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InvisibleAdden
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Newbies and ratings
    #2002320 - 10/12/03 01:21 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

I've seen this happen to others, too. This is the second time a newbie/puppet has given me a 1 shroom rating based either on my handle or JTO Krew. I've never even talked to this guy and I don't want n00bs screwing up my rating. I know it's not really important in the big scheme of things, but I don't like fourteen year old douchebags slandering my reputation. And on a message board where all you see is a handle, an avatar, and a rating, some people who don't know you will judge you on what these assholes put. I've heard plenty of other people complain about newbs/puppets doing this. Is it time yet for a 1-3 month suspension period in which new users cannot rate, but only be rated?

Another question, if all of a user's posts disappear when they unregister, why do their ratings remain?

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Re: Newbies and ratings [Re: Adden]
    #2002410 - 10/12/03 02:25 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

you know what pisses me off, people that have trade ratings that havent traded a thing with anyone. One of their friends will just give them 5 trade shrooms just because he likes looking at the green mushrooms. I know there isnt really anything you can do about it, but it completely defeats the idea behind a trade rate. I've seen at least 10 newbies with bogus trade rates. alright im done venting


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Re: Newbies and ratings [Re: Infrared]
    #2002545 - 10/12/03 03:49 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

I agree with both of you...but unfortunately that's just the nature of the beast (so to speak) an there's really nothing that can be done about it. I mean - I could have easily given myself green shrooms a long time ago, but I didn't. I might not have done a whole hell of a lot to earn the ones that I have now, but it definately wasn't just some friend of mine doing me a favor - I actually had to earn em. And I know ratings in general shouldn't even matter, but it does get to be an annoyance when you're trying to build a good rep for yourself and some noob gets a hair up their ass about some piddly shit an rates you low for it. It would be nice to be able to just virtual-slap the fuck outta em in times like that.

Seeing as you can't do anything like that though - I propose we start an aliance or something (get maybe 100 or so people involved if at all possible) and then anytime someone with say, 500 posts or less, gives somebody else a poor rating without having a good reason - we all just gang up on em and destroy their rating forever.

that would be cool  :smile2:


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Re: Newbies and ratings [Re: Infrared]
    #2002752 - 10/12/03 05:28 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

> you know what pisses me off, people that have trade ratings that havent traded a thing with anyone ... I've seen at least 10 newbies with bogus trade rates

If anyone notices this happening, they should PM an administrator and when appropriate we will delete the rate and deal with the culprit in accordance with the On Banning clause in the AR&G.

While we can't keep watch over the whole system, we take trade rates seriously as they are important in determining the risk factor involved for Marketplace transactions.


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Re: Newbies and ratings [Re: geokills]
    #2002974 - 10/12/03 07:04 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

cool, thanks geo. I dont really mind regular rates too much, but a lot of people here use trade rates as a good way to judge a persons character by how well they trade with others. and if you cant trust the trade rates your pretty much SOL trying to figure out if someone has plans to rip you off. If i see any of those people with bogus rates i will definately pm you or another mod, I would have done so before but i was unaware that you could do anything about it.


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Re: Newbies and ratings [Re: Adden]
    #2002996 - 10/12/03 07:12 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

I removed the one obvious rating given to you by a puppet, otherwise the other negetive ratings is from a seemingly real user.


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Re: Newbies and ratings [Re: Thor]
    #2003038 - 10/12/03 07:32 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

I've got a bad rating from an obvious puppet, synaesthysia. not that i really care but, its annoying having a bad rating from someone ive never even talked to once. and just to point out hal8000 and synaethysia are both obviously puppets if you care.


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Re: Newbies and ratings [Re: Infrared]
    #2003851 - 10/13/03 12:29 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

How can you be sure they are a puppets?

Its like a witch hunt when it comes to accusing people of being a puppet, people are quick to accuse without anything other than a gut feeling.

We as an administration need more than "I'm pretty sure they are puppets" to take action.


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Re: Newbies and ratings [Re: Thor]
    #2003928 - 10/13/03 12:49 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

IP log matches???


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Re: Newbies and ratings [Re: Cow Shit Collector]
    #2003938 - 10/13/03 12:54 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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Cow Shit Collector said:
IP log matches???




Anonymizer proxy.

Lots of ways to hide your identity.


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Re: Newbies and ratings [Re: Thor]
    #2003986 - 10/13/03 01:09 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

I'm probably saying too much here, but we have a large DNA database that we use to identify puppets. Remember those smallpox vaccinations you got when you were younger? Well, when those vaccinations were taken, a very small skin and blood sample was taken as well; the DNA was sequenced; and records were sent to the Shadow Government, and to The Shroomery.

Thor and I have plans to eliminate all of the puppets in big operation. You will know when this day has arrived because the CDC will report an outbreak of an extremely contagious and deadly disease. FEMA will declare marshal law, and the national guard will be deployed. Curfews and travel restrictions will be employed, and it is at this time, while people are trapped in their homes, and the press is distracted, that The Shroomery covert death squads will sneak into the homes of all puppeteers and dispatch them all, quickly and mercifully, in their sleep.


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Re: Newbies and ratings [Re: Thor]
    #2004153 - 10/13/03 02:01 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

read some of synaethysia's posts, he is either the biggest jackass in the world or is just a puppet made exclusivly to piss people off. either way he should be banned. and hal8000 said he was a girl when he first started posting and now all of a sudden he said he is a guy, and didnt someone else have a puppet named hal10000 or something? hal8000 i cant be sure of, but most people agree that synaethysia is a puppet. i dont have anything against puppets im not on some crusade here, but it just pisses me off when people have nothing better to do then to create a handle just to annoy and be rude to everyone here.


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Re: Newbies and ratings [Re: Infrared]
    #2004218 - 10/13/03 02:28 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Synaesthesia is an account of a user who had his last account retired -- think back a month or two. As for Hal8000, we have working theories, but I can say no more about that at this time.

The other HAL-series puppets you are thinking about are:

HAL_9000 - The shroomery computer - my puppet from over a year ago when puppets were allowed.

HAL9000 - A puppet by a known Marketplace scammer (all his accounts have been banned).

We have on-going, and continuing, investigations on a wide range of member accounts, and that's all I can say at this time...

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Re: Newbies and ratings [Re: Thor]
    #2004370 - 10/13/03 03:31 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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nonymizer proxy.

Lots of ways to hide your identity.




I just figured your average 'run of the mill' puppet wouldnt go to any lengths or have any kind of know how

Although, many times, puppets have a use other than just deviance. IE: Grow logs (for security)

I'm just glad every effort is used to stifle potential scammers...


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Re: Newbies and ratings [Re: Papaver]
    #2004700 - 10/13/03 10:08 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

dispatching all Shroomery puppeteers will bring our community down to about 12 people...myself being two of em  :wink: 


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Re: Newbies and ratings [Re: Infrared]
    #2004707 - 10/13/03 10:10 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

deep blue, i'm so sick of your bitching and whining in every post about "ban him", "he is offensive!", "that one is OBVIOUSLY a puppet"

you make yourself seem extremely dull, just because you can't fathom what some people say doesn't mean others don't enjoy it.

while we are on this note, papaver didn't you say that all confirmed hippies would be banned? well deepblue is definitely a hippie wanna-be, and should be exterminated for the good of the shroomery. thank you.


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Re: Newbies and ratings [Re: ]
    #2004937 - 10/13/03 12:39 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

alright you got me, ban me. sorry looner, but i dont remember ever seeing you post in any other forum besides otd. you are the one whos worthless to the community. and like i said im not trying to go on some crusade against puppets. they have their uses for growlogs and such, like someone stated. but people who consistently act like a jackass to lots of memebers just fucking pisses me off. im sorry you have no life, go find something better to do than to harass contributing members of the community, and think before you post next time.


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Re: Newbies and ratings [Re: Infrared]
    #2005064 - 10/13/03 01:39 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Don't worry, if Looner doesnt like you its the ultimate compliment at the shroomery :wink:


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Re: Newbies and ratings [Re: Thor]
    #2005305 - 10/13/03 03:06 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

LoLz! :grin:

And, LoOner should stop putting words in my mouth. Some of my best friends are hippies. :smile:


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Re: Newbies and ratings [Re: Papaver]
    #2005380 - 10/13/03 03:31 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

i'm sorry papaver


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