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Offlinewingnutx
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Leading Democrats Weigh In on Iraq
    #2001068 - 10/11/03 09:44 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998.

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998.

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998.

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998.

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998.

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destrution and palaces for his cronies."
Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999.

"There is no doubt that . Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and others, Dec, 5, 2001.

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them."
Sen. Carl Levin (d, MI), Sept. 19, 2002.

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002.

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002.

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seing and developing weapons of mass destruction."
Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002.

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002.

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force ? if necessary ? to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002.

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years . We also should remember we have alway s underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
Sen. Jay Rockerfeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002,

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do."
Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002.

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction. "[W]ithout question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation. And now he has continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ...
Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003.

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Re: Leading Democrats Weigh In on Iraq [Re: wingnutx]
    #2001082 - 10/11/03 09:50 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

From October 10, 2002, here's an extract from Tom Daschle's case for agreeing with the administration's rationale for war:

"The threat posed by Saddam Hussein may not be imminent, but it is real, it is growing, and it cannot be ignored."

http://www.daschle.senate.gov/sd_defense_iraq1.htm


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Re: Leading Democrats Weigh In on Iraq [Re: wingnutx]
    #2002564 - 10/12/03 03:57 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Bu... Buh.. buh... the liberals told me bush was lying about those WMD's! Whats wrong? mommy, did the liberals lie to us AGAIN?


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Just give em a little more time, the iraqis are making great progress. And this is unorganized. Wait till they get organized.


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Re: Leading Democrats Weigh In on Iraq [Re: lysergic]
    #2002567 - 10/12/03 03:58 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Interesting that none of the "usual suspects" in this forum are even commenting about this.  Ignoring the truth is the same aslying to yourself :smile:


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Just give em a little more time, the iraqis are making great progress. And this is unorganized. Wait till they get organized.


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Re: Leading Democrats Weigh In on Iraq [Re: lysergic]
    #2002569 - 10/12/03 03:58 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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Whats wrong? mommy, did the liberals lie to us AGAIN?



No, son. Bush did. Or at least he's the one who led us to war based on lies.


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Re: Leading Democrats Weigh In on Iraq [Re: silversoul7]
    #2002581 - 10/12/03 04:02 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

buh.. buh... bush did the war for oil and halliburton and cheney... bu... whu... the liberals don't mention that clinton bombed the shit out of iraq for the same reason bush does. Of course, with clintons long running history of truth-telling, all of his statements could very well be bullshit. MAybe he was in the "oral" office at the time, and not paying any attention to the state of the world.


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Just give em a little more time, the iraqis are making great progress. And this is unorganized. Wait till they get organized.


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Re: Leading Democrats Weigh In on Iraq [Re: lysergic]
    #2002585 - 10/12/03 04:04 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Uh, those same lies that Clinton and Co used to lead us to war?


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Re: Leading Democrats Weigh In on Iraq [Re: lysergic]
    #2002587 - 10/12/03 04:05 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

No, Clinton bombed Iraq because Saddam kicked the weapons inspectors out. Bush INVADED(as opposed to bombing) because he claimed he had PROOF that Iraq had WMD's, which, by the way, we still have yet to find. There's a difference.


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Re: Leading Democrats Weigh In on Iraq [Re: silversoul7]
    #2002640 - 10/12/03 04:28 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Sssuurrre.. keep tellin yourself that :smile:


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Re: Leading Democrats Weigh In on Iraq [Re: lysergic]
    #2002689 - 10/12/03 04:58 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

I don't have to. The media will tell me that, as will future history books, cuz it's the truth.


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Re: Leading Democrats Weigh In on Iraq [Re: lysergic]
    #2002927 - 10/12/03 06:44 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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Whats wrong? mommy, did the liberals lie to us AGAIN?




I've rarely known one who didn't either lie outright or exaggerate severely.(Speaking of the media darlings or party powerful that is) Many of the rest are merely gullible.


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Re: Leading Democrats Weigh In on Iraq [Re: silversoul7]
    #2002935 - 10/12/03 06:46 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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Or at least he's the one who led us to war based on lies.



Bush may be an ass when it comes to conservative values but no-one has yet PROVED he lied.

Wouldn't you like someone who called you a liar be able to back up his claim with actual proof?


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Re: Leading Democrats Weigh In on Iraq [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2002939 - 10/12/03 06:49 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

We haven't proved that Bush lied, no. But we know that the intelligence he based this war on was pure bullshit. Therefore we went to war based on lies.


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Re: Leading Democrats Weigh In on Iraq [Re: silversoul7]
    #2002962 - 10/12/03 06:58 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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But we know that the intelligence he based this war on was pure bullshit.



You should take a moment and look up the definition of "proof."

No-one has proved that either.

There is lots of speculation and conjecture, but no proof that will stand on it's own.


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Re: Leading Democrats Weigh In on Iraq [Re: silversoul7]
    #2002965 - 10/12/03 07:00 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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No, Clinton bombed Iraq because Saddam kicked the weapons inspectors out.



And he blew up an aspirin factory to distract the citizens from his blow-job.


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Re: Leading Democrats Weigh In on Iraq [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2002967 - 10/12/03 07:01 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

^^^True, just like Bush invaded Iraq to distract the nation from the bad economy.


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Re: Leading Democrats Weigh In on Iraq [Re: silversoul7]
    #2002973 - 10/12/03 07:04 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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silversoul7 said:
^^^True, just like Bush invaded Iraq to distract the nation from the bad economy.



Prove it.


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Re: Leading Democrats Weigh In on Iraq [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2002979 - 10/12/03 07:06 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

First prove that the apirin-factory bombing had to do with Monica.


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Re: Leading Democrats Weigh In on Iraq [Re: silversoul7]
    #2003001 - 10/12/03 07:13 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

I asked you first. Feel free.

I'm sure that answer will disappoint you so try this.... look up the date of the bombing and the date of the grand jury trial.


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Re: Leading Democrats Weigh In on Iraq [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2003008 - 10/12/03 07:17 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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I'm sure that answer will disappoint you so try this.... look up the date of the bombing and the date of the grand jury trial.



So what? That doesn't prove anything anymore than the fact that the economy was in the shitter when Bush invaded Iraq.


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