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N,N-dimethyltryptamine
    #2009348 - 10/14/03 09:17 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Hello,

Has any one ever had the pleasure of experiencing N-N-dimethyltryptamine? ...please tell me all details, such as whether it was smoked, ingested using MAOIs and probably in the form of ayahuasca, etc.

I am most curious about possible contact with intelligent beings and any out-of-body occurences.

Thanks,

ergot


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Re: N,N-dimethyltryptamine [Re: ergot]
    #2009377 - 10/14/03 09:26 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

wow,

I have never tried it yet. but thats what I am waiting for too. :smile:



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Re: N,N-dimethyltryptamine [Re: ergot]
    #2009413 - 10/14/03 09:37 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

I usually smoke it... in a lightbulb... it makes me trip... I like to vist the elves... how about you???


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Re: N,N-dimethyltryptamine [Re: John]
    #2009474 - 10/14/03 09:59 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

I concur. Though I prefer ayahuasca.

The contact isn't only "possible" it's downright fucking likely. Words fail in every way to describe this experience, be like Nike and just do it.


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Re: N,N-dimethyltryptamine [Re: DiMiTriSouljah]
    #2009509 - 10/14/03 10:11 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

i really want to try dmt, i know it will blow me away, but psychedelics are amazing and im sure dmt will not let me down, one of these days ill probaly do a mhrb extraction, but for now i read up, i bought dmt, spirit molecule, interesting book, id recomend it, gives good insight to the whole thing.although ayahusasca would be more possible to do, id like to hear of some aya' reports.


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Re: N,N-dimethyltryptamine [Re: dibbles]
    #2009521 - 10/14/03 10:16 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

You die.  You experience eternity.  I'm sure you're curious for more details as it's human nature to do such...but I'm afraid any words I can offer you will seem bland and formless (hehe, you fellow ayahuasceros know what I'm saying).  You can't paint the picture without partaking of the spice.  :grin:


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Re: N,N-dimethyltryptamine [Re: DiMiTriSouljah]
    #2009534 - 10/14/03 10:22 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Words fail in every way to describe this experience, be like Nike and just do it.




Quote:

but I'm afraid any words I can offer you will seem bland and formless (hehe, you fellow ayahuasceros know what I'm saying). You can't paint the picture without partaking of the spice




Yeah that's why I gave such a bland anwser.


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Re: N,N-dimethyltryptamine [Re: DiMiTriSouljah]
    #2009635 - 10/14/03 10:50 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

I prefer smoked dmt over ayahuasca. 4 hour dmt flash is just a little to long for my liking :smile: I like the super galatic express shuttle through the cosmos. DMT experience is unexplainable to those who have not experienced it before, all i can suggest is to try some for yourself. meet the elves, talk their language, they are your friends 


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Re: N,N-dimethyltryptamine [Re: Infrared]
    #2009679 - 10/14/03 11:01 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Congratulations on becoming a mod, DeepBlue42!

Hehe, I like to stay as long as I possibly can.  Although it's kind of inconsequential considering you break through the time barrier when you're taking off anyway.  The qualitative difference (other than duration) is a strange one, kind of hard to put your finger on, really.  I think B. caapi does more for the brew than just inhibit monoamine oxidase, which may be why ayahuasca is my preference.  Not to mention I love the purge (may sound odd, but give it a whirl all you non-believers!).  :grin:


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Re: N,N-dimethyltryptamine [Re: DiMiTriSouljah]
    #2009687 - 10/14/03 11:05 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

yea, the maoi definately adds a lot to the ayahuasca experience, no doubt about that. I kinda like harmaline alone though :smile: ive just personally grown to like freebase dmt better. they are both way different experiences and each have their place.


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Re: N,N-dimethyltryptamine [Re: Infrared]
    #2009709 - 10/14/03 11:11 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

"they are both way different experiences and each have their place."

I completely agree.


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Re: N,N-dimethyltryptamine [Re: Infrared]
    #2009723 - 10/14/03 11:15 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

I wish I was fortunate to come across some freebase DMT.....lol an experience like that I could go for.


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Re: N,N-dimethyltryptamine [Re: Infrared]
    #2009743 - 10/14/03 11:21 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

yes DMT is like being launched to another dimention only in this new place youve arrived 1+1=what there no 1+1 huh wtf?a whole other language and its impossilble to understand while your there.

oh and i dont like the little elves sense of humor


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Re: N,N-dimethyltryptamine [Re: buckwheat]
    #2009989 - 10/15/03 12:05 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

B. caapi was at first thought to have an ingredient named "telepathine" that was believed to have telepathic ability, until they realized it was simply MAOI alkaloids harmaline, etc. So, dmitrisouljah, it may truly add something special to the brew. My main wonder is, it is any more likely to meet the elves (other entities) on freebase or ayahuasca? Ayahuasca is a much more simple concoction compared to extraction of the alkaloid N,N-DMT for freebase use, but I will do whatever it takes simply to try and make contact. Also, if both do offer contact, will one allow for longer "conversation" and duration (I know freebase is shorter time for the influence of the chemical, but with DMT, time doesn't matter in the usual sense!).

Thanks,

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Re: N,N-dimethyltryptamine [Re: ergot]
    #2010206 - 10/15/03 01:31 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah, Terrence McKenna has some very interesting views on the telepathic (not in the traditional sense) effects of ayahuasca. He talks about human communication and how we try to get our points across by using small mouth noises that are picked up by our ears and filtered through our own personal dictionaries of words, resulting in a new bias of what the original message was. He says (and I agree) that ayahuasca allows one to "talk with pictures"...the phenomenon is hard to explain to someone who hasn't experienced it. Music paints a picture, and it's anything but random.

You will meet the elves if you do an adequate dose of either freebase N,N-DMT or ayahuasca. Don't worry about the conversation part for now, you're getting ahead of yourself...they'll show you what you need to know when you get there.


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Re: N,N-dimethyltryptamine [Re: ]
    #2010664 - 10/15/03 05:12 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

"thats what I am waiting for too."

You can't really just "wait" for it.... :wink:

rarely will it simply appear in your living-room.

I've tried it a few times, a couple times as an ayahuasca brew and a couple more times smoked pure chem.

as for alien contact.. I didn't see any other life-forms (saw plenty of stuff, but no elves or aliens), but while on the stuff I was convinced that there was a "presence" of some type around me. Looking back though its hard to say. Maybe next time I'll go more in that direction.. maybe lol

That shit is perplexing beyond all belief


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Re: N,N-dimethyltryptamine [Re: Strumpling]
    #2010810 - 10/15/03 07:02 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)



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Re: N,N-dimethyltryptamine [Re: ergot]
    #2010923 - 10/15/03 09:25 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

I remember one of my first times smoking it I took in my dose and saw what Terrence may have called the cresanthemum pattern, it was circular, and made up of colorfull lines(which are themselves made of colorfull squigly lines) and it's a very complex, perfectly semetrical piece of art that I couldnt draw if I tried, and I wonder if I was the only one to see it this way? Then I remembered, from doing ayahuasca, that I can project forward into my visions, so I did just that. As I was projecting forward there was a focus point in the middle of my vision, and once it came to a stop it immediately uncrumpled like a piece of paper and it turned in to the silloette(sp?) of the mountains, and suddenly the dessert ground rolled out toward me, and all the stars come out too...Then the silloette of the mountains turned into a bridge and there were like 4 or 5 elven creatures walking under it. then I opened my eyes.

I've seen the elven factories a few times, the first time i glimpsed  i was on 4g mushrooms, then I smoked the D,  i wasnt completely "there," so the colors were more on the darker side(green, blue, purple, black, shiney white always seems to fit in there too :tongue:) but I could tell there were many of them there working on individual tasks, all the same task, they were working on green/black energy line things.

The second time I saw them was more clear. I was on a mountain in boulder at night. I smokied it hoping I would enter the collective conciousness again, but i lost consentration on my last toke. I was still focused enough to watch my perspective come to this factory, where everyone and everything is black / yellow, and they were all once again working on energy beams of some sort..

This is weird, because once when I smoked it I watched as my perspective turned into a beam and expanded untill it was one with everything, all my questions were answered in complete bliss..but I wonder if these beams the elves work on are what I think they could be?


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Re: N,N-dimethyltryptamine [Re: Infrared]
    #2011115 - 10/15/03 12:05 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

How does one aqcuire freebase DMT? I'd really like to try it, but I'm not really looking forward to drinking a nasty tasting concoction of plant matter. Do you extract it or what?


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Re: N,N-dimethyltryptamine [Re: ChiefThunderbong]
    #2011251 - 10/15/03 01:20 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah -- it's illegal if it's sold in a purified form so you have to get it from a plant source. You could do a simple methanol extraction and down it, or extract with acetic acid + precipitate by adding NaOH.

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