned earlier, bhuddism is one of them.
Atheists so cocky in their self-rightiousness that they are blinded by their bigotry to alternative viewpoints like this.
And its annoying seeing them so cocky in their ignorance.
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Re: Being a Muslim is worse than being a pregnant crackhead [Re: Shins]
#20128646 - 06/14/14 11:38 AM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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Shins said: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_esotericism
"Although the protosciences were widespread in the ancient world, the rise of modern science was born from occult varieties of Western Esotericism reinterpreted in the "Age of Enlightenment" and is documented "
The western occultists, who were pantheists and believed in god, INVENTED science and pioneered the age of enlightenment.
Its just too bad that you guys still have the lights out upstairs - and are so cocky in your ignorance.
The fact that the people who "invented science" believed in god has no relevance. Most people believed in a god of some sort way back then. That is an appeal to tradition. Have you even read your own sig?
Edited by clock_of_omens (06/14/14 11:38 AM)
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Re: Being a Muslim is worse than being a pregnant crackhead [Re: Shins]
#20128649 - 06/14/14 11:38 AM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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Being too cocky gets you bitch-slapped by the universe in my experience.
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Shins
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Re: Being a Muslim is worse than being a pregnant crackhead [Re: clock_of_omens]
#20128650 - 06/14/14 11:38 AM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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clock_of_omens said: How is nature evidence of god?
Nature IS god to a pantheist.
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