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First grow COMPLETE! Now onto MONOTUB (need some advice!!)
    #20035646 - 05/24/14 05:49 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

Hey guys, first time poster, been reading for a few months now,

I check this cultivation board everyday for hints and tips, and to observe what and what not to do when cultivating.

I am using the PF Tek w/ BRF Cakes as my first go, as it was the one that appealed to a beginner the most. I got a few spore prints, and decided to go ahead with a GT print into a spore syringe, and inoculate 12 1/2 pint jars.

I used the correct mixture, and it colonized perfectly! Took about 3 weeks to fully colonize, and then I left it for an additional week for consolidation as advised by the Tek guide :smile:

I proceeded to dunk them for 24 hours, then roll them in verm, andplace them in my SGFC. I have drilled many holes in a grid-like fashion with a 6mm drill bit (1/4" for you guys), and put about 4cm of hydrated perlite in the bottom, and the cakes on top of that with jar lids as a barrier.

My humidity is constantly around 93-94%, and a temp is a stable 22 degC, fluctuating +/- 2 degC for day/night. It is sitting in my room as pictured, so it gets a 12/12 cycle as per our normal daylight/night hours.

I mist twice a day (this is where my concerns come from), and fan 3 times a day. Up until yesterday, I was misting the shit outta them. Pretty heavy handed I must admit. And then I started to notice a bit of fluffy stuff growing through the verm, and it looks to me like it could be aerial mycelium. Now I am no expert, hence coming here for advice. I also do not know what knotting looks like, and because I haven't seen a pin before, I don't think I will be able to identify it until the mushroom actually starts to grow!

They have been in the chamber for 6 days now.

The pictures are below!

PC'ing/inoculating:




Mycelium!




Fully colonised/consolidated:




Dunking for 24 hours:




How they have been sitting for a week @ 22 degC/93% humidity:




How they look:




Up close. Too much misting??




And the others:





Advice on how to proceed? Stop misting so much? Mist more? Fan more? Fan less?

Am I hyping myself up over things that aren't actually wrong, and I should just chill the fuck out and wait for stuff to happen?

Thanks guys!

Edited by deeunit (07/10/14 08:29 PM)

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Re: First grow, few concerns, need reassurance/advice :) [Re: deeunit]
    #20035681 - 05/24/14 05:55 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

I think they look fine buddy!


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Re: First grow, few concerns, need reassurance/advice :) [Re: TheApprentice]
    #20035839 - 05/24/14 06:32 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

that SGFC will work much better if its out of that corner tucked away.  u want it exposed to ambient air on all sides, including the bottom, so elevating it with something like a milk crate or 4 jars is good.


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Re: First grow, few concerns, need reassurance/advice :) [Re: blindingleaf]
    #20035917 - 05/24/14 06:58 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

Your perlite layer is a little thin, which means it'll be prone to drying out.  That's not a huge problem.  It just means you're going to have to keep sticking your finger in it and checking it, and also hose it down in the shower a few more times when it gets dry.

You used the wrong jars, but you got away with it.  Good on you.  :thumbup:

Those cakes look nice and healthy, and you should continue treating them just as you are.


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Re: First grow, few concerns, need reassurance/advice :) [Re: Psilicon]
    #20035947 - 05/24/14 07:12 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

I can't tell for sure but it looks like you don't have holes at your perlite level or on the lid, is this the case?

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Re: First grow, few concerns, need reassurance/advice :) [Re: Mdahmer]
    #20035971 - 05/24/14 07:24 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Mdahmer said:
I can't tell for sure but it looks like you don't have holes at your perlite level or on the lid, is this the case?




Hey,

Thanks for the replies so far! I have elevated the SGFC so it is now not sitting below the level of the surrounding area, now it is well above, so should give better air flow.

Yeah, I don't have holes below the perlite level (main reason is because I don't want to run an additional tray under the SGFC, ease of use purposes), and I also don't have holes in the lid. Should I drill holes in the lid?

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Re: First grow, few concerns, need reassurance/advice :) [Re: deeunit]
    #20035988 - 05/24/14 07:32 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

Yes, and also below the level of the perlite.  It's imperative that every surface be covered with holes.


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Re: First grow, few concerns, need reassurance/advice :) [Re: deeunit]
    #20035991 - 05/24/14 07:33 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

Yea and he holes at the perlite level are probably the most important, well they all are but it allows air to be drawn up through it thereby humidifying the chamber. Once you drain your perlite it doesn't drip and doesn't really fall out through the holes especially wth course perlite. Or use a window screen on the bottom inside

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Re: First grow, few concerns, need reassurance/advice :) [Re: Mdahmer]
    #20036014 - 05/24/14 07:40 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

Cool, I've gone ahead and drilled the holes in the lid, will have to look at doing the holes at the bottom once the first flush (hopefully!) is successful!

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Re: First grow, few concerns, need reassurance/advice :) [Re: deeunit]
    #20036034 - 05/24/14 07:47 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

The first flush isn't going to happen unless you get holes in the bottom of that FC.


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Re: First grow, few concerns, need reassurance/advice :) [Re: deeunit]
    #20036066 - 05/24/14 07:54 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

You really need to drill the holes in the bottom as soon as possible. I was concerned too about perlite falling out, but very little, if any does.

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Re: First grow, few concerns, need reassurance/advice :) [Re: Psilicon]
    #20036091 - 05/24/14 07:59 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

Alrighty, so I've gone ahead and drilled 14 more holes on the bottom, and as many on the top. Also, continued the grid pattern down all 4 sides to go below the level of the perlite, not stop at the level of the perlite like it did previously.

Thanks for all the advice team!

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Re: First grow, few concerns, need reassurance/advice :) [Re: deeunit]
    #20036102 - 05/24/14 08:02 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

Excellent!  With those holes in the bottom, air will be free to circulate up through the wet perlite, bringing FAE as well as moist air up to surround your cakes.  That's what you need to trigger pinning.  :thumbup:


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Re: First grow, few concerns, need reassurance/advice :) [Re: Psilicon]
    #20039051 - 05/25/14 03:31 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

Sweet, so after making the holes in the bottom and the top, the humidity is the highest its been @ 98%, and things are looking up!

Ill keep ya'll posted when exciting things start to happen :smile:

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Re: First grow, few concerns, need reassurance/advice :) [Re: deeunit]
    #20039163 - 05/25/14 04:09 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

nice!! proof positive the mechanics behind the SGFC work well!  you will end up using it a lot in the future too for small bulk trays and isolate/clone testing small cakes or bulk substrates


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Re: First grow, few concerns, need reassurance/advice :) [Re: blindingleaf]
    #20039631 - 05/25/14 07:00 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

:whathesaid:  If you get into monotubs you'll be tempted to toss it, but don't!  It'll come back in handy if you decide to pick up exotics.


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Re: First grow, few concerns, need reassurance/advice :) [Re: Psilicon]
    #20081552 - 06/04/14 03:50 AM (10 years, 7 months ago)

Alrighty guys, an update!

So about 5 days a go I saw the first pins! It was crazy, I wasn't even looking for them, just staring at the cakes, and saw some odd coloured bits of verm, which turned out to be pins breaking through the surface!

And as the pictures that follow will show, a fair few decided to come on through! Being my first grow, I'm pretty fricken happy with how everything has turned out so far.

Totally going to give tubs a go next!









Regarding the second to last pic, the two most prevailing mushrooms seem to be heading down towards the perlite. I would have thought that they would head up (towards light, oxygen etc). Should I be concerned about this? Or should I leave them be?

Cheers!

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Re: First grow, few concerns, need reassurance/advice :) [Re: deeunit]
    #20086295 - 06/04/14 11:25 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

bump regarding the question!

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Re: First grow, few concerns, need reassurance/advice :) [Re: deeunit]
    #20086313 - 06/04/14 11:29 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

Sorry I missed the question there.  No, do not be concerned, and do not try to point them in any direction other than the one they want to point in.

It's very possible they get a little perlite embedded in their caps.  Let them dig their faces into it as much as they want--you can just rub it off at harvest time without any problems.  The cakes do look a bit too moist, though.  I'd let them dry out completely before misting again.

That one cluster is pretty gorgeous, by the way.  :super:


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Re: First grow, few concerns, need reassurance/advice :) [Re: Psilicon]
    #20086382 - 06/04/14 11:46 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

:whathesaid: hell of a job man:congrats:(now lets do some grains and agar noob:awelol:)


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