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most overrated bands\artists of all time.
    #2008429 - 10/14/03 03:52 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

ones that alot of people like, but i think totally blow. my list is:

1. kiss
2. van halen
3. rush
4. aerosmith
5. billy joel
6. bruce springsteen
7. the who


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Re: most overrated bands\artists of all time. [Re: ]
    #2008466 - 10/14/03 04:07 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

MJ


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Re: most overrated bands\artists of all time. [Re: Strumpling]
    #2008554 - 10/14/03 04:42 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

michael jackson?


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Re: most overrated bands\artists of all time. [Re: ]
    #2008579 - 10/14/03 04:50 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah, look what he started.....

king of pop.. rawr!


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Re: most overrated bands\artists of all time. [Re: ]
    #2008892 - 10/14/03 06:20 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Oh my god mushmaster. I agree with every band you listed there. Especially Kiss. They apear to me as money grubbers, just out for fame, fortune and women. Also so many people say Eddie van Halen is the greatest guitar player ever, I just don't get it. He seems too goofy and his playing just don't move at all.
A few other bands I could add to that list are.
Lenny Kravits ( seems like he learned to play from a text book, just has
no originality at all, he's all about image)
Creed ( I just wanna gag when I hear this)


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Re: most overrated bands\artists of all time. [Re: ]
    #2008935 - 10/14/03 06:32 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

nirvana.

hendrix.


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Re: most overrated bands\artists of all time. [Re: ]
    #2008940 - 10/14/03 06:33 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

ac dc also.


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Re: most overrated bands\artists of all time. [Re: ]
    #2009005 - 10/14/03 07:05 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

mushmaster said:
ones that alot of people like, but i think totally blow. my list is:

1. kiss
2. van halen
3. rush
4. aerosmith
5. billy joel
6. bruce springsteen
7. the who




I don't think rush is over rated at all. They are a great band and their drummer is astonishing.


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Re: most overrated bands\artists of all time. [Re: ]
    #2009019 - 10/14/03 07:13 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Hendrix???? Jimi Hendrix???! Are you fuckin crazy?
AC/DC??? jeeebus.... what the hell? maybe someone you know that you hate reminds you of either of them, that's the only thing i can think of.

My list:
White Stripes (x1,000,000,000,000)
Nirvana
Kiss
Bruce Springsteen
Audioslave
Creed
Metallica (After Black Album)
Marilyn Manson


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Re: most overrated bands\artists of all time. [Re: Blastrid]
    #2009141 - 10/14/03 07:59 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Bob Marley

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Re: most overrated bands\artists of all time. [Re: reflectedlight]
    #2009366 - 10/14/03 09:22 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

the beatles.

the beatles were the first back street boys. they invented the 3 minute pop song. In the sixties, they sang about "all you need is love". Twenty years later they were suing eachother over royalties. Now they are a bunch of sellout yuppies that do "Say No to Drugs" commercials.

fuck the beatles.

john lennon is aight tho.


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Re: most overrated bands\artists of all time. [Re: DoctorJ]
    #2009799 - 10/14/03 11:26 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

:oogle:


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Re: most overrated bands\artists of all time. [Re: ]
    #2009815 - 10/14/03 11:27 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

ac dc definitely belongs on the list, but hendrix?

and nirvana's pretty good. kurt cobain was a good song writer. i don't think they get any more credit than they deserve.


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Re: most overrated bands\artists of all time. [Re: ]
    #2009826 - 10/14/03 11:30 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

All that's going to happen here is that people will name bands, and others will be like "FUCK YOU! NO WAY!"


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Re: most overrated bands\artists of all time. [Re: Sheepish]
    #2009831 - 10/14/03 11:30 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

haha. yeah. i think we can all agree on a few though...


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Re: most overrated bands\artists of all time. [Re: ]
    #2009836 - 10/14/03 11:31 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

mushmaster said:
ones that alot of people like, but i think totally blow. my list is:

1. kiss
2. van halen
3. rush
4. aerosmith
5. billy joel
6. bruce springsteen
7. the who




I agree with all of those except Rush and The Who


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Re: most overrated bands\artists of all time. [Re: Harbinger]
    #2010216 - 10/15/03 01:38 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

tool


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Re: most overrated bands\artists of all time. [Re: bert]
    #2010230 - 10/15/03 01:43 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Tool? Did you say tool? If you did , you should be kicked in the head.


fuck the beatles. :tongue:


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Re: most overrated bands\artists of all time. [Re: bert]
    #2010284 - 10/15/03 02:07 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

yes. tool indeed.

also... for anyone that may not realize it, the beatles are the greatest band of all time. if you disagree, you are wrong.


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Re: most overrated bands\artists of all time. [Re: ]
    #2010423 - 10/15/03 02:56 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

the beatles = corporate media puppets, not a band of Artists.

and Maynard could kick John's ass! :wink: 


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Re: most overrated bands\artists of all time. [Re: Middleman]
    #2010480 - 10/15/03 03:20 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Tool- No.

Hendrix- No.

Bob Marley- No.


You all can think what you want, but these guys have way too much talent than any of us could imagine, and are in some cases underrated.


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Re: most overrated bands\artists of all time. [Re: Middleman]
    #2010527 - 10/15/03 03:37 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

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the beatles = corporate media puppets, not a band of Artists.





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Re: most overrated bands\artists of all time. [Re: Observer]
    #2010818 - 10/15/03 07:14 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Let's see here... Rush isn't overrated. Sure, some of their songs are.. iffy.. but they are pure talent. They are like perfect musicians, virtuosos on their instruments (Geddy Lee! fuck yeah!). I think they should have gotten a singer, though, cause Geddy should have stuck to bass...

KISS is only in it for the money. Gene will straight up tell you that. The music.. isn't all that great. It is good enough, I susposse, but I don't even listen to it anymore...

Aerosmith was once kick ass. Like up to Get a Grip, I susposse. Of course, all their last albums before they completely sold out were barely written by them..... but like Livin' On The Edge remains my favourite song of all time...

TOOL, overrated? Haha. If anything, they are underrated...

AC/DC isn't really overrated, either.. they keep it simple and easy on a purpose, and to continue in that vein for that long is sort of amazing.. I mean, the songs are pretty cool.

Now, it be time to bring up what will be the biggest difference in opinion here.

METALLICA. To consider Load and Reload overrated is bullshit. The songs are fucking amazing. Is it speed metal? No. Does that mean it isn't good? No. Have you ever heard the song The House that Jack Built?! Fucking amazing. It borders on psychadelic..

I mean, Load and Reload are pretty damned good, as long as people don't compare them to their earlier work. If they were interested in continuing in the vein of Master of Puppets and Master of Puppets, they fucking would have, and they would have eventually burnt out and died away.

And Jaymz's vocal work is simply stunning. The best fucking singer in metal, bar none.. (Maynard and Serj come close, of course).

Of course, I won't even get into St. Anger.. it is good enough, I susposse, but I consider it a transisition... if they don't put out a new album in the next two years, though, (it should only be one year before they put out a new one, of course), I will fucking disown them......

The next album will like decide METALLICA's fate. They can stick to being true musicians or they can follow the current trend and fuck it all up.. METALLICA needs to like seriously come back out of the desert, get their act together just like any other band, and kick some serious ass.
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Re: most overrated bands\artists of all time. [Re: Blastrid]
    #2011223 - 10/15/03 12:58 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Blastrid said:


Bob Marley- No.







He isn't bad, but I'm tired of all these hippy stoner fucks(not that I have anything against them :tongue2:) telling me how he is the best thing to ever happen to music. 


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Re: most overrated bands\artists of all time. [Re: Harbinger]
    #2011553 - 10/15/03 04:32 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

yeah, there is a big difference between "bad" and "overrated"

I think Nirvana was overrated, but I don't think they were a bad band at all. Indeed, I own all their albumns.

having said that, I think the Grateful Dead is overrated, too.

90% of the people I know who chose to start listening to the dead did so for entirely social reasons. I appreaciate the culture that surrounds the band, but aesthetically, to me anyways, they are just another rock band from the 60's.

Some people listen to music because they like it, aesthetically. Others listen to music to fit in with some social circle, to get laid or get drugs. I find it hard to believe that these plastic hippie yuppie larvae kids really "get" what Jerry was trying to say.

"Saw a deadhead sticker on a Cadillac..."

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Re: most overrated bands\artists of all time. [Re: DoctorJ]
    #2011786 - 10/15/03 05:41 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Grateful Dead.
Absolutley... they are not too bad, but WAAAAAY overrated.


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Re: most overrated bands\artists of all time. [Re: domite]
    #2011892 - 10/15/03 06:14 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

i feel i must agree. phish as well. i'm not a fan of jam bands.

i'm not saying that these two are not good; they're just overrated in my opinion.

the original 7 i listed actually do suck though.


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Re: most overrated bands\artists of all time. [Re: ]
    #2011919 - 10/15/03 06:22 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Hey, Who's Next is a great album


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Re: most overrated bands\artists of all time. [Re: fireworks_god]
    #2012828 - 10/15/03 10:56 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

fireworks, we'll have to agree to disagree.
I think James has nothing on Maynard, there's NO way....
Even Jason said his vocals are way too limited.
Maynard cannot be compared to James.

I think Kirk is a fucking AMAZING guitarist, but I still think they're overrated.

I also think you can't judge Bob Marley by the modern "hippies" that say he's a god. just like Jerry...


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Re: most overrated bands\artists of all time. [Re: DoctorJ]
    #2012992 - 10/15/03 11:51 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

"They invented the 3 minute pop song."

Is there anything wrong with that? First off, they didn't invent it, but they did create a new approach. They made some great pop music.

Pop music isn't inherantly evil or bad. There is lots of great pop music, it doesn't necessarily have the technical mastery of some artists, but sometimes it is far more passionate.

Take Nirvana, for example. They weren't necessarily the most revolutionary band, but they were excellent. Kurt Cobain had all the pain and passion of Robert Johnson.

Sure, great sprawling guitar solos can be amazing, but that doesn't mean that simple, three chord rock doesn't kick ass sometimes. There's more than one way to be a great musician.


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Re: most overrated bands\artists of all time. [Re: Phluck]
    #2013609 - 10/16/03 03:45 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

there's only something wrong with pop music when it is created exploiting whatever talent the performer has for as much money as possible. Pop music just happens to be the perfect medium.
People don't have to like it, but they should at least know the difference between real artists who happen to play pop music, and sell-outs who play pop music. (not directed to anyone here specifically)


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Re: most overrated bands\artists of all time. [Re: Squid]
    #2013619 - 10/16/03 03:54 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Also so many people say Eddie van Halen is the greatest guitar player ever, I just don't get it. He seems too goofy and his playing just don't move at all."



Okay, fair enough, Eddie doesn't play blues based licks so his style may not be as purely "emotional" as some people would wish, however he was exceedingly innovative with the guitar(especially on the first 4 albums) and changed the way the instrument was approached, ask Hammett (sp?), Vai, Satriani and the rest of those monkees, they'll tell ya :grin:
 


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Re: most overrated bands\artists of all time. [Re: ]
    #2013874 - 10/16/03 07:23 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

I can't believe you said the Who. Listen to Live at Leeds and you'll hear simply the BEST LIVE ROCK N ROLL EVER. They were essentially a live band, they never worked as well in the studio.

That said, The Who Sell Out is one of my favourite albums of the sixties.

In my opinion, Endwhistle's the best bass player ever. Keith Moon's one of the best drummers. Townsheands up there as a guitarist, but think bout his composing. And give me Roger Daltrey over Robert Plant any day.

The Who over-rated??????? :mad: :mad: :mad: :crazy2: :crazy2: :nut: :nut: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: 


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Re: most overrated bands\artists of all time. [Re: Blastrid]
    #2014363 - 10/16/03 01:37 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

"People don't have to like it, but they should at least know the difference between real artists who happen to play pop music, and sell-outs who play pop music."

Yes, there are pop musicians, and pop performers.


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Re: most overrated bands\artists of all time. [Re: Blastrid]
    #2014467 - 10/16/03 02:16 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

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fireworks, we'll have to agree to disagree.
I think James has nothing on Maynard, there's NO way....
Even Jason said his vocals are way too limited.
Maynard cannot be compared to James.




Yes, we will have to agree to disagree, because Jamyz' voice sounds so much fucking cooler.. they really can't be compared, though, because they both have something else going on.

And Jaymz has so much fucking control, it is amazing. Years and years of fucking Bob Rock riding his ass until he got everything perfect, I guess. And Jason can fuck off, cause he isn't all that limited; he has been working on his range for quite some time now.

I'm sorry, I just can't get over how great his voice sounds.. hehe.

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I think Kirk is a fucking AMAZING guitarist, but I still think they're overrated.




Yes, Kirk is one of the fucking best guitarists out there.. I consider METALLICA underated, at least for Load and Reload. I think everyone really rides their fucking asses about it, but they really don't sound that bad. I mean, it isn't fucking speed metal, and maybe it is just because I grew up with that METALLICA, but the sound is so fucking sweet... you can't get better than fucking The House that Jack Built, King Nothing, or fucking Until It Sleeps.. Ain't my Bitch! yeah!
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Re: most overrated bands\artists of all time. [Re: fireworks_god]
    #2014519 - 10/16/03 02:32 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

^^^

all of my favorite mattalica songs featured mustaine on lead, or they were written by mustaine. Funny thing is, I decided I liked these songs best before I knew mustaine wrote/was involved with them.

Kirk Hammet sux, IMO.


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Re: most overrated bands\artists of all time. [Re: DoctorJ]
    #2015218 - 10/16/03 05:36 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

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^^^ 

all of my favorite mattalica songs featured mustaine on lead, or they were written by mustaine.  Funny thing is, I decided I liked these songs best before I knew mustaine wrote/was involved with them. 

Kirk Hammet sux, IMO. 




Are there actually any METALLICA songs featuring his playing? I know he has credit for like two songs, heh, but I don't think he actually played on them.. unless you have some bootlegs or something..

I actually dug up some demos they did back in '82! in original bassist's Ron Mc Govney's garage.. some pretty cool shit.

Kirk Hammett sucks? What makes you say that? :grin:
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Re: most overrated bands\artists of all time. [Re: fireworks_god]
    #2016102 - 10/16/03 09:47 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

fireworks god, this post is not directly towards you, I'm just lazy.


Are you guys serious? I don't think any of the bands anyone listed were bad, they all have their good points and bad points. Aren't we forgetting all those pop stars? Britney, Justin, Jennifer, blah, blah, tits, ass, etc. I think we can all agree they suck, but people are obviously buying their music, you hear their bullshit over the radio, on t.v. at work, and so forth. That's the real overrated garbage.

I for one think the Beatles are the greatest band ever. I think too many people equate them with the backstreet boys when this is WRONG! They all came together on their own accord for the music, which by the way was just beginning to get interesting around their time. They have been too BIG of an influence over the music genre to ever be considered bad or overrated. Almost every musician out there owes them a debt of gratitude.




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Re: most overrated bands\artists of all time. [Re: fireworks_god]
    #2016147 - 10/16/03 10:00 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

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Are there actually any METALLICA songs featuring his playing? I know he has credit for like two songs, heh, but I don't think he actually played on them.. unless you have some bootlegs or something..





A bunch of the stuff on Kill Em All was credited to Mustaine. I can't give you an exact list because my pothead ass lost the origional liner notes. I'm sure its online somewhere. I was also told he wrote "Call of Cthulu", however the fuck you spell that.

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Kirk Hammett sucks? What makes you say that?




his dependence on the pentatonic. His unwillingness to go minor. His integration of the blues into metal (I'm a neoclassical kinda guy myself). the predictable nature of his solos. His playing lacks edge, because he tends to stay in the safe territory. When he does use an exotic scale, he doesn't articulate it fully, and often plays it slowly.

I dunno, I'm sure he could blow ME away, I'm not saying he's a bad guitarist, I just prefer to listen to others.

Anyway, its prolly good mettalica kicked mustaine out, because Megadeth kicks Mettalica's ass.

Oh, and I really dont mean to pick on your tastes or anything, but I think Hetfield sounds like a redneck jock motherfucker when he sings, definitely not something I want to hear mixed into metal.

Of course, Mustaine sounds like Oscar the Grouch, but I actually like that. It fits the tone of the music, and its very origional.


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Re: most overrated bands\artists of all time. [Re: ]
    #2016703 - 10/17/03 01:09 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)


ones that alot of people like, but i think totally blow. my list is:

1. kiss
2. van halen
3. rush
4. aerosmith
5. billy joel
6. bruce springsteen
7. the who

I agree. I would add:

AC DC
Rolling Stones
Elton John(He just irritates me)
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    #2016803 - 10/17/03 02:17 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

dude!!! rolling stones, iron maiden (!!!), aerosmith, the who, bruce springsteen, rush, joel and acdc??!??!
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    #2016872 - 10/17/03 02:57 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Stones are good for sure.


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Re: most overrated bands\artists of all time. [Re: funkymonk]
    #2016898 - 10/17/03 03:09 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

(to not anyone in specific)
this list has grown too much into popular bands that you personally don't like.
Overrated, to me, means they get too much credit for what little talent they have.
This has gotten out of hand, and I think some are making judgements because they don't like their music and don't know enough about it to realize how skilled they are (or are not).

Soochi's right, the new pop acts are overrated, but not many people give them a 'talented' label... so it's more of a 'too popular for what little talent they have'.

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Re: most overrated bands\artists of all time. [Re: DoctorJ]
    #2017244 - 10/17/03 07:42 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

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A bunch of the stuff on Kill Em All was credited to Mustaine. I can't give you an exact list because my pothead ass lost the origional liner notes. I'm sure its online somewhere. I was also told he wrote "Call of Cthulu", however the fuck you spell that.




I looked up it, I think Mustaine helped write four songs on Kill Em All, like two on Ride the Lightning, and maybe one song on Master of Puppets. Just a second, I will pull the website back up quick.. The Four Horsemen, Jump in the Fire, Phantom Lord, Metal Militia, Ride the Lightning, and The Call of Ktulu (none off of Master of Puppets, I guess).

I think he like only played a small part in the writing of them, though. Enough to get credit, I guess. Like Call of Ktulu, it was like only the one riff, and like METALLICA made it better without him, by like changing root notes to get movement in it.... and you can hear that fucking riff fucking everywhere. Megadeth has used it in some of their songs, at the end of The God that Failed on the black album they even play a part of it...

A lot of what Kirk is capable of, we have never even heard.. his solos, though, they have a lot of taste, they stick in your head for quite some time.. at least mine, I guess.

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Oh, and I really dont mean to pick on your tastes or anything, but I think Hetfield sounds like a redneck jock motherfucker when he sings, definitely not something I want to hear mixed into metal.

Of course, Mustaine sounds like Oscar the Grouch, but I actually like that. It fits the tone of the music, and its very origional.





Heh, I like his vocals, that is all I can say. It just has this certain sound that really sounds good to me... it could be because like my voice can really get the same tone going for at least awhile (I've been working on vocals sort of, at least stamina so I can sing long enough to match tones and whatnot). Something about that really low Hetfield sound he can get.. hehe.

I like Dave Mustaine's singing as well, it has real character. If you notice, all the truly great bands all have singers that have their own unique sound.. METALLICA, KoRn, Megadeth, Ozzy, IN FLAMES, etc. etc. etc..

So, in conclusion: METALLICA's Load and Reload: extremely underated. Megadeth: extremely underated.
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    #2017623 - 10/17/03 12:21 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

No, I really believe those bands are talented, but overrated. Except, perhaps for Elton, who is extremely talented and just irritates me.


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Re: most overrated bands\artists of all time. [Re: catalyst777]
    #2017701 - 10/17/03 01:10 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Iron Maiden as overrated? I haven't exactly heard many people giving Iron Maiden their fucking due, and they are still moving on, still making some kick ass music true to their sound...

Iron Maiden is the fucking shit. I actually decided to start referring to them in capitals (only IN FLAMES, METALLICA, and TOOL have that privlege now), but then I would have to go back and rename all of my files, and I haven't gotten around to that, so until I do, capitals pending. :grin:
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Re: most overrated bands\artists of all time. [Re: fireworks_god]
    #2020500 - 10/18/03 02:51 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

AC/DC?! The father's of metal...if anything there under-rated for the world they opened up...most over-rated band of all times is sooooo blink-182...some people actually call it punk : /


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Re: most overrated bands\artists of all time. [Re: Toricious]
    #2020860 - 10/18/03 05:43 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

im gonna just throw this out and see how it goes. i think that green day was/ is way over rated. they brought with them a supposed punk revolution? more like a pop revolution. and about the whos pop thing...pop isnt always bad, but when refering to greenday, my opinion is that it is bad.


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Re: most overrated bands\artists of all time. [Re: mile69]
    #2020879 - 10/18/03 05:49 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Eh.... i consider Black Sabbath the founders of metal. Although AC/DC certainly played a large part. But I claim loyalty to Black Sabbath. :grin:.
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Re: most overrated bands\artists of all time. [Re: fireworks_god]
    #2020914 - 10/18/03 06:08 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Ok, I've read this entire thread, and I've decided it's overrated... :smirk:


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Re: most overrated bands\artists of all time. [Re: Papaver]
    #2021171 - 10/18/03 08:31 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

I think Kiss is defiantely overated. They dont have many good tracks....the reason they are big is because they were the first to put on a show that was run by broadway production team. Phish and Grateful dead are Good but I think they are overated as well...Then again, half of the experience with these bands is incorporated in the staging-lighting and just being part of the show. Grateful Dead didnt really sell that many records but they still draw a HUGE crowd when what's left of them play in concert. I agree with their approach. Im trying to be a live P.A. recording artist and one of my philosophies is, "If the crowd does'nt like what they are hearing, then atleast give them something else to look at. When puting on a show you must try to stimulate as many senses as possible." So they are not musical genious' but still put on a good show.


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    #2021222 - 10/18/03 09:19 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

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mushmaster said:
ones that alot of people like, but i think totally blow. my list is:

1. kiss
2. van halen
3. rush
4. aerosmith
5. billy joel
6. bruce springsteen
7. the who




i agree with all of those, but would like to point out that rush is not only overrated, but they suck.

the white stripes have rush beaten by light years as far as sucking and being overrated goes.

another band i think of, when i think of overrated bands, is widespread panic.



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Re: most overrated bands\artists of all time. [Re: eric_the_red]
    #2022636 - 10/19/03 02:54 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

How bout Pearl Jam... possably the most over rated band ever...
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Re: most overrated bands\artists of all time. [Re: DoctorJ]
    #2028720 - 10/21/03 02:39 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Svar p?:

DoctorJ said:
Now they are a bunch of sellout yuppies that do "Say No to Drugs" commercials.





hahaha, they do? s-e-l-l-o-u-t! John AND George were alright, and Beatles sure as hell has a lot of great songs. I agree with some of your points, though.

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Re: most overrated bands\artists of all time. [Re: yelimS]
    #2045312 - 10/26/03 06:58 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

I think a lot of people are just posting bands they don't like. I don't want to post my list because I know I'll always be offending someone just as you guys probably have offended each other (and me).

One thing is for sure... The Stones, The Beatles, and The Who are certainly not overrated... but it is completely understandable that some people wouldn't like them. I don't think threads like these really work to be honest.


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    #2045367 - 10/26/03 07:32 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Aerosmith for sure.


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    #2045379 - 10/26/03 07:37 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

every bad any of you have ever liked is overrated.


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    #2045771 - 10/26/03 11:07 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

My list of over-rated bands-

Nirvana
Aersmith
Rolling Stones.... ehh the list can get way too long..

But then there is the Beatles: Over-rated, I dont think so. I hate them, I think their music suck balls and I cant listen to it for more than about 15 seconds, BUT they were a huge influence on some of my favorite artists...

And the Grateful Dead? Defanatly not over-rated, especially these days. And just because there a A LOT of stupid fucking 'hippies' that think its cool to talk about the Dead and LSD, doesn't make them over-rated. I think every member (up to the 80's i guess) deserves a lot of fucking respect....awww... I could go on for hours about the dead...


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    #2045876 - 10/26/03 11:46 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

weird, nobody has mentioned Schpongle


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    #2045898 - 10/26/03 11:54 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

That's because Shpongle is awesome.


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    #2046003 - 10/27/03 12:50 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

haha sphongle.....

oh and about the metal thing, black sabbath may have made it known but i think the credit here belongs to King Crimson. Robert Fripp practically invented the use of heavy distortion/overdrive long before sabbath hit the scene.

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    #2046068 - 10/27/03 01:22 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

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No heavy distortion=no heavy metal...



Ya, but heavy metal isn't just about heavy distortion. Hendrix certainly isn't metal, even tho he used heavy distortion.


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    #2046142 - 10/27/03 01:51 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

All of the people who consider themselves "into" music and who disregard Jimi Hendrix, are the people who are too shallow to gain from his art, and it is art ,therefore eternal.


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    #2046185 - 10/27/03 02:01 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

yeah, i knew that would come up :smile:
i know heavy metal isn't only about distortion, but just the sound of king crimsom is so... metal...  I dont know if you have heard Crimson, but if they are not at least some way crucial to the development of "metal" music, they were way ahead of their time... 


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yeah, i knew that would come up :smile:
i know heavy metal isn't only about distortion, but just the sound of king crimsom is so... metal...  I dont know if you have heard Crimson, but if they are not at least some way crucial to the development of "metal" music, they were way ahead of their time... 



I agree with you, the RED album , for me , is their best, seriously bass heavy. 


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    #2049555 - 10/28/03 03:14 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

to be honest, i dont like much ouside of 21st CSM ans Starless...


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Re: most overrated bands\artists of all time. [Re: cortex]
    #2050993 - 10/28/03 05:30 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Nobody likes the white stripes? I like the stuff they have. They keep it simple and catchy, and every single video they've released is more like art then the pop crap on TV.

www.launch.com check out "The Hardest Button to Button". Awesome artsy stuff.

I like em and I don't think they're overrated just yet.


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    #2051024 - 10/28/03 05:39 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Robots,

Me, I am totally over-rated in your mind.
In fact, I don't even exist.

What was that about robots earlier?

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    #2051037 - 10/28/03 05:44 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

cortezthekiller7,

That is some keyboard.

Do you take it to bed with you?
Are you married?
What does your wife think about the keyboard?

Is heaven above the ceiling, or between the walls?

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    #2051060 - 10/28/03 05:50 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

As for shit artists,

I'm sure you will agree with me that the next "Pop Stars", "Pop Idol", "Whatever" will be wank, and a waste of your time.

Personally I will vote for anything as long as it is pointless.
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Re: most overrated bands\artists of all time. [Re: funkymonk]
    #2053081 - 10/29/03 09:10 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

eminem is overrated

someone said white stripes music videos were art.
there is an exhibition being held in my city at the moment, where a white stripes video is being repeatedld played over and over again. its part of a pixel themed gallery which i can't seem to remember the name of. It's quite a good art gallery too, i think they have a monet. :smile:



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Re: most overrated bands\artists of all time. [Re: Zildjian]
    #2053352 - 10/29/03 12:30 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

I think all those lame metal/rap bands that became popular in the late 1990s are totally overated. This includes Korn, Limp Biskit, Kid Rock, etc. Whatever, they suck.

Also, all the music that passes as "punk" these days is quite lame too. Something about really melodic, sappy pop songs played on MTV under the once-rebellious name of punk rock is quite lame in my book.

I'll say that 99% of what is being played on MTV and/or big corporate commerical radio sucks and is over-rated.


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Re: most overrated bands\artists of all time. [Re: cortex]
    #2053377 - 10/29/03 12:46 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

i can't see how anyone could dislike the beatles. if you think they aren't any good, you haven't heard enough of their work or your taste in music blows. period.

what are some of these beatles songs that you "cant listen to it for more than about 15 seconds"? i'm very curious...

if it's their older stuff, i can see that. that was when they were first coming up, they had talent, but they weren't really original. they were just playing what everyone else was playing... they were pop-y, they were a boy band.

then they got simply brilliant. listen to revolver, sgt. peppers, abbey road, and the white album and tell me they aren't brilliant. these guys were geniuses.

the beatles are legendary. 200 years from now people will remember the beatles.

seriously. listen to revolver all the way through. do it.

(also... this is no an a subjective matter. what i'm saying here is not my opinion. it is an objective truth that the beatles were the greatest band of all time. it's not a matter of personal preference, it's a matter of fact.  :wink:)


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Re: most overrated bands\artists of all time. [Re: Xochitl]
    #2053503 - 10/29/03 01:58 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

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I think all those lame metal/rap bands that became popular in the late 1990s are totally overated. This includes Korn, Limp Biskit, Kid Rock, etc. Whatever, they suck.





Hey, man, I don't consider KoRn overated. They are full of talent. They might have come up with a totally original kind of music that sounds great, is unconvential (at least, until everyone started attempting to leech their sound), and was capable of carrying a lot of meaning and emotion.

If anything, KoRn is underated by all the old fucks that write it off so quickly...
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Re: most overrated bands\artists of all time. [Re: Zildjian]
    #2053548 - 10/29/03 02:14 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

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someone said white stripes music videos were art.
there is an exhibition being held in my city at the moment, where a white stripes video is being repeatedld played over and over again. its part of a pixel themed gallery which i can't seem to remember the name of. It's quite a good art gallery too, i think they have a monet. :smile:





It's probably "Fell in love with a girl" which is lego-riffic. The White Stripes are very good to their fans and aren't the corporate pigs other bands are.


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Re: most overrated bands\artists of all time. [Re: fireworks_god]
    #2053825 - 10/29/03 04:08 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Korn is just boring to me, as is most metal.


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Re: most overrated bands\artists of all time. [Re: ]
    #2053865 - 10/29/03 04:21 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

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i can't see how anyone could dislike the beatles. if you think they aren't any good, you haven't heard enough of their work or your taste in music blows. period.

what are some of these beatles songs that you "cant listen to it for more than about 15 seconds"? i'm very curious...

if it's their older stuff, i can see that. that was when they were first coming up, they had talent, but they weren't really original. they were just playing what everyone else was playing... they were pop-y, they were a boy band.

then they got simply brilliant. listen to revolver, sgt. peppers, abbey road, and the white album and tell me they aren't brilliant. these guys were geniuses.

the beatles are legendary. 200 years from now people will remember the beatles.

seriously. listen to revolver all the way through. do it.

(also... this is no an a subjective matter. what i'm saying here is not my opinion. it is an objective truth that the beatles were the greatest band of all time. it's not a matter of personal preference, it's a matter of fact. )





Actually, I did exagerate a little in my previous post. I do like the song "A day in the life" and "Strawberry Fields Forever" is kinda cool. But, Honestly dude, I just really can't get into the Beatles for the most part. I have listened to a lot of it because I know so many people like them, but I just plain do not like most of their shit. Just pecause a shit load of people have the same opinion, does not make that opinion a fact.


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Re: most overrated bands\artists of all time. [Re: cortex]
    #2053932 - 10/29/03 04:42 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

I think the white stripes musik is crap but I'm sure there nice people..


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Re: most overrated bands\artists of all time. [Re: Bhairabas]
    #2054199 - 10/29/03 06:39 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

as do I. Realize, this is MY honest opinion, I think the white stripes are talentless, unoriginal, going-for-nostalgic group of too few people.
really some of the worst music I've heard.
It would be even worse if they were dicks, but you say they're good to their fans, that's really admirable-honestly. The worst is when you love a band and then meet them and they're assholes.


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Re: most overrated bands\artists of all time. [Re: fireworks_god]
    #2054239 - 10/29/03 06:54 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

people still listen to korn?  :confused:


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    #2055254 - 10/30/03 12:06 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

how could i have forgotten tool?


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Re: most overrated bands\artists of all time. [Re: Grandpa]
    #2061684 - 10/31/03 10:20 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

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It's probably "Fell in love with a girl" which is lego-riffic. The White Stripes are very good to their fans and aren't the corporate pigs other bands are. 




yeah it was, i like the white stripes, i like all kinds of music. :smile:




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Re: most overrated bands\artists of all time. [Re: ]
    #2070014 - 11/04/03 12:55 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

I agree with that list for the most part and I would also add nirvana.

I just don't get it with Nirvana?


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    #2071579 - 11/05/03 12:20 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Most overrated channel of all time. [Re: KackleDude]
    #2073202 - 11/05/03 02:41 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

50-Cent is an overrated gold-chain-wearing turd. :smirk:


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Re: most overrated bands\artists of all time. [Re: catalyst777]
    #2073207 - 11/05/03 02:43 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Anyone who says the beatles are exactly like the backstreet boys has obviously never even listened to them. Probably the same type of people that are so shallow that they think any music older tha 10 years is crap.


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Re: most overrated bands\artists of all time. [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
    #2075594 - 11/06/03 01:41 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

^^^Exactly. I'm listening to the Beatles right now. If the Backstreet Boys were even half that creative or talented, I'd have way more respect for them.


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Re: most overrated bands\artists of all time. [Re: silversoul7]
    #2076136 - 11/06/03 06:11 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Oasis....overrated beyond belief. Charlie snorting, one trick dicks.

Im just glad nobody here has called Radiohead overrated :grin: 


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Re: most overrated bands\artists of all time. [Re: Middleman]
    #2082769 - 11/08/03 01:40 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

"yes. tool indeed."

OK I am going to defend TOOL based on the fact I play guitar and I KNOW whats original, at least in terms of TIMING etc and TOOL is!

tool has a timing of 13\7 on some songs, most music is 4\4
anyway,musical folk will see what I am saying, and if you think tool sucks, but you dont play yourself

well then I dont care !!

aside from that WHITE STRIPES I AGREE!!!!!! RUSH ETC YES

but not TOOL
Not Hendrix!!!!!!!!!!(I wont even begin to describe , how original hendrix was)

someone here comliain that the bettles invented the 3 minute POP song!
Well.....have you heard the  St.peppers  album?????????
maybe even on acid???

The bettles did alot of ground breaking music on that album that isnt even CLOSE to what I would call pop now or then.

must of had something to do with the LSD :smirk:


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Re: most overrated bands\artists of all time. [Re: ]
    #2082811 - 11/08/03 01:50 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

I am no big fan of Korn but they are not rapmetal


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Re: most overrated bands\artists of all time. [Re: Psilocybeingzz]
    #2082896 - 11/08/03 02:41 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

How can Phish be overrated? The media almost entirely ignores them. They get zero radio play. Trey is a mad scientist. Phish has written too many awesome songs and they effectively utulize many different styles of music.

The Grateful Dead. Their music is definitely not overrated. But there are too many kids that sport stickers and shirts for reasons other than the music. Not a crime but, I could do without that.

The Beatles. Possibly the most important band in the history of rock? OVERRATED? Hardly.

I don't think Tool is overated. That said, I dislike their music. I know this sounds so cliche, but all their songs sound too much alike, Those fuckers need to diversify. They have their own style: shitty. I liked their first couple songs, but then it got old fast. Dissapointing to say the least.

Metalica they wrote some good songs. Overrated? Probably.

Soochi has a damn good point. Why are arguing about these bands. Even I'll admit I'd rather listen to Tool than JT or whatever the shit they are playing on mtv these days. MTV and most radio is all about advertising and money and so not about MUSIC.


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Re: most overrated bands\artists of all time. [Re: Middleman]
    #2083031 - 11/08/03 04:25 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

You people are insane. The Beatles? Overrated? Give me a break. I don't care how popular they were in the 60's or how they fell apart later, if you actually listen to their music... incredibly innovative and artistic! Geez :P

Anyway, led zeppellin is overrated.


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Re: most overrated bands\artists of all time. [Re: Quintessence]
    #2083146 - 11/08/03 06:17 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

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I don't think Tool is overated. That said, I dislike their music. I know this sounds so cliche, but all their songs sound too much alike, Those fuckers need to diversify. They have their own style: shitty. I liked their first couple songs, but then it got old fast. Dissapointing to say the least.





you may not like them , but I think I can safely say that.....the music IS DIFFERENT

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Re: most overrated bands\artists of all time. [Re: Psilocybeingzz]
    #2088828 - 11/10/03 10:14 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

someone insulted tool... lol... they might as well ban him cuz everyones gonna hate him from now on... j/k


malachi is the most underated recording artist of all time, considering they are obviously the sickest!


and korn was rap metal in 1994.. they helped start the nu metal movement which i was unluckily part of way back then.


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