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Mdahmer
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Lol you could also just use a clean spoon or something to break it p and spawn it to coir/verm or even just verm like in vybes tek.
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midnightmaraude
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Re: quick question [Re: Mdahmer]
#20024918 - 05/22/14 12:53 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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Mdahmer said: Lol you could also just use a clean spoon or something to break it p and spawn it to coir/verm or even just verm like in vybes tek.
I'll have to read about that
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DroolingRock
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The cons are geometry. You will not be able to get your cakes out of those jars without first breaking them up with a sterilized spoon or something. Uh, good luck with this one, I'm curious as to how you'll solve it.
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midnightmaraude
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DroolingRock said: The cons are geometry. You will not be able to get your cakes out of those jars without first breaking them up with a sterilized spoon or something. Uh, good luck with this one, I'm curious as to how you'll solve it.
I've been in "tighter" spots.
if it's a no go ill just use vybes tek. no biggie
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Psilicon
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His tek works, but I've never seen anyone say, "Man, I'm glad I did verm-cased brf trays before trying bulk. I don't know what I'd have done with all those mushrooms. "
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midnightmaraude
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Re: quick question [Re: Psilicon]
#20026316 - 05/22/14 06:21 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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van der griegen said: His tek works, but I've never seen anyone say, "Man, I'm glad I did verm-cased brf trays before trying bulk. I don't know what I'd have done with all those mushrooms. "
you all on this board have very conflicting view points.
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PsilocyBen17
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midnightmaraude said:
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van der griegen said: His tek works, but I've never seen anyone say, "Man, I'm glad I did verm-cased brf trays before trying bulk. I don't know what I'd have done with all those mushrooms. "
you all on this board have very conflicting view points.
Thats what makes us so damn smart :
welcome to the shroomery.
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Mdahmer
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For some stuff it's really preference and opinion based, other things are more solid. I'd say for the most mushrooms from those cakes since you pretty much have to break them up (unless you break the jar) is to spawn them to bulk of some kind. I did a few half pint bulks by mixing each cake with its own qt of 70/30 coir verm and it worked well.
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Re: quick question [Re: Mdahmer]
#20026471 - 05/22/14 06:54 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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Mdahmer said: For some stuff it's really preference and opinion based, other things are more solid. I'd say for the most mushrooms from those cakes since you pretty much have to break them up (unless you break the jar) is to spawn them to bulk of some kind. I did a few half pint bulks by mixing each cake with its own qt of 70/30 coir verm and it worked well.

Yes, we definitely do disagree on a lot. But almost all of us agree that a bulk substrate is better. Even if you forgo proper pasteurization and just bucket tek some coir/verm, you'll have better results. It really is as simple as mixing some coir in with the verm and then dumping hot water on it, and your results will be soooo much better. You'll be delighted you skipped fruiting cakes.
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midnightmaraude
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PsilocyBen17 said: dude. Give this shit up. Your recipe is totally stupid and is going to turn into a huge bacterial mess. Whoever told you to do that should be banned. Follow RR's videos for PF Tek. They are the golden standard.
The only thing more whack then putting coffee in your brf cakes was paying $55 for a syringe....

Wouldn't the sheer cost of it cause you to sit down and think "Hmm. Theres a lot of shit I could buy for $55. Maybe I shouldn't waste in on a recipe that everyone is telling me will fail and instead try it on a sure fire recipe so I can at least enjoy $55 worth of tripping"
Christ. 
well so far so good. I realize contams can show anytime but so far it's just beautiful myc!
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Yep, it does look like it's doing pretty well.
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avorg
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Looks good so far 
You didn't do yourself any favors by using that jar style, though.
Edited by avorg (05/23/14 07:35 PM)
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Mdahmer
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Re: quick question [Re: avorg]
#20031392 - 05/23/14 05:40 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yea I think people might have misunderstood about your recipe. To make sure you just used 50/50 coffe water right? With a normal 2-1-1 ratio of ingredients? I use 25& coffee in my water and works good. I think some people thought you put coffee grounds in your mix
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Re: quick question [Re: Mdahmer]
#20031418 - 05/23/14 05:48 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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I think the other problem was that people couldn't divide, and 3:1.5:1.5 looked busted to them.
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midnightmaraude
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Re: quick question [Re: Psilicon]
#20031707 - 05/23/14 07:10 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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van der griegen said: I think the other problem was that people couldn't divide, and 3:1.5:1.5 looked busted to them.
lol. true. yes it was 50/50 coffee,water blend. no grounds. and 1 tbsp of gypsum.
I don't know jack about mason jars except the 800ml I use for moonshine. so when I read half pint wide mouth I didn't know they had two different styles and this was the only tupe they had. I'll have to break em with a hammer is all.
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You sure? Because spawning to bulk and using those jars to make cherry bounce sounds like a much better plan than that to me.
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avorg
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Re: quick question [Re: Psilicon]
#20031853 - 05/23/14 07:37 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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Mdahmer
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Re: quick question [Re: avorg]
#20031874 - 05/23/14 07:41 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'll third that. Don't be nervous about spawning man it's not as daunting as it may seem and you will increase your yield. How many jars do you have total?
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PsilocyBen17
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Re: quick question [Re: Mdahmer]
#20031878 - 05/23/14 07:42 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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yea my bad bro sorry for the bad advice. I read your recipe quick and thought you put coffee IN your jars. Sorry man.
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midnightmaraude
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PsilocyBen17 said: yea my bad bro sorry for the bad advice. I read your recipe quick and thought you put coffee IN your jars. Sorry man.
it's all good
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