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OfflineIcelos
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First time growing, good idea?
    #2005152 - 10/13/03 02:05 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

im only donig 6 1/2 pint jars right now with the GT.. i was thinking about some trial/error methods since that is the best way to learn (imo).

but i was taking 2 of the jars, and was going to do a casing, then 2 just plain old regular nothing special, then the last 2 try the dunk/roll method.. or should i use dunk/roll for all of them..

btw, the jars were innoculated yesterday so..


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Re: First time growing, good idea? [Re: Icelos]
    #2005163 - 10/13/03 02:09 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

read some faqs. you will be glad you did:)


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Re: First time growing, good idea? [Re: Tomandjerry58]
    #2005194 - 10/13/03 02:19 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

case some. anything else dunk,roll, and double end case.


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Re: First time growing, good idea? [Re: thisone]
    #2005329 - 10/13/03 03:17 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

i agree dunk and roll all the ones you want to fruit as cakes, then make a simple casing of the other 2. just plain verm or verm/coir is even better.

good luck


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Re: First time growing, good idea? [Re: Icelos]
    #2005917 - 10/13/03 06:59 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

i was gonna flame you, but decided against it. you've read enough to have heard of simple cakes, rolled cakes, and cased cakes. all good places to start. try not to mess with them too much when it's time to do those things - spend the next 3 weeks making a nice delivery suite for them  :lol:

but you only knocked em up yesterday! do you have a specific query, or you just want advice on what-all to start with? that, my friend, is up to you to decide. the world is your oyster, north america is your whelk  :nut: 


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Re: First time growing, good idea? [Re: Icelos]
    #2007011 - 10/14/03 01:32 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

My distant friend was in a simular situation, not terribly long ago.
He suggests the following:

avoid rolling/end casing because of the added contamination
hazard during the first grow. Dunking really is simple, dunk after
the 2nd flush. If you botch it, at least you have something to show.

the reason for this is you really want visability, knowing what a healthy cake looks like and how it ages will help you identify contamination. Most of this can be gathered via reading, but nothing beats real experince.

2nd grow, try playing with double end casing, and rolling if you prefer. Vary it up a bit just to see how things play out.

But, its ultimately upto you.







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Re: First time growing, good idea? [Re: bsta1n]
    #2007183 - 10/14/03 02:29 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

If you succeed with the PF tek, I see no reason why you wouldn't be able to pull off a dunk and roll or a casing. Since you're new, my only suggestion would be, "Don't put all of your cakes in one casing."

bsta1n gives some great advice as well, just dunk and you should get good results with minimal risk.

If you are birthing any to cakes, you realy should do the dunk and roll. Even if you screw up a cake or two, your yield should be better than without. If yield is of no concern, birth 'em however you want. They'll even fruit in the jar if you give 'em light.

Experimenting with a small casing is a great idea.

Like Shirley said, it is your choice. Do whatever feels right and let us know how it goes.

You should have plenty of time to study up before you birth.


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Re: First time growing, good idea? [Re: Rose]
    #2007295 - 10/14/03 03:10 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

what I plan on doing for a first grow, is to do a mix of dunk/rolled cakes and some casings. I have 12 widemouth 1/2 pint jars, and 8 regular 1/2 pint jars, So i plan on making 2 casings consisting of 4 reg and 2 widemouth jars, and then dunk/rolling the other 8 widemouths. why do I have regualr and widemouth jars you ask? because the first time i went to go buy jars, i could only find the regulars. I may or may not decide to use a couple jars to try and spawn some straw/poo, because apparently its much better. But I think i will just wait until a second grow attempt. maybe an outdoor patch project in the spring.

P.S. almost all my jars are nearing 100% colonized, and I'm psyched!


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Re: First time growing, good idea? [Re: Icelos]
    #2008014 - 10/14/03 12:12 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

well as a newbie, i wasnt sure what most newcommers start out with.. but i believe i might trying to be perhaps overdoing it or trying to take in too much info at once..
shirley - bascially i wanted to find out and made sure i just wasnt messing anything up and had my stuff somewhat right.. just the paranoia as a newbie always second guessing yourself..

but i was only going to take 2 colozined cakes and wait about 4-5 days after 100% colonized,then breakup and throw into a tray.. so the other 4 i will just do a dunk/roll with just plain verm or maybe even verm/coir .. btw does verm/coir have a noticablly difference compared to just plain verm?
and no, my yield size does not really matter, ofcourse we all would like a big yield, but im doing this more for the learning aspect


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