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OfflineChopperDave
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Learning Guitar
    #2011648 - 10/15/03 03:01 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Its my birthday friday, and Im probably going to receive anywhere from $200 to $300 from my family. $50 to $60 is going towards construction of a PMP and other supplies im running out of, but with the rest I have left over im considering buying a guitar. Im really interested in playing acoustic, as my favorite artist (conor oberst) plays that exclusivly. I see acoustic guitars for sale at the marts, and best buy for around $60. Would those be OK to learn on? I also dont want to invest too much into it incase I dont get the hang of it. While were on the topic, I heard from a few people that if you play video games, you learn guitar easier, because of the hand-eye co-ordination. Myth?

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Re: Learning Guitar [Re: ChopperDave]
    #2011690 - 10/15/03 03:12 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

ehhh, i dunno about that video game deal. if youve played any type of music instrument before it will help you learn because all music is essentially from the same notes. cheap guitars dont sound nearly as good as a more expensive guitar. i wouldnt buy a guitar from any discount store, just go to a music store, they still have cheap ones that sound good. all i can suggest is to practice, practice, and more practice. dont think of it like a chore, just fiddle around with it, and if it sounds good do it. there is no right or wrong in music really, its all subjective.


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Re: Learning Guitar [Re: ChopperDave]
    #2011848 - 10/15/03 04:01 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

I would stay away from the extremely cheap guitars and go for one of the lower end models at a real guitar shop.

That guitar on the infomercial for $99 would probably be ok too. As long as the thing can stay in tune and sounds decent it's all good.

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Re: Learning Guitar [Re: slime_R]
    #2011889 - 10/15/03 04:12 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Yah, if you're worried about not playing it, you probably won't want to play a $60 guitar anyways. Try renting a guitar or maybe borrowing one from a friend. Then, if you want one, they start at around $200 to $250 for something that has properly aligned frets and that you will want to play.

But for sure, it takes a while to get you're fingers strong enough and stuff, but its real fun once you get some chords down.


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Re: Learning Guitar [Re: ChopperDave]
    #2012698 - 10/15/03 08:00 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

I suggest a lower end Yamaha because the neck can be adjusted..
Dont even think about buying one that doesnt have a adjustable neck :crazy: If you do it will be a El Kabong guitar ..
My first real guitar was a Yamahe FG 110 and i had a ball with it.. I strung that bitch every which way including nylons :wink:...I even thought i would be the second coming of Willie Nelson.....Needless to say that didnt happen and i had to go to work the next day :frown:


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Re: Learning Guitar [Re: OldSpice]
    #2013104 - 10/15/03 10:33 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

lern the bass man
its fun


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Re: Learning Guitar [Re: notapillow]
    #2013125 - 10/15/03 10:38 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

i also recommend a cheap yamaha. My buddy picked one up for around 100$ and it plays fairly nice. Make sure you get a steel string. You'll be dissapointed with a classical (nylon string), as the cheap ones are easy to out grow, and the nice ones will run you close to a grand. =O I tought myself how to play guitar and i have been playing close to 9 years now. everytime i pick up my guitar i learn something new. Just open your ears. You'll learn more from making a chord by listening to each note, than by reading one out of a book. Good luck...it is a life long hobby that never gets old.

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Re: Learning Guitar [Re: ]
    #2013325 - 10/15/03 11:40 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

There are plenty of cheap, yet playable acustics out there... if you buy a $60 guitar, you'll get a particle board box and some metal strings that will sound like complete shit... probably prompting you to quit before you start.

A few brands to look for:
Yamaha
Montoya
Fender (or their cheaper line, Squire)
Washburn
Epiphone (made by Gibson)
Dean
Jasmine (made by Takamine)


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Re: Learning Guitar [Re: ChopperDave]
    #2013395 - 10/16/03 12:03 AM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Taking up guitar is probably the best idea of my life so far.
I love guitar.. I love music.

I got a pretty decent Yamaha guitar about 3 years back, with an amp, for free. I still have the same guitar, but I need a new one badly. Come to think of it, I need an acoustic, too. I'm borrowing my friends.

So yes, do it, take up guitar!

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Re: Learning Guitar [Re: notapillow]
    #2013438 - 10/16/03 12:24 AM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

notapillow said:
lern the bass man
its fun




no don't learn the bass, you'll love guitar better trust me. The bass is just to easy to play and is not really a challenge. I have been playing the guitar for about 4 years and im still going strong. In fact I just bought my first Marshall full cabinet which sounds like heaven. All I have to say is just practice you might actually love it.

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Re: Learning Guitar [Re: firstrays]
    #2014628 - 10/16/03 01:04 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

all of these brands suck too... a real guitarist wouldn't recommend someone learns on a shitty guitar. Go to a music store and try out all the guitars in your price range and choose the one that fits you best, the one you're most comfortable with and is the cleanest playing.


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Re: Learning Guitar [Re: ChopperDave]
    #2015348 - 10/16/03 04:05 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

I started the guitar a while ago.  Right now I'm playing an Ibanez acoustic, solid top, and mahogany sides :smile:  A decent guitar for $180.


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Re: Learning Guitar [Re: ChopperDave]
    #2015434 - 10/16/03 04:35 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

I started on guitar originally although I have developed into a bass player over the last year and a half (our band needed a bassist and the other guitarist was way better than me so I became the bass player by default)

I also would reccomend buying a decent instrument, but that doesn't have to mean expensive. My first guitar was given to me by my wife. It is an off-brand, nylon-string, low-end instrument that she got for less than 100 bucks. But she did have the sense to go to a music store to purchase it and ask a few questions. Still to this day I play on it. But now when I am not playing my bass I mostly play my 12-string (Fender acoustic/electric). But anytime I want to work out a song on the guitar I pick up my old beater. By any musicians standards it is not a great instrument but it stays in tune, sounds OK, and it is easy to play. As long as you can get those qualities out of a guitar you shouldn't have any problems.

Also, I hear a lot of people say "do-it-yourself" but I would suggest a beginners guitar class if you have the means. It helped me a lot when I was beginning (I took one at a local community college). Its an easy way to learn basic scales and chords and music theory. And you can also learn a bit about chord structure and how to build chords, depending on the class. Once you have learned those basic skills it is a lot easier to go it alone.

Most of all; just play, play, play! I never thought of it as 'practice'. That just sounds boring. Learn to play songs you like then sit around and jam and have fun. Before you know it you'll be calling yourself a guitarist!


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Re: Learning Guitar [Re: ToTheSummit]
    #2015552 - 10/16/03 05:08 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

adjustable neck! tell em you want one with a truss rod! spend at least 150 bucks and get something that sounds nice! GO to music stores not walmart. Go to vintage guitar shops and talk to the owners they wont push crappy stuff like a music store guy will. No lessons no books no scales. just play it till you rock it! have fun mang instruments are the best investment you will ever make! peace.


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Re: Learning Guitar [Re: simplemachine]
    #2015564 - 10/16/03 05:15 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Osker246 if bass is too easy for you, your not fucking playing it right!!


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Re: Learning Guitar [Re: Osker246]
    #2015583 - 10/16/03 05:22 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)


no don't learn the bass, you'll love guitar better trust me. The bass is just to easy to play and is not really a challenge. I have been playing the guitar for about 4 years and im still going strong. In fact I just bought my first Marshall full cabinet which sounds like heaven. All I have to say is just practice you might actually love it,and im gay 




hey!!!
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Re: Learning Guitar [Re: notapillow]
    #2015640 - 10/16/03 05:39 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Haha sorry pillow I just started to express how I felt about bass. Also Machine how the fuck do you know im not playing it right? Do you know me? Do you know anything about my musical skills? No, so shut the fuck up. Thank you.

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Re: Learning Guitar [Re: Osker246]
    #2018578 - 10/17/03 05:46 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

At 45 am I too old to learn, I would love to play!


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Re: Learning Guitar [Re: Ripple]
    #2018670 - 10/17/03 06:24 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

i thought you have a band ripple


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Re: Learning Guitar [Re: Ripple]
    #2018983 - 10/17/03 08:05 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Ripple you only need a few years to get going. You should get the book "The Complete Blues & Ragtime Guitar Player" and I'll teach you some songs out of it. Right I know some songs you've liked and thats the way to start learning them.

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