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d33p
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Re: Reaching the 5th level, and beyond.... [Re: entiformatie]
#2009383 - 10/14/03 07:27 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yes ive heard that story, cant say anything as messed up as breaking my ankle naked happned to me but ive had a few experences which i couldnt even begin to explain with words, maybe grunts ;x
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entiformatie
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Re: Reaching the 5th level, and beyond.... [Re: d33p]
#2009442 - 10/14/03 07:50 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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lol, you've heard that story?! like, the one that happened to me? it wouldnt surprise me. a bunch of people who never knew me before asked me if i was the kdi that jumped off the pier, and a bunch of people i meet are like, wait a sec, you're THAT kid? i'm like... infamous. which is kinda bad, cause i made mushrooms look bad. so im sorry to everybody here. I'm more learned now though. I realize how unobjective i was, and how much i was lieing to myself about my drug use.
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harken989
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Re: Reaching the 5th level, and beyond.... [Re: entiformatie]
#2009875 - 10/14/03 09:39 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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"To a lvl 5 virgin, like harken, who is a little afraid of the experience being bad" I know one of the main reasons for bad trips is not going with the flow, if your fight it you will lose, you must become one. LOL...well I'm not afraid of it beind bad persay, but I just need to merge into a lvl5 trip by myself. All my trips have been very extroverted, so I'm thinking a solo CEV/Dark Room would fit the bill.
p.s. Also read up on some Psychedelic Experience by Leary, some good hints on attaining the ultimate nirvana/ego-loss/enlightenment.
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Rose
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Re: Reaching the 5th level, and beyond.... [Re: harken989]
#2009922 - 10/14/03 09:49 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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Good luck, I think you're on a good path.
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rommstein2001
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Re: Reaching the 5th level, and beyond.... [Re: Rose]
#2010266 - 10/15/03 12:02 AM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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Strangely, I've never had ego-loss in a trip, only after. Well, that is, my ego is slowly growing back and I'm aware of me being someone else. Meditation has gotten me further than any drug.
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Seuss
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Re: Reaching the 5th level, and beyond.... [Re: rommstein2001]
#2010911 - 10/15/03 07:11 AM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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> Meditation has gotten me further than any drug.
I have gotten good results from both, though a drug wears off after time while meditation lasts as long as I stay mindful. Some drugs, such as alcohol, actually work in the opposite direction, for me at least. If I mix something like 1/3 of an mdma pill or a hit of 'cid along with meditation... woah...
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rommstein2001
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Re: Reaching the 5th level, and beyond.... [Re: Seuss]
#2011444 - 10/15/03 02:00 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hehe. Speaking of E I think I need to roll soon.
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cybrbeast
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Re: Reaching the 5th level, and beyond.... [Re: harken989]
#2020162 - 10/18/03 08:35 AM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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Salvia can take me to egoloss and back again in five minutes. When I was there, I didn't experience fear or joy because those concepts just didn't exist. I was just a part moving through a fractal dimension. On the comedown I was observing a person lying on his bed in a room when it suddenly dawned to me that; he was me. I think that was egoloss, but I might be surprised if I ever take a higher dose.
It's strange though that many people who use Salvia find themselves in strange realities, like warped rooms or imaginary settings. I usually find myself in complete unrealities, where physics and anything that resembles our world just cease to exist.
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Re: Reaching the 5th level, and beyond.... [Re: cybrbeast]
#2020534 - 10/18/03 01:05 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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salvia seems very strange, i can't even imagine what those trips are like.
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Re: Reaching the 5th level, and beyond.... [Re: TODAY]
#2021327 - 10/18/03 08:14 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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On my first 3.5 grams i had a level 5 trip, i enter in a trance mode. really revealing, since then only trip once and it was 1.5 gms which was annoying. I have trip on acid an only get visuals no mindfuck.
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scotsman1
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Re: Reaching the 5th level, and beyond.... [Re: learning_byte]
#2022567 - 10/19/03 12:08 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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We were trippping every week and built up a big tolarance. We ended up 10g was all we could get off on then we would top it up with sometimes 6g. Hippie told me i was walking the fine line between heaven and hell and we sure went to both places.
When it was good it was out of this world, tripping for 6 hours solid. I loved seeing vases float off shelves or seeing to TV sets on top of one an other. Nothing was every straight, doors ect all seemed out of line, roads turned to rivers.
When it was bad it was BAD, infact it was pure fucking evil, deathly sometimes. I had 2 major bad trips, 1 alone and 1 with a friend first 1 10g the second with a friend 16g.
The first 1 without going into to much details was after 10g of b+ one sat afternoon alone at home. It started good and i was into it big time then it started going bad very bad infact. I called a friend in tears but he could not come so i suffered till wy wife came home and cryed in her arms. The second one i was much more expierienced, we took to much, we were greedy i mean 16g, who in there right mind takes 16g. The first 10g was great but when we topped it to 16g we bad tripped, hot flushes and all that shit. But this time i talked myself out of it by pacing up and down the room telling, yelling at myself i was ok.
Heaven and Hell remember
My friend and his wife went from growing to being so scared they have not taken any in over a year. I got over my fear but now i'm a 4g person, i seen the vases float but i watch my amount so never to develope that fear again.
happy and safe tripping
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austin_72283
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Re: Reaching the 5th level, and beyond.... [Re: scotsman1]
#2023782 - 10/19/03 08:42 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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what is the 5th level ? im still a "newbie" if you will
thx austin
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Rose
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Re: Reaching the 5th level, and beyond.... [Re: austin_72283]
#2023869 - 10/19/03 09:21 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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This thread gives you a good idea of what the fifth level. If you have never tripped. It is a little hard to explain. Let me see if I can find a link.
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Rose
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Re: Reaching the 5th level, and beyond.... [Re: Rose]
#2023907 - 10/19/03 09:37 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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http://www.shroomery.org/index/par/11
There it is.
Lvl 5 is a different trip entirely than lvls 1-4.
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Joshua
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Re: Reaching the 5th level, and beyond.... [Re: harken989]
#2024585 - 10/20/03 02:54 AM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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You know you have reached level five when you piss or shit your pants. When you no longer have conscious control or unconscious control over your body, this is an indication of a very high trip. I have eaten very large quantities of mushrooms in the past. I also am drawn to large doses. My highest trip was brought about by eating 90 grams of fresh Argentines. I have no recollection of the first three hours of my trip. I emerged from nothingness to enter my awaiting consciousness. I suggest reading "LSD Psychotherapy" by Stanislav Grof for any serious psychonaut. He mentions various levels of experiences from psychedelic sessions and describes them and their meaning/essence. Not that there can be a description of a trips true essence, he does a great job in attempting the feat. Joshua
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Joshua
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Re: Reaching the 5th level, and beyond.... [Re: Joshua]
#2025300 - 10/20/03 11:28 AM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'll have to modify that last post by saying this. "You know you have reached level five when you piss or shit your pants and don't realize it until later." I was lucky enough to have had an empty bowel when I shot through the level 5 ceiling. Joshua
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Seuss
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Re: Reaching the 5th level, and beyond.... [Re: Joshua]
#2025492 - 10/20/03 12:27 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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> ... and don't realize it until later.
Much better... I was going to call you on that, but decided to wait and see if anybody else would pick up on it. 
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Joshua
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Re: Reaching the 5th level, and beyond.... [Re: Seuss]
#2025538 - 10/20/03 12:39 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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Heck, if reaching a level five was as easy as pissing your pants....everyone would be doing it.
Joshua
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Rose
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Re: Reaching the 5th level, and beyond.... [Re: Joshua]
#2025898 - 10/20/03 02:22 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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That's funny.
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DanKnugget
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Re: Reaching the 5th level, and beyond.... [Re: Rose]
#2027405 - 10/20/03 11:54 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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rofl joshua
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