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SpecialEd
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Re: The detectives are getting really persistant! [Re: Enlil]
#19719685 - 03/19/14 04:42 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Enlil said: The proper thing to do is to appear on the date commanded by the subpoena and inform the prosecutor that you intend to invoke your 5th amendment right not to testify unless you are granted blanket immunity in writing.
Are you being called to testify at a trial or a grand jury?
that's what they did at my dope dealing case, where I was subpoena'd to testify against my codefendant. But I don't understand how blanket immunity would have really helped me because we were being charged as codefendants. So anything I would have said would have technically been able to have been used against me. So I don't trust the blanket immunity.
and it looks like it's at a trial, I don't think he needed to be indicted by a grand jury.
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Re: The detectives are getting really persistant! [Re: SpecialEd]
#19719709 - 03/19/14 04:47 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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If you got blanket immunity, you couldn't even face charges. If you got use immunity, you could face charges, but they couldn't use your testimony against you.
Either way, if the give you immunity, you have no choice but to testify or be held in contempt of court.
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SpecialEd
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Re: The detectives are getting really persistant! [Re: Enlil]
#19719729 - 03/19/14 04:50 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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what if I say that I was abusing phenezapam and was in a benzo blackout for the time period in which this took place, so I therefore don't remember anything, and would that mean anything I say would be inadmissible?
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Re: The detectives are getting really persistant! [Re: SpecialEd]
#19719741 - 03/19/14 04:53 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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SpecialEd said: what if I say that I was abusing phenezapam and was in a benzo blackout for the time period in which this took place, so I therefore don't remember anything, and would that mean anything I say would be inadmissible?
yeah dude, totally! I would definitely recommend you do that.
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Re: The detectives are getting really persistant! [Re: SpecialEd]
#19719817 - 03/19/14 05:02 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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SpecialEd said: what if I say that I was abusing phenezapam and was in a benzo blackout for the time period in which this took place, so I therefore don't remember anything, and would that mean anything I say would be inadmissible?
You can say that, but it won't likely get you out of testifying, and anything you testify to could still be admissible.
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Re: The detectives are getting really persistant! [Re: Enlil]
#19719922 - 03/19/14 05:20 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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my testimony would turn into a mental sparring match though between me and the prosecutor, and I think I would be able to dodge all the tricks and traps and just say I don't remember on all of the pertinent questions.
idk though if my friend has rolled on me, I'll figure out how to deal with that if I am to get formally charged, but that should be enough for his trial.
this shit can get tricky though, because there's all sorts of questions they can possibly ask me that I would know the answer to despite a black out, but would imply all sorts of things indicating me and my friends involvement, plus even if I could collaborate with my incarcerated friend, I doubt he has hired a lawyer and his public pretender probably isn't doing the best job sharing all of his discovery papers and what not, so I don't really know what they know at this point,
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Re: The detectives are getting really persistant! [Re: SpecialEd]
#19723047 - 03/20/14 10:24 AM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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I dont want to get in trouble like you.
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Re: The detectives are getting really persistant! [Re: uglyman]
#19723134 - 03/20/14 10:41 AM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Plead the fifth, Dont talk without a lawyer. Its all you can do, second you start talking or trying to lie your way out its just digging your hole deeper.
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Re: The detectives are getting really persistant! [Re: uglyman]
#19723147 - 03/20/14 10:43 AM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Keep talking, these posts are going to be used against you as well.
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Re: The detectives are getting really persistant! [Re: LikwidDrawp]
#19724710 - 03/20/14 04:02 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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He wont be posting for a while.
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Re: The detectives are getting really persistant! [Re: Enlil]
#19724765 - 03/20/14 04:13 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Enlil said: The proper thing to do is to appear on the date commanded by the subpoena and inform the prosecutor that you intend to invoke your 5th amendment right not to testify unless you are granted blanket immunity in writing.
Are you being called to testify at a trial or a grand jury?
He's trolling. If you read his posts carefully, you can see right through this tall tale. I smell bullshit. Nice try on the RC mailman recovery.
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Re: The detectives are getting really persistant! [Re: Dr.Dankhead]
#19725005 - 03/20/14 05:13 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Special Ed trolling? I'm surprised it took this long for the
to find him... . . .
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Re: The detectives are getting really persistant! [Re: vinsue]
#19979369 - 05/12/14 11:47 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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vinsue said: He wont be posting for a while.
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update: Charges were dropped. I mean I made this all up. i'm sorry guys.
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Re: The detectives are getting really persistant! [Re: F Word On Dope]
#19979646 - 05/13/14 01:05 AM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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F Word On Dope said:
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vinsue said: He wont be posting for a while.
SpecialEd Banned: 03/19/14 10:05 PM Expires: 04/02/14 10:05 PM Reason: Inappropriate Post... . . .
update: Charges were dropped. I mean I made this all up. i'm sorry guys.
Nice try, you are still in the shroomery jail.
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Re: The detectives are getting really persistant! [Re: SpecialEd]
#19979658 - 05/13/14 01:12 AM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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SpecialEd said: alright fuck it, I just read on the internet that if it's been delivered, the court is going to assume I read it anyways, so here goes nothing.
Duh. It's not there problem if your so irresponsible to not open a court letter.
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Re: The detectives are getting really persistant! [Re: SpecialEd]
#19979664 - 05/13/14 01:15 AM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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SpecialEd said: that's what I wanna know. I don't think he did, in a weird way i'm almost hoping there's survelliance or something or a witness. Even then though, just because they have someone who looks like us on camera, doesn't mean shit, so long as my friend knows to keep his mouth shut. Part of me wants to run, but part of me needs to know what they know.
If a car is stolen and you were also in it even if you are not driving you absolutely will be charged with grand theft. I wouldn't say a god damn thing.
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Re: The detectives are getting really persistant! [Re: Enjoywho]
#19979696 - 05/13/14 01:35 AM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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Enjoywho said:
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SpecialEd said: that's what I wanna know. I don't think he did, in a weird way i'm almost hoping there's survelliance or something or a witness. Even then though, just because they have someone who looks like us on camera, doesn't mean shit, so long as my friend knows to keep his mouth shut. Part of me wants to run, but part of me needs to know what they know.
If a car is stolen and you were also in it even if you are not driving you absolutely will be charged with grand theft. I wouldn't say a god damn thing.
He already said that he made the whole thing up.
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Re: The detectives are getting really persistant! [Re: Enjoywho]
#19979701 - 05/13/14 01:39 AM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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Enjoywho: he admitted to being a troll and making the whole thing up.
But I was wondering what someone suggested about invoking the 5th amendment and refusing to testify without first being granted immunity. If you have information pertinent to a case and they ask you about it, legally don't you have to spill the beans? You know, obstruction of justice or whatever. Or is that just bullshit scare tactics.
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Re: The detectives are getting really persistant! [Re: Dreaming Nomad]
#19979706 - 05/13/14 01:44 AM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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Nvm just googled it
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Re: The detectives are getting really persistant! [Re: Dreaming Nomad]
#19979711 - 05/13/14 01:47 AM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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Dreaming Nomad said: Enjoywho: he admitted to being a troll and making the whole thing up.
But I was wondering what someone suggested about invoking the 5th amendment and refusing to testify without first being granted immunity. If you have information pertinent to a case and they ask you about it, legally don't you have to spill the beans? You know, obstruction of justice or whatever. Or is that just bullshit scare tactics.
What a waste of time then 
Anyway you have to testify or its contempt. That being said you can withhold anything incriminating yourself they can't read your mind.
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