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lysergic
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JonnyOnTheSpot said: "Sadly, I'm sure not even this wil lconvince you. Typical liberal, the US can do no good, the evil dictators can do n wrong."
funny you should say that since in your mind and many other conservative followers minds you think the US can't possibly do any wrong and you will hate anyone that bush tells you to. Typical conservative i guess...
You do realize that since the war on terror started the US government has killed something like 5 times more innocent civilans than the 9/11 attacks did...you realize this right?
and the government did it all without catching saddam or bin laden, AND without finding ANY WMD's
I guess it's time to invade iran eh?
i'm still waiting for proof of these 15,000 people that 'we' killed.
-------------------- In response to an attack killing 15 American Servicemen PsiloKitten said: Just give em a little more time, the iraqis are making great progress. And this is unorganized. Wait till they get organized.
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Re: Iraq: the lies go on [Re: lysergic]
#2007092 - 10/14/03 12:00 AM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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Your analogy proves MY point, fuckwit
Calm down lys.
So is the current administration prosecuting the 80's administration for supporting Saddam?
And btw, is it prosecuting itself for invading Iraq under false pretences with no legal justification? Or for killing thousands of innocent civilians in Afghanistan? Or will that wait for the next administration to say "That wasn't us".
There has to be some accountability here lys. You simply can't have any credibility Bush saying "Saddam gassed people" when Bush's father was the one selling him the chemicals.
I also said that, since Saddam himself was the one that authorized the gassing ofthe Kurds, it was HIS fault
Well, apart from the CIA concluding it was the Iranians who gassed the Kurds.
Incidentally, Saddam is free and thousands of innocent civilians are dead. Your point being...?
You are a nitwit. Do you live with mommy and daddy still?
Take it easy lys, you're getting heated.
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Re: Iraq: the lies go on [Re: Xlea321]
#2007432 - 10/14/03 02:03 AM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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To Lys
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I'm sure you wouldn't chastize the current leader of Germany for the holocaust, or the invasion of Europe, would you?
We still haven't forgive the Nazi for the holocaust nor the invasion of Europe. I think you need to read up abit on the history of Europe. German leaders today IS not Nazi, therefore can't be blame for nor the invasion nor the Holocaust. As a European meself there is not one day passing by that I don't see on TV or see on the Internet, about the WW2.
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Re: Iraq: the lies go on [Re: lysergic]
#2007466 - 10/14/03 02:18 AM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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Dont pretend you were in Afghanistan. It is blatantly obvious from your tone and your level of intelligence that you are in the 14-18 age bracket. Even if you were, the hearsay of a few soldiers hardly consitutes a valuable, verifiable source does it? Quote:
I have no fucking idea how old Bush is, and it's entirely irrelavent to the post.
But in an earlier post you said.... Quote:
Bush Jr was barely alive during 'nam, so he certaintly shouldn't take any blame for it.
Perhaps you are implying that most of what you say is irrelevant? Quote:
I read that link that was posted. I'm not sure what you think that proves, other than, again, the current administraion members had no involvement with the deployment of chemical or bilogical weapons? He was AGAINST the war, hard to tie the in with him being involved in using NBC weapons over there?(edited by Rono)
You cant remember what you originally said and are too stupid to check. If you had read my post you would be well aware that I understood Rummy was supposedly anti-war back then, hence my comment "God knows what happened to old Rummy along the way...must be something to do with ageing in the most violent nation on Earth. " Here is your point which I was disproving: Quote:
1) Do you recognize that the current US administration had no dealings with, effect on, or power over, the situation or events that took place in Vietnam?
So you see it doesnt matter if Rumsfeld was pro or anti-war, he was involved with the Vietnam war which proves you wrong. I am basically highlighting your gross ignorance in the history of your own country. Me and Alex are English, you see, but we both seem to have a firmer grasp on some basic facts regarding your own country than you do. Now run along and go and play with your G.I Joe and G.W Bush action figures...
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Xlea321
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Re: Iraq: the lies go on [Re: GazzBut]
#2007946 - 10/14/03 09:41 AM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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Isn't lysergic some other kid who used to be on the board? was it johnnyrespect?
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lysergic
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Re: Iraq: the lies go on [Re: Xlea321]
#2008428 - 10/14/03 01:52 PM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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I wasn't in Afghanistan, at least not during the war-times. I did my service in Iraq and other regions around our beautiful world. In the early 90', I did travel through Afghanistan for a few weeks, then onto Pakistan, India, Nepal, Tibet.
Gazz- When you discredit everything I say as not coming from a "valuable, verifiable source", but you don't offer any comment upon what you WOULD consider valuable, or verifable, you make it impossible to prove. Any media source that I"d use would be, in your ignorant world view, slanted and/or controlled by the Bush Conspiracy (or the aliens, or the people thatp lanted the chip in your brain). Since you've already conditioned yourself to not belive anything positive about our actions in AFghanistan, anything I post that contrdicts that will, somehow, be part of the "conspiracy", tho conspiracy to do what, I don't know As for me being 14-18 I'll offer you the chance to be absolutely sure of the fact that I'm not. If you'd like to meet in person (No, I'm not drawing youout for a fight, I'm suggesting a meeting so you can verify my age), I'd be happy to. Tho I'm sure if I showed up with all of my USMC medals, my birth certificate, and my SS card, you'd probably assume that it's all part of the massive government conspiracy, and yet another government lie
-------------------- In response to an attack killing 15 American Servicemen PsiloKitten said: Just give em a little more time, the iraqis are making great progress. And this is unorganized. Wait till they get organized.
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Re: Iraq: the lies go on [Re: GazzBut]
#2008451 - 10/14/03 02:02 PM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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If I see one more fuckin flame in this thread, heads are gonna roll...Learn how to argue intelligently or leave.
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lysergic
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Re: Iraq: the lies go on [Re: GazzBut]
#2008459 - 10/14/03 02:05 PM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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GazzBut said: Dont pretend you were in Afghanistan. It is blatantly obvious from your tone and your level of intelligence that you are in the 14-18 age bracket. Even if you were, the hearsay of a few soldiers hardly consitutes a valuable, verifiable source does it?
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I have no fucking idea how old Bush is, and it's entirely irrelavent to the post.
But in an earlier post you said....
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Bush Jr was barely alive during 'nam, so he certaintly shouldn't take any blame for it.
Perhaps you are implying that most of what you say is irrelevant?
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I read that link that was posted. I'm not sure what you think that proves, other than, again, the current administraion members had no involvement with the deployment of chemical or bilogical weapons? He was AGAINST the war, hard to tie the in with him being involved in using NBC weapons over there?(edited by Rono)
You cant remember what you originally said and are too stupid to check. If you had read my post you would be well aware that I understood Rummy was supposedly anti-war back then, hence my comment "God knows what happened to old Rummy along the way...must be something to do with ageing in the most violent nation on Earth. " Here is your point which I was disproving:
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1) Do you recognize that the current US administration had no dealings with, effect on, or power over, the situation or events that took place in Vietnam?
So you see it doesnt matter if Rumsfeld was pro or anti-war, he was involved with the Vietnam war which proves you wrong. I am basically highlighting your gross ignorance in the history of your own country. Me and Alex are English, you see, but we both seem to have a firmer grasp on some basic facts regarding your own country than you do.
Now run along and go and play with your G.I Joe and G.W Bush action figures...
They make Bush Action figures? no shit! Hook me up with the URL
-------------------- In response to an attack killing 15 American Servicemen PsiloKitten said: Just give em a little more time, the iraqis are making great progress. And this is unorganized. Wait till they get organized.
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Re: Iraq: the lies go on [Re: lysergic]
#2009080 - 10/14/03 05:37 PM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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When you discredit everything I say as not coming from a "valuable, verifiable source", but you don't offer any comment upon what you WOULD consider valuable, or verifable, you make it impossible to prove.
But what verifiable sources have you actually used? Its is common practice on these boards to try and provide links etc that may back up your claims...until you actually do this how can I say whether Im going to discredit them or not. But im afraid quoting your buddies in the army as proof that the Afghans are more free is patently a poor, unverifiable source.
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Re: Iraq: the lies go on [Re: lysergic]
#2009086 - 10/14/03 05:38 PM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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They make Bush Action figures? no shit! Hook me up with the URL
Yes they do! Aint that neat. Any chance of you addressing the other points in my post?
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Re: Iraq: the lies go on [Re: Xlea321]
#2009088 - 10/14/03 05:40 PM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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He does seem very similar to old Johnny. I think he disappeared after most of his arguements had been systematically dismantled, surely he wouldnt come back for more!
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Re: Iraq: the lies go on [Re: GazzBut]
#2009216 - 10/14/03 06:29 PM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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I wasn't in the Army, I was in the Marine Corps. Quite a difference. The main links that I've found realting to the freedoms now enjoyed by Afghani's are from the main media outlets, and I'm sure that they are part of the conspiracy. Socialist-Marxist literature (the only thing you'd believe) don't allude to it, but that is because they are slanted. *Shrug* you arent' really worht my time. Nanner Nanner Boo Boo, we won, bush will win the election again, and whining sniveling cowardly liberals will be just that :-)
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Re: Iraq: the lies go on [Re: lysergic]
#2009256 - 10/14/03 06:41 PM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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I was in the Marine Corps.
Thanks,that explains a lot.
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Re: Iraq: the lies go on [Re: lysergic]
#2010066 - 10/14/03 10:24 PM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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lysergic said: It's also the "past"
I'm sure that my "fighting" skills greatly outweight my debating skills. You could ask a few Iraqi's about my proficiency with a rifle inthe Marines (2nd Recon batallion), but they probably aren't in a condition to answer you :-) Anyway, special forces Marine here, shit talking done to my face is what I prefer.
HAHAHAHAHAHHA you pathetic ass bitch
my dad could definitely beat up your dad though
and i have a longer dick than you
and i've fucked more bitches than you
and i can drink a shitload more than you
yep
yeah thats about it
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Re: Iraq: the lies go on [Re: ]
#2010112 - 10/14/03 10:42 PM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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Sigh.
Time to get this thread back on topic.
I suggest everyone re-read Rono's sticky post at the top of the first page before making their next post to this thread.
pinky
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