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How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Full ISO Extraction! (PICS) Complete!!! 4
#20027409 - 05/22/14 10:27 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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So I peeled 4 feet of Bridgesii cuttings today, and all I can say is, what a MASSIVE pain in the ass! I spent the first 30-45 minutes struggling with the wax like skin on the outside of the flesh, so I figured I'd post a picture example, as I couldn't find one for the life of me on the internet as to what was meant by the skin. I actually didn't realize it was just a wax like layer over a fleshy green, for some reason I thought the outside 1/4-1/2" was supposed to be discarded which didn't seem right.
Aaaanyways, I sliced the cutting lengthwise right on the crease in the valleys down to the core, then just peeled / cut out the core from the slices themselves. The first 30-45 minutes I was peeling small 1" strips at a time, one slice taking 15-20 minutes to complete, but I did not want to resort to a peeler or knife to save time but sacrifice flesh (which I contemplated for a moment in my darkest hour of peeling). After so long, I realized that peeling it length wise right on the edges and rolling the skin up towards the spines was extremely efficient, as so:

It's a very thin layer of skin, so the further down you can peel the edge the more surface room you have to leverage the peeling
I found that once I got into a groove, I could clear one half of the section in 2-3 minutes each, then had to do a bit of maintenance around the spines and at the tips. I also found that cold shocking them by filling up a sink with ice water, and letting them soak for 20 minutes, made it much easier to work with as it crispened up the skin quite a bit (it was very soft at ambient temp). I have not done anything with the little holes where the spines were yet, as my peeling nails hurt like hell, and am not sure if it's even worth the effort to dig them out. So here is the haul:

A pain in the ass to skin, but a labor of love
So I was going to ask those experienced with such preparation, what you think of the amount of white flesh left on those strips? The ones that you can see the white strips of flesh, most of them are about the same, the core on Bridgesii seems much smaller than San Pedro. I feel like they are pretty well groomed in terms of the core and white flesh, but I always welcome second opinions, here is a closer pic:

Omnomnomnomnom
So right now they are in the freezer, thinking I may give them two of those shocks to hopefully improve the extraction, and I'm not quite sure what to do with the stuff that apparently oozes out. I was going to just rinse it off the bottom of the container with iso that I'll be pouring into the jars with the dried cactus for extraction, just to keep everything as even strength as possible. Please feel free to let me know if there is groovier uses for it 

Never thought it would be Bridgesii that finally gave me my green thumb!
And that is all I have to say about that, hopefully this helps those who have yet to experience the joys of peeling 4 freekin feet of cacti!
  
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: c1dh3d]
#20027616 - 05/22/14 11:27 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Good job man! The pic that shows the waxy skin is great. I read a lot of threads where people are confused about what the skin is. That picture clearly shows what the skin is.
When you freeze, save the juice in the container and use it in your extraction as well. Those cucumber strips look yummy in an ironic way.
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: c1dh3d]
#20027636 - 05/22/14 11:30 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Nice pictorial. yep the good old green thumb
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: nicechrisman]
#20028135 - 05/23/14 01:34 AM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Why do you peel your cacti?
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: healing]
#20028605 - 05/23/14 06:07 AM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Thanks for the props dudes, I plan on throwing some pics of the extraction process up as well since I've already documented the fun part 
I wondered that too healing, thought maybe people preferred less junk material to work with, but it became apparent after peeling enough off that it was a fantastic natural barrier to protect that delicious flesh It was also apparent that the green flesh was only about 1/4-1/2" thick under the skin, and the skin is so thin but sooo sturdy, I'd have had to use a pearing knife if anything to peel.
It came close to me just skinning the last couple with a knife, as my finger nails hurt like hell after cutting #2, but I just couldn't live with myself had I destroyed two cuttings by lopping a ton of the green flesh off.
Anyways, gonna yank them out of freezer and head to work, glad you guys dug the pics of the skin - I really was happy I found a great peeling method to ease the process a bit!
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: c1dh3d]
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: c1dh3d]
#20030833 - 05/23/14 03:08 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Nice! Looking forward to more on this.
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: Nature Boy]
#20031125 - 05/23/14 04:31 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yah! Good job man!
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: healing]
#20031209 - 05/23/14 04:53 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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healing said: Why do you peel your cacti?
I think the waxy skin might add to nausea. At least I noticed considerably more nausea with tea made from whole cactus than when I ate strips like the ones pictured above. That could have come from the core though.
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: c1dh3d]
#20031284 - 05/23/14 05:13 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: s240779]
#20040597 - 05/25/14 10:47 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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So after a good weekend away, excited to thaw out my cactus sickles from their second freeze/thaw cold shock, and get them in front of the fan. One thing I would advise which is probably pretty obvious once you start working with the thawed material, is to lightly squeeze the cactus over the contain to get the excess juices out. I didn't do this on the first few I pulled out and cut up in pieces, and noticed quickly that a good amount of juice soaked the news paper immediately, and was actually still dripping out of the catci chunks. Here is a picture to illustrate the amount of cactus juice we are talking:

Freezing and thawing produced a hell of a lot of cactus goo, and those strips are loaded with it as well

Cut the cactus up and slapped it into an old fruiting chamber with some newspaper, and in front of the fan it goes
Those strips were so water logged I had to ring them out for 2-3 minutes each, but eventually once I got into a groove I'd pick up a few at a time to ring out cut into chunks for drying. I poured all this liquid into a large mason jar, which will hold the isopropyl alcohol and dried cactus matter, for the sake of keeping all finalized product of the extraction equal in strength. Here are a couple pics of the haul in terms of cacti goo:

The liquid filled up to almost the 1.5 pint mark of this 5 pin mason jar

I would imagine slamming the liquid in this jar would be one HELL of a ride!
Very tempting to try a small sip, I will not lie The liquid actually did not smell too bad at all either, which surprised me a bit, that it smelled of fresh plant matter and not dead skunk nuts or whatever the tea tastes like, but I'm sure its still bitter. That cactus is amazingly juicy as well, even after ringing them out a bit, they were still oozing water in the dry chamber.
I don't have any specific iso extract procedure to follow yet, I just knew I had to get to this point, so I'll be checking that out tomorrow as I'm hoping the chunks will be dried by tomorrow night (though realistically I could see it taking til Tues / Weds).
That is all for now, if anyone wants to link to a tek they've used to check out for powdered dry cactus material I'd appreciate it, all suggestions welcome! I will update once extraction time comes around, I can hardly wait to begin that process, I love the process of creating something so beautiful 
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: c1dh3d]
#20040617 - 05/25/14 10:51 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yeah the meltwater isn't too bad for drinking. I know one guy that's all he does.
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: nicechrisman]
#20040764 - 05/25/14 11:29 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Would it be better to keep the melt water in liquid form and drink it up, or will an iso extract just reduce the volume with all the same goodies, if you know or have an opinion?
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: c1dh3d] 1
#20040771 - 05/25/14 11:30 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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You can simply reduce that meltwater to tar. No need for iso. You could use iso on the remaining plant material to extract the rest of the goodies out though.
I would use the iso for the plant material, reduce to resin, and take the resin and then drink the meltwater. Or you can just drink the meltwater by itself if you used enough cactus.
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: nicechrisman]
#20042340 - 05/26/14 10:58 AM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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What dehydrating substance could you put in a mescaline containing liquid such as tea,, that would absorb the water for the most part and leave most of the mescaline as a residue? That would be interesting
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
#20042443 - 05/26/14 11:24 AM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Right now a big hurdle for me is drying out the chunks of cactus strip, as they are so juicy they are barely drying, and I'd hate for these things to rot while I'm trying to dry them out.
I did put them in a much larger container with new newspaper this morning and kicked the fan on speed up to high, but they still seem to be pretty plump and exuding juices, but I plan to give them a bit longer under the fan before I resort to more drastic measures.
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: c1dh3d]
#20042568 - 05/26/14 12:00 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Could you press (and collect) the juice out of those strips with a big rock or a rolling pin or something?
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: flickedbic]
#20042603 - 05/26/14 12:09 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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After taking a closer look at what's going on, it looks like the smaller ones dried fine, and the biggers ones are in fact slowly starting to dry (at least on the outside). I don't know if you'd want to squeeze all the juices out, so I'm hoping the chunkies start drying out fully soon here.
The next step will be to cut them up further, but they are so squishy and slimey right now, if I try that I'm going to in advertently lose more juices handling them. Right now they are starting to dry up a bit, so I'm going to keep that fan rocking on high and see what happens.
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
#20043018 - 05/26/14 02:05 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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MagicalOrangutan said: What dehydrating substance could you put in a mescaline containing liquid such as tea,, that would absorb the water for the most part and leave most of the mescaline as a residue? That would be interesting
Cool concept.
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: KingKnowledge]
#20043079 - 05/26/14 02:21 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Make "chromatography balls" that can be added to the liquid and shaken to absorb the unnessential.
Maybe one could make a tar of the tea to lose water, rehydrate in alcohol or some easily evaporated liquid solvent for after the chromatography balls are removed?
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: flickedbic]
#20043139 - 05/26/14 02:45 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Since I've switched to a new container and kicked the fan on high, they are all starting to dry out now pretty quickly, even the fat juicy ones are starting to shrink up a bit. Hoping they will be ready for the extraction phase tomorrow night, ready to keep this project rollin
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: c1dh3d]
#20043878 - 05/26/14 06:39 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Cidhead, use a food dehydrator. Cut cactus into half centimeter segments and put in dehydrator or in any case, small pieces of some sort and put in dehydrator for at least 5 hours but no longer than 8-9 hours unless it's a really shitty dehydrator. Then proceed to thank me :P
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
#20043895 - 05/26/14 06:43 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yeah I saw lots of people suggesting a dehydrator on other threads around the web, but didn't want to spend the money. Fortunately I believe I just clumped all of them too close in the first dry chamber in the pic, and now that they're spread out and the fan is on high, they are actually all close to dry
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: c1dh3d]
#20044085 - 05/26/14 07:25 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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I wonder how well it'd work to just juice/tea cactus, then put the mescaline containing water on a few large pans to where the water was spread over a large area and was only a millimeter or less deep, then put all that under a few large fans in the hot sun. Talk about an easy alkaloid extraction? Hmm
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
#20044116 - 05/26/14 07:34 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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yo add this to your sig
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: c1dh3d]
#20044193 - 05/26/14 07:51 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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You can dry them in the oven on a very low setting with the door cracked open.
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: nicechrisman]
#20044267 - 05/26/14 08:06 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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The people I live with were a bit touchy about prolonged use of oven / stove this time around, so I unfortunately didn't have the oven available unless it was a last resort sort of thing, I'd definitely ratger take complaints than rot my cactus.
However I think once the fan was able to dry the goo off the newspaper, the cactus dried pretty quickly, I'm thinking they will be 100% dry by the time I'm ready to rock tomorrow afternoon. I'd be interested as well to just see if freeze / thawing over and over would thoroughly extract alkaloids, I'll have to try that out I do believe.
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: c1dh3d]
#20048647 - 05/27/14 07:49 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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So I have been a busy little beaver today.
So I decided after looking at this every different way possible of how to keep potency equal in doses from the different types of extract I will be getting, that I will be reducing the cactus juice from the freeze/thaw shocks I gave it (meltwater), and once it is reduced start taking pulls from the iso extraction and mix them in the same pan to finish reducing all of it together.
From what I have read and been told, the meltwater takes about 3-4 days to reduce to a tar, and the first pull of iso extract is ideally around the 3 day mark - So once the meltwater is getting to a slimy texture I will begin executing pulls from the extract jar and adding it to the same pan and mixing it all together into a big pile of awesomeness.
So first thing first I got the meltwater right in front of a fan to reduce:

It's hard to believe this will evap in a few days, but I am crossing my fingers the timing works out
With that in the works, time to go to town on my now cracker dry cacti chunkers:

I'm pretty sure cactus are made of 90+% water with the volume / weight they lost
So the only thing I had to grind these up unfortunately outside of a mortar and pestle (which wasn't happening) was a blender, so in the blender they went, and got powdered as best I could:

Looked just like a pile of kief hash, mmmmm
Another nice pic of the stash, I really liked the way it looked:

Transferred it to this for easier handling for weighing, and needed a second pic!
Now this part I was kind of surprised at, cause these things had to weigh 3-4 pounds when they were stripped of the core and sliced up, and after drying and powdering I am not sure if this is a good amount to be left with - If anyone has experience please feel free to chime in. Check it out:

66.2 grams, but there was plenty of leftover in the blender I washed out with iso, probably another gram
So I took the powder and threw it in the big ass jar that once held the meltwater, used the iso to wash out the blender, then poured that into the jar of powdered cactus and proceeded to shake the living shit out of it. I think I got carried away, and shook it for about 10 minutes out of joy, but I finally let it settle and it came out looking a lot like this:

That is a sight for sore eyes right there my friends
If anyone has any questions, comments, concerns, compliments, complaints, naked pics of girlfriends, cash donations, or anything else to add please post it up!
I'll be updating again somewhere around the weekend with the next step in the process, unfortunately the timing means no dosing any this weekend, but I should be close to actually having doses!! Woo!!!
  
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: c1dh3d]
#20048880 - 05/27/14 08:54 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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You don't need to dry it before doing alcohol soak. You can just throw the wet strips into the blender with alcohol.
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: nicechrisman]
#20049050 - 05/27/14 09:37 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Ah shit I will have to remember that for next time, is there literally no difference at all between using dried and fresh cactus? I did read your tek in your sig, and noticed it wasn't an iso extract, which was what I was really gunning for this time around.
Also, I went to go shake my jar again, and it's already looking pretty damn ready for a pull:

The meltwater is actually already quite noticeably reduced to my surprise, so hopefully thing will be wrapping up sooner than expected
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: c1dh3d]
#20049097 - 05/27/14 09:48 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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I don't know if there's a difference, but a good friend of mine consistently makes some very fine resin by using thawed cactus blended with everclear. Lets it sit a few days stirring occasionally then filters and evaps.
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: c1dh3d]
#20049231 - 05/27/14 10:25 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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That 66.2 grams should be potent. I had a trip with about 30 dried grams of whole gesii and it knocked my ego flat. I had another with just 20 grams from the same batch and it was still quite strong. Since you pealed and cored, I think there is quite a bit of magic in there.
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: nicechrisman]
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Thanks for your careful documentation of your process OP; you have inspired me to start my own alcohol extraction. I was thinking of forgoing drying the strips before blending and then doing alcohol extraction. Only down side i can see to that approach is that you will have more water in your first pull, which simply means it will take longer to evaporate. We can compare notes when I finish my extraction. I'm going to get started on removing the core and the skin tonight. I've got 12 pounds to work with!
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: TravelingTraveler]
#20049396 - 05/27/14 11:13 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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physicist said: That 66.2 grams should be potent. I had a trip with about 30 dried grams of whole gesii and it knocked my ego flat. I had another with just 20 grams from the same batch and it was still quite strong. Since you pealed and cored, I think there is quite a bit of magic in there. 
Man that is so awesome to hear, I'm really looking forward to the final product, the tea I made was so awful it turned me off to mescaline for years. I kind of burnt myself out on shrooms, then acid, so it's really nice to be excited for an experience. Think my first trip may be on an upcoming vacation too, place I've always wanted to go, couldn't think of a better time or place for the experience 
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TravelingTraveler said: Thanks for your careful documentation of your process OP; you have inspired me to start my own alcohol extraction. I was thinking of forgoing drying the strips before blending and then doing alcohol extraction. Only down side i can see to that approach is that you will have more water in your first pull, which simply means it will take longer to evaporate. We can compare notes when I finish my extraction. I'm going to get started on removing the core and the skin tonight. I've got 12 pounds to work with! 
You are very welcome, and I'm glad it inspired you! The main reasons for posting up the step by step with pics, is to visually illustrate how easy extraction can be aside from the usual boiling down blended cactus into a horrid drink, and to get people pumped to try their own extractions by posting a bunch of mouth watering pictures 
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: c1dh3d]
#20049403 - 05/27/14 11:15 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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I would use a pyrex pan instead of that metal one if I were you.
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: Nemodeus]
#20049461 - 05/27/14 11:37 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yah Pyrex is way easier to get the tar off of. With metal you can actually take some of the metal off the pans with the tar if you scrape too hard
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: nicechrisman]
#20049956 - 05/28/14 03:52 AM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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nicechrisman said: I don't know if there's a difference, but a good friend of mine consistently makes some very fine resin by using thawed cactus blended with everclear. Lets it sit a few days stirring occasionally then filters and evaps.
So...let me get this straight. Your friend's process is freeze, thaw, freeze, thaw, blend with everclear, filter, evaporate everclear leaving behind tar?
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: Nature Boy]
#20049976 - 05/28/14 04:04 AM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yeah. Usually we'll take the tar balls and then drink the meltwater. You can also reduce the meltwater a bit, or you can combine the meltwater with the strained everclear and reduce the whole works into a tar. There's lots of options.
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: nicechrisman]
#20049987 - 05/28/14 04:13 AM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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This is some mad scientist shit. Why not just freeze, thaw, boil, strain and evaporate?
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: healing]
#20050321 - 05/28/14 07:35 AM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Thanks for the heads up on the Pyrex, I didn't even consider that I might shave off some metal scraps.
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: healing]
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healing said: This is some mad scientist shit. Why not just freeze, thaw, boil, strain and evaporate?
that is another method that works too
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: nicechrisman]
#20053801 - 05/28/14 10:50 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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So after reading some of your advice regarding using a pyrex pan earlier today, I came home to the meltwater solidified into a 1/8" sheet of indestructable cacti plastic and fused to the bottom of the pan:

You can only see a tint of brown, and some of the dried out spots are pronounced in the picture, but that shit bonded to the pan. I tried going at it a bit with a razor, and the blade will not even budge, I did not foresee it turning into a rock hard plastic and fusing to the damn pan at all I don't think a pyrex pan would have made much difference with this situation either, that stuff would have fused into a glass pan all the same, and the razor literally could not move once stuck into the dried extract.
Anyone know if alcohol might dissolve this back down so I can work with it? Or maybe heating it back up with some water and stirring it around? Huge lesson learned here, I'll be watching the actual extract dry like a hawk, thank you a ton for suggesting a pyrex now and saving me the disappointment of shaving metal off with the tar.
This stuff sort of reminds me of the Cheech and Chong weed-mobile from up in smoke, they could have used this cactus extract for the windows and windshield. Fuuuuuck!
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: c1dh3d]
#20053888 - 05/28/14 11:04 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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From what I've found around the net, looks like I'm just going to have to get a pair of pliers and that razor, and just go to town while trying to dig up as little of the pan as possible. If anyone has any other ideas I'd definitely welcome them, but it looks like me and this pan have a date all night tomorrow.
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: c1dh3d]
#20053908 - 05/28/14 11:08 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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i am thinking you could heat that goo to melt a bit for easier gathering. not sure of this, but things expand with heat. if someone seconds this...
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: c1dh3d]
#20053912 - 05/28/14 11:09 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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You said earlier that your roommates weren't keen on you taking up the oven for hours, but if you can get away with using it for an hour or two i would try adding a thin layer of water to the pan and then putting it in the oven on low for an hour or two and then stirring it when you take it out. If that fails, you can always just evaporate the water and you'd be back to where you are now- date night with razor and pliers.
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: TravelingTraveler]
#20054281 - 05/29/14 01:08 AM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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I agree with the above poster, but you should use as much water as possible and cover the pan with plastic wrap to keep the water from evaporating while it's in the oven at the lowest possible setting.
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: healing]
#20054572 - 05/29/14 03:25 AM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Attempts at mechanical removal should be your last option. Don't get too impatient at this point...there's too much time, material and effort that's been invested.
Don't put plastic wrap in the oven...if it melts (easy to do) not only will you have bad fumes, you'll ruin your project. Insulate the bottom of the pan with five or more layers of plain ol' newspaper. Boil a small quantity of water and pour it into the pan. Cover with one layer of aluminum foil for FIVE minutes. Your goal is to keep the water as warm as possible for as LONG as possible.
Following this, try scraping gently with a butter knife. Nothing that will dig into the pan. Save the water. If it works, repeat until done, collecting all the water, and re-evaporate. If not, report back and we'll try something else.
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: Nature Boy]
#20054617 - 05/29/14 03:46 AM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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SO the reason for the pyrex is so that if you gotta really dig it off the pan your not taking metal shavings with it. In my experience sitting the pan in some hot water and spraying with a bottle mister just a TINY bit of water really helps goo it up a bit then ill throw a light layer of flour on it and get to scraping. Works just fine for me then i throw it in the freezer in a tupperware. Report back with your results !
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: Nature Boy]
#20054625 - 05/29/14 03:49 AM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Nature Boy said: Attempts at mechanical removal should be your last option. Don't get too impatient at this point...there's too much time, material and effort that's been invested.
Don't put plastic wrap in the oven...if it melts (easy to do) not only will you have bad fumes, you'll ruin your project. Insulate the bottom of the pan with five or more layers of plain ol' newspaper. Boil a small quantity of water and pour it into the pan. Cover with one layer of aluminum foil for FIVE minutes. Your goal is to keep the water as warm as possible for as LONG as possible.
Following this, try scraping gently with a butter knife. Nothing that will dig into the pan. Save the water. If it works, repeat until done, collecting all the water, and re-evaporate. If not, report back and we'll try something else.
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: healing]
#20054930 - 05/29/14 06:37 AM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Thanks for the replies, I'll see if I can soften it up ASAP. The whole roommate thing isn't a big deal at all, I like to keep everything out of sight and mind of others, but if it's needed to salvage my project then no big deal at all.
I'm going to try the setting it in hot water and misting it idea, and if I can loosen it up enough, I'm going to dump it in a pyrex and take the first pull off the extract and throw it in the mix. If that doesn't work I'll add some boiling water in to see if that loosens it. If anyone else has a suggestion let me know, otherwise I'll be executing this rescue operation this morning and report back.
This is going to be one comprehensive extraction thread by the time this is finished!
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: c1dh3d]
#20055074 - 05/29/14 07:37 AM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Success! I boiled some water and put it in a larger pan before setting the cactus pan in that, and also spread a layer of the hot water on top, and it turned back into liquid 
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: c1dh3d]
#20055317 - 05/29/14 09:36 AM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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WHEW!!! Good save! I am genuinely happy it worked out. It was smart for you to ask for advice. It was even smarter of you to follow it! 
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: Nature Boy]
#20055879 - 05/29/14 11:54 AM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Happy to hear that it worked out! If you were to do it again, how would you avoid this problem? Collect the tar a bit earlier, while it is still damp and then maybe dry it further once it's already collected? I'll be starting my extraction and evaporation in the next week and want to learn from your trials and tribulations
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: TravelingTraveler]
#20056694 - 05/29/14 03:03 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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I'm glad you fixed it, c1dh3d. This thread is becoming more and more useful.
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: healing] 1
#20057142 - 05/29/14 04:39 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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As mentioned earlier, I had a near-fail moment with my meltwater, as it turned to a solid plastic layer in the pan it was evaporating in. Turns out the it melts like butter under very hot water, so it was loose and transferred to a pyrex pan in no time, and the nice thing was that the plant material (crusty looking stuff in the pic) stuck to the pan and got left behind - so essentially having to remelt and evap the meltwater turned out a positive! After 90 minutes in the oven to reduce it back down, used the stove to gain back some lost time in this process, it was ready to rock:

This was still somewhat liquid / gel, wanted to be able to mix it with the extract in a moment
As you can see this project is ready to rock, with the turkey baster and extraction jar right next to the container, and the fresh iso to add back into the extraction jar. By this time, the extract was such a dark green it almost looked black:

Notice the cactus powder appears noticeably lighter, I assume that will be a bleach white by the third pull
And with that, it was time to add the first pull of extract for reduction:

Quite a bit of extract, mixed thoroughly with the reduced meltwater, notice the new iso is already turning green

Reduced it about 1/2" so it is slimey, but still liquid, and can be easily mixed with the next pull
As you can see in the picture above, I reduced it about half an inch in that picture to the point one corner was drying out, then ceased the evap for the next pull to be mixed in. It was VERY tempting to continue the evap for another hour and have my score, but I am really die hard about consistency of these doses, not only to be able to gauge the effects of a dosage but also so I don't have some shitty doses left at the end from the 2nd or 3rd pull that may not have as many alkaloids. So for this, I got some heavy duty aluminum foil, and creased it down over the edges of the pan to contain the alcohol / prevent it from evaporating:

As can be seen, only 2 hours later at most, and new alcohol in the extraction jar almost looks ready for a pull - I am loving this!
So now I shake the shit out of that jar for 24 hours and wait for the next pull, evap down to that level again so it's still liquid and can be mixed with next extract, and take one final pull of that glorious cactus before it is time to collect the goods and measure out doses!
Thank you again to everyone for contributing to the success of this extract!!
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: TravelingTraveler]
#20057216 - 05/29/14 04:58 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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TravelingTraveler said: Happy to hear that it worked out! If you were to do it again, how would you avoid this problem? Collect the tar a bit earlier, while it is still damp and then maybe dry it further once it's already collected? I'll be starting my extraction and evaporation in the next week and want to learn from your trials and tribulations 
I am really glad my mistakes along the way is already helping others! I'm sure you will run into your own unforeseen hurdles, but knowing the 'oh shits' of the process can help reduce those hurdles dramatically, and that is why I figured I'd post up this step by step process - victories along with the mistakes! 
When it comes time, I will be watching the final extraction from liquid to tar like a hawk, as I imagine especially with iso it can go from liquid to a solid extremely quick if your not checking every 20-30 minutes. The fortunate part is that the hot water I used earlier, which I brought to a boil and let cool for maybe 2 minutes, melted that stuff back into liquid immediately upon impact. So even if you overshoot it and find your whole works fused into the pan like I did, hot water would still melt it right back into liquid form, so you can't really make too big of a mistake from that perspective.
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: c1dh3d]
#20058254 - 05/29/14 08:29 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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To answer your question after a few pulls the ball or cacti will be white! That's when I toss mine.
Your write up is lookin great man! Can't wait to see the trip report!
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: Rewindicus]
#20058947 - 05/29/14 11:07 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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I'm honestly half way hoping this becomes a "cacti garden" website lol. Cacti love you like no other psychedelic
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: nicechrisman]
#20059895 - 05/30/14 06:46 AM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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nicechrisman said: Yeah. Usually we'll take the tar balls and then drink the meltwater. You can also reduce the meltwater a bit, or you can combine the meltwater with the strained everclear and reduce the whole works into a tar. There's lots of options.
Think I'm going to try that! Entire procedure would be this, then: Section (remove core), peel waxy skin, freeze then thaw sections x 2, blend meltwater and cactus flesh with everclear, filter, and evaporate to tar?
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: Nature Boy]
#20060355 - 05/30/14 09:45 AM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Can someone please explain why anyone peels the skin off? It's completely pointless and yet a pain in the ass lol...
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
#20060424 - 05/30/14 10:10 AM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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It has been suggested that the skin contributes to nausea. Not sure how that determination was ever made or how reliably it was established. I have to agree that peeling seems like an incredibly laborious part of the procedure, but hey, I'm not here to re-invent the wheel. Lots of knowing folks have come before and suggested it's a proper thing to do...so who am I to argue?
If you know something definitive on the subject,lets hear it! I have no knowledge or first hand experience on skin vs no skin.
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: Nature Boy]
#20060560 - 05/30/14 10:49 AM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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I am not sure about nausea, but the skin was like a barrier between extraction liquids and the flesh of the cactus, which doesn't make a whole lot of difference removing if your going to blend it completely. Also ot makes drying out the flesh via a fan much quicker I'd imagine, as that skin wojld perfectly shield the flesh of the cactus chunks from the moving air.
I just prefer to remove any non-alkaloid containing content like the skin and the core so I don't get the side effects that may or may not come with them.
You wouldn't leave stems / seeds / leaves in your pot because it's a bit extra work to remove them, would you? 
(Though I do realize noone gets pot with seeds anymore)
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#20062244 - 05/30/14 06:37 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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So with the grand finale of this project coming up, I'm starting to think about seperating and capping dosages, and wanted to run something by my fellow shroomerites to see if I'm thinking about this the right way. I'm a bit hesitant to cap it by a gram per capsule, as I took off a decent amount of weight by removing the core, so I was thinking my approach was to consider the whole batch of tar as 4' of bridgesii.
So if I have 20g total weight, the equivalent of a foot would be 5g, 6" 2.5g, etc. Is this a correct way to gauge intake with an extraction? It's been a long time since I've embarked on a psychadelic, so I'm thinking 6" for a starting dose to gauge potency, as I've read of people getting their minds ripped oit of their skulls unexpectedly with a 6" dose.
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: c1dh3d]
#20062393 - 05/30/14 07:33 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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your logic is sound but because you cant gauge potency with a stalk who knows how strong it actually is. Even with tar. tar just makes it so theres less matter to take in. Ive done a lot of reading and ive never heard of anyone taking 6 inches and being floored.
i personally have done up to 18 of bridge and it was intense but manageable its a very forgiving drug. Look at star fire and joe and magical orangutangs posts and see what they went with as well as erowid posts. The potency is going to change batch to batch unless you make a huge extraction then mix it all together real well. (joe did that).
Im going to look into redosing to see how that goes a couple hours into the trip if the effects arent where i want them.
anyways as always keep us posted!
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: Rewindicus]
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It would be very easy to test if the skin contributes to the nausea by eating the skin alone.
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: Rewindicus]
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What I am doing is actually taking pulls of the iso, evaping them down to a point it's still liquid, and sealing it to keep it liquid to add the next pull on top - all of this has been mixed with the reduced meltwater. So, it should be actually as even as possible, as I'd really like to be able to gauge the effects of certain dosages and increase it as needed without the variable of potency between cuttings
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: healing]
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Let us know brother!
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Let us know brother! 
I don't have any access to bridge skin. I no longer take any drugs other than those prescribed by my doctor
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: healing]
#20063163 - 05/30/14 11:06 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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I'm sorry to hear that man, I'm just about to finish my taper off of xanax soon here, and I haven't minded cutting down the dosage, but going completely off is a nightmarish thought.
Maybe some mescaline can put our minds down a different path though, eh?
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: c1dh3d]
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This only applies to me personally, but bunk cactus gives me zero nausea even if I eat the skin and core with it. For me nausea is mainly a function of the dose of active alkaloids, psychological factors, and what other things I've ingested that day. Healthy fats such as peanut butter as well as chocolate and honey, significantly reduce the nausea. Acidic foods or beverages exacerbate the nausea.
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
#20065541 - 05/31/14 03:30 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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The trip report from 6" of cactus I referred to was actually the first one I clicked on Erowid in the experiences section, which can be located here, which I'm sure is very uncommon to have but not absolutely unheard of.
Last pull and final evap tonight, I shall post my results!
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Hmmmm....but did you overlook the mass of the 6" cactus in that trip report??? 450 grams = one full pound. That's a pretty thick piece of bridgessi!!!!!!
One pound is a goodly dose. Just goes to show you that using LENGTH rather than MASS is a shitty measurement plan. Insofar as possible, one should always calculate based on a mg/kg basis. I found it intensely interesting that his timeline maxed out at T + 3 hours. That's pretty consistent with my experience last night. Mescaline >>IS<< sneaky!!!
Check this out:
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: Nature Boy]
#20066280 - 05/31/14 07:16 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Definitely agree, that trip report in the link I posted is a perfect example of why measuring dosage by length is a bad idea if you don't want a submersive experience. Maybe I will do 1g per capsule, and try to figure out a good starting dosage from the end weight.
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Just saw you added a video to your post, I will have to refer back to that when I get around to my first dose 
Did your experience max out at around the 3 hour mark NB?
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#20066310 - 05/31/14 07:23 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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If you have 14 inches of quality bridgesii that's been in the fridge for a while, it is starting to slowly feel like I done dosed myself with dmt..I don't know if this is the right thread sorry I'm fucked loll
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Did your experience max out at around the 3 hour mark NB?
Yep...2:30 and I was just getting to the steep part of the journey from baseline towards peak. Over the ensuing 30 minutes, I peaked.
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: Nature Boy]
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I actually tried watching it but the video is just constantly loading, but I'll definitely check it oit once I am back in front of my normal PC. Does the experience compare at all the mushrooms, lsd, or anything else in yoir experience NB?
And Orangutan, you are making me want to break out the deem, you sound like you're having an interesting night brother
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c1dh3d said: I actually tried watching it but the video is just constantly loading, but I'll definitely check it oit once I am back in front of my normal PC. Does the experience compare at all the mushrooms, lsd, or anything else in yoir experience NB?
And Orangutan, you are making me want to break out the deem, you sound like you're having an interesting night brother 
Watch it on YouTube, then, if you can. Nah. Mushrooms are very different - at least for me. Too much internal self-examination with them. LSD is differentiatable, too. LSD has a harder edge and takes you to a more futuristic headspace. Mescaline seems more....ancient and earthy.
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: Nature Boy]
#20066852 - 05/31/14 09:43 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Ah yes, I recognized the fear and loathing line immediately in that clip, thanks for sharing 
Doing the final evap now, it's been a cool process, but I am glad it's finally coming to a close. I will post up the weight before I cap it up.
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: c1dh3d]
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Cidhead you've tripped hard on dmt right?
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Yes sir, I've spent entire nights with a few grams blasting my brains out about every 30 seconds, been quite awhile though. I was actually going to smoke a few hits last night, but had some drama with my chick going on, so had to rain check.
I've done a damn good extract before, stuff came out snow white, and 2-3 puffs rips your face off this planet
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That's so high energy. I don't want any drug that feels like that song sounds.
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: healing]
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So I've reduced the liquid down to a very thick, and veeery sticky, small puddle of tar. Was wondering if normal collection procedure would be to just mix in flour in the sticky goop to solidify it, or if further drying will eventually make it easier to work with. Right now when I scrape ot around with razors it clumps up and sticks to the razor, but if you get a bit on your fingers the only way it's coming pff os thorough hand washing.
So I was thinking measure out some flour so I know how much weight is actual tar, collect it on up, and anything too stuck to the sides I plan on bathing the pan in hot water then pouring that in a container for later consumption.
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: c1dh3d]
#20076277 - 06/02/14 11:38 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yup. I threw 5 grams of flour into my pyrex dish for getting the tar up which was a little too m7ch but still worked out fine. I also put flour all over my fingers and hands like a gymnast would while balling it up because it ended up ripping the gloves off my fingers from how sticky they were.
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: c1dh3d]
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At any time you wish, gentle re-heating will take the brittle, easily chipped tar and render it softer, more gooey, and easier to collect. Do this ONLY in a pyrex glass pan. You can even use a heat gun if you don't want to/can't use a stove-top. We have a cook-top range with a "bridge" burner so I can easily cycle on/off the heat and work with the tar very easily.
What >>>I<<< am wondering is this: As between the meltwater tar (dark brown) and the iso extracted tar (so green it is practically black) which has the most alkaloids, and do the component alkaloids differ?
I'm in the process of reducing my huge volume of iso down right now using a dehydrator (outside of course). It is going VERY quickly. I think I'm going to try to envision a way to combine ALL recovered tar - either by re-dissolution or mechanically by freezing, crushing, and then mixing in order to make the entire batch homogenous.
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: Nature Boy]
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I actually combined everything just by adding the iso extract to the same pyrex pan that the meltwater was reduced to tar in, and everytime I added iso extract pulls I gave it a good stir up.
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c1dh3d said: So I've reduced the liquid down to a very thick, and veeery sticky, small puddle of tar. Was wondering if normal collection procedure would be to just mix in flour in the sticky goop to solidify it, or if further drying will eventually make it easier to work with. Right now when I scrape ot around with razors it clumps up and sticks to the razor, but if you get a bit on your fingers the only way it's coming pff os thorough hand washing.
So I was thinking measure out some flour so I know how much weight is actual tar, collect it on up, and anything too stuck to the sides I plan on bathing the pan in hot water then pouring that in a container for later consumption.
Sound about right?
No need to mix it with flour. Just reduce it down to a tar, scrape it up and roll the balls in flour. You don't want to add volume, just roll it in it to keep from being so sticky. It's a pain in the ass to scrape up and stuff. If you use a nonstick pan it helps.
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So tonight was the grand finale, and all of that beautiful cacti that was such a pain to peel, is now a manageable gwab of awesomeness. The evaporation of the 9% water in the alcohol took a lot longer than anticipated, but finally got it into a small, plastic like puddle of extremely sticky goo:

HUGE pain in the ass to handle this stuff, as it's the consistency of brownie batter
And as if the stickiness of that liquid wasn't pain in the ass enough, working with razor blades while stoned is one of my least favorite activities, so I took 2 grams of flour and just rolled the entire puddle into one giant flour dusted ball for weight:

Still a pain to work with, but dusted enough to be transportable for a quick weigh in
The flour was completely used up upon weighing that, so I'm calling that 31 grams of iso tar. The gwab was then stretched out a bit and applied ~2g more flour into it, so I could flatten it out for the final drying of the extract, so it can be easily transferred into capsules:

I let it rest to flatten out, and it naturally formed the shape of bacon, because it's so god damn awesome!
So the black tar bacon strip undergoes one more final stretch of drying, the pyrex pan will get hit with a wash of cold water to remove the tar, then use a cup or so of boiling water to melt all the excess tar off the pan and cool down the water to kick back at a later time. I thought about going for the last scrapings of tar from the sides, but I'm a bit too baked to want to play with razors and tar half the night, so I will just down some extract tea sometime soon 
And that is a rap homies Not sure when I'll have time to go for a full experience, but I'll post up when I do!
     
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Nice! Nice write up will be a great tek for the site! 
you gotta get into that!
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: c1dh3d]
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Yeah that shit is a pain in the ass for sure!
Can't wait to hear a trip report
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: nicechrisman]
#20080967 - 06/03/14 11:36 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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thanks for such careful documentation; can't wait for your trip report! I just skinned another 12 inches tonight. Got about 5 feet more before it's all ready to blend.
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Thanks for the feedback, glad you guys dig the thread, it was fun to go back and look at all the pics from the entire process!
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#20092076 - 06/06/14 09:52 AM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Hey Cid, I'm going to do some more work on this today and wanted your opinion on solvent. I think you used isopropyl alcohol. What % did you use? Would you use this solvent again or would you suggest a different alcohol or different strength of the isopropyl? How much total volume did you use of your solvent? Doing this again, would you use more, less, or the same? And you started with 4 pounds of wet cacti, is that right? Thanks for your insight!
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: TravelingTraveler]
#20092581 - 06/06/14 12:11 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Nice write up, thanks for sharing. I'll be interested to see how it goes. I'm in the process of doing some Pedro up and am using a similar process to yours, but am using Ethanol Vanzol instead of IPA. I also saved my meltwater resin. Most every other thread never mentioned meltwater so I was surprised at how much I had and didn't really know what to do with it so I saved it to evaporate and then I saw your thread and will be combining it with the ethanol extract.
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: BigHeart]
#20093445 - 06/06/14 03:57 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Glad you found some good info from the thread BigHeart!
TT I used 91% alcohol, and I'd probably just stick with that unless you want to spring for everclear. The only difference I assume there is between alcohol percentage is the evap time, as the evap seems to almost grind to a halt when the iso evaps and your left with the percentage of water present in the iso.
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: c1dh3d]
#20094801 - 06/06/14 10:32 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Everclear is also REALLY $$$.
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Yes, it is. I'm using Ethanol Vanzol 200 proof which I get for free. It's ~92% ethanol, ~4% Isopropyl Alcohol, and ~4% N-Propyl Acetate. It evaporates super quickly and seems to be doing a good job so far.
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: BigHeart]
#20097560 - 06/07/14 07:25 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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I actually went out and got a bag of damp-rid and set up a little dry chamber for the tar puddle, I was going to post the dry weight but that stuff really does not want to dry, and I'm only trying to get it solid enough where the tar isn't sticking to containers. Once it's dry enough to work with, into the capsules it will go
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: c1dh3d]
#20097571 - 06/07/14 07:30 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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I used a food dehydrator and 99.5% iso. Yes...you can get it at that concentration. It is used for cleaning electronics. In fact, I'm one minute away from downing 15 grams of my very own tar. 
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#20098046 - 06/07/14 09:58 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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I wish it were high five worthy. The nausea is ever present. I feel like I'm just one deep breath away from vomiting my own entrails.
I will never, EVER put cactus tar to my lips ever again. I will knock myself out making mescaline HCL out of it or nothing.
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: Nature Boy]
#20098056 - 06/07/14 10:01 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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It will most likely pass soon and you'll forget you ever even felt nauseous. At least that's how it is for me. If you need to puke, let it happen.
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: nicechrisman]
#20098100 - 06/07/14 10:14 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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I find tar to be the hardest on my stomach. Tea tastes really bad, but it doesn't seem to sit and my stomach the same way the tar does. A recently tried method that I really liked was drying the green tissue below the skin, grinding it and putting it in capsules.
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: nicechrisman]
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You'll have a great time N.B., no sweat whatsoever.
Nausua is the worst, sorry to hear it But wait an hour and it'll be the best time of your life hehe
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: KingKnowledge]
#20098179 - 06/07/14 10:45 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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To be honest I never really thought cactus nausea was that badly unpleasant, Hmm. Shroom stomach ails were definitely more unpleasant and felt harder on my stomach
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
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I think that may be in part due to the fact that you favor using dried plant tissue instead of resins and teas. I recently had a very good experience with dried green tissue encapsulated. Will experiment further.
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: nicechrisman]
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Really dude? Lol I know encapsulating the cactus delays the onset somewhat, but in my experience, it is more effective at combating nausea than anything else, even eating the cactus with peanut butter and lemon essential oil
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
#20098385 - 06/08/14 12:08 AM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Well, it's been hours of GI razor blades. No fun whatsoever. Wish I'd have skipped this ride.
Look, lets not jack this thread any more than it has been already. I'll ride it out. Going to try a warm shower. Thanks for your thoughts, concerns and well-wishes. It's in my hands now. Gonna go put on my big-boy pants and try to take this back for myself.
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: Nature Boy]
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Ahh, that nausea really sucks man, sorry to hear it! That's the only thing keeping me from doing this exact thing. I absolutely hate feeling nausea, I feel it enough when I'm sober and I never ever want to feel that on a trip. Other than that, Mesc sounds beautiful.
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: alteredmindstates]
#20098587 - 06/08/14 01:25 AM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Honestly there's good cactus and then there's cactus that has a lot of undesirable feeling side alkaloids. The latter can make you feel uncomfortable because you're mentally drowsy but physically sped up. The body high is also high in tension, as opposed to the orgasmic love of certain, presumably more purely mescaline laden as opposed to side alkaloid laden, cacti specimens
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: KingKnowledge]
#20098823 - 06/08/14 03:09 AM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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KingKnowledge you saved my life with that SRV. Have not slept a wink but had amazing audio and closed eye visuals. Just stuck my head outside and breathed some fresh, cool morning air and listened to the shit ton of birds chirping away. I hadn't realized how hot and stifling my bedroom was.
Nausea and GI razor blades are gone. I feel drawn and in desperate need of sleep. I'm still psychedelicized as the phrase goes. Had a lot of distracting large skeletal muscle fasciculations which were a constant detraction from whatever good might have also been going on at the time.
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: Nature Boy]
#20100288 - 06/08/14 12:17 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Wow it seems I missed one epically shitty ride you went on NB, sorry to hear that brother. Could you describe how you prep'd the tar and your body, like perhaps what consistency the tar was / what it was encapsulated with (capsules, flour, straight tar down the hatch), and also did you try to gag yourself to get some puking going on?
I'm going to be dosing on vacation and I really hope I don't get that sick, though I will probably only be taking 6-8g at most. Hope you got some sleep and are feeling better today sir, I'd be interested in hearing any details you would be willing to share on the experience vs the tea you ingested a couple weeks back!
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: c1dh3d]
#20100432 - 06/08/14 12:43 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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In terms of prep, it was pretty classic. Started with these decored and despined sections, which I froze, thawed x 2.

Obtained this meltwater, and close to two quarts of blended cactus pulp.

I dried the meltwater with a food dehydrator:

And obtained from the meltwater, this golden, tacky tar.

The pulp was treated with copious amounts of anhydrous isopropyl alcohol, 99.953%, to yield a deep green-black tar.

Both the meltwater tar and the iso extracted tar were gently melted to silly putty consistency in a double boiler, and homogenized mechanically by stirring one into the other.

Yielding a final product which was a hard (when refrigerated) dark green-black the consistency of peanut brittle, of which I ate 15 grams.

Unfortunately, social obligations had me at a house party where I ate chips, drank 2 beers, and had a slice of a 6 foot long hero. Immediately upon returning home, I consumed the tar coated in honey, which was like swallowing half-disguised postage-stamp sized, putrid tasting glass shards. One and a half hours after finishing off the 15 grams I simultaneously started tripping balls, the nausea took hold, and I developed horrid abdominal pain and gas which took hours to subside.
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: Nature Boy]
#20100544 - 06/08/14 01:11 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Nature Boy said: Well, it's been hours of GI razor blades.
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Nature Boy said: I consumed the tar coated in honey, which was like swallowing half-disguised postage-stamp sized, putrid tasting glass shards.
Was the abdominal pain from swallowing the sharp shards, or just from the substance itself?
Would it be possible to freeze it and shatter it into small crystals/powder with a hammer or something to put it into capsules?
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: Nemodeus]
#20100700 - 06/08/14 02:02 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Nature Boy said: Well, it's been hours of GI razor blades.
Would it be possible to freeze it and shatter it into small crystals/powder with a hammer or something to put it into capsules?
I don't believe this would be viable for a capping option, as the tar would resume it's stickiness within a few minutes at room temperature. My idea was to dry it as much as possible with damp rid, but even after a couple days in the dry chamber, the clump of tar is still quite flexible.
I think I shot myself in the foot in terms of smuggling it off to vacation, as the generic aspirin capsules I got at a CVS pharmacy won't work for capping them, and the only capsules I've found locally that aren't sealed are clear, so it'd probably look like a capsule filled with heroin. After searching for capsules that can be emptied and refilled to look like an OTC medicine seems damn near impossible, but I am guessing there is some sort of restrictions for pharmacies to that end.
It's kind of disappointing, but at this hour I am writing it off as a sign from the tripping gods that there is a reason I am not finding them, perhaps I was not meant to have my first experience while on vacation.
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: Nature Boy]
#20102260 - 06/08/14 08:52 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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...And obtained from the meltwater, this golden, tacky tar.
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That golden tar is mesmerizing. It looks like it is just chock full of psychedelic goodness. It makes me want to make some from several feet and just take the melt water extract. Cool beans N.B.
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: healing]
#20102307 - 06/08/14 09:07 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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healing said: Why do you peel your cacti?
 There are so many ways out there that don't involve so much peeling, just cut, dry, powder, A/B or B/A extract until your product is reduced to your liking and you're done. I love new teks and ideas, don't get me wrong but I have seen many analysises that have found actives in that skin.... hell, if you're just gonna throw it out can I have it?
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: Outwalkin]
#20103920 - 06/09/14 07:35 AM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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I'd be interested to see a link to these analyses. The skin is basically just like clear hard plastic. I can't imagine that it has any content. The green tissue just below the skin however...
Also there are many stories about there being unhealthy and nausea promoting substances in the skin. I don't think I believe that, but the skin just adds a lot of chunky extra bulk that I would rather have out of the way.
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: nicechrisman]
#20104429 - 06/09/14 10:25 AM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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I'll try to get some links for ya today, I have seen them but its been almost or at least 8 years since I have dealt with cacti and even then I never went through the trouble with extraction, just growing.
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: Outwalkin]
#20116289 - 06/11/14 08:22 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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"I used some cactus kate (primary cultivar?) to yield 72 grams dried powder. Pretty much followed this thread exactly except I didn't bother to de-skin or de-spine or de-core so my powder is probably nowhere near as dense in the good stuff. Out of the 72 grams dried, I pulled 26 grams of very dark stuff, could be exaggerated color from the chlorophyll in the skin. I let it dry for about 4 days now, and had used 200 proof ethanol so I ended up with a very dry, slightly sticky product that I scraped up into these "peeled bark" looking pieces (think cinnamon sticks) and some powder. Total yield of tar bark stuff was 26 grams. I split it roughly in half (14 grams for me, 12 for my gf). She decided to wait til next time so it's just me today. 14 grams fit into 22 gel caps of 00 size, it was messy work and I probably lost a small percentage of yield that stuck to my fingers but not much.
Just took half my dose (11 pills) and am going to take the other half in about a half hour so my stomach isn't overloaded with gelcaps all at once. I can't comment as to how the effects rate just yet, but as far as ingestion goes, it was just like taking any other pills; tasteless and easy. After reading all of the people online talking about how nasty the tea or raw flesh is this method is great so far.
I'll try to check in in a bit if anything interesting happens."
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: BigHeart]
#20116294 - 06/11/14 08:23 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Bon voyage fellow traveler
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: nicechrisman]
#20116588 - 06/11/14 09:29 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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"Thanks for the well wishes Nice Chris Man 
I'm not trying to hijack this thread but since I used mostly the same technique I thought it would be helpful to share my experience.
So far this is where I'm at:
Time: 0:00 Took initial 11 pills (7 grams tar) with powerade to swallow.
T: 0:45 Took the other 11 pills (7 grams more tar).
T: 1:20 I might be starting to feel something, but it also might be just be placebo. I'm wondering if I should take my girlfriend's dose of 12 grams tar also, since primary cultivar isn't renowned for it's potency, and I'm a larger than average human in height, weight, muscle and fat content. I know the three hour mark is supposed to be when it really kicks in so we'll see what happens!
T: 3:00 Well, I'm definitely feeling something, a little giggly, a bit of body sensitivity (in the good way, my girlfriend was just rubbing on me and it felt great but I had to fight her off because I don't want to be all tired after climax, gotta stay up tonight). She said my eyes looked big also. I've had slight nausea, where it feels like my throat is a little tight and has pressure from below on it. Haven't puked or anything like that though. I decided to go ahead and take her portion of 12 grams tar, but not having the patience to encapsulate it all, I just rolled the parts that I could into pill shapes and swallowed, and the remaining dry crumbly bits I stuffed into 3 capsules."
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: BigHeart]
#20117419 - 06/12/14 12:36 AM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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good luck with your journey, looking forward to hearing how the rest of it went.
I have also followed this procedure and my 12 pounds of prepped san pedro (skin and core removed) has yielded 205 grams of powder which is currently soaking in 91% isopropyl. I'm thinking of dividing my tar into 6 parts, so that each part is more or less the equivalent of 2 pounds of cacti for my first dose.
Keep us updated OP on your plans to try out your batch!
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: BigHeart]
#20118079 - 06/12/14 05:54 AM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: BigHeart]
#20120103 - 06/12/14 04:44 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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BigHeart said: "I used some cactus kate (primary cultivar?) to yield 72 grams dried powder. Pretty much followed this thread exactly except I didn't bother to de-skin or de-spine or de-core so my powder is probably nowhere near as dense in the good stuff. Out of the 72 grams dried, I pulled 26 grams of very dark stuff, could be exaggerated color from the chlorophyll in the skin. I let it dry for about 4 days now, and had used 200 proof ethanol so I ended up with a very dry, slightly sticky product that I scraped up into these "peeled bark" looking pieces (think cinnamon sticks) and some powder. Total yield of tar bark stuff was 26 grams. I split it roughly in half (14 grams for me, 12 for my gf). She decided to wait til next time so it's just me today. 14 grams fit into 22 gel caps of 00 size, it was messy work and I probably lost a small percentage of yield that stuck to my fingers but not much.
Just took half my dose (11 pills) and am going to take the other half in about a half hour so my stomach isn't overloaded with gelcaps all at once. I can't comment as to how the effects rate just yet, but as far as ingestion goes, it was just like taking any other pills; tasteless and easy. After reading all of the people online talking about how nasty the tea or raw flesh is this method is great so far.
I'll try to check in in a bit if anything interesting happens."
All of the above text is transcribed from a fictional story and has nothing to do with me personally.
All that work and ya still had 14 grams of stuff...damn, you were THAT CLOSE to a real A/B extraction the product of which would have yielded crystals that would have fit into one, maybe two capsules... damn, well I guess ya gotta crawl before ya walk...good luck and safe journey!
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: Outwalkin]
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You're right, but it's N.B. Fuck off.
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: healing]
#20120567 - 06/12/14 06:10 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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This thread makes me want cacti. I am planning on starting to grow bridgessi soon.
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: musiclover420]
#20124349 - 06/13/14 12:40 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Hope you had a good experience Bigheart! I'm on vacation so no tar for me, but I did happen to find out how easy it is to get a MJ card in a medicinal state 
Glad to see some of you using this tek and posting up, I'd like to see comparisons in experiences, and will somedah soon add my own experience!
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Outwalkin said, in part: All that work and ya still had 14 grams of stuff...damn, you were THAT CLOSE to a real A/B extraction the product of which would have yielded crystals that would have fit into one, maybe two capsules... damn, well I guess ya gotta crawl before ya walk...
You mean like this??? 

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Nature Boy said:
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Outwalkin said, in part: All that work and ya still had 14 grams of stuff...damn, you were THAT CLOSE to a real A/B extraction the product of which would have yielded crystals that would have fit into one, maybe two capsules... damn, well I guess ya gotta crawl before ya walk...
You mean like this??? 

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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: Outwalkin]
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if its dry on the metal pan just use your alcohol to hydrate it amd loosen it up like described above and the. save all of it by pouring into pyrex dish and then evap.
no, it will not fuse to the glass. wtf? pyrex makes scraping a simple task
pyrex is your best friend!
edit: whoops, forgot i was on page 1
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: islanduniverse]
#20137737 - 06/16/14 12:28 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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So after a week in the damp-rid dry chamber, I came out with a flexible clump of tar that was perfect for breaking up by hand and capping:


I scraped up a bit more from the pan as well to get 34 caps at about 1 gram each, and next up is dosing at some point hopefully not too far off. Would any of you by chance be able to link to dosages / experiences with this type of extract that may have helped you? Also I was wondering if anyone knows what 'type' of mescaline this is, like if it is acetate or what the chemical name would be for the product of an iso extract.
Going by the traditional length as measure, about 8-9 caps would be a foot, which I'd maybe start with 6 to gauge how hard it's going to rock me at higher dosages.
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: c1dh3d]
#20140864 - 06/16/14 06:06 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Good question. I don't recall if you used any acid to put the mescaline into a salt form. It would be acetate if you had used vinegar, citrate for citric acid, HCL for HCL, etc. It may be free base mescaline since I think you only used alcohol? Maybe someone with more of a Chemistry background could help you.
Did it have any salty taste? I added lime juice to tea, when I have made it in the past. Before I added lime juice it was just bitter tasting. After adding the lime juice and cooking it down, it becomes extremely salty and still bitter. But, so worth it.
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: 4HO-DMT]
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Are the actives in the living cactus in salt form before you begin to process it?
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: healing]
#20141100 - 06/16/14 06:54 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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I don't think so. I think that putting it into a salt form makes it more stable. But, I could be wrong about this.
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: Outwalkin]
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BigHeart said: "I used some cactus kate (primary cultivar?) to yield 72 grams dried powder. Pretty much followed this thread exactly except I didn't bother to de-skin or de-spine or de-core so my powder is probably nowhere near as dense in the good stuff. Out of the 72 grams dried, I pulled 26 grams of very dark stuff, could be exaggerated color from the chlorophyll in the skin. I let it dry for about 4 days now, and had used 200 proof ethanol so I ended up with a very dry, slightly sticky product that I scraped up into these "peeled bark" looking pieces (think cinnamon sticks) and some powder. Total yield of tar bark stuff was 26 grams. I split it roughly in half (14 grams for me, 12 for my gf). She decided to wait til next time so it's just me today. 14 grams fit into 22 gel caps of 00 size, it was messy work and I probably lost a small percentage of yield that stuck to my fingers but not much.
Just took half my dose (11 pills) and am going to take the other half in about a half hour so my stomach isn't overloaded with gelcaps all at once. I can't comment as to how the effects rate just yet, but as far as ingestion goes, it was just like taking any other pills; tasteless and easy. After reading all of the people online talking about how nasty the tea or raw flesh is this method is great so far.
I'll try to check in in a bit if anything interesting happens."
All of the above text is transcribed from a fictional story and has nothing to do with me personally.
All that work and ya still had 14 grams of stuff...damn, you were THAT CLOSE to a real A/B extraction the product of which would have yielded crystals that would have fit into one, maybe two capsules... damn, well I guess ya gotta crawl before ya walk...good luck and safe journey!
" I know, it was a lot of work but it still condensed the material down massively from the raw cactus lol. I don't know enough about how to do an acid/base extraction yet, and people say it's better to enjoy the full alkaloid profile anyways.
As a follow up, my first batch was pretty much a dud, not very potent. I now know what they mean when they say San Pedro varies in potency. I ended up eating all of the 26 grams (14 grams at first, then two hours later the other 12 grams) and it was maybe 25% of where I wanted to be, like just a taste of the beauty of the cactus. That was with about 6 lbs of so called Pachanoi, some very thick juicy pieces too.
Well, my second ethanol extraction with 4 - 12inch skinny pieces from a different vendor yielded about 10 grams of tar. So about 40% of the amount versus my first extraction, and going off of how weak the first one was I just ate all 10 grams and right away I knew it was going to be different. The first sign was that it was very, VERY bitter. The first tar batch I capsuled most of it but ate some of it straight so I know the taste wasn't that bad from the bits I ate straight. The second batch (different vendor) was making me gag, almost lost my guts just choking it down.
It was a hot day, temps had spiked up 10+ degrees and my girlfriend needed to go to costco to pick up prescription glasses. Probably not the best setting to try out a new batch haha. On the 20 minute car ride to Costco, with the heat being so hot I had to do everything I could to fight the nausea and not barf all over the car. I was having a bit of anxiety, thinking that the rest of the day would be spent in nauseated hell and why did I eat all 10 grams at once. As soon as we got to Costco I handed my girlfriend my costco card to pick up her glasses and I hightailed it to the bathroom, trying to zigzag around all the fat asses in mobilized scooters clogging up the place in line for the food court. I didn't want to puke because it had only been about 45-60 minutes since I ingested the tar and I didn't want to waste it. Too bad, I had no choice in the matter, I had simply eaten too much.
I projectile vomited every last bit of the tar plus the fruit roll-up I had eaten to mask the taste of the tar. It looked fairly undigested and I was just thinking "damn, what a waste of 4 feet of cactus". When the purging was finally done, I left the bathroom to find my gf waiting and she says "Hey you said you just had to pee, not take a shit, I hate waiting for you to poop you always take forever and you look like you just took the biggest shit of your life, you're all sweaty!" I told her I puked and she was fine after that lol.
This is where it got good. It's true what they say that after you purge you feel better immediately. We left Costco to go to the headshop and pick up a whip cream dispenser plus cartridges, then go to the beach at the lake. Since I puked up most of my tar, due to not knowing it would be SO STRONG versus my first batch, I wasn't having super strong open eye visuals but things were definitely different looking and I felt great. However, when I took a lungful of that nitrous... damn, closed my eyes and BLAST OFF! That was incredible, so happy, so ecstatic, so beautiful. Never any anxiety or fear or sadness. Incredible full body orgasm feeling, with the most beautiful sights ever (closed eye visuals). Other drugs have left me with ups and downs through the trip but the cactus was always nice to me, nothing bad whatsoever after the initial purge. I wish I had cactus with me at Burning Man when I went, instead of "molly" (who knows what was in it).
While the open eye visuals were subtle and mild, the closed eye visuals coupled with nitrous were stunning. I never experienced ego death, I always knew who I was and what was happening but I enjoyed it thoroughly. If I had known how potent that batch would be, I'd have probably just taken 5 grams and made myself hold it down longer. The fact that it affected me so greatly even after puking up the majority of it shows me that it was some potent cacti, and that I have much to learn next time I embrace the teachings of the cactus.
The sad thing is that I only have one 12" cutting of this strain left, and it's pretty thin/dry looking and I don't know if I'll be able to grow it, it might be too far gone.
To summarize, and be on topic for this thread: The alchol extraction technique does work, and is a viable candidate for those who can't stomach a tea (like my gf) because you can encapsulate with no taste if desired. "
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: c1dh3d]
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Thought I'd bump this thread to see how that tar turned out for ya c1dh3d ?....
...and also to say, taking the spines out and peeling the waxy skin is the biggest pain in the ass ever . Every time I've gone about making a brew I have cut out the core and cut closely to the thin layer of green flesh...but I have never taken off the waxy skin or got rid of the spines.
Last time I tried taking the waxy skin off frozen cactus, after 30 minutes and only have a few inches done I said screw it and threw the cactus flesh in the brew with waxy skin & spines intact. Recently, figured I'd try to peel the waxy skin and pull the spines out before freezing...still a huge pain in the ass , at the rate I was going it would take all night (plus some) just to get the skin off a few feet.
So, once again...I'm tossing the dark green flesh into a brew with skin & spines intact . I'm usually a patient person, but that was quite tedious and aggravating.
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: openmind]
#20303926 - 07/20/14 11:16 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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Thanks for the pics OP, my tar was way too liquidity when I capped it due to the 4th and running out of time, so its good to see what it will look like if I give it more time.
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: mandrin13]
#20424107 - 08/15/14 06:44 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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I re-read this tonight, and I wanted to let you lot know I haven't been able to find a good weekend to drop any of this, as my work is so crazy it requires on call hours and life in general is so busy I can't be tripping for 6-12 hours at this time 
Once I get a free weekend before the end of the summer to drop these though, I will report back, and I hope this has helped some take the journey in the mean time
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: c1dh3d]
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Gaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh dying to hear your experience! !!!!
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: c1dh3d]
#20425940 - 08/16/14 05:07 AM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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Man, doesn't that suck??? I hate it when responsible, "real life" gets in the way of my hobbies!
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: Nature Boy]
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What is this "real" life you speak of?
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: nicechrisman]
#20426114 - 08/16/14 07:28 AM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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Work, social obligations, wife, pets, laundry, banking, car maintenance, home maintenance - all the mundane bullshit we all must give over our time to on a daily/weekly basis. Sucks the life out of play-time. 
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: Nature Boy]
#20426116 - 08/16/14 07:29 AM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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But how can you be sure it's not all a very convincing dream?
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: nicechrisman]
#20426130 - 08/16/14 07:34 AM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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Actually, I'm sure it is. "Life is but a Dream" and I'm Row, Row, Rowing along with all the rest... 
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: Nature Boy]
#20426476 - 08/16/14 09:51 AM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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merrily merrily merrily merrily
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: nicechrisman]
#20426557 - 08/16/14 10:12 AM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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Just stuck 1/2 tab of AL-LAD where it'll do the most good. Merrily, merrily, indeed! 
Wish me 
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: Nature Boy]
#20427103 - 08/16/14 12:26 PM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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Good vibes brother I will get to those capsules some weekend soon here, it is a pain in the ass having every weekend booked the entire summer, I so need a weekend not even to trip but to just sit around and not do shit...... while tripping
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: Nature Boy]
#22079713 - 08/12/15 01:55 AM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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Nice! Looking forward to more on this.
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I know you followed a similar if not the same tek, and had a hell of an experience, however mine was light and "fluffy" I'd almost call it.
I felt no nausea, I found myself a lot funnier than other people did, and it kept going upwards all night in terms of high (and not in a trippy morbid out of reality way).
I only consumed two capsules, and they got me way lifted, I have maybe 32 that I hope to split between 4 people, and trip nut sacks head over heels. People asked me after I ingested it two hours prior, how I could just take mescaline before a big party, and I was having so much fun I just said "I wish I would have taken more."
I know you wrote about a shit time with this same process NB, and my condolences to that, but my capsules seem pretty docile on my innards and go straight to the brain 
I appreciate everyones input, noone I know gives half a shit how the mescaline gets into the capsule except you fine folks. My irl friends think I'm some sort of mad scientist, and I just want to know where my drugs come from so I don't hurt myself or someone else.
Much love for the support, and when I take the extremely heavy dose, I'll make a separate thread I do believe I believe I had a total of 34 capsules total, so down to 32, between 4 people that is 8 a pop.
Insanity shall pursue, but my friends know everytime they fly with my, they are blasting off the fucking planet on the express way 
Thanks again to folks watching this thread and cheering on the success of the project, it keeps me ticking. I really wish I had documented me making 10+ grams of DMT by accident, I smoked almost all the evidence, but the pure white crystalline after it dried was...
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: c1dh3d]
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So cidhead man, how many cacti/mescaline experiences do you have and what were they all like? How intense? How would you compare it with well, cid?
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
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MagicalOrangutan said: So cidhead man, how many cacti/mescaline experiences do you have and what were they all like? How intense? How would you compare it with well, cid? 
Well if you take 4 feet, and put that number into 34 caps (which I believe is correct), I'd say I did maybe a quarter foot at most, and I was eating the caps fully packed with the cacti. It was light and mellow, but I haven't really gotten to the wild side yet.
The problem is, I don't really know people that can handle it, and that sucks. Occasionally we all get drunk enough that someone spouts out we should take acid, and I give everyone acid, and it's too much for them if it's beyond 1 hit. I took the two hits for an allergic test before I gave them to anyone else, and to see if I got a buzz, and I definitely did with no nausea at all.
With acid I feel to in control mentally except at extremely high doses, while I lose total loss of motor control over my body, so its a weird mix of having a great head high while my body is so loose I need to lay somewhere and melt. At very high doses of acid, I do things people get put in straight jackets for, and for some reason I like to do them in public - so I don't do 10+ hits of acid anymore (I hope). 
To field the question though, on a low dosage I took, I felt the same warm embrace as I did on acid after sooooo long of a break from it. I was scared to put the paper back to my tongue, but once I felt it, it was like an old friend giving me a hug. This was very similar in the way that it put me at ease, and I was ok with what was going on around me, despite my confusion and being lost in the cross talk conversations going on all around me.
I love lucy, but I can see potential for mescaline being way more relaxing, so potentially a much better substance for hanging out with a few friends and just chilling all night. The way I get down on acid (and they try to follow), there is only one person who can keep up on good vibes with me, and the rest are staring at their watch guestimating when they will finally come down and be done tripping.
So Mescaline to me definitely is better than acid in a social setting, but I love acid solo, and mushroom level 5's tops all. I used to boil quarter oz's in tea every night, and whatever I didn't get down the hatch the night before I kicked back in the morning, my life was a cartoon for years
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: c1dh3d]
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I plan to have a blow out by the end of this summer though, and if noone will eat the other 24 capsules or however the math plays out, then by god I will and have an everlasting moment of clarity for 16 hours or so
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: c1dh3d]
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I had a rough time on triple boiled 1 1/2 feet of bridgesii tea pulled with food grade cirtic acid, not cacti extracted using this tek. The trip to which you refer was speedy as fuck and approached level 4. Plus it was ridiculously long.
I'm gonna stick to the 4 - 6 hours of mushrooms and pill-huasca. Phenethylamines and I don't get along as well as tryptamines, apparently, and if I'm going to spend 12 hours tripping (happily) it's going to be on clean as hell acid.
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: Nature Boy]
#22079893 - 08/12/15 04:17 AM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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Nice to see you finally did it cid! I can't wait for bigger trip!
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: Nature Boy]
#22079894 - 08/12/15 04:18 AM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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However if memory serves you actually extracted it down to salts rather than the shit wad of tar I jammed into capsules? Or did you try to down the god awful tea?
I tried the tea once, threw up my insides for 12+ hours, couldn't pay me to drink it again. On a low dose though this stuff seems tame or soft, whereas an acid or mushroom trip is like being in a different world, this seems to be like just being really really high.
Can you comment in detail on your experience, how you prepared, your diet / sleep / every other detail of your life prior? 
I am curious for when I dive in head first, as the two capsules turned out to be quite pleasant, and I plan to take the others on a very cool chill abandoned beach where no holds are barred.
Good to see you are still around, hope all is good with ya bro!
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: c1dh3d]
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I did do just enough to make sure there wasn't an allergic reaction, or a completely horrible vomiting / body rejection episode, I don't really embrace "purging" as a necessary part of any trip I want to be part of.
It's been awhile since I extracted this shit, I need to suck it up and down it in my normal setting soon if my summer vacation from the heavens isn't happening. However that day will come, and if I can't find someone with the ballsack to kick it back with me I will take 8 to start (roughly 1 foot), and if that isn't horrible the other 24 will be step 2.
I am not afraid of a difficult trip, just don't want to puke and shit my guts out like that god awful tea did to me, never again will I drink that rotten shit.
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And by the way rewind, it's cool as shit to see you too, I feel like we are the middle age of shroomers in terms of vets and newbers! I love when I chime back in on a dead thread and people know right what I'm commenting on
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mossystone14 said: knife and a juicer
Why bother with a knife at that point? Just stuff that bitch into the juicer.
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c1dh3d
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: c1dh3d]
#22080012 - 08/12/15 06:03 AM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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Thank you for making it clear up front you would like to be on my ignore list, I have you added - Was nice seeing your couple of posts!
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: c1dh3d]
#22080059 - 08/12/15 06:23 AM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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Hey, brother! Glad to see you posting, too! I just checked in with my "Experiences" journal and you are right. Back on July 12, 2014 I took 300mg or a bit more of the HCL salt and had a decent time. It was on June 27, 2015 I drank the tea and had the overwhelming experience that knocked me back a notch.
Be well, my friend.
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: Nature Boy]
#22080098 - 08/12/15 06:34 AM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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You as well sir, once I take a proper dose, I shall report back on this thread and let you guys know how weird I come out on the other side
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: Rewindicus]
#22117275 - 08/20/15 03:33 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Rewindicus said: Nice to see you finally did it cid! I can't wait for bigger trip!

I never forgot about this thread, actually found myself wondering if you ever got around to eating it a couple times over the past year.
I have 4 feet's worth of San pedro tea waiting to be consumed at the moment. The cactus I used for this brew has been pretty consistent in its potency, 12 inches of the stuff has been comparable to one good clean hit of L.....I plan on taking at least 1/2 of it on a camping trip sometime in the next couple weeks, and sharing the rest with a first timer .
Depending how much difficulty I have getting it down this time around, I may only consume the tar or go about a/b extractions from here on out .
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: openmind]
#22428051 - 10/24/15 04:23 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I came back to this thread to see how I dosed this pile of tar capsules I still have buried somewhere, as I have over a week off work and life in general as far as I am concerned over thanksgiving next month. Reading through this entire thread, every post, was like reliving that shit in all its glory 
I remember a couple getting me extremely mentally relaxed, and just eased me up to be funny as shit (so I thought) and chatty with everyone around me.
However, I am planning to flatten my ass over this break. I've gotten addicted to level 4-5 trips off acid / mushrooms (for a long time) / dmt, but have not gotten close to ego loss with mescaline. I have just been very weary of a profound dose not just intensifying the experience but prolonging it to 72+ hours at an epic dose.
I am planning to go for 3 at baseline, as when I took 2 I was in the midst of a pretty good bender, and depending on how that hits me I might up it once more to test waters before I take the slam dunk dose to blur reality for a couple days.
Any suggestions for mental preparation, things you've done to occupy the extended trip, or any recent cacti trips from people would be appreciated. My stomach is already churning at the thought of going down a new rabbit hole, and I am set on experiencing this (given my mindset is good to go) to the maximum. One thing I am concerned with is nausea, which I didn't get at all from two caps, but I don't want to overstep that dose too much cause I puked for like 4-6 hours after drinking the god awful tea shit you can boil down from cactus 
My only thoughts are to keep a pad and paper next to me at all times, and try to keep track of time and effects to see if it hits in waves or more interestingly how often I am able to keep track of time 
Someone suggested way early on that I link this in my sig, and I feel it is a good link for the trials and tribulations of noobism to cacti, so I'll tack it on here.
If you have thoughts on the matter, please share with the herd
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