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UKMunter
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Re: 'New age' criticism of psychedelic drugs / What do you think of this? [Re: UKMunter]
#20050966 - 05/28/14 10:43 AM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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Personally Da2ra . I would prefer practising these techniques, > I loved reading up on Dosha ect.
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Re: 'New age' criticism of psychedelic drugs / What do you think of this? [Re: UKMunter] 1
#20051079 - 05/28/14 11:18 AM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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I like my Ojas toasted
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Re: 'New age' criticism of psychedelic drugs / What do you think of this? [Re: Jot]
#20052229 - 05/28/14 04:30 PM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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The new "weeds amazing and not a drug" thing, I see slot of annoying posers. Probably the same for psychedelics.
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Re: 'New age' criticism of psychedelic drugs / What do you think of this? [Re: dark3st]
#20052251 - 05/28/14 04:33 PM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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. Other people might say that drugs are a doorway, but I don’t see it develop anything. It doesn’t develop equanimity, it doesn’t develop investigation, it doesn’t develop any of the factors of enlightenment.
It sounds like a persuasive technique used by rehabs.
This whole thing is bullshit. I mean for real chakras? That's the most thing I ever read or when people tell me about it in RL I tell them to leave me alone because it is, in fact, bullshit.
He just went full retard, never go full retard
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Re: 'New age' criticism of psychedelic drugs / What do you think of this? [Re: Nihon_Hyperspace] 1
#20052291 - 05/28/14 04:42 PM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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The New Age is part of the patriarchal belief system which is dualistic, AND what has been infiltrated into the psychedelic movement by the elite's 'Intelligence' agents!
Yes, some New Age beliefs are anti psychedelics, but also some seem pro but also make sure to push their New Age BS. Pushing the occult via Aleister Crowley.
So fuck with the new Age --it is evil. it looks at nature and the body as an illusion. Psychedelics wisely used can help you see through toxic myths that devide you from yourself and nature, and this is why they fear it and seek to subvert the experience through mind control.
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Re: 'New age' criticism of psychedelic drugs / What do you think of this? [Re: zzripz]
#20052362 - 05/28/14 04:57 PM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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anyone is free to make use of any religion to further their agenda as it pertains to substances. there were some new age teachings that once guided me towards a more psychedelic mindset. the same is true with buddhism and hinduism. there are surely many people within these faiths that would disagree with my opinions. make use of the world that's at your disposal.
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UKMunter
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Re: 'New age' criticism of psychedelic drugs / What do you think of this? [Re: bass head]
#20060346 - 05/30/14 09:42 AM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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Why does tripping out have any connection with religion and spiritualism .. ??
I believe that to be an honest question. I'm not deliberately stepping on toes here, I do though believe that I might offend. Thing is the whole idea of taking mushrooms is different for me. I don't see why humanity is how it is because my brain chemistry has gone fucked up through poisoning, and because I can see things how there meant to be maaan !! . Fuck off spiritualism and as we see some religion and new age beliefs. Your taking a substance that's all in ya head maaaan !!
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Re: 'New age' criticism of psychedelic drugs / What do you think of this? [Re: UKMunter]
#20060361 - 05/30/14 09:47 AM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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Well first off, your brain isn't "poisoned" by mushrooms. The active chemicals are closely related to our own neurotransmitters, and bind to those neurotransmitters' receptor sites. Second off, everything is a chemical reaction, including your normal thought processes & perception of "reality".
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Re: 'New age' criticism of psychedelic drugs / What do you think of this? [Re: Dark_Star]
#20060369 - 05/30/14 09:50 AM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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^^ Yes .. That's it, reality !! It's nice I guess to have faith
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Re: 'New age' criticism of psychedelic drugs / What do you think of this? [Re: UKMunter]
#20060381 - 05/30/14 09:54 AM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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Our perception of reality may be very far from the truth through. Physics, particularly quantum physics, keep throwing monkey wrenches in what we believe to be real/true.
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Re: 'New age' criticism of psychedelic drugs / What do you think of this? [Re: Dark_Star]
#20060401 - 05/30/14 10:03 AM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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LoL . Hey just what you see !!
Quantum physics ... ?
I believe that the perception of truth is being more and more stretched as science progresses yes, of course. Spiritualism and religion though. I don't think there is a big enough wrench amongst beliefs.
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Re: 'New age' criticism of psychedelic drugs / What do you think of this? [Re: UKMunter]
#20060422 - 05/30/14 10:10 AM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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The way I see it, if it helps people out in their lives & whatnot, and they're not forcing it down my throat, who am I to judge and/or give a shit? Now if they are trying to force it down my throat, well then we have problems.
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Re: 'New age' criticism of psychedelic drugs / What do you think of this? [Re: Dark_Star]
#20060455 - 05/30/14 10:18 AM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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I would not throw the baby out with the bath water here.
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Some people appear to be untouched by the use of these drugs in the short term, but there remains an unnecessary high risk for too many vulnerable drug users. The most vulnerable are people who have vata constitutions, are vata imbalanced, have been previously diagnosed with mental conditions, have a sensitive nadi system, or are dehydrated.
^These are the contraindications for heavy psychedelic use as quoted in the OP.
Besides Nadi stabilization* and hydration; it looks like calming Vata is the primary concern. So;
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To counteract the drying, chilling, crazy-making quality of too much Vata, Ayurvedic wisdom recommends enjoying food, spices and drink possessing the opposite qualities. A Vata balancing diet includes nourishment that is warming, hydrating and grounding. This includes foods such as thick soups, whole grains and cooked, dark leafy greens made succulent with good fat sources and zesty with the addition of such flavors as ginger, mustard seed, nutmeg and cardamom.
Read more: http://www.ehow.com/facts_7437981_vata-balancing-diet.html#ixzz33DSL6fxz
Sounds like a good way to eat the week of a psychedelic experience.
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The most powerful method of balancing ida and pingala is Nadi Shodhana, alternate-nostril breathing. (Literally, the Sanskrit means “nadi cleansing.”) This practice is effective because the ida nadi is directly connected to the left nostril, and the pingala nadi to the right. A few rounds of this basic Pranayama technique at the end of an asana practice are an excellent way to help restore equilibrium between the two nadis and to compensate for any imbalance you may have inadvertently caused during your practice.
http://marinayoga.wordpress.com/2013/04/30/nadis-nadi-shodana-and-the-nervous-system/
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UKMunter
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Re: 'New age' criticism of psychedelic drugs / What do you think of this? [Re: Dark_Star]
#20060476 - 05/30/14 10:23 AM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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That's just simple respects in both respects !
Fair enough dude, just glad I wasn't pulled into a quantum physical debate there !!! >
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UKMunter
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Re: 'New age' criticism of psychedelic drugs / What do you think of this? [Re: UKMunter]
#20060511 - 05/30/14 10:31 AM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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Love reading up on any stuff like this .> Yoga ! ... Now I have heard that crossing your legs doesn't do your circulation any good .. ! See while I am stressing my heart out, i'm also giving better serotonin levels to my head !! > hahaha ..
Earth, Water, Fire the elements of our bodies. These need to be balanced by either a good steak and a beer. Or Yoga, or Dosha techniques ... hmmm yummy to me
^^ nice read x
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Re: 'New age' criticism of psychedelic drugs / What do you think of this? [Re: UKMunter]
#20060556 - 05/30/14 10:48 AM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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UKMunter said: LoL . Hey just what you see !!
Quantum physics ... ?
I believe that the perception of truth is being more and more stretched as science progresses yes, of course.
As has been the case since the beginning of "science." And yes, I put quotes around science because science too is purely based on perception and perception makes up "reality." So if reality is not what it seems, either is science...
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Edited by Aiko Aiko (05/30/14 10:49 AM)
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UKMunter
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Re: 'New age' criticism of psychedelic drugs / What do you think of this? [Re: Aiko Aiko]
#20060601 - 05/30/14 11:01 AM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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Think that was what Dark star was touching on .
So what are you saying ? I cant see you point . The further humanity progresses in science the less it actually exists >?
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Re: 'New age' criticism of psychedelic drugs / What do you think of this? [Re: UKMunter]
#20060707 - 05/30/14 11:29 AM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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Well, I guess perception can be subjective or objective. Science is the objective approach to our perceptions, so my original claim fails, haha!
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