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more challenges for i-d specialists
    #1999740 - 10/11/03 10:58 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

i went on an organised hunt today in a major London park called Hampstead Heath. it?s huge - i got split off and lost from the main party soon enough, unfortunately, and spent most of the time with just my other half, running from bears and cobras, and putting everything we found in a paper sack.

eating-wise, there was honey fungus, ink caps and a few unidentified boletes. no real goodies  :frown:. i identified sulphur tuft, a few oysters, birch polypores, and (with the group) rhodotus palmatus. the two main ones i was looking for (fly agaric and laetiporus sulphureus) never showed up.

here?s some of what was in the bag - any takers? please bear in mind that these are shot with a cheapass webcam, ten minutes ago, on my computer table. david bailey is safe from shirley knott.

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i?m well aware of how crappy the pictures are - that?s why they?re here as img. text, no point in zooming. believe it ot not, there were some even shittier that never made it to the post preview stage. doubtful i know, but if something intrigues, maybe i can post again as a url, or even rephotograph.

shirley likes mushroom hunting  :kiss:

   


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Re: more challenges for i-d specialists [Re: shirley knott]
    #1999743 - 10/11/03 11:02 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

i definately see some armilaria[sp?]
what look to be possible pluteus aswell.

as for the others i have no idea.


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Re: more challenges for i-d specialists [Re: shirley knott]
    #1999757 - 10/11/03 11:18 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

theres a lactarius ther too, possoibly pubesens


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Re: more challenges for i-d specialists [Re: shirley knott]
    #2000165 - 10/11/03 02:45 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

The first 7 look like Armillarias.
The next looks like a Coprinus.
I can't tell what the next one looks like very well. Is it a Bird's Nest fungus?
The next 2 photos look like an Amanita.
The next 2 I would guess Clitocybe.
Then another Armillaria.
The last 2 look like possible Pluteus.

Of course, for good IDs we need more description.

For example, try breaking the stem of the possible Clitocybe. If it breaks like chalk (no fibers at all) then it's probably a Lactarius. If there's any fibers in the stalk, then it's probably a Clitocybe, but there are several genera of mushrooms that look pretty similar to the all nearly white Clitocybes. A spore print can help separate out some of the possibilities.

The possible Amanita should be IDed to genus by verifying the presence of a volva on the base of the stem and getting a spore print (which should be white).

The possible Pluteus should give itself away quickly with a pinkish spore print.

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Re: more challenges for i-d specialists [Re: ToxicMan]
    #2000272 - 10/11/03 03:52 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

TM, you rock! i was hoping you'd respond. they're all fairly nonspecific as you say - only the black thing with a white inside is a definitely-must-be something. it looks like a blackened bean pod, but white inside as you see. nothing in my (Phillips) guide that i've found helps.

as you can tell, i'm a complete starter at this hunting game - but each time i have one nailed down, it'll help me next time.


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Re: more challenges for i-d specialists [Re: shirley knott]
    #2000329 - 10/11/03 04:22 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

An important tip on identification: Most beginners make the mistake of trying to immediately guess species. There's a whole taxonomy tree structure for a reason - it helps get to the species (eventually).

Try to start by determining the family, then the genus, then the species. There are not very many families of gilled mushrooms. From there the numbers explode - hundreds of genera (depending on author), and many tens of thousands of species. Keep in mind that most of those genera are "satellite genera" from a relatively few main ones.

Lepiota, for example is a "main genus". Some satellite genera from it are Chlorophyllum, Macrolepiota, Leucoagaricus, and Leucocoprinus. Tricholoma has more satellite genera than you can shake a stick at.


Also, try to learn just 1 or 2 new species *every* time you go out. It doesn't take long before you can ID most of what you find, at least to genus.

Try to make a habit of making spore prints. You'll be surprised at what you find when you do that. Remember that, for identification, spore print color (as listed in books) can only be accurately be determined from a spore print on white paper.

Note, BTW, that every ID I listed above was only to genus. Don't get into too much of a rush to try to get everything to species.


Happy mushrooming!


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