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The Ecstatic
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Re: Iraq is going down in flames..... [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#20181109 - 06/24/14 07:33 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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kakashi68
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Re: Iraq is going down in flames..... [Re: The Ecstatic]
#20181289 - 06/24/14 08:14 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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I like how we discussed iraq in the last page it was nice
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The Ecstatic
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Re: Iraq is going down in flames..... [Re: kakashi68]
#20183379 - 06/25/14 08:08 AM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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Right.
Well someone air striked ISIS this morning, Pentagon officials denying it was us, some other guys saying it might've been Syrian fighters, which would make sense.
What I think is laughable is that on one side of an imaginary line, the Assad regime is doing us a favor. If he struck the same group within his own border he'd be attacking our ally.
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2014/06/syrian-war-planes-strike-isis-targets-in-iraq-us-says/
Keep in mind, this is one US official telling one ABC reporter. RT is reporting the strikes are from an unknown origin. Can't say for sure just yet.
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Re: Iraq is going down in flames..... [Re: The Ecstatic]
#20184044 - 06/25/14 11:53 AM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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The Ecstatic said: If you're not a friendly state, you're a rogue state. And once we manufacture an excuse to anti-rogue you, you become a failed state.
Iran 53, Guatemala 54, Congo 60, Dominican Republic 61, South Vietnam 63, Brazil 64, Chile 73, and countless other minor regime changes in between..
Where on earth did you get that list? From Howard Zinn or Noam Chomsky? What are those names of countries and those numbers supposed to represent?
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Re: Iraq is going down in flames..... [Re: Phred]
#20184292 - 06/25/14 12:57 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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Phred said:
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The Ecstatic said: If you're not a friendly state, you're a rogue state. And once we manufacture an excuse to anti-rogue you, you become a failed state.
Iran 53, Guatemala 54, Congo 60, Dominican Republic 61, South Vietnam 63, Brazil 64, Chile 73, and countless other minor regime changes in between..
Where on earth did you get that list? From Howard Zinn or Noam Chomsky? What are those names of countries and those numbers supposed to represent?
Phred
Nations, and years, in which the US government orchestrated regime changes to overthrow unfriendly leaders.
There are lots of lists you can find, a lot with many more nations and years, but these are the clearest and most proven examples.
A good Wikipedia overview: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Covert_United_States_foreign_regime_change_actions
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Re: Iraq is going down in flames..... [Re: The Ecstatic]
#20184458 - 06/25/14 01:33 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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You vastly over estimate the competence of the CIA. Further it is beyond idiotic to blame the US for South Vietnam.
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The Ecstatic
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Re: Iraq is going down in flames..... [Re: zappaisgod]
#20184485 - 06/25/14 01:40 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: You vastly over estimate the competence of the CIA. Further it is beyond idiotic to blame the US for South Vietnam.
That's your opinion.
Second, I'm not blaming them for the entirety of South Vietnam, only the regime change in '63, where Diem, Nuh, and Tung were captured and executed.
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Re: Iraq is going down in flames..... [Re: The Ecstatic]
#20184504 - 06/25/14 01:43 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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The Ecstatic said:
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zappaisgod said: You vastly over estimate the competence of the CIA. Further it is beyond idiotic to blame the US for South Vietnam.
That's your opinion.
Second, I'm not blaming them for the entirety of South Vietnam, only the regime change in '63, where Diem, Nuh, and Tung were captured and executed.
I find it amazing that anybody this day and age thinks the CIA is in any way shape or form competent.
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Re: Iraq is going down in flames..... [Re: zappaisgod]
#20184536 - 06/25/14 01:48 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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Ok, I'll jot that down in my journal so I don't forget.
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luvdemshrooms
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Re: Iraq is going down in flames..... [Re: The Ecstatic]
#20184548 - 06/25/14 01:53 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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Based on your posts... it won't help. You have to look at your notes for them to be truly effective.
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Re: Iraq is going down in flames..... [Re: luvdemshrooms] 1
#20184681 - 06/25/14 02:23 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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So you agree with zappa that the CIA is in no way shape or form competent?
Or are you just typing because your fingers are restless?
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Re: Iraq is going down in flames..... [Re: The Ecstatic]
#20184748 - 06/25/14 02:40 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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There's things I agree with Z on. there's things I don't.
So what?
When I feel the need to address a comment of his, I do so. What a lame style you have.
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Re: Iraq is going down in flames..... [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#20184863 - 06/25/14 03:06 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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luvdemshrooms said: There's things I agree with Z on. there's things I don't.
So what?
When I feel the need to address a comment of his, I do so. What a lame style you have.
Do you have any opinions on anything in the realm of politics?
You're so afraid of stumbling over your words that you'd rather type out that nonsense deflection than a simple yes or no. You're quick to judge everyone you can, but when it comes time in the circle for you to share, suddenly it's not your area of expertise.
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Re: Iraq is going down in flames..... [Re: The Ecstatic]
#20184908 - 06/25/14 03:15 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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When I have a solid answer, I give it. When I don't, I'm man enough to say so.
You should try it. It's a better alternative than constantly getting your facts wrong.
-------------------- You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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Re: Iraq is going down in flames..... [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#20187036 - 06/25/14 10:50 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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The CIA is just one smoung many secret agencies. I'm sure therexare agencies none ofvus havevever hesrd about
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Re: Iraq is going down in flames..... [Re: The Ecstatic]
#20190007 - 06/26/14 04:30 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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The Ecstatic said: What I think is laughable is that on one side of an imaginary line, the Assad regime is doing us a favor. If he struck the same group within his own border he'd be attacking our ally.
I think about this every time Lindsey Graham opens his sugary sweet little mouth. A year ago he was trying to give these assholes anti-aircraft missiles, anti-tank weapons, and air support. Now they're the next 9/11 waiting to happen.
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Re: Iraq is going down in flames..... [Re: mycosis]
#20194227 - 06/27/14 01:29 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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mycosis said:
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The Ecstatic said: What I think is laughable is that on one side of an imaginary line, the Assad regime is doing us a favor. If he struck the same group within his own border he'd be attacking our ally.
I think about this every time Lindsey Graham opens his sugary sweet little mouth. A year ago he was trying to give these assholes anti-aircraft missiles, anti-tank weapons, and air support. Now they're the next 9/11 waiting to happen.
"Due to the most recent terrorist attack, were shelving a few civil liberties and invading two aggressive nations in the Middle East."
Hmm.
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