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Please help newbee to identify
    #2004975 - 10/13/03 12:56 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Please help identify this mushroom I found in Vancouver area. Spore print looks brown to me. Thanks!



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Re: Please help newbee to identify [Re: oversun]
    #2004982 - 10/13/03 12:58 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

are kidding? no picture, and you are just going to tell its brown?


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Re: Please help newbee to identify [Re: Rebirtha]
    #2004986 - 10/13/03 12:59 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Sorry - first time on the forum - now fixed.


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Re: Please help newbee to identify [Re: oversun]
    #2005403 - 10/13/03 03:36 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Please compare the brown to have to something everybody might know. For example, is it darker or lighter than cinnamon?

Are the caps as slimy as they look?

What were they growing on?

At first glance they look like a Stropharia species.

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Re: Please help newbee to identify [Re: oversun]
    #2005410 - 10/13/03 03:39 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Most likely Stropharia caerulea or Stropharia aeruginosa.  Some classify them in the genus Psilocybe but they're inactive AFAIK.  They look cool though :smile: .

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Re: Please help newbee to identify [Re: ToxicMan]
    #2005495 - 10/13/03 04:09 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

will try with my english :smile: spore print a little bit darker then cinnamon - light purplish-brown i would say.
the caps is very slimy with blue-green gelatinous pellicle.
they were growing on leaf litter in a park.
i've checked some descriptions on stropharia and they quite match.
btw it says that they edible in Europe so may be i should just eat them :smile:
thanks a lot guys. 


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Re: Please help newbee to identify [Re: spores]
    #2005497 - 10/13/03 04:10 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

the two on the left look like weilii.. but you live in vancouver so they aren't.


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Re: Please help newbee to identify [Re: Rebirtha]
    #2005822 - 10/13/03 06:24 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

I wouldn't eat them...

From http://www.bluewillowpages.com/mushroomexpert/stropharia_aeruginosa.html
"Stropharia aeruginosa is listed as "suspect" and "not recommended" in field guides; however, Lincoff (1992) says that although it "has long been suspected of being poisonous . . . there is no evidence to support this belief" (726). I'm certainly not going to recommend it--and anyway, it's so slimy that I can't imagine it would make very pleasant eating."

They didn't smell good at all last I found some either...

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Re: Please help newbee to identify [Re: spores]
    #2006489 - 10/13/03 10:31 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

I will not - thanks DethHed.


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Re: Please help newbee to identify [Re: spores]
    #2006613 - 10/13/03 11:08 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Won't most guides list a psilocybin containing mushroom as being poisonous?
These look a lot like the tentative Ps. Caerulipes Ganja found last season ganjas caerulipes


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Re: Please help newbee to identify [Re: @cro]
    #2006654 - 10/13/03 11:18 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Well, I referred to Psilocybin Mushrooms of the World as well, which says "Activity suspected but not known." then later "Analyses of specimens from Washington found no psilocybin or psilocin. I know of people who have eaten this species with no effects.  In Europe it is thought to be edible.  Since the consumability of this species is questioned, caution is advised until the biochemistry of this species is studied further".  I found some last year at a very large expanse of woodchips you have been to :lipsrsealed:.  Pretty positive they're the same species.  These don't bruise blue, they grow that color.

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Re: Please help newbee to identify [Re: spores]
    #2006684 - 10/13/03 11:29 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

i do not beleive this species [or relatives] to be active at all.
i i have heard speculation that the enzyme suspected for ozidizing the psilocybian conpounds in acitve species may also be present in this species and merely oxidize other compounds to produce the blueing effect.


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Attn PWN hunters: If you should come across a bluing Psilocybe matching P. pellicolusa please smell it.
If you detect a scent reminiscent of Anethole (anise) please preserve a specimen or two for study and please PM me.


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Re: Please help newbee to identify [Re: spores]
    #2006685 - 10/13/03 11:29 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Fair enough. I didn't mean to suggest consumption or anything just that they have such a psilocybe look to them. Do you know of any other active chemicals that would stain blue and have an appearance such as this?
- @cro

Edit thanks concrete, I guess that'll answer it.


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