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Psilohuasca Dosage Advice
    #20056680 - 05/29/14 04:59 PM (6 years, 7 days ago)

Hey, I posted another thread but it was too long-winded and got no replies. I have 1.5 grams of cubensis to use for a single psilohuasca journey, my first and probably only for a few more years, how much caapi (growing two caapi vines myself) do you think I should use with the mushrooms? The most I've taken at once was 4 grams dried mushrooms and I'd like the experience to be as strong as possible without being overwhelming or disrespectful to the vine.

I'd really appreciate any advice you can give :smile:


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Re: Psilohuasca Dosage Advice [Re: FunkyBuddha]
    #20056718 - 05/29/14 05:09 PM (6 years, 7 days ago)

Are you familiar with harmalas/caapi/rue? I would try them on their own first if you haven't yet. They can get very psychedelic and nauseating at higher doses. But everyone's dose varies to get such and such effect, so it would be good to figure that out.

It's tricky mixing them with mushrooms, since it ramps things up so much. I've gotten a lot of nausea even from lower amounts of the mix but some love the combo and I did have one great experience on it. If it's only 1.5g mushrooms then you should be fine. I'd take around 60 or 70g vine depending on the potency (vine varies a lot sometimes).

Have some fresh ginger you can nibble in case the nausea is really bad...And don't resist the purge if it starts coming up (unless you just ate your dose a few minutes before), as this will only prolong nausea/discomfort. Laying down in silent darkness is the best for nausea and going deep on harmalas.


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Re: Psilohuasca Dosage Advice [Re: gushtunkinflupped]
    #20057219 - 05/29/14 06:58 PM (6 years, 7 days ago)

No I haven't any experience with harmalas on their own but I'll definitely look into it, rue is much easier to get in Australia but I've heard it's very different to caapi and that it produces much more anxiety and 'darkness'. I'll see how fast my vines grow and if I'll have enough to do an initial caapi only trip and then the psilohuasca, but if I don't have enough for both, do you think it'd still be safe enough to go straight to psilohuasca?


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Re: Psilohuasca Dosage Advice [Re: FunkyBuddha]
    #20057256 - 05/29/14 07:06 PM (6 years, 7 days ago)

Rue or b caapi work fine
Don't need both
1.5 gm cubes probably is too small... 2-3 gm is good

3-5 gm of rue is good
40-60 gm of b caapi, brewed, is good

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Re: Psilohuasca Dosage Advice [Re: HarryL]
    #20058127 - 05/29/14 10:06 PM (6 years, 6 days ago)

You can knock out the Rue-related anxiety by adding 3 to 4 grams of dried Lemon Balm to the mix. Works wonderfully, guaranteed :smile:

It'll also help calm down any anxiety or panic/fear caused by the Shrooms, as it does with DMT. It also seems to relax one into the experience, and make the experience way less "dark", atleast it does with Ayahuasca/Pharmahuasca.


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Re: Psilohuasca Dosage Advice [Re: HarryL]
    #20058415 - 05/29/14 11:01 PM (6 years, 6 days ago)

So make a 50g caapi tea, should I add the mushrooms (thinking 2.5g?) to the same tea, make a separate one or eat them straight up? I've only ever had mushroom tea before but I'm going to be eating 4 grams a few weeks so I'll see how my stomach goes :smile: :mushroom:

oh cool! I'll add that to my psilohuasca even if I use caapi just to be safe, I've got some growing


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Re: Psilohuasca Dosage Advice [Re: FunkyBuddha]
    #20058471 - 05/29/14 11:14 PM (6 years, 6 days ago)

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oh cool! I'll add that to my psilohuasca even if I use caapi just to be safe, I've got some growing




Right on! :smile:


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Re: Psilohuasca Dosage Advice [Re: HarryL]
    #20058595 - 05/29/14 11:46 PM (6 years, 6 days ago)

Quote:

HarryL said:
Rue or b caapi work fine
Don't need both
1.5 gm cubes probably is too small... 2-3 gm is good

3-5 gm of rue is good
40-60 gm of b caapi, brewed, is good

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Great advise.  But pro-tip learn how to do a simple manske extraction on the Rue. (Theres a guide on erowid)  Unless you're into it for the purgative effects.  Viscene is gnarly as fuck, sure to make you pray to the porcelain god. 
Also remember to take your MAOI 45 mins or so before you drink your triptamine tea or eat your mushrooms or whatever it is you do.
If not extracted harmalas, make sure to have a bucket ready.  By the time you feel the need to purge, its too late.  I've been knee deep in my own soul and covered in red vomit.  Don't be that guy. 

Harmalas are simply divine when used in combination with LSD and mushrooms.  They help part the veil to the next world.  Make sure and lean into the weird stomach feelings.  Consider the pains part of the experience, It has taken me further out than just about any other combination.

And if nobody has said it yet.  Don't even think about doing this without :nitrous: on hand.  If you do, well shame on you, you're better than that. :awecid:


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Re: Psilohuasca Dosage Advice [Re: TheGreenArrow]
    #20059654 - 05/30/14 06:45 AM (6 years, 6 days ago)

Yeah I think I'll avoid the rue, cbf'd extracting plus I've got caapi here already :smile: but what's that about the nitrous? You are or aren't recommending to take it with the psilohuasca?


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Re: Psilohuasca Dosage Advice [Re: FunkyBuddha]
    #20060946 - 05/30/14 02:50 PM (6 years, 6 days ago)

Oh Fuck ya!  If you ain't huffing a balloon during the peak, you're gonna miss out. 
Plus I like them to just shake myself out of a headspace.
:nitrous: :yeahthatsright:


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equation, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a
computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly.
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Re: Psilohuasca Dosage Advice [Re: TheGreenArrow]
    #20066085 - 05/31/14 08:30 PM (6 years, 5 days ago)

Haha not a fan of :nitrous: but thanks anyway! Anyone have any opinions on mixing weed with psilo/ayahuasca? Because a lot of people say it makes their trips 'foggier' or less clear but I smoked like three joints over the entire trip when I took 3.5grams of cubensis and I didn't experience that at all


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Re: Psilohuasca Dosage Advice [Re: FunkyBuddha]
    #20066339 - 05/31/14 09:28 PM (6 years, 5 days ago)

I personally LOVE smoked Cannabis with my Ayahuasca, the two go hand in hand perfectly and synergize quite nicely. In fact, i've never taken Ayahuasca and not smoked Cannabis before, during and after. It enhances the euphoria, helps me relax into the experience and is overall a good comfort herb, including to help with nausea. It should go wonderfully with Psilohuasca as well.

As for the Nitrous GreenArrow, i'm pretty sure that's not something most people would enjoy, especially whilst on Aya/Psilo-huasca. But to each their own :smile:


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Re: Psilohuasca Dosage Advice [Re: Sabnock]
    #20066351 - 05/31/14 09:30 PM (6 years, 5 days ago)

Cool! I'll see how weed goes with a stronger dose of mushrooms (like 4 grams) and see for myself how it plays in to stronger psychedelic experiences but that's good to hear :smile:


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Re: Psilohuasca Dosage Advice [Re: FunkyBuddha]
    #20067014 - 06/01/14 12:19 AM (6 years, 4 days ago)

You are both wrong.  Psyches and :nitrous: are heavenly.  Do one while tripping, then tell me I'm wrong.  On psychedelics nitrous is like instant peaks at your disposal.  What more could you want?


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Re: Psilohuasca Dosage Advice [Re: TheGreenArrow]
    #20067278 - 06/01/14 01:17 AM (6 years, 4 days ago)

I appreciate that you think I can be wrong in my own preferences but I think I know myself a tad better than you do :lol:

But I'm glad you enjoy yourself :thumbup:


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Re: Psilohuasca Dosage Advice [Re: FunkyBuddha]
    #20067860 - 06/01/14 06:50 AM (6 years, 4 days ago)

You're already taking psychedelics... Look my best friend/shaman friend always had the same thing to say to me.  Then one night we dosed and I just handed him the balloon...:mindblown:

It was like I could see the lightning bolt strike.:lol: He literally looked at me and said "Oh, so that's what these are really for!  I always thought combining the two wouldn't be worth it but fucking Wow."  Nitrous is like the jelly to psychedelics' peanut butter.  Its also got one of the most reliable safety profiles and more research done on it than pretty much any other intoxicant in western society besides maybe alcohol.  I'm not trying to say I know your body better than you,  I'm informing you that you are straight missing out, even if you experience it just once, you'll see what the hubub's about. Absolute worst case scenario is you trip really hard for 15 seconds or so. :shrug:  Nitrous and psychedelics are my favorite combo by far.

Trust me they wouldn't let dentists give it out like candy if it were that dangerous.


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invasion, butcher a hog, design a building, conn a ship, write a
sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the
dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve an
equation, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a
computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly.
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