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 How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Full ISO Extraction! (PICS) Complete!!!  4
#20027409 - 05/22/14 10:27 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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So I peeled 4 feet of Bridgesii cuttings today, and all I can say is, what a MASSIVE pain in the ass! I spent the first 30-45 minutes struggling with the wax like skin on the outside of the flesh, so I figured I'd post a picture example, as I couldn't find one for the life of me on the internet as to what was meant by the skin. I actually didn't realize it was just a wax like layer over a fleshy green, for some reason I thought the outside 1/4-1/2" was supposed to be discarded which didn't seem right.
Aaaanyways, I sliced the cutting lengthwise right on the crease in the valleys down to the core, then just peeled / cut out the core from the slices themselves. The first 30-45 minutes I was peeling small 1" strips at a time, one slice taking 15-20 minutes to complete, but I did not want to resort to a peeler or knife to save time but sacrifice flesh (which I contemplated for a moment in my darkest hour of peeling). After so long, I realized that peeling it length wise right on the edges and rolling the skin up towards the spines was extremely efficient, as so:
It's a very thin layer of skin, so the further down you can peel the edge the more surface room you have to leverage the peeling
I found that once I got into a groove, I could clear one half of the section in 2-3 minutes each, then had to do a bit of maintenance around the spines and at the tips. I also found that cold shocking them by filling up a sink with ice water, and letting them soak for 20 minutes, made it much easier to work with as it crispened up the skin quite a bit (it was very soft at ambient temp). I have not done anything with the little holes where the spines were yet, as my peeling nails hurt like hell, and am not sure if it's even worth the effort to dig them out. So here is the haul:
A pain in the ass to skin, but a labor of love
So I was going to ask those experienced with such preparation, what you think of the amount of white flesh left on those strips? The ones that you can see the white strips of flesh, most of them are about the same, the core on Bridgesii seems much smaller than San Pedro. I feel like they are pretty well groomed in terms of the core and white flesh, but I always welcome second opinions, here is a closer pic:
Omnomnomnomnom
So right now they are in the freezer, thinking I may give them two of those shocks to hopefully improve the extraction, and I'm not quite sure what to do with the stuff that apparently oozes out. I was going to just rinse it off the bottom of the container with iso that I'll be pouring into the jars with the dried cactus for extraction, just to keep everything as even strength as possible. Please feel free to let me know if there is groovier uses for it 
Never thought it would be Bridgesii that finally gave me my green thumb!
And that is all I have to say about that, hopefully this helps those who have yet to experience the joys of peeling 4 freekin feet of cacti!
Edited by c1dh3d (06/03/14 10:47 PM)
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 Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: c1dh3d]
#20027616 - 05/22/14 11:27 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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 Good job man! The pic that shows the waxy skin is great. I read a lot of threads where people are confused about what the skin is. That picture clearly shows what the skin is.
When you freeze, save the juice in the container and use it in your extraction as well. Those cucumber strips look yummy in an ironic way. 
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: c1dh3d]
#20027636 - 05/22/14 11:30 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Nice pictorial. yep the good old green thumb 
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: nicechrisman]
#20028135 - 05/23/14 01:34 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Why do you peel your cacti?
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: healing]
#20028605 - 05/23/14 06:07 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Thanks for the props dudes, I plan on throwing some pics of the extraction process up as well since I've already documented the fun part 
I wondered that too healing, thought maybe people preferred less junk material to work with, but it became apparent after peeling enough off that it was a fantastic natural barrier to protect that delicious flesh It was also apparent that the green flesh was only about 1/4-1/2" thick under the skin, and the skin is so thin but sooo sturdy, I'd have had to use a pearing knife if anything to peel.
It came close to me just skinning the last couple with a knife, as my finger nails hurt like hell after cutting #2, but I just couldn't live with myself had I destroyed two cuttings by lopping a ton of the green flesh off.
Anyways, gonna yank them out of freezer and head to work, glad you guys dug the pics of the skin - I really was happy I found a great peeling method to ease the process a bit!
Edited by c1dh3d (05/23/14 02:40 PM)
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: c1dh3d]
#20030787 - 05/23/14 02:56 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: c1dh3d]
#20030833 - 05/23/14 03:08 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Nice! Looking forward to more on this.
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: Nature Boy]
#20031125 - 05/23/14 04:31 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yah! Good job man!
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: healing]
#20031209 - 05/23/14 04:53 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Why do you peel your cacti?
I think the waxy skin might add to nausea. At least I noticed considerably more nausea with tea made from whole cactus than when I ate strips like the ones pictured above. That could have come from the core though. 
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: c1dh3d]
#20031284 - 05/23/14 05:13 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: s240779]
#20040597 - 05/25/14 10:47 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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So after a good weekend away, excited to thaw out my cactus sickles from their second freeze/thaw cold shock, and get them in front of the fan. One thing I would advise which is probably pretty obvious once you start working with the thawed material, is to lightly squeeze the cactus over the contain to get the excess juices out. I didn't do this on the first few I pulled out and cut up in pieces, and noticed quickly that a good amount of juice soaked the news paper immediately, and was actually still dripping out of the catci chunks. Here is a picture to illustrate the amount of cactus juice we are talking:
Freezing and thawing produced a hell of a lot of cactus goo, and those strips are loaded with it as well
Cut the cactus up and slapped it into an old fruiting chamber with some newspaper, and in front of the fan it goes
Those strips were so water logged I had to ring them out for 2-3 minutes each, but eventually once I got into a groove I'd pick up a few at a time to ring out cut into chunks for drying. I poured all this liquid into a large mason jar, which will hold the isopropyl alcohol and dried cactus matter, for the sake of keeping all finalized product of the extraction equal in strength. Here are a couple pics of the haul in terms of cacti goo:
The liquid filled up to almost the 1.5 pint mark of this 5 pin mason jar
I would imagine slamming the liquid in this jar would be one HELL of a ride!
Very tempting to try a small sip, I will not lie The liquid actually did not smell too bad at all either, which surprised me a bit, that it smelled of fresh plant matter and not dead skunk nuts or whatever the tea tastes like, but I'm sure its still bitter. That cactus is amazingly juicy as well, even after ringing them out a bit, they were still oozing water in the dry chamber.
I don't have any specific iso extract procedure to follow yet, I just knew I had to get to this point, so I'll be checking that out tomorrow as I'm hoping the chunks will be dried by tomorrow night (though realistically I could see it taking til Tues / Weds).
That is all for now, if anyone wants to link to a tek they've used to check out for powdered dry cactus material I'd appreciate it, all suggestions welcome! I will update once extraction time comes around, I can hardly wait to begin that process, I love the process of creating something so beautiful 
Stay tuned!
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: c1dh3d]
#20040617 - 05/25/14 10:51 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yeah the meltwater isn't too bad for drinking. I know one guy that's all he does.
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: nicechrisman]
#20040764 - 05/25/14 11:29 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Would it be better to keep the melt water in liquid form and drink it up, or will an iso extract just reduce the volume with all the same goodies, if you know or have an opinion?
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: c1dh3d] 1
#20040771 - 05/25/14 11:30 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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You can simply reduce that meltwater to tar. No need for iso. You could use iso on the remaining plant material to extract the rest of the goodies out though.
I would use the iso for the plant material, reduce to resin, and take the resin and then drink the meltwater. Or you can just drink the meltwater by itself if you used enough cactus.
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Edited by nicechrisman (05/25/14 11:32 PM)
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: nicechrisman]
#20042340 - 05/26/14 10:58 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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What dehydrating substance could you put in a mescaline containing liquid such as tea,, that would absorb the water for the most part and leave most of the mescaline as a residue? That would be interesting
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
#20042443 - 05/26/14 11:24 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Right now a big hurdle for me is drying out the chunks of cactus strip, as they are so juicy they are barely drying, and I'd hate for these things to rot while I'm trying to dry them out.
I did put them in a much larger container with new newspaper this morning and kicked the fan on speed up to high, but they still seem to be pretty plump and exuding juices, but I plan to give them a bit longer under the fan before I resort to more drastic measures.
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: c1dh3d]
#20042568 - 05/26/14 12:00 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Could you press (and collect) the juice out of those strips with a big rock or a rolling pin or something?
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Edited by flickedbic (05/26/14 12:01 PM)
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: flickedbic]
#20042603 - 05/26/14 12:09 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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After taking a closer look at what's going on, it looks like the smaller ones dried fine, and the biggers ones are in fact slowly starting to dry (at least on the outside). I don't know if you'd want to squeeze all the juices out, so I'm hoping the chunkies start drying out fully soon here.
The next step will be to cut them up further, but they are so squishy and slimey right now, if I try that I'm going to in advertently lose more juices handling them. Right now they are starting to dry up a bit, so I'm going to keep that fan rocking on high and see what happens.
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
#20043018 - 05/26/14 02:05 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
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What dehydrating substance could you put in a mescaline containing liquid such as tea,, that would absorb the water for the most part and leave most of the mescaline as a residue? That would be interesting
Cool concept.
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Re: How to efficiently skin Bridgesii + Bridgesii porn (Pics!) [Re: KingKnowledge]
#20043079 - 05/26/14 02:21 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Make "chromatography balls" that can be added to the liquid and shaken to absorb the unnessential.
Maybe one could make a tar of the tea to lose water, rehydrate in alcohol or some easily evaporated liquid solvent for after the chromatography balls are removed?
Make it happen Shroomerians.
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2)Amanita (urine drank twice)
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4)Morning Glory-HBWR (+cumin, cinnamon aldehyde adducts) > Methyl chavicol (need more activators)
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Edited by flickedbic (05/26/14 02:54 PM)
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