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dark3st
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Re: 'New age' criticism of psychedelic drugs / What do you think of this? [Re: Psilosopherr]
#19341658 - 12/29/13 01:52 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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. Other people might say that drugs are a doorway, but I don’t see it develop anything. It doesn’t develop equanimity, it doesn’t develop investigation, it doesn’t develop any of the factors of enlightenment.
It sounds like a persuasive technique used by rehabs.
This whole thing is bullshit. I mean for real chakras? That's the most thing I ever read or when people tell me about it in RL I tell them to leave me alone because it is, in fact, bullshit.
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s240779

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Re: 'New age' criticism of psychedelic drugs / What do you think of this? [Re: s240779]
#19341884 - 12/29/13 02:47 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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So, criticizes all psychedelic drugs and then proceeds to say.. "Evidence of neurotoxicity has accumulated for cocaine, amphetamines, ecstasy (MDMA), and Redux (a Prozac-like drug)."
So he says that psychedelic drugs are neurotoxic but doesn't provide any evidence to back up his statement? And he focuses on Redux!? That's not a psychedelic so it's of no importance.
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s240779

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Re: 'New age' criticism of psychedelic drugs / What do you think of this? [Re: s240779]
#20036318 - 05/24/14 09:02 PM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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More:

Source: The Code to The Matrix, p. 92, James Evans Bomar III, 2009 http://realmdynamics.com/pages/our-founder, Scroll down for book.
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TrippingTrees
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Re: 'New age' criticism of psychedelic drugs / What do you think of this? [Re: s240779] 1
#20050330 - 05/28/14 07:38 AM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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Don't give a shit. I'll decide how I develop spiritually, emotionally, and physically. I don't need an outside opinion on how to live my life. It's good to get other perspectives but at the end of the day....I make the choices.
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DiscoBiscuitsTrip


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Re: 'New age' criticism of psychedelic drugs / What do you think of this? [Re: TrippingTrees]
#20050438 - 05/28/14 08:19 AM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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Wtf is a "vital life force energy" if its so vital to my life id be fucked by now haha. And if it has anything to do with physical energy drugs like LSD definitely fill me with a lot of energy about my life and the world around me. Also reaching enlightenment without drugs sounds awesome, but if you were to actually try and do that you would be labelled a crazy person in our western culture. honestly I don't think it would even be possible in our culture, and that's why we have psychedelics because we live in a crazy fast world were meditating and fasting your whole life isn't going to work. Another thing who is this guy to say he knows the answer, is he claiming to have reached enlightenment, no fuck him no one knows the correct answer to questions like these; live in the mystery not everything can be measured and gauged.
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UKMunter
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Re: 'New age' criticism of psychedelic drugs / What do you think of this? [Re: DiscoBiscuitsTrip]
#20050537 - 05/28/14 08:53 AM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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Wow I read enough !! ! I have depression. I have read into this way of looking into well being
http://ayurvedaa2z.com/php/showContent.php?linkid=72#
Have a read of this short Ayurvedaa look.
But of course you have to look at this from a completely different out look in life... It is a nice article and yes it is an eastern look into well being and a very clever understanding of brain activity and chemistry way before science .... .. ^^^ WTF is vital life force .. ^^^^ Check you out dude.. Well done
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DiscoBiscuitsTrip


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Re: 'New age' criticism of psychedelic drugs / What do you think of this? [Re: UKMunter]
#20050573 - 05/28/14 09:07 AM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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Dude i'm a spiritual person but when they start doing shit like this and naming and labeling everything it just makes me think religion, I've taken plenty of psychedelic drugs and mdma, but I take care of myself and go on raw food diets and am vegetarian. I feel better than I ever have, I used to be depressed, have anxiety and all that other stuff and its easy to blame it one some bullshit like this but it simply comes down to taking really good care of yourself, the earth, the good people around you, and staying positive. This new age stuff is getting to be way to much and its just becoming a new religion in our culture. If it helps you then hell yea but the best way to live is to think for yourself and take everything you read on the INTERNET with a grain of salt.
To me the whole new age thing is just like believing healing powers from rocks. I mean like yea its cool and the rocks are pretty but I don't think having one in my pocket is going to do something special for me. I keep them around but its not like I have a serious belief of there powers.
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UKMunter
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Re: 'New age' criticism of psychedelic drugs / What do you think of this? [Re: DiscoBiscuitsTrip]
#20050582 - 05/28/14 09:10 AM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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Superbly said xx
Thank you, and glad you are out of your depression
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DiscoBiscuitsTrip


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Re: 'New age' criticism of psychedelic drugs / What do you think of this? [Re: UKMunter]
#20050626 - 05/28/14 09:24 AM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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Not hating on the New age thing I mean some of its cool and all, but I have to put this here thought it was funny. http://sebpearce.com/bullshit/
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UKMunter
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Re: 'New age' criticism of psychedelic drugs / What do you think of this? [Re: DiscoBiscuitsTrip]
#20050663 - 05/28/14 09:33 AM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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he he ! ok .. I am not into the new age thing at all, nor spiritualism and certainly not religion . Oh bugger I guess im just a junkie who prefers the use of active shrooms to kick my serotonin levels about a bit than SSRI's ....
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DiscoBiscuitsTrip


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Re: 'New age' criticism of psychedelic drugs / What do you think of this? [Re: UKMunter] 1
#20050672 - 05/28/14 09:35 AM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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Junkie? no that's what our society says, the real junkies are the ones taking SSRI's and Opiates. But then again there's no such thing as a bad drug and there's no such thing as a good drug just depends on how your using it.
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Re: 'New age' criticism of psychedelic drugs / What do you think of this? [Re: DiscoBiscuitsTrip]
#20050675 - 05/28/14 09:36 AM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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UKMunter said: Oh bugger I guess im just a junkie who prefers
Interesting. Do you ever use low doses -- using mushrooms for a medication-type effect as opposed to tripping?
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DiscoBiscuitsTrip said: But then again there's no such thing as a bad drug and there's no such thing as a good drug just depends on how your using it.
I definitely think some drugs are down right bad, both natural and synthetic.
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DiscoBiscuitsTrip


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Re: 'New age' criticism of psychedelic drugs / What do you think of this? [Re: s240779]
#20050703 - 05/28/14 09:41 AM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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idk you could say opiates are bad but they really help people with pain, you could say ssri's are bad but they help a lot of people with anxiety if used properly, you could say cocaine is bad but also can be used medically and help people be more social. Its all about the right set, setting, and dosage. I mean there could be a positive use for almost all the mainstream drugs.
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Re: 'New age' criticism of psychedelic drugs / What do you think of this? [Re: DiscoBiscuitsTrip] 1
#20050728 - 05/28/14 09:48 AM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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If people can figure their shit out taking substances, than all of those new agers will have a real hard time selling their books, CDs, crystals and shit. So of course they're gonna bad mouth anything that cuts into their wallet.
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UKMunter
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Re: 'New age' criticism of psychedelic drugs / What do you think of this? [Re: DiscoBiscuitsTrip]
#20050729 - 05/28/14 09:48 AM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hello Da2ra .. Not really..
I have seen this article on facebook too .. I had to comment there as in this case it had touched on a personal level.
I would defo use micro amounts for depression of course !! I love taking larger amounts im not going to turn the opportunity down ! I belive that it would be a great alternitive to SSRI's. But both have the same outcome on comedowns ect... You just get depressed !! > ^^^ Well being is pretty much what Disco buiscuit is saying .. A good diet, a good look into life,, not prozac or active drugs tbh ...
I dont believe for the same reasons that marijuana should be legalised, BUT please lets not go there in this discussion .. !! ha
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UKMunter
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Re: 'New age' criticism of psychedelic drugs / What do you think of this? [Re: UKMunter]
#20050742 - 05/28/14 09:51 AM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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My use of active shrooms, is because its bloody nice .. Not for medicinal or spiritual..
I dont take SSRI's because I know what they do in relation to having shrooms too >> !!
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Re: 'New age' criticism of psychedelic drugs / What do you think of this? [Re: UKMunter]
#20050748 - 05/28/14 09:54 AM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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UKMunter, sho me the facebook page.
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UKMunter
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Re: 'New age' criticism of psychedelic drugs / What do you think of this? [Re: s240779]
#20050766 - 05/28/14 09:59 AM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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oh my .. it was on the shroomery, a week or two back, let me dig !!
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DiscoBiscuitsTrip


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Re: 'New age' criticism of psychedelic drugs / What do you think of this? [Re: UKMunter]
#20050791 - 05/28/14 10:07 AM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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One important lesson I've learned recently going on what Dark Star said is almost everyone is a used car sales man, they all want to sell you there shit so you'll either buy into it with your time or money. So just believe in yourself and question everything.
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UKMunter
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Re: 'New age' criticism of psychedelic drugs / What do you think of this? [Re: UKMunter]
#20050807 - 05/28/14 10:11 AM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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