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New species??
#2011166 - 10/15/03 12:29 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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ToxicMan
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Re: New species?? [Re: ]
#2011388 - 10/15/03 03:41 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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An interesting specimen, as you said.
One thing you might try (I've seen Orson Miller do this) - if the weather has been dry, sometimes a normally viscid cap can dry out. Try applying a couple drops of water with a fingertip and rubbing a little to see if it becomes viscid.
The spore description certainly points to Pholiota. Of course, a good percentage of Gymnopilus were originally classified as Pholiotas. The two genera intergrade macroscopically, and the smooth spores say you've found one that belongs in Pholiota.
The Pholiotas that would be the most obvious guesses are the species around Pholiota malicola.
I'm working on getting a copy of Smith and Hesler's monograph on Pholiota. I'll let you know when I've got it, then you can remind me of this and I'll tyr to key it out. I understand that we're going to need to know about the cystidia on the gills to be able to ID a Pholiota accurately.
Happy mushrooming!
-------------------- Happy mushrooming!
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Re: New species?? [Re: ToxicMan]
#2012623 - 10/15/03 09:41 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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ToxicMan
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Re: New species?? [Re: ]
#2012695 - 10/15/03 10:00 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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On perusing Hesler's mongoraph on Gymnopilus a bit, it seems that some of them have spores that are roughened by being slightly wrinkled. Is it possible that these spores are only very slightly rough and that you missed the roughness because of that? They certainly do sound like Gymnopilus otherwise.
Happy mushrooming!
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Potentially helpful thread idea. Post links to your favorite online KEYS, monographs, etc |
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An Illustrated Guide to Some Panaeolus Mushroom Species (Summary added 5-12-07) ( 1 2 all ) |
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Gymnopilus monograph |
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Anybody have/know where to get a Panaeolus monograph? |
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07/05/06 03:23 PM by undersativaskies |
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