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Re: Why is rape wrong? [Re: johnm214] * 1
    #20003076 - 05/17/14 08:25 PM (9 years, 9 months ago)

Oh fucking golly gee wizz, calling OC a troll is hardly "insulting" and I find it amusing you made half your post about it when I even attempted to make a "serious" post. It was a light comment not to be taken seriously.

Hell, Rose told me all the posts in here are "trolls" to evoke responses from people. Now I have two mods telling me two different things, who do I go by? Oh no, mod discretion is winning here, I am so confused! :smirk:

Rape isn't good period, I don't agree with your sentiment that it's even good for the raper to fulfill such a desire. Afterall, he might just meet a fucking deranged person who'd torture him for weeks on end.

He might fulfill his desire, but fulfilling a dangerous desire is only briefly satisfying. Can you even call that GOOD? That takes away the entire notion of the word good. It isn't good. It is satisfying, but satisfying isn't notionally good, because you pointed it out: Fucked up people do fucked up shit and it satisfies them. Is that good? Nope.

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Re: Why is rape wrong? [Re: Uzziel]
    #20003111 - 05/17/14 08:37 PM (9 years, 9 months ago)

Take your complaints about the moderating to another thread or to my journal. Leave this thread for discussion of the topic.

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Re: Why is rape wrong? [Re: johnm214]
    #20003191 - 05/17/14 09:01 PM (9 years, 9 months ago)

I am not complaining about the moderating and I am discussing the topic, I gave a response which you completely ignored in responding but thanks for the tip

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Re: Why is rape wrong? [Re: Uzziel]
    #20005814 - 05/18/14 02:09 PM (9 years, 9 months ago)

because you don't own the woman or man.
what do I win?
ive been raped before. they shoved a catheter up my penis the doctors did and choked me.

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Re: Why is rape wrong? [Re: spawm]
    #20007572 - 05/18/14 10:32 PM (9 years, 9 months ago)

If OP feels rape is not wrong, I hope OP is either raped or his loved one is raped. Maybe then he will understand.


My girlfriend was dosed with LSD then raped. She got pregnant, had the child, and has been a wonderful mother ever since. But her experience was horrifying and she never met the father.

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Re: Why is rape wrong? [Re: squat]
    #20007812 - 05/18/14 11:41 PM (9 years, 9 months ago)

Despite your negative fantasies, an intelligent reader would realize this topic had nothing to do with rape and everything to do with the 'it's natural' fallacy.

Not surprising that you missed the obvious. :ohwell:


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Re: Why is rape wrong? [Re: Uzziel]
    #20008578 - 05/19/14 05:18 AM (9 years, 9 months ago)

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Uzziel said:
I am not complaining about the moderating and I am discussing the topic,





Ok, well then cut out whatever it is you call this:

Oh fucking golly gee wizz, calling OC a troll is hardly "insulting" and I find it amusing you made half your post about it when I even attempted to make a "serious" post. It was a light comment not to be taken seriously.

Hell, Rose told me all the posts in here are "trolls" to evoke responses from people. Now I have two mods telling me two different things, who do I go by? Oh no, mod discretion is winning here, I am so confused! :smirk:



Take it to a feedback thread or my journal, I'm not discussing this here and don't want others to do so either.  Thanks.



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I gave a response which you completely ignored in responding but thanks for the tip




The problem isn't that you didn't address the topic, its that you introduced other issues not relevant to the topic- moderator inconsistanties et cet.

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Re: Why is rape wrong? [Re: johnm214]
    #20008715 - 05/19/14 07:04 AM (9 years, 9 months ago)

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johnm214 said:
I don't know, I always figured it was tied in with cultural repression of sexuality.  Not just women, but women are probably more prone to it given the particular societal burdens/norms that treat women sexuality a bit uncomfortably and the expectation that they should be hard to get, pure, not have many parterns, et cet.

Many women feel conflicted about their sexuality, their upbringing and cultural norms telling them its something that should be suppressed and not something that should be expressed with anyone other than perhaps a husband in private.

When they are dominated sexually, it can probably fulfill a psychological need to attribute the sexual behavior to their partner, rather than them.  Many women like to feel dominated in sexual situations, and I'd imagine the whips and choking and all that is just a further point on the same spectrum that fulfills the same need.

I would expect the exact same to thing to explain why some male's like that stuff too.  Uncomfortable with their own sexuality they seek out such relationships where they don't have to feel "dirty" or "perverted" in seeking sex, which they regard with aprehnsion, disgust, and shame.  When whipped or dominated by a woman, they don't need to own their own desire and sexuality- they are just a passive object, not participating, or only fulfilling the needs of someone else, hence lessening the dissonance experienced between their sexual needs and psychological aversion.




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