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Offlinezappaisgod
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Re: Is Obama to blame ? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #19964554 - 05/09/14 04:57 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)

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Maybe this helps show how the deficit is going down?


factcheck.org



:lolsy:  And the debt keeps going up


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Re: Is Obama to blame ? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19964632 - 05/09/14 05:25 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)

Getting rid of our obscenely excessive military and military-industrial complex that would be a good start.  Biggest bit of pork in the entire thing.


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Offlinezappaisgod
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Re: Is Obama to blame ? [Re: sonamdrukpa]
    #19964642 - 05/09/14 05:29 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)

False.  But they are shrinking it quite a bit.  Welfare for bums?  Not so much.


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Re: Is Obama to blame ? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19964680 - 05/09/14 05:39 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)

Welfare is 10% of the budget, defense is 22%.


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Offlinezappaisgod
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Re: Is Obama to blame ? [Re: sonamdrukpa]
    #19964811 - 05/09/14 06:06 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)

What do you think medicaid is?


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Offlinesolomilitia
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Re: Is Obama to blame ? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19964860 - 05/09/14 06:17 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)

Far too long america has been exporting jobs and importing goods and people
This can not last
Sure obama created some jobs mostly government and serves based taskes with no real
Probuction
Try working on the trade defficets america has if you fix that the rest of our troubles will get worked out


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Re: Is Obama to blame ? [Re: solomilitia]
    #19964908 - 05/09/14 06:27 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah maybe Obama can force corporations to not do what they want and force them back into the U.S.!


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Re: Is Obama to blame ? [Re: Citizen X]
    #19964917 - 05/09/14 06:29 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)

Obummer does counter productive crap like raising the min which simply causes more offshoring. He doesn't care, appearances are all he cares about, he knows it costs us jobs. He figures thats your problem. The sheep think he is on their side, some people never learn.


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OfflineThe Ecstatic
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Re: Is Obama to blame ? [Re: Citizen X] * 2
    #19964922 - 05/09/14 06:30 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)

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Citizen X said:
Yeah maybe Obama can force corporations to not do what they want and force them back into the U.S.!




Yeah let's socialize industry and bring jobs back!


Wait no, I must continue to cheerleader free market capitalism no matter how many times it fucks me over.


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Offlineqman
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Re: Is Obama to blame ? [Re: Citizen X]
    #19964933 - 05/09/14 06:33 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)

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Citizen X said:
Yeah maybe Obama can force corporations to not do what they want and force them back into the U.S.!




You mean the same corporations that put him into power, bought and paid for puppet.


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Re: Is Obama to blame ? [Re: qman] * 2
    #19964950 - 05/09/14 06:36 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)

Those corporations are capitalizing on their ability to control politics.

Taking money out of politics would be unnecessary regulation and an assault on free speech.


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Re: Is Obama to blame ? [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #19965051 - 05/09/14 07:06 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)

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The Ecstatic said:
Those corporations are capitalizing on their ability to control politics.

Taking money out of politics would be unnecessary regulation and an assault on free speech.




Then why even bother with a democratic system?  If the process is just about "capitalizing (with money) on their ability to control politics."

I thought the voters sent representatives to Washington to REPRESENT their interests, not just corporate powers.


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Re: Is Obama to blame ? [Re: Citizen X]
    #19965064 - 05/09/14 07:12 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)

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Citizen X said:
Yeah maybe Obama can force corporations to not do what they want and force them back into the U.S.!



Why not he is forcing the people to buy ins with no jobs how do we pay for it ?


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Re: Is Obama to blame ? [Re: qman]
    #19965076 - 05/09/14 07:15 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)

>I thought the voters sent representatives to Washington to REPRESENT their interests, not just corporate powers.

Thats what its supposed to be but legal bribery has created the monster we now see. Funny how neither the dems or gop say word one about cleaning up the system and taking the money out of it. Thats because they are corrupt fucks. The media never mentions it either for the same reason. Thank goodness for the internet and the fact obummer hasn't figured out how to censor it yet.

Looks like zap passed out for today, no more entertainment until tomorrow.


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Re: Is Obama to blame ? [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #19965079 - 05/09/14 07:15 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

The Ecstatic said:
Quote:

Citizen X said:
Yeah maybe Obama can force corporations to not do what they want and force them back into the U.S.!




Yeah let's socialize industry and bring jobs back!


Wait no, I must continue to cheerleader free market capitalism no matter how many times it fucks me over.



Quote:

The Ecstatic said:
Quote:

Citizen X said:
Yeah maybe Obama can force corporations to not do what they want and force them back into the U.S.!




Yeah let's socialize industry and bring jobs back!


Wait no, I must continue to cheerleader free market capitalism no matter how many times it fucks me over.



Quote:

The Ecstatic said:
Quote:

Citizen X said:
Yeah maybe Obama can force corporations to not do what they want and force them back into the U.S.!




Yeah let's socialize industry and bring jobs back!


Wait no, I must continue to cheerleader free market capitalism no matter how many times it fucks me over.



America does not have a free market !


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Re: Is Obama to blame ? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19965168 - 05/09/14 07:43 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
What do you think medicaid is?




I'll cotton on to that as long as you include Medicare in the welfare numbers.


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Re: Is Obama to blame ? [Re: sonamdrukpa]
    #19965187 - 05/09/14 07:52 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)

>I'll cotton on to that as long as you include Medicare in the welfare numbers.

I've got news for you, people paid for medicare out of their wages their whole life. Its no more welfare than social security which the weasel govt is slowly chipping away at. When you pay for insurance and they have to pay off a big claim, is that welfare? Not sure how your mind works.


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Re: Is Obama to blame ? [Re: Stonehenge]
    #19965326 - 05/09/14 08:39 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)

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Stonehenge said:
>I'll cotton on to that as long as you include Medicare in the welfare numbers.

I've got news for you, people paid for medicare out of their wages their whole life. Its no more welfare than social security which the weasel govt is slowly chipping away at. When you pay for insurance and they have to pay off a big claim, is that welfare? Not sure how your mind works.




The medicare tax doesn't cover the cost of medicare.  Money is fungible.  I've paid my taxes my entire adult life.  If I have to go on food stamps, rent assistance, etc., are you and zap gonna bitch about it?  After all, I've paid into the system that funds those things too.


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Re: Is Obama to blame ? [Re: sonamdrukpa] * 1
    #19965502 - 05/09/14 09:40 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)

Normal people (non-Republicans) know that despite the right wing propaganda labeling the President with the charge of “socialist,” Barack Obama is far from even being a liberal.


John Boehner and Republicans like to tell us “let’s be honest, we’re broke” when they’re cutting health care, education, infrastructure, workers working, research and development, cancer clinics, public parks, veterans  benefits or investing in the dignity of our seniors not to eat cat food –  but if we were TRULY broke, the US taxpayers wouldn’t be paying over 2 trillion dollars of their tax money for nothing more the Pentagon to occupy the planet.


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Re: Is Obama to blame ? [Re: JayZ Morgan]
    #19965549 - 05/09/14 09:55 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)

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JayZ Morgan said:
Normal people (non-Republicans) know that despite the right wing propaganda labeling the President with the charge of “socialist,” Barack Obama is far from even being a liberal.


John Boehner and Republicans like to tell us “let’s be honest, we’re broke” when they’re cutting health care, education, infrastructure, workers working, research and development, cancer clinics, public parks, veterans  benefits or investing in the dignity of our seniors not to eat cat food –  but if we were TRULY broke, the US taxpayers wouldn’t be paying over 2 trillion dollars of their tax money for nothing more the Pentagon to occupy the planet.



18,000,000,000,000 in the hole is broke


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