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magic mushroom legalization
    #17295845 - 11/28/12 08:21 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

https://petitions.whiteh...magic-mushrooms/DL4XxQjF

Its time to stand up for our rights to use harmless substances Please feel free to signand pass this petition along!


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Re: magic mushroom legalization [Re: magicguide]
    #17295850 - 11/28/12 08:23 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Government doesn't want people to oepn their minds. they want to keep us dumb and numb on alcohol and fast food so they can stay in control. It is a nice thought though.


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Re: magic mushroom legalization [Re: Icepic]
    #17295872 - 11/28/12 08:30 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah I know I just hate seeing them illegal. I figured throwing something out is better than nothing.


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Re: magic mushroom legalization [Re: Icepic] * 1
    #17295879 - 11/28/12 08:30 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

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Icepic said:
they want to keep us dumb and numb on alcohol and fast food so they can stay in control.




It's not really a convincing explanation of why drug laws exist.:shrug:


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Re: magic mushroom legalization [Re: fireworks_god] * 1
    #17295956 - 11/28/12 09:01 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Why people are foolish enough to believe that online petitions do jack shit, is a mystery to any rational human.


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Re: magic mushroom legalization [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #17296281 - 11/28/12 10:42 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

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luvdemshrooms said:
Why people are foolish enough to believe that online petitions do jack shit, is a mystery to any rational human.




I don't anticipate this petition actually resulting in the legalization of any substance. But as psychonauts/philosophers/whatever-"we"-are we need to promote an open debate about drug policy and show people our numbers. Even if it just ends up as some article in a paper titled "50,000 retards want to legalize drugs" it would help get the message across. ya dig?


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Re: magic mushroom legalization [Re: dizzy_simmons] * 2
    #17296303 - 11/28/12 10:51 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Right. Get the message across to whom?

The same legislators who don't give a shit about online petitions?

You're simply kidding yourself.


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Re: magic mushroom legalization [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #17296315 - 11/28/12 10:54 AM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Your Online Petition Is Useless
Heather Horn  Aug 12, 2010
Back away from the keyboard. That online petition you're about to sign is "pretty much a sham." Says who? Clay Johnson at InfoVegan, for starters. Johnson is something of a Web organization specialist, having worked on developing the online strategy for both Howard Dean's and Barack Obama's presidential campaigns. "According to the Congressional Management Foundation," writes Johnson, "the House of Representatives got 99,053,399 messages via the Internet in 2004." Your petition really isn't going to get read; the reason organizations try so hard to get you to sign it is that "politicians and advocacy groups value your email address over your voice." In fact:

    It's the great lie of online organizing: that your voice to Congress or your voice to whomever can make a difference. It can, it should, but not through them. Nearly every organization in Washington is focused on one thing--inventing new and interesting ways to get your email address. And they want your email address so that they can ask you for money. The truth is: my.barackobama.com was and still is, the most sophisticated suite of tools designed primarily to capture your email address and ask you for money.

    Online organizers for political groups are trained to recognize "strategic moments"--to find events in the media and in the national narrative that they can use to their advantage. ... The most basic and common method for political organizations to get your email address is via a petition.


So what's a civic-minded person to do? "Skip the advocacy groups," advises Johnson. "If you have something to say to Congress, house.gov gives you a method as does senate.gov." Or, "if you have something to say to Google," or some other corporation, "contact them yourself."


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Re: magic mushroom legalization [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #17313919 - 12/01/12 09:43 AM (11 years, 1 month ago)

lets focus on marijuana first. then we can move to other drugs


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Re: magic mushroom legalization [Re: smalltownkid096]
    #17314250 - 12/01/12 11:13 AM (11 years, 1 month ago)

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lets focus on marijuana first. then we can move to other drugs



:thumbup: It will be a long time I think before psychedelics are legal.


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Re: magic mushroom legalization [Re: Gilgamesh18]
    #17314650 - 12/01/12 12:51 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

So quick and easy to outlaw, and yet such an uphill battle in the legalization direction. :frown:


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Re: magic mushroom legalization [Re: Gilgamesh18]
    #17316308 - 12/01/12 06:02 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

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lets focus on marijuana first. then we can move to other drugs



:thumbup: It will be a long time I think before psychedelics are legal.




If weed legalization becomes the norm, then the public stigma about "drugs" will have weakened immensely.  IMO more people will be encouraged to take an honest look at these various controlled substances once they see that legal weed didn't cause the apocalypse.  This could be the gust of wind that gets the ball rolling.


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Re: magic mushroom legalization [Re: Sleepwalker]
    #17324709 - 12/03/12 02:10 AM (11 years, 1 month ago)

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Gilgamesh18 said:
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smalltownkid096 said:
lets focus on marijuana first. then we can move to other drugs



:thumbup: It will be a long time I think before psychedelics are legal.




If weed legalization becomes the norm, then the public stigma about "drugs" will have weakened immensely.  IMO more people will be encouraged to take an honest look at these various controlled substances once they see that legal weed didn't cause the apocalypse.  This could be the gust of wind that gets the ball rolling.



They call weed a gate way drug for a reason.:burke:


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Re: magic mushroom legalization (moved) [Re: magicguide]
    #17325208 - 12/03/12 06:57 AM (11 years, 1 month ago)

This thread was moved from Political Discussion.

Reason:
This has progressed past the point of political action and into the realm of debate about drug policy. Hence, it is being transferred to Drug Policy Reform.


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Re: magic mushroom legalization [Re: Sleepwalker]
    #17347510 - 12/06/12 10:48 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

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Sleepwalker said:
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Gilgamesh18 said:
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smalltownkid096 said:
lets focus on marijuana first. then we can move to other drugs



:thumbup: It will be a long time I think before psychedelics are legal.




If weed legalization becomes the norm, then the public stigma about "drugs" will have weakened immensely.  IMO more people will be encouraged to take an honest look at these various controlled substances once they see that legal weed didn't cause the apocalypse.  This could be the gust of wind that gets the ball rolling.



Even today there is a lot of misconception about marijuana let alone other drugs. I find it easy to become disconnected from the average person when I frequent these boards alot because we all pretty much agree that pyschs should be legal. However from some of my discussions with average folk as it were I don't psychedelics entering the picture for a while.


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Re: magic mushroom legalization [Re: Gilgamesh18]
    #17348023 - 12/07/12 01:03 AM (11 years, 1 month ago)

I agree, most people know next to nothing about these drugs and just assume that since they are illegal, it must be for our own good.  All illegal drugs get lumped together and so it becomes common thought that all illegal drugs are addictive and deadly.  There is a lot of negative stigma that needs to be overcome and it will definitely take time.


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Re: magic mushroom legalization [Re: Sleepwalker]
    #17348958 - 12/07/12 09:10 AM (11 years, 1 month ago)

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I agree, most people know next to nothing about these drugs and just assume that since they are illegal, it must be for our own good.  All illegal drugs get lumped together and so it becomes common thought that all illegal drugs are addictive and deadly.  There is a lot of negative stigma that needs to be overcome and it will definitely take time.



Yep we just have to set a good example


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Re: magic mushroom legalization [Re: Gilgamesh18]
    #17358590 - 12/09/12 12:35 AM (11 years, 1 month ago)

Had this thought ever popped into your mind?
-Yesthe government seems hopeless and like a bunch of morons and fucksticks but what if a while ago they came to some kind of conclusion. Now they are playing dumb doin all sorts of dumb shit and want to test us as a people to see if we still have what it takes to advocate and unite as a whole to get what we want and deserve and everything is a big joke on us?


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Re: magic mushroom legalization [Re: Dough]
    #17363073 - 12/09/12 06:20 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

Nothing is useless but being hopeless and giving up faith

we already legalized pot in 2 states, we have medical mairjuana in a ton of them

do any of you know that story about the camels back and straws ? be a straw .

THE LINK however does not work, what is the link?


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Re: magic mushroom legalization [Re: magicguide]
    #20018989 - 05/21/14 07:40 AM (9 years, 8 months ago)

IMO the two biggest reasons they are illegal is are fear of mushrooms and mind altering substances in our western culture and the fact that blame can be placed on them. ( ex. When magic mushrooms were made illegal in the Netherlands)  Correct me if I am wrong, but it also about the $$$$


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