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um, WTF?? Joker herbal incense??
    #20097879 - 06/07/14 11:07 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

does anybody have any idea what's in this stuff??

i tried it earlier and i tripped the fuck out..the only way i can describe it was it was like "walking through my mind"
It was like a huge workplace with all different types of "department-like" places, and "things at work"

it was very odd and hard to describe


i went through some mental battle and felt like winning was the only way out
it was like i was fighting with some other being or thought (very weird)


sorry, like i said, it's HARD to describe

i'm not sure if you're just supposed to sprinkle a little bit on some ganj, but i smoked a little bong pack of it and went soaring high


any ideas?

pictures were taken from a phone, so sorry about the quality




my vision was kind of going back and forth in a fast fashion...closest thing i can compare it to is salvia (kind of)

afterward, i felt like i really accomplished/overcame something


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    #20097902 - 06/07/14 11:13 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: um, WTF?? Joker herbal incense?? [Re: dr_gonz]
    #20097917 - 06/07/14 11:18 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Could be any of the new gen cannabinoids, or a mix of them.


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Re: um, WTF?? Joker herbal incense?? [Re: dr_gonz]
    #20097918 - 06/07/14 11:18 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

no idea..maybe 30 minutes?..felt like quite some time, though


i've noticed that video was posted a year ago and this says "second generation" on it, so i'm wondering if it's the same stuff

idk how the fuck this guy is functional if it's the same stuff
i had to stumble back to the couch and it took me about 5-10 minutes to get the tv to work (just wanted some background noise)


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    #20097925 - 06/07/14 11:19 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: um, WTF?? Joker herbal incense?? [Re: dr_gonz]
    #20097930 - 06/07/14 11:20 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

HAHAHAHAHAHAAH

no spitting, no.

idk wtf that was about..spitting all over his garage and shit.

guy seems like a tweaker


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Re: um, WTF?? Joker herbal incense?? [Re: shadyy]
    #20097931 - 06/07/14 11:21 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Once you gain a tolerance it's not as amazing :sad: use sparingly to keep dat magika


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Re: um, WTF?? Joker herbal incense?? [Re: shadyy]
    #20097932 - 06/07/14 11:21 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I had some stuff called "Scooby snacks" and I thought my arms were going to fall off for a solid 15 minutes. Never tried anything similar since


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    #20097937 - 06/07/14 11:23 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: um, WTF?? Joker herbal incense?? [Re: goldcaphunter]
    #20097944 - 06/07/14 11:27 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I thought I was the wooden plank off Ed, Edd, & Eddy on this blend called trinity :lol: first time with a synthetic cannabinoid, and took a few big ass hits off this quarter sized resin ball. And then the whole tolerance thing happened :mad2:


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Re: um, WTF?? Joker herbal incense?? [Re: dr_gonz]
    #20097953 - 06/07/14 11:30 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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boner soup said:
HAHAHAHAHAHAAH

no spitting, no.

idk wtf that was about..spitting all over his garage and shit.

guy seems like a tweaker




:lol: :lol:

he probably posts here so I'll be nice.

PS: did you notice there was no actual review of the god damned product? He never even described how he was feeling.  :crankeytom:





LOL, right? it's just him smoking, talking about his bubbler and hocking loogies
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i guess next time i'll try just a little, but i'm kind of hesitant to dive in again any time soon..shit was intense


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Re: um, WTF?? Joker herbal incense?? [Re: shadyy]
    #20098001 - 06/07/14 11:44 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

i love the lable -- " Does not containt AM2201 or any DEA banned substance ". lolwat. it is a wonderful state of affairs when it becomes relevant to display a message of this kind on the front of a packet.

YO DAWG, THERE AINT ANY BANNED SUBSTANCE IN HERE, OKAY? NOPE. NONE.


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Re: um, WTF?? Joker herbal incense?? [Re: Soulidarity] * 1
    #20098012 - 06/07/14 11:47 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

HAHAHAHAHA

and banned is spelled wrong, so it's kind of like..okay?


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Re: um, WTF?? Joker herbal incense?? [Re: shadyy] * 2
    #20098024 - 06/07/14 11:51 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Spice is sketchy


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Re: um, WTF?? Joker herbal incense?? [Re: shadyy]
    #20098061 - 06/08/14 12:02 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

:lol: I wouldn't smoke that, just because I don't want to consume anything made by somebody that can't even spell banned.


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Re: um, WTF?? Joker herbal incense?? [Re: Nitrous Monkey]
    #20098067 - 06/08/14 12:04 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Op if you want to smoke synthetics at least get some pure chem, that has been better established. Then make your own blend.


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Re: um, WTF?? Joker herbal incense?? [Re: shadyy]
    #20098076 - 06/08/14 12:07 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I looked up the kind I tried a few years back White Rabbit.
I found this charming fellow showing us in detail how the effects work.




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Re: um, WTF?? Joker herbal incense?? [Re: Legend]
    #20098085 - 06/08/14 12:09 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

i just wanted to try something new/different...read some reviews on it saying it was good and that ppl would buy it again

nothing about the experience


like i said, it wasn't horrible, but it was really intense and kind of a mind fuck  :mindexpanding:


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Re: um, WTF?? Joker herbal incense?? [Re: Aedan]
    #20098086 - 06/08/14 12:09 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I have purchased 2 blends in the past and both blew my mind!

"Jungle Fever Intense Incense" and "Stoner"

I compare it to smoking quality cannabis for a first timer.. But i also found there is alot of paranoia associated with them in the wrong environment.. They also made blood vessles in my eye burst which was weird.


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Re: um, WTF?? Joker herbal incense?? [Re: Yage]
    #20098087 - 06/08/14 12:10 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I've only smoked synthetic once. I very much enjoyed the experience. The high was strange, my head felt like it was inside a bubble. That is all I can describe it as. The high felt "round" if that makes any sense. :lol:


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Re: um, WTF?? Joker herbal incense?? [Re: Yage]
    #20098097 - 06/08/14 12:14 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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I looked up the kind I tried a few years back White Rabbit.
I found this charming fellow showing us in detail how the effects work.








pahaha omg..i'm glad i didn't go on a coughing spree which led to the need of a puke bucket..: :freshwtf:


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Re: um, WTF?? Joker herbal incense?? [Re: shadyy]
    #20098115 - 06/08/14 12:20 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

A friend let me try some of there's once. To me it just felt like I was really stoned.
She on the other hand after continuous use, started getting really bad headaches from it


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    #20098137 - 06/08/14 12:29 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

About 9 months ago I bought something called 'Pleasure Cruise" from a herb shop. The girl said it was like pot, but supposedly a blend of 5 different natural plants.

I didn't expect to get much from it, so I loaded a bong and smoked it. As soon as I exhaled I felt extremely stoned, then within 60 seconds I began tripping. Not a full on trip, but like the come up of a mushroom trip, all the anxiety knowing you're about to trip and mindfuck/racing thoughts. I quickly took 10mg of valium to bring me down, but by the time the valium kicked in I already had come down. Only lasted about 20 minutes or so.

It was not like smoking weed at all, it was literally like the start of a trip. Wasn't very fun considering I was thinking I would just be getting a bit stoned.


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Re: um, WTF?? Joker herbal incense?? [Re: Bulbasaur]
    #20098139 - 06/08/14 12:30 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

All I remember from it is that it made me feel real bad about my brothers stammer. :psychsplit:


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Re: um, WTF?? Joker herbal incense?? [Re: Nevermind]
    #20098181 - 06/08/14 12:46 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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About 9 months ago I bought something called 'Pleasure Cruise" from a herb shop. The girl said it was like pot, but supposedly a blend of 5 different natural plants.

I didn't expect to get much from it, so I loaded a bong and smoked it. As soon as I exhaled I felt extremely stoned, then within 60 seconds I began tripping. Not a full on trip, but like the come up of a mushroom trip, all the anxiety knowing you're about to trip and mindfuck/racing thoughts. I quickly took 10mg of valium to bring me down, but by the time the valium kicked in I already had come down. Only lasted about 20 minutes or so.

It was not like smoking weed at all, it was literally like the start of a trip. Wasn't very fun considering I was thinking I would just be getting a bit stoned.




dude, it was pretty much like this. i felt the effects as soon as i exhaled, and i was peaking after about 2 minutes.

i would say this was definitely like a trip..not one that i'm very familiar with, but the thoughts and "visions" were definitely different from any weed high

like i said, i felt like i was inside of my mind..it was like a network full of "workers" (just to reiterate)


:trippnballs:


and yeah, i was expecting a slight weed-like buzz, so this kind of threw me over the edge


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Re: um, WTF?? Joker herbal incense?? [Re: Yage]
    #20098195 - 06/08/14 12:50 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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I looked up the kind I tried a few years back White Rabbit.
I found this charming fellow showing us in detail how the effects work.







:lol: Goddamn.....


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Re: um, WTF?? Joker herbal incense?? [Re: shadyy]
    #20098202 - 06/08/14 12:52 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Yes, I know what you mean. I honestly wasn't expecting anything at all, seeing as how I was told it was a legal herbal blend. So to almost immediately start tripping was not exactly pleasant.

I don't know what mine was - I went back to the shop and asked if it contained Salvia and they told me it didn't... so I have no idea.

However, I know they took it off the market for a while and then bought back a new formula, which my friend told me was a lot more relaxing and more like a weed high.


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Re: um, WTF?? Joker herbal incense?? [Re: Nevermind]
    #20098442 - 06/08/14 02:34 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

i just smoked a pinch of it..now it's feeling like a nice strong [weed] high

not as intense as before at all..i think i just smoked too much of it earlier
should have started small  :huxleyfacepalm:

this shit is fucking potent


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Re: um, WTF?? Joker herbal incense?? [Re: shadyy]
    #20098467 - 06/08/14 02:43 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah, whatever I had was the same. If I just smoked a small bit it was sort of like a strong body stone not unlike some strains of weed, although much shorted lasting.

The first time I smoked it though I smoked a massive cone because I didn't think it would do anything.

With these sorts of things it's a 'less is best' sort of situation for sure.


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Re: um, WTF?? Joker herbal incense?? [Re: Nevermind]
    #20098510 - 06/08/14 02:59 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Those youtube reviews were so goddamn inspirational!


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Re: um, WTF?? Joker herbal incense?? [Re: shadyy]
    #20098558 - 06/08/14 03:15 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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boner soup said:
does anybody have any idea what's in this stuff??

i tried it earlier and i tripped the fuck out..the only way i can describe it was it was like "walking through my mind"
It was like a huge workplace with all different types of "department-like" places, and "things at work"

it was very odd and hard to describe


i went through some mental battle and felt like winning was the only way out
it was like i was fighting with some other being or thought (very weird)


sorry, like i said, it's HARD to describe

i'm not sure if you're just supposed to sprinkle a little bit on some ganj, but i smoked a little bong pack of it and went soaring high


any ideas?

pictures were taken from a phone, so sorry about the quality




my vision was kind of going back and forth in a fast fashion...closest thing i can compare it to is salvia (kind of)

afterward, i felt like i really accomplished/overcame something



I wanna try that shit at least once, sounds interesting


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Re: um, WTF?? Joker herbal incense?? [Re: jerseyian]
    #20101464 - 06/08/14 07:45 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I just took a small bong hit and thought about something..


do you think I "overdosed," or do you think that maybe whatever is in this stuff is hallucinogenic at higher doses?

like, if you smoke just a bit, it gives you a weed-like high feeling
but if you smoke enough, you certainly feel as if you're on a +4 trip
(my experiences support this idea)

whatever it is, it definitely has a psychedelic vibe to it (at higher doses)


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Re: um, WTF?? Joker herbal incense?? [Re: shadyy]
    #20101475 - 06/08/14 07:48 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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I just smoked a nice amount and thought about something..


do you think I "overdosed," or do you think that maybe whatever is in this stuff is hallucinogenic at higher doses?

like, if you smoke just a bit, it gives you a weed-like high feeling
but if you smoke enough, you certainly feel as if you're on a +4 trip

whatever it is, it definitely has a psychedelic vibe to it (at higher doses)




I think you're just a noob who can't handle strong noids


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    #20101479 - 06/08/14 07:49 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

All joking aside, it probably has more than synthetic noids if it's making you trip.


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Re: um, WTF?? Joker herbal incense?? [Re: Everlong]
    #20101665 - 06/08/14 08:28 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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All joking aside, it probably has more than synthetic noids if it's making you trip.




Not true.

Full agonist noids can throw even seasoned mj smokers into a very intense high, similar to a trip.

@nevermind, that sounds familiar to my experience with JWH-250. Strong high, more physical effects than regular weed, and very short high. Which was good as it was intense and easily induced anxiety.


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    #20101700 - 06/08/14 08:34 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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All joking aside, it probably has more than synthetic noids if it's making you trip.




Not true.

Full agonist noids can throw even seasoned mj smokers into a very intense high, similar to a trip.

@nevermind, that sounds familiar to my experience with JWH-250. Strong high, more physical effects than regular weed, and very short high. Which was good as it was intense and easily induced anxiety.



Funny, I've never experienced true classical hallucinations from any synthetic cannabinoid and I was a huge user and proponent of them. If I overdid it at all (and I'm talking like when I didn't have any for days, and a new package would arrive) the worst that happened was a slight panic attack. Never tripped.

Then again, I wasn't smoking random gas station blends with who knows what in it, I was buying the individual compounds myself.

This thread reminds me of people who have never smoked weed before "tripping" their first time getting high.


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Re: um, WTF?? Joker herbal incense?? [Re: Everlong]
    #20101779 - 06/08/14 08:49 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

ive always lol'd at the dummies who do spice/synthetic weed...WHATS THE MATTER?CANT FIND ANY BUD?:stoner::smug:


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Re: um, WTF?? Joker herbal incense?? [Re: Everlong]
    #20101780 - 06/08/14 08:50 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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All joking aside, it probably has more than synthetic noids if it's making you trip.



AM-2201 is the strongest hallucinogen in extreme dosages like 20mg no lie

@OP yeah its much trippier than marijuana just treat it as trip not as a weed substitute


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    #20101783 - 06/08/14 08:50 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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ive always lol'd at the dummies who do spice/synthetic weed...WHATS THE MATTER?CANT FIND ANY BUD?:stoner::smug:



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    #20101811 - 06/08/14 08:54 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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This thread reminds me of people who have never smoked weed before "tripping" their first time getting high.




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Re: um, WTF?? Joker herbal incense?? [Re: spixce]
    #20101818 - 06/08/14 08:55 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

too me synth noids dont make much sense unless someone cant find weed, or get tested for weed.

I've dabbled, but the high always felt toxic, and the idea that current noids could be toxic like ur-144 makes me a bit paranoid.

Plus they taste like garbage, unlike tasty weed.


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    #20101824 - 06/08/14 08:57 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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too me synth noids dont make much sense unless someone cant find weed, or get tested for weed.

I've dabbled, but the high always felt toxic, and the idea that current noids could be toxic like ur-144 makes me a bit paranoid.

Plus they taste like garbage, unlike tasty weed.




I just prefer the high but you're right about the taste :lol:


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    #20101827 - 06/08/14 08:58 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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All joking aside, it probably has more than synthetic noids if it's making you trip.




Not true.

Full agonist noids can throw even seasoned mj smokers into a very intense high, similar to a trip.

@nevermind, that sounds familiar to my experience with JWH-250. Strong high, more physical effects than regular weed, and very short high. Which was good as it was intense and easily induced anxiety.





I bought mine from a place called the "Happy Herb Shop" (Australia), and they only seem to sell natural extracts. They did sell JWH-018 when it was legal, and I tried that, which was just like normal weed really. So I suppose it could've been something synthetic this time as well.


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Re: um, WTF?? Joker herbal incense?? [Re: Nevermind]
    #20101843 - 06/08/14 09:03 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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ive always lol'd at the dummies who do spice/synthetic weed...WHATS THE MATTER?CANT FIND ANY BUD?:stoner::smug:



No, when I smoked synthetic noids I could of bought weed the entire time.

I liked getting more high than possible with weed, being able to pass piss tests, and paying 1/10th of the price. It was a win-win situation for myself.

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All joking aside, it probably has more than synthetic noids if it's making you trip.



AM-2201 is the strongest hallucinogen in extreme dosages like 20mg no lie





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Re: um, WTF?? Joker herbal incense?? [Re: Everlong]
    #20101857 - 06/08/14 09:06 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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ive always lol'd at the dummies who do spice/synthetic weed...WHATS THE MATTER?CANT FIND ANY BUD?:stoner::smug:



No, when I smoked synthetic noids I could of bought weed the entire time.

I liked getting more high than possible with weed, being able to pass piss tests, and paying 1/10th of the price. It was a win-win situation for myself.

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All joking aside, it probably has more than synthetic noids if it's making you trip.



AM-2201 is the strongest hallucinogen in extreme dosages like 20mg no lie





I've done large doses of AM2201 and I never tripped.



Amen to the price and you probably have a high natural tolerance 3mg of am-2201 and i was having a horrible trip


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Re: um, WTF?? Joker herbal incense?? [Re: Everlong]
    #20101878 - 06/08/14 09:14 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

youre saying spice is better than weed?:whatnonono::justno:


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Re: um, WTF?? Joker herbal incense?? [Re: Doctor Sponge]
    #20101921 - 06/08/14 09:26 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

and 1/10 the price my fucking ass..2 grams of spice is like $15 at a smoke shop..i just picked up a fat half O of good midskis for $35
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    #20101926 - 06/08/14 09:27 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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youre saying spice is better than weed?:whatnonono::justno:



First, stop calling it spice. Spice is DMT.

Secondly, you can achieve a greater high using synthetic full agonist cannabinoids. This is indisputable. Some don't find it pleasurable, but I did and used assorted noids for three or so years.

I liked it better, and I was already a hardcore stoner for years before switching.

The only reason I quit was because it was becoming harder to obtain, drug tests started to adapt, and I wasn't getting high from regular marijuana anymore.


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Re: um, WTF?? Joker herbal incense?? [Re: Doctor Sponge]
    #20101931 - 06/08/14 09:29 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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and 1/10 the price my fucking ass..2 grams of spice is like $15 at a smoke shop..i just picked up a fat half O of good midskis for $35
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premade blends are a rip though.

Buy the actual chemical, cheaper, and likely higher quality, And it isnt a mystery bag of chems.


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    #20101932 - 06/08/14 09:29 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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and 1/10 the price my fucking ass..2 grams of spice is like $15 at a smoke shop..i just picked up a fat half O of good midskis for $35
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I don't care how much it costs in a gas station, I never wasted my money that route. I ordered the chemicals myself online.

In bulk orders, I was getting JWH-018 at $2 a gram. People would use a gram for an ounce of smoking blend.

You clearly don't know what you are talking about.

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Re: um, WTF?? Joker herbal incense?? [Re: Everlong]
    #20101955 - 06/08/14 09:36 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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and 1/10 the price my fucking ass..2 grams of spice is like $15 at a smoke shop..i just picked up a fat half O of good midskis for $35
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I don't care how much it costs in a gas station, I never wasted my money that route. I ordered the chemicals myself online.

In bulk orders, I was getting JWH-018 at $2 a gram. People would use a gram for an ounce of smoking blend.

You clearly don't know what you are talking about.

Also, mids suck.



I do know what im talking about.ive tried UR-144,jwh-018 and they suck..if you like being super anxious with a dizzy high that last 10 minutes then I guess its for you..or if you like spraying various herbs with chemicals then go for it...go natural man,if you cant get high off weed then you have a serious problem and need to take a tolerance break(never had to take one and ive smoked daily since '95)

and btw my mids don't suck,im a veteran of the PYD thread..at least my mids have taste:haha:


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Re: um, WTF?? Joker herbal incense?? [Re: Doctor Sponge] * 1
    #20101982 - 06/08/14 09:44 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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I do know what im talking about.ive tried UR-144,jwh-018 and they suck..if you like being super anxious with a dizzy high that last 10 minutes then I guess its for you..or if you like spraying various herbs with chemicals then go for it...



I'm sorry they made you feel super anxious and dizzy. I can say I never felt dizzy from any cannabinoid in my life, well besides when I'm drunk. :lol:

The only time they made me feel anxious is when I dosed incredibly high after a slight tolerance break (aka running out and waiting on the mailman), but I would just lay down and nap it off.

10 minutes? I'd say it was more like 30, but that was my only real complaint about them.

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go natural man,if you cant get high off weed then you have a serious problem and need to take a tolerance break(never had to take one and ive smoked daily since '95)



Which is one of the reasons I previously explained for quitting them. I took a few month break from everything and got super stoned from weed again.

You've never taken a tolerance break from weed? I find that strange. I have to do it every blue moon because I end up requiring too much weed for such a diminished high. Hell, I can quickly build up a tolerance to the point where I can smoke an eighth of medicinal quality weed in a day. It's not hard.

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and btw my mids don't suck,im a veteran of the PYD thread..at least my mids have taste:haha:




I don't care if you are the psychedelic pope of the shroomery, mids still suck.


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Re: um, WTF?? Joker herbal incense?? [Re: Everlong]
    #20102002 - 06/08/14 09:52 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

id rather have mids any day over your spice:rolleyes:

and why don't you take a look at my mids in the PYD thread:smug:


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    #20102018 - 06/08/14 09:54 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

but wow an 8th of medical grade and no high?...im done :nomoreinternet:


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    #20102077 - 06/08/14 10:09 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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id rather have mids any day over your spice:rolleyes:

and why don't you take a look at my mids in the PYD thread:smug:




To each their own. However, I find your "elitist" attitude to be ironic considering no matter how good of weed you will smoke, you will never reach the same plateau of the synthetic noids. Full (synthetics) vs partial(THC), there is no arguing about it.

I don't really care enough to go to the post your drugs thread. I've clicked that thread maybe twice in the entire time I've had an account here.


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Re: um, WTF?? Joker herbal incense?? [Re: Everlong]
    #20102103 - 06/08/14 10:16 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Back in high school and a little after I was smoking a bag of day rotating between scooby snacks and joker and another one I cannot remember. Be careful that shit'll mess you up if you're not careful


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Re: um, WTF?? Joker herbal incense?? [Re: Everlong]
    #20102258 - 06/08/14 10:52 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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First, stop calling it spice. Spice is DMT.

Secondly, you can achieve a greater high using synthetic full agonist cannabinoids. This is indisputable. Some don't find it pleasurable, but I did and used assorted noids for three or so years.

I liked it better, and I was already a hardcore stoner for years before switching.

The only reason I quit was because it was becoming harder to obtain, drug tests started to adapt, and I wasn't getting high from regular marijuana anymore.




Spice has become synonymous with random synthetic cannabinoid laced herbal blends found at gas stations/liquor stores etc. Originating from the brand name "Spice", one of the most popular ones.

Also considering the short history of use the safety profile of synthetic cannabinoids have not been established. People have had seizures / cardiac arrest / died from it. You are really risking it ingesting that shit like all research chemicals.


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    #20102380 - 06/08/14 11:30 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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First, stop calling it spice. Spice is DMT.

Secondly, you can achieve a greater high using synthetic full agonist cannabinoids. This is indisputable. Some don't find it pleasurable, but I did and used assorted noids for three or so years.

I liked it better, and I was already a hardcore stoner for years before switching.

The only reason I quit was because it was becoming harder to obtain, drug tests started to adapt, and I wasn't getting high from regular marijuana anymore.




Spice has become synonymous with random synthetic cannabinoid laced herbal blends found at gas stations/liquor stores etc. Originating from the brand name "Spice", one of the most popular ones.

Also considering the short history of use the safety profile of synthetic cannabinoids have not been established. People have had seizures / cardiac arrest / died from it. You are really risking it ingesting that shit like all research chemicals.



The brand spice :inlove3:

But yeah this shit is cheaper and stronger than marijuana at the stores here you get 4gs for 12 bucks weed is 20 a gram


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Re: um, WTF?? Joker herbal incense?? [Re: Aedan]
    #20102398 - 06/08/14 11:35 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Spice has become synonymous with random synthetic cannabinoid laced herbal blends found at gas stations/liquor stores etc. Originating from the brand name "Spice", one of the most popular ones.




I know the origins of calling it spice. Why the hell do you think that company chose that specific name?

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Also considering the short history of use the safety profile of synthetic cannabinoids have not been established. People have had seizures / cardiac arrest / died from it. You are really risking it ingesting that shit like all research chemicals.




I've watch people have seizures from marijuana, it's no surprise it can't happen with a stronger noid. Fuck, there's been people who have had a heart attack from weed.

I took my risks with no qualms because of the overall safety profile of cannabinoids. I never had any complications or died, and I might of been one of the biggest users there was (Plus I was abusing RC stims heavily during that time frame too). I pity anyone who actually had a serious negative health impact from using any RCs, because for the short term I walked away without any scratches.


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Re: um, WTF?? Joker herbal incense?? [Re: Everlong]
    #20102506 - 06/09/14 12:00 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Then why would you be concerned with someone calling it spice considering the etymology of the term. I also do not think it has any relation to dmt.

There is no "overall safety profile" of any class of drugs. I would be more concerned with long term physical and psychological health risks than the acute effects. Being full agonists they can disrupt the endocannabinoid system and have potentially toxic effects.

There was one case of a 17 year old girl having multiple strokes and subsequently left blind, brain damaged and paralyzed after using spice for 2 weeks. You dont hear that happening with regular cannabis.


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Re: um, WTF?? Joker herbal incense?? [Re: Aedan]
    #20102545 - 06/09/14 12:12 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

to be straight up..i used synthetics for a few months a few years back (when it was readily available)

i couldn't smoke for work, so i went with that stuff..
i've never experienced something like I have with this one, and i've noticed no negative effects from prior use

everybody's different, yeah. but i think there's a little more to those stories


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    #20102589 - 06/09/14 12:24 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Well once they banned the common synthetics the market produced more strange and novel compounds with less predictable effects.


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Re: um, WTF?? Joker herbal incense?? [Re: shadyy]
    #20102594 - 06/09/14 12:26 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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boner soup said:
does anybody have any idea what's in this stuff??

i tried it earlier and i tripped the fuck out..the only way i can describe it was it was like "walking through my mind"
It was like a huge workplace with all different types of "department-like" places, and "things at work"

it was very odd and hard to describe


i went through some mental battle and felt like winning was the only way out
it was like i was fighting with some other being or thought (very weird)


sorry, like i said, it's HARD to describe

i'm not sure if you're just supposed to sprinkle a little bit on some ganj, but i smoked a little bong pack of it and went soaring high


any ideas?

pictures were taken from a phone, so sorry about the quality




my vision was kind of going back and forth in a fast fashion...closest thing i can compare it to is salvia (kind of)

afterward, i felt like i really accomplished/overcame something




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    #20102605 - 06/09/14 12:31 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I personally have a little bias against them because my brother was hooked on it and would literally have panic attacks if he didn't smoke it. It was really fucking him up. He had to go to rehab for a few weeks to get off it.


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    #20102673 - 06/09/14 12:53 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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I wanna try that shit at least once, sounds interesting




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    #20104285 - 06/09/14 11:50 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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I personally have a little bias against them because my brother was hooked on it and would literally have panic attacks if he didn't smoke it. It was really fucking him up. He had to go to rehab for a few weeks to get off it.



I personally have a little bias towards them because it was a great marijuana replacement for me, even better in some areas.

The only time I ever had a panic attack was when I did too much after not having any for a couple days. I would simply lay down and take a nap, wake back up and be fine.

I went from heavy use for 2-3 years to cold turkey, and I had no worse of withdrawals than I get from weed. Just couldn't sleep and no appetite.


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Re: um, WTF?? Joker herbal incense?? [Re: Doctor Sponge]
    #20104312 - 06/09/14 11:57 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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id rather have mids any day over your spice:rolleyes:

and why don't you take a look at my mids in the PYD thread:smug:





I'd rather have weed than synth noids as well.

But I checked out your weed, and I'd smoke it, but I wouldnt want to pay money for it.


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Re: um, WTF?? Joker herbal incense?? [Re: EdibleStereos]
    #20106266 - 06/09/14 07:27 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Those news stories are lies or exaggerations I'ma make one right now here it is

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Billy was a good clean christian boy that was on the a honor roll but then the junkies made him smoke spice and he got hooked and eventually had a stroke now he's paralyzed remember one hit and you can be hooked




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    #20106554 - 06/09/14 08:07 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

My girlfriend rarely ever smokes the ganj with me anymore because it gives her anxiety. She tried "spice" at one point and it gave her a panic attack, and now she gets them from cannabis too. I think their is a direct link as she use to smoke all the time with no problems. Also her dad smokes mad spice and is clearly fucked in the head, though that could be from other things as well. He still smokes cannabis too when he can though.

I have to agree about the natural> synthetic too. If they work for you, well good for you, but better hope you don't see any long term damage. I for one would rather not risk it, maybe when there is more long term research done but even then it seems pointless to me. Yes cannabis can be expensive in some places but it is a plant. Grow it yourself and make a profit off of it. That's way better than buying lab made chemicals over the internet or from head shops.


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    #20106692 - 06/09/14 08:36 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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My girlfriend rarely ever smokes the ganj with me anymore because it gives her anxiety. She tried "spice" at one point and it gave her a panic attack, and now she gets them from cannabis too. I think their is a direct link as she use to smoke all the time with no problems. Also her dad smokes mad spice and is clearly fucked in the head, though that could be from other things as well. He still smokes cannabis too when he can though.

I have to agree about the natural> synthetic too. If they work for you, well good for you, but better hope you don't see any long term damage. I for one would rather not risk it, maybe when there is more long term research done but even then it seems pointless to me. Yes cannabis can be expensive in some places but it is a plant. Grow it yourself and make a profit off of it. That's way better than buying lab made chemicals over the internet or from head shops.



Marijuana makes me overthink what people are thinking like i say something and i think "why did you just say that shut up loser"

Spice doesn't do that to me been smoking it for years and i never had a heart attack i did have some panic attacks from overdoses but that's it i had some mild withdrawals the same ones i had with pot like no appetite and insomnia but i did not have anger like i get with marijuana

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Re: um, WTF?? Joker herbal incense?? [Re: shadyy]
    #20113436 - 06/11/14 10:43 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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I just took a small bong hit and thought about something..


do you think I "overdosed," or do you think that maybe whatever is in this stuff is hallucinogenic at higher doses?

like, if you smoke just a bit, it gives you a weed-like high feeling
but if you smoke enough, you certainly feel as if you're on a +4 trip
(my experiences support this idea)

whatever it is, it definitely has a psychedelic vibe to it (at higher doses)



sweet  can u get that shit at head shops?


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Re: um, WTF?? Joker herbal incense?? [Re: jerseyian]
    #20113445 - 06/11/14 10:48 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

i told you to shoot me a :pm: if you're interested, ya dunce


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Re: um, WTF?? Joker herbal incense?? [Re: shadyy]
    #20113563 - 06/11/14 11:34 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

:lol:


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Re: um, WTF?? Joker herbal incense?? [Re: shadyy]
    #20127368 - 06/14/14 05:10 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

LOL...ok    didn't see that Boner...:shocked:


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Re: um, WTF?? Joker herbal incense?? [Re: jerseyian]
    #20127461 - 06/14/14 06:14 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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boner soup said:
I just took a small bong hit and thought about something..


do you think I "overdosed," or do you think that maybe whatever is in this stuff is hallucinogenic at higher doses?

like, if you smoke just a bit, it gives you a weed-like high feeling
but if you smoke enough, you certainly feel as if you're on a +4 trip
(my experiences support this idea)

whatever it is, it definitely has a psychedelic vibe to it (at higher doses)





Yes that would be an 'OD' be careful with em. Most of these blends are made far too potent so just a pinch gets
the job done. That's why i prefer to make my own, that way i can make it weak, and smoke it like weed.

(when i did use it) i stopped because it was causing mad addiction, and health problems.


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Re: um, WTF?? Joker herbal incense?? [Re: Nitrous Monkey]
    #20127506 - 06/14/14 07:07 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I smoked cloud 9 off a bong with a torch. I suffered a heart attack. Doctor told me if I would have inhaled more/taken another hit I would have died. I also caused permenant heart damage.


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Re: um, WTF?? Joker herbal incense?? [Re: pookiepower]
    #20127899 - 06/14/14 09:44 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

DAMN  sounds like you have my kind of luck...i almost died 8 damn times...and i dont mean kind of i mean knockin on heavens door almost dead... Thank god ur alive/WE r alive...


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Re: um, WTF?? Joker herbal incense?? [Re: Legend]
    #20127935 - 06/14/14 09:49 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Quote:

boner soup said:
I just took a small bong hit and thought about something..


do you think I "overdosed," or do you think that maybe whatever is in this stuff is hallucinogenic at higher doses?

like, if you smoke just a bit, it gives you a weed-like high feeling
but if you smoke enough, you certainly feel as if you're on a +4 trip
(my experiences support this idea)

whatever it is, it definitely has a psychedelic vibe to it (at higher doses)





Yes that would be an 'OD' be careful with em. Most of these blends are made far too potent so just a pinch gets
the job done. That's why i prefer to make my own, that way i can make it weak, and smoke it like weed.

(when i did use it) i stopped because it was causing mad addiction, and health problems.



Hey bro..what kind of health problems? N thats exactly.what I do with really strong weed  i cut it with dirt weed so i dont get so wacked and or noid.. I dont have a huge tolerance even though i smoke often but if the herb is too strong i get anxious and shit which defeats the purpose of getting high...


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Re: um, WTF?? Joker herbal incense?? [Re: jerseyian]
    #20128020 - 06/14/14 10:00 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

i ordered a gram of jwh-018 when it was legal. i think i smoked half of it. stuff just gets me too high. i'm not much of a smoker anyway.


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Re: um, WTF?? Joker herbal incense?? [Re: jerseyian]
    #20128196 - 06/14/14 11:23 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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jerseyian said:
Quote:

Legend said:
Quote:

boner soup said:
I just took a small bong hit and thought about something..


do you think I "overdosed," or do you think that maybe whatever is in this stuff is hallucinogenic at higher doses?

like, if you smoke just a bit, it gives you a weed-like high feeling
but if you smoke enough, you certainly feel as if you're on a +4 trip
(my experiences support this idea)

whatever it is, it definitely has a psychedelic vibe to it (at higher doses)





Yes that would be an 'OD' be careful with em. Most of these blends are made far too potent so just a pinch gets
the job done. That's why i prefer to make my own, that way i can make it weak, and smoke it like weed.

(when i did use it) i stopped because it was causing mad addiction, and health problems.



Hey bro..what kind of health problems? N thats exactly.what I do with really strong weed  i cut it with dirt weed so i dont get so wacked and or noid.. I dont have a huge tolerance even though i smoke often but if the herb is too strong i get anxious and shit which defeats the purpose of getting high...




yeah, i'm kinda interested to hear about the "health problems" you experienced

i didn't quote health problems to try to dispute it, it's just very vague lol



the only thing that kind of throws me away from the whole od idea is that i guess i kind of associate a negative experience with an od, ya know?
but this wasn't negative at all..it was definitely overwhelming (at least in the beginning) due to it being so unexpected, but that's about it

like i said, it was practically a short "trip"


side note - my cardiovascular system appeared to be unaffected (no chest pain/tightness, no noticeable/alarming increase in heart rate, etc.)
never experienced any fear or anything like that either - didn't feel in danger


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Re: um, WTF?? Joker herbal incense?? [Re: shadyy]
    #20128205 - 06/14/14 11:26 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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boner soup said:
Quote:

jerseyian said:
Quote:

Legend said:
Quote:

boner soup said:
I just took a small bong hit and thought about something..


do you think I "overdosed," or do you think that maybe whatever is in this stuff is hallucinogenic at higher doses?

like, if you smoke just a bit, it gives you a weed-like high feeling
but if you smoke enough, you certainly feel as if you're on a +4 trip
(my experiences support this idea)

whatever it is, it definitely has a psychedelic vibe to it (at higher doses)





Yes that would be an 'OD' be careful with em. Most of these blends are made far too potent so just a pinch gets
the job done. That's why i prefer to make my own, that way i can make it weak, and smoke it like weed.

(when i did use it) i stopped because it was causing mad addiction, and health problems.



Hey bro..what kind of health problems? N thats exactly.what I do with really strong weed  i cut it with dirt weed so i dont get so wacked and or noid.. I dont have a huge tolerance even though i smoke often but if the herb is too strong i get anxious and shit which defeats the purpose of getting high...




yeah, i'm kinda interested to hear about the "health problems" you experienced

i didn't quote health problems to try to dispute it, it's just very vague lol



the only thing that kind of throws me away from the whole od idea is that i guess i kind of associate a negative experience with an od, ya know?
but this wasn't negative at all..it was definitely overwhelming (at least in the beginning) due to it being so unexpected, but that's about it

like i said, it was practically a short "trip"


side note - my cardiovascular system appeared to be unaffected (no chest pain/tightness, no noticeable/alarming increase in heart rate, etc.)
never experienced any fear or anything like that either - didn't feel in danger





Are you guys discussing jwh-018 specifically or synth noids in general?

Ur-144 has for sure shown kidney damage.

Havent heard that from -018 though.


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Re: um, WTF?? Joker herbal incense?? [Re: EdibleStereos]
    #20128277 - 06/14/14 11:53 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

i don't think that's actually been proven, right??

here's an interesting read regarding toxicology (referring to XLR-11, AM2201, and UR-144)- http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm6206a1.htm

still nothing conclusive


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Re: um, WTF?? Joker herbal incense?? [Re: EdibleStereos]
    #20128287 - 06/14/14 11:55 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

5f-ur-144 aka XLR-11 causes kidney damage not regular ur-144


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Re: um, WTF?? Joker herbal incense?? [Re: spixce]
    #20128314 - 06/14/14 12:05 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Looks like I was confused with 5f-ur-144 and ur-144.

So from what I'm gathering from that article is that poorly synthed noids and byproducts are to blame, and not so much the actual compounds themselves, unless they are fluoridated?


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Re: um, WTF?? Joker herbal incense?? [Re: shadyy]
    #20128317 - 06/14/14 12:06 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

HEY EVERYONE DID U KNOW BONER SOUP SMOKES JOKER HERBAL INCENSE? HAHAHHAHAHAHA WTF


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Re: um, WTF?? Joker herbal incense?? [Re: Sheekle]
    #20128326 - 06/14/14 12:10 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Do some research.

It's some kind of synthnoid. What you described sounds like every other synthnoid.


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    #20128532 - 06/14/14 01:12 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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HEY EVERYONE DID U KNOW BONER SOUP SMOKES JOKER HERBAL INCENSE? HAHAHHAHAHAHA WTF



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