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Fucking Magnets. Was ICP right to ask how they work?
    #19976383 - 05/12/14 01:39 PM (9 years, 9 months ago)




You can skip to 4 minutes of the video. Like many scientists he condescends the question for a few minutes before admitting there's no answer.

Also he is referring to the questioner asking "why", which is what caused him to explain how "why" isn't really an answerable question in physics.
since icp asked "how" I guess he would be ok with it.

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Re: Fucking Magnets. Was ICP right to ask how they work? [Re: Apostle]
    #19976412 - 05/12/14 01:48 PM (9 years, 9 months ago)

I'm not going to watch the video because it sounds stupid.

Yes I know how magnets work. There are many things about the universe we don't understand but magnetism is one of those things that we know a fair bit about. If you're having difficultly understanding magnets let me know and I'll try to clear things up for you.


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Re: Fucking Magnets. Was ICP right to ask how they work? [Re: Dawks]
    #19976428 - 05/12/14 01:53 PM (9 years, 9 months ago)

You need to contact ICP and explain to them because clearly they are confused about the complexities of magnatism.


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I want to become a sun worshipper, so next time an atheist smugly asks me where god is, I can point smugly at the sun and laugh my ass off.

Then I drive away in my solar powered piece of shit car, cool stuff man.

And then I go kill a bitch because the flaming orb in the sky told me to do so, and I don't know, oppress a few minorities here and there in the name of nuclear fusion?

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Re: Fucking Magnets. Was ICP right to ask how they work? [Re: fee] * 1
    #19976434 - 05/12/14 01:55 PM (9 years, 9 months ago)

Why don't you call them and explain to them how to steal cacti?


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Re: Fucking Magnets. Was ICP right to ask how they work? [Re: Dawks]
    #19976468 - 05/12/14 02:05 PM (9 years, 9 months ago)

What is the source of the magnetism?


Assuming you are going to point to the behavior of the electrons within magnetic material
what causes the electrons to behave the way they do?


Also explain gravity too please. whats the source of that energy?


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Re: Fucking Magnets. Was ICP right to ask how they work? [Re: Dawks]
    #19976530 - 05/12/14 02:16 PM (9 years, 9 months ago)

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Why don't you call them and explain to them how to steal cacti?




If I had some experience in that subject I would if they inquired.


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btw you're a total fucking psychedelic pimp
Turtletotem said:
I want to become a sun worshipper, so next time an atheist smugly asks me where god is, I can point smugly at the sun and laugh my ass off.

Then I drive away in my solar powered piece of shit car, cool stuff man.

And then I go kill a bitch because the flaming orb in the sky told me to do so, and I don't know, oppress a few minorities here and there in the name of nuclear fusion?

Religion is fun.


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Re: Fucking Magnets. Was ICP right to ask how they work? [Re: fee]
    #19976538 - 05/12/14 02:18 PM (9 years, 9 months ago)

I topped off a cacti once cause I thought it was active. I didn't take more than I needed though and it grew two tops in its place so I didn't feel bad at all.

I also drank non-active catci juice :cookiemonster:


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Re: Fucking Magnets. Was ICP right to ask how they work? [Re: Apostle]
    #19976577 - 05/12/14 02:31 PM (9 years, 9 months ago)

This is my favorite ICP song, dedicated to all the haters.




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Re: Fucking Magnets. Was ICP right to ask how they work? [Re: Apostle]
    #19976592 - 05/12/14 02:33 PM (9 years, 9 months ago)

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What is the source of the magnetism?





ok.

An electron is one of the fundamental sub-atomic particle in the universe. You probably  remember learning in chemistry that about atoms. An electron is on of those negatively charged things in shells around then nucleus.

Electrons have a number of properties one of these properties is called spin.
This spin property gives the electron something called a magnetic field. Think of an electron as a tiny magnet with a north and a south pole.

Most atoms have paired electron orbits. This means that each electron has an counterpart with an opposite spin. Because of this they cancel out eachothers magnetic field and therefore the atom itself has no magnetic field.


Some atoms have a unpaired electrons therefore the atom will take on the properties of this unpaired electron and the atom itself will have a magnetic field.

If you take a number of atoms with unpaired electrons that all have the same spin and put them all together you'll have what you know as a magnet with a north and a south pole.

This is how magnets work.


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Assuming you are going to point to the behavior of the electrons within magnetic material
what causes the electrons to behave the way they do?





You can create a magnetic field by running an electric current through a conductor. The electric current causes the electrons within the material to temporarily align and become "magnetic". The magnetic field will disappear when you stop current.

There are also naturally occurring materials such as "rare earth magnets" which are rare (I'm sure you got this from the name) materials where the spin of the electrons is naturally aligned and thus the material itself is magnetic.


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Re: Fucking Magnets. Was ICP right to ask how they work? [Re: Biodiversity]
    #19976593 - 05/12/14 02:33 PM (9 years, 9 months ago)

Dudes got no flow.

Kotton Mouth kings was the best thing to come out of that record label, if they're even signed with them.




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Re: Fucking Magnets. Was ICP right to ask how they work? [Re: Dawks]
    #19976602 - 05/12/14 02:35 PM (9 years, 9 months ago)

what causes the spin property of electrons?


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Re: Fucking Magnets. Was ICP right to ask how they work? [Re: Apostle]
    #19976612 - 05/12/14 02:38 PM (9 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks for taking the time to explain too.


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Re: Fucking Magnets. Was ICP right to ask how they work? [Re: Apostle]
    #19976619 - 05/12/14 02:40 PM (9 years, 9 months ago)

Just my guess -


eddy currents ?


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Re: Fucking Magnets. Was ICP right to ask how they work? [Re: Apostle]
    #19976640 - 05/12/14 02:44 PM (9 years, 9 months ago)

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what causes the spin property of electrons?




spin is an intrinsic property of electrons and other leptons. Leptons in general are considered to be "elementary particles" In other words they aren't made of anything, they are the most basic building blocks of the universe.

Quantum mechanics doesn't answer why these particles exist, only how they behave. It's theorized that they came into being sometime around the Planck epoch. Before this time the universe's would've been too condense for particles like elecrons to exist.

In quantum mechanics there is a thing called Quantum superposition. It basically describes how something like an electron exists in all it's possible states (including spin) simultaneously but when measured/observed takes on certain properties.

In other words it's YOUR AWARENESS that gives an electron its spin. Pretty neat, huh?


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Re: Fucking Magnets. Was ICP right to ask how they work? [Re: Dawks]
    #19976668 - 05/12/14 02:48 PM (9 years, 9 months ago)

SO in other words magnets work because God.


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Re: Fucking Magnets. Was ICP right to ask how they work? [Re: Apostle]
    #19976675 - 05/12/14 02:50 PM (9 years, 9 months ago)

j/k  thanks again dude. I guess all questions of why or how hit a dead end eventually.


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Re: Fucking Magnets. Was ICP right to ask how they work? [Re: Dawks]
    #19977138 - 05/12/14 04:04 PM (9 years, 9 months ago)

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In quantum mechanics there is a thing called Quantum superposition. It basically describes how something like an electron exists in all it's possible states (including spin) simultaneously but when measured/observed takes on certain properties.

In other words it's YOUR AWARENESS that gives an electron its spin. Pretty neat, huh?




That's a popular misconception, it's got nothing to do with your consciousness. Observer doesn't necessarily mean a conscious being. An observer could be the inanimate machine or device that's measuring something


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Re: Fucking Magnets. Was ICP right to ask how they work? [Re: Spiderbaby]
    #19977170 - 05/12/14 04:08 PM (9 years, 9 months ago)

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Quote:

Dawks said:
In quantum mechanics there is a thing called Quantum superposition. It basically describes how something like an electron exists in all it's possible states (including spin) simultaneously but when measured/observed takes on certain properties.

In other words it's YOUR AWARENESS that gives an electron its spin. Pretty neat, huh?




That's a popular misconception, it's got nothing to do with your consciousness. Observer doesn't necessarily mean a conscious being. An observer could be the inanimate machine or device that's measuring something




Actually it has a great deal to do with your consciousness. Your brain is an electrochemical computer and relies on quantum mechanics to produce your consciousness. You are quantum mechanics.

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Re: Fucking Magnets. Was ICP right to ask how they work? [Re: Dawks]
    #19977311 - 05/12/14 04:45 PM (9 years, 9 months ago)

>There are also naturally occurring materials such as "rare earth magnets" which are rare (I'm sure you got this from the name) materials where the spin of the electrons is naturally aligned and thus the material itself is magnetic.

Actually, rare earth magnets are made artificially out of rare earth minerals and sometimes ceramics. Natural magnets are known as lodestones.

An interesting fact is that magnetic fields travel at the speed of light and are manifested as light, infrared, x rays, gamma rays and also radio waves, among other things depending on frequency.


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