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The liberal media.
    #1990987 - 10/08/03 06:30 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Hey, I didn't say it. (this time) I do think it's accurate though.

POLL ANALYSES
October 8, 2003


Are the News Media Too Liberal?
Forty-five percent of Americans say yes


by Frank Newport and Joseph Carroll
GALLUP NEWS SERVICE

PRINCETON, NJ -- Forty-five percent of Americans believe the news media in this country are too liberal, while only 14% say the news media are too conservative. These perceptions of liberal inclination have not changed over the last three years. A majority of Americans who describe their political views as conservative perceive liberal leanings in the media, while only about a third of self-described liberals perceive conservative leanings.

More generally, the Sept. 8-10 Gallup Poll finds that a little more than half of Americans have a great deal or fair amount of trust in the news media when it comes to reporting the news fully, accurately, and fairly. Trust in the news media has not changed significantly over the last six years. Conservatives have a slightly lower level of trust in the media than either moderates or liberals do.

News Media Too Liberal?

Gallup has asked Americans four times in recent years if they perceive the news media as too liberal, too conservative, or about right, with the following results:

In general, do you think the news media is -- too liberal, just about right, or too conservative?




Americans have been considerably more likely to perceive the news media as too liberal than as too conservative the last four times this question has been posed. One's interpretation of these findings is, to a degree, dependent on one's perspective. It's true that substantially more Americans say that the news media are too liberal than say they are too conservative. At the same time, a majority says that the news media are either too conservative, or just about right.

It's perhaps surprising that there has been such little variation in this sentiment over the last three years -- given the continuing focus on alleged media bias over this time period, including best-selling books such as Bias by Bernard Goldberg and Slander by Ann Coulter, which have alleged systematic liberal bias in the news media. The ratings success of the Fox News channel has been based in part on its attempt to appeal to conservative viewers who feel that the more traditional news media are liberal and biased.

It is clear that the underlying dynamic behind the finding that the news media are too liberal is the widespread belief among conservatives that the news media are too liberal, contrasted with the far less prevalent view among liberals that the news media are too conservative. Additionally, liberals are twice as likely to say that the media are too liberal (18%) as conservatives are to say they are too conservative (9%). Moderates are more "moderate" in their views, but still roughly as many say the news media are too liberal as say they are about right, and relatively few moderates say the news media are too conservative.

Plus, about 4 in 10 Americans today identify themselves as conservatives and about the same number identify as moderates, while less than 20% identify as liberals. Given all of this, the overall conclusion is that Americans, on average, are more likely to see the news media as too liberal than too conservative:

Ideology and the News Media







Too
liberal
About
right
Too
conservative


%
%
%

Conservatives




2003 Sep 8-10
60
29
9

2002 Sep 5-8
63
27
9

2001 Sep 7-10
62
29
7






Moderates




2003 Sep 8-10
40
44
15

2002 Sep 5-8
45
40
13

2001 Sep 7-10
44
46
8






Liberals




2003 Sep 8-10
18
50
30

2002 Sep 5-8
21
52
22

2001 Sep 7-10
19
49
25


Trust in the Media

More generally, a majority of Americans have a great deal or fair amount of trust in the news media when it comes to reporting the news fully, accurately, and fairly. By way of comparison, that's a considerably lower level of trust than is placed in the each of the three main branches of the U.S. government.

Public Confidence in Branches of Government
And in News Media

September 8-10, 2003



One interesting finding from the poll is the general lack of change in this trust measure over the last six years. Gallup first asked Americans about their trust and confidence in the media back in the 1970s, but stopped at that point and didn't begin to use the question again until 1997.

There was a clear change in views of the media between these two periods of time. About 7 in 10 Americans said they had a great deal or fair amount of trust and confidence in the media in 1972, 1974, and 1976, perhaps reflecting public approval of the news media's role in uncovering the Watergate abuses of power. When Gallup picked up the question series again six years ago, however, the trust levels had fallen to the mid-50% range.

In general, how much trust and confidence do you have in the mass media -- such as newspapers, T.V. and radio -- when it comes to reporting the news fully, accurately, and fairly -- a great deal, a fair amount, not very much, or none at all?




The constancy in ratings of trust and confidence in the news media has occurred in an environment that has included not only ideological criticism of the media's news coverage, but also high visibility media missteps, including in particular the allegations of journalistic malfeasance against former New York Times reporter Jayson Blair (which ended in a major investigation by that paper and his ultimate resignation).

Perhaps not surprisingly, given the findings above highlighting conservatives' perception that the media is too liberal, there is a tendency for those Americans who identify themselves as conservatives to have a lower level of trust and confidence in the media than those who identify themselves as moderates or liberals do. But the differences among these three groups in that regard are not highly significant. In the most recent Sept. 8-10 survey, 50% of conservatives say they have a great deal or fair amount of trust in the news media, compared to 56% of liberals and 58% of moderates.

Trust in the Mass Media by Ideology

(based on percent saying great deal or fair amount of trust)


National
Adults
Conservatives
Moderates
Liberals


%
%
%
%

2003 Sep 8-10
54
50
58
56

2002 Sep 5-8
54
49
54
62

2001 Sep 7-10
53
47
54
61

2000 Jul 6-9
51
49
50
55

1999 Feb 4-8
55
50
58
60

1998 Dec 28-29
55
50
59
55

1997 May 30-Jun 1
53
51
53
60


Survey Methods

These results are based on telephone interviews with a randomly selected national sample of 1,025 adults, aged 18 and older, conducted Sept. 8-10, 2003. For results based on this sample, one can say with 95% confidence that the maximum error attributable to sampling and other random effects is ?3 percentage points. In addition to sampling error, question wording and practical difficulties in conducting surveys can introduce error or bias into the findings of public opinion polls.



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Re: The liberal media. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1990992 - 10/08/03 06:33 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Are these the same people who watch Fox "News"? :rolleyes:


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: silversoul7]
    #1991015 - 10/08/03 06:40 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

There's only 1025 of them, call and ask.

Like it or not it's how people see it. Those not wearing blinders anyway.


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: silversoul7]
    #1991017 - 10/08/03 06:42 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

I'm a liberal and I watch Fox News. I'm not sure it is news but it is entertainment.



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Re: The liberal media. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1991040 - 10/08/03 06:47 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

The reason I think most conservatives think the media is liberal is that to them, anything which doesn't concur with their point of view is, by definition, liberal, since so many of them see the world in black-and-white. The idea of there being such a thing as "moderate" doesn't seem to occur to them. And of course, after seeing so many conservatives in the media(esp. Fox "News") complaining about how the media is too liberal, the average, non-thinking American starts agreeing.


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: silversoul7]
    #1991053 - 10/08/03 06:52 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

The reason I think most liberals think the media is conservative is that to them, anything which doesn't concur with their point of view is, by definition, conservative, since so many of them see the world in black-and-white. The idea of there being such a thing as "moderate" doesn't seem to occur to them. And of course, after seeing so many liberals in the media(esp. ABC, CBS, NBC, NPR, NPTV, CNN, BBC, etc.) complaining about how the media is too conservative, the average, non-thinking American starts agreeing.


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1991068 - 10/08/03 07:01 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Actually, most mainstream liberals aren't saying the media is conservative.


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1991087 - 10/08/03 07:08 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

anyone who is skeptical of the liberal bias in the media needs to read Time, or Newsweek, or the New York Times, or the LA Times, or the Washington Post.

fox news is certainly conservatively biased, but i think they do that on purpose...

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Re: The liberal media. [Re: silversoul7]
    #1991165 - 10/08/03 07:32 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

silversoul7 said:
Actually, most mainstream liberals aren't saying the media is conservative. 





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Re: The liberal media. [Re: ]
    #1991195 - 10/08/03 07:42 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

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mushmaster said:
anyone who is skeptical of the liberal bias in the media needs to read Time, or Newsweek, or the New York Times, or the LA Times, or the Washington Post.



My family subscribes to both Time and Newsweek, so forgive me if I'm still skeptical.

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fox news is certainly conservatively biased, but i think they do that on purpose...



But they don't have to lie about it and call themselves "Fair and Balanced."


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1991200 - 10/08/03 07:44 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

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luvdemshrooms said:
Quote:

silversoul7 said:
Actually, most mainstream liberals aren't saying the media is conservative. 





:lol: 



Never have I seen anyone on CNN, ABC, CBS, MSNBC or any other news networks say the media is too conservative.  Have you?


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: silversoul7]
    #1991255 - 10/08/03 08:08 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

That's not what you asked.Did you mean to ask if the mainstream MEDIA was saying that?


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1991259 - 10/08/03 08:09 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

That's not what you asked.Did you mean to ask if the mainstream MEDIA was saying that?



Funny, I thought to you they were the same thing... :smirk:


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: silversoul7]
    #1991264 - 10/08/03 08:11 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Conservatives have complained about the "Liberal Media" ever since the media killed McCarthyism.


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: Rose]
    #1991274 - 10/08/03 08:14 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Oh and the media helped Kennedy defeat Nixon.

Damn liberals.

No wonder the conservatives think the media's biased.


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: Rose]
    #1991347 - 10/08/03 08:40 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

I like the way Al Franken framed it in his book:

Politics--no liberal bias
Social issues--trivial liberal bias(no mainstream journalist has ever bombed an abortion clinic)
Sports--massive, but inconsequential, conservative bias
The Funnies--funny bias, or in the case of Family Circus, funny and heartwarming bias


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: silversoul7]
    #1991403 - 10/08/03 09:00 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Bravo to AL Franken! Nexislexis seaches seemed to show a preponderance of conservative coverage overall but my opinion is the press is what ever is juiciest at the time.Media is the Ho Show and bucks drive story coverage
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Re: The liberal media. [Re: whiterasta]
    #1991468 - 10/08/03 09:28 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

I think the media is biases towards whatever will sell the most pringles.


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: whiterasta]
    #1991485 - 10/08/03 09:37 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

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my opinion is the press is what ever is juiciest at the time.



I agree, and so does Al Franken. He lists a number of biases which he notices in the media:

1. Sensationalism
2. The Easy-and-Cheap-to-Cover bias(which is why political coverage is about the political process rather than the issues)
3. The Get-It-First bias
4. Pack Mentality
5. Negativity
6. Soft News
7. The Don't-Offend-the-Conglomerate-That-Owns-Us bias


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: silversoul7]
    #1991629 - 10/08/03 10:29 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Yes. That is it.

Americans have to listen to a COMMERCIAL media.


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1991655 - 10/08/03 10:39 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

What liberal media?


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: Zahid]
    #1991782 - 10/08/03 11:40 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

No idea Zahid! Could someone name me a mainstream US media source that took a stance against the illegal war of aggression against Iraq and kept it up throughout the war for example?



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Re: The liberal media. [Re: Xlea321]
    #1992089 - 10/09/03 01:27 AM (20 years, 5 months ago)

You think that's liberal? That's nothing! I won't believe it untill someone names a mainstream US media source that broadcasts marxist propaganda 24 hours.


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1992105 - 10/09/03 01:36 AM (20 years, 5 months ago)

The existence of objective media is a myth.


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: Xochitl]
    #1992170 - 10/09/03 01:59 AM (20 years, 5 months ago)

There are objective people in the media.


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: Rose]
    #1992189 - 10/09/03 02:06 AM (20 years, 5 months ago)

No one's objective, tho despite what so many conservatives believe, most of the mainstream media at least TRY to be objective(except when it violates the commercial biases I mentioned).


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: silversoul7]
    #1992244 - 10/09/03 02:41 AM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Well, if you want to be all Zen about it, nobody's objective.

The media (Left or Right) is more objective than most polititians.


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: Rose]
    #1992662 - 10/09/03 08:05 AM (20 years, 5 months ago)

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No idea Zahid! Could someone name me a mainstream US media source that took a stance against the illegal war of aggression against Iraq and kept it up throughout the war for example?




It would be interesting to hear your views on the intervention in Kosovo and Bosnia. You chuck the word illegal around a lot and it would be interesting to know what criteria have to be met before a war can be deemed legal.
As for the media, over here anyway, they seem to be relatively neutral for the most part in comparison to US news anyway. The BBC and ITN usually give a fair few of the situation without leaning too far to either side, its just certain reports by certain "journalists" go way too far and help propagate some of the bizzare standards and beliefs held by certain people......




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Re: The liberal media. [Re: st0nedphucker]
    #1992846 - 10/09/03 09:39 AM (20 years, 5 months ago)

What other word can you chuck around for it?


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    #1993390 - 10/09/03 01:08 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

I thought we'd already gotten over sour-grapes goldberg
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Re: The liberal media. [Re: afoaf]
    #1993417 - 10/09/03 01:12 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Apparently not. For whatever reason, Americans' opinions on the matter have remained essentially unchanged for three years now.


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: afoaf]
    #1993823 - 10/09/03 02:51 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

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I thought we'd already gotten over sour-grapes goldberg
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    #1994022 - 10/09/03 03:39 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

so you think there's a liberal bias in the media?

have you read Franken's latest book?


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: afoaf]
    #1994028 - 10/09/03 03:41 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Yes, I think there is a strong liberal bias in the media.

No, and I won't read it until I can do so for free as I try to not support assholes.


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    #1994068 - 10/09/03 03:51 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

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No, and I won't read it until I can do so for free as I try to not support assholes.



Then why'd you vote for Bush?


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    #1994098 - 10/09/03 04:02 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

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No, and I won't read it until I can do so for free as I try to not support assholes.



Then why'd you vote for Bush?



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Re: The liberal media. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1994116 - 10/09/03 04:09 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Well, even assuming you're right(which you're not), he's still an asshole, and you supported him.


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1994126 - 10/09/03 04:13 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Most voters disagreed with your assessment of GW, Luvdem.


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: silversoul7]
    #1994144 - 10/09/03 04:18 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

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Well, even assuming you're right(which you're not), he's still an asshole, and you supported him.



Ah, but I am. And please tell me you're not suggesting you would vote for the worst of two choices?


Now, I answered as a courtesy even though you apparently missed the point.

I said.....
"No, and I won't read it until I can do so for free as I try to not support assholes."

Here, I'll help out by high-lighting the important words you seem to have missed.....


"No, and I won't read it until I can do so for free as I try to not support assholes.

So, if Bush writes a book I'll use the same criteria in deciding whether or not to read it and pay for it.


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: Rose]
    #1994147 - 10/09/03 04:18 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

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Cervantes said:
Most voters disagreed with your assessment of GW, Luvdem.



People can do that in America.


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1994280 - 10/09/03 05:00 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

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"No, and I won't read it until I can do so for free as I try to not support assholes.

So, if Bush writes a book I'll use the same criteria in deciding whether or not to read it and pay for it.



So the only way to support an asshole is by buying his book? :smirk:


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: silversoul7]
    #1994305 - 10/09/03 05:10 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Why? Have you written one?
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Re: The liberal media. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1994333 - 10/09/03 05:17 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Yes, it's called "Lies, and the Lying Liars Who Lie About People Who Write Books About Lies and Lying Liars." :wink:


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    #1994365 - 10/09/03 05:23 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Yow!


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: silversoul7]
    #1994594 - 10/09/03 06:21 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: The liberal media. [Re: silversoul7]
    #1994862 - 10/09/03 07:44 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Makes me want to start supporting assholes.


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: silversoul7]
    #1994878 - 10/09/03 07:47 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

You forgot the subtitle,

"A Fairly Fair and Balanced Book About Balancing Fairly Fair, Fairly Balanced Fairness"


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: Rose]
    #1995078 - 10/09/03 08:31 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Its only fair.

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    #1995284 - 10/09/03 09:19 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

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    #1995729 - 10/09/03 11:44 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

So I presume no-one can provide me with an example of a US mainstream media source that condemed the war throughout the last 6 months and insisted Bush be tried for war crimes?

Bang goes the liberal media myth.



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    #1996088 - 10/10/03 02:37 AM (20 years, 5 months ago)

I think that would be fair to say.


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: Rose]
    #1996642 - 10/10/03 09:53 AM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Of course there are no concrete examples, Alex. All that ever gets tossed out here is a bunch of rhetorical "examples" on how the "mainstream" media leans to the left.

The poll listed initially is simply another example of the preponderance of a particular meme - in this case "The media has a liberal bias" (an untruth, at best), which has been repeated SO often by the likes of Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Ann Coulter, Bill O'Reilly, Larry Elder, et. al. that people have started to beleive that it's true, simply by cause of repitition. And as much as I hate them, between just those 4 people, they reach tens of millions of people a day who are now being lead to believe that they are being fed the whole truth and nothing but the truth by people who are simply defending our freedom from the evil, liberal media. That's a lot of meme repetition.

At the risk of pandering, I will point out that people once believed with all of their hearts that black people were not actually human, for no other reason than because they had been told this over and over and over. Yah - it's an extreme example, but you get the idea.

And please... if all you can point to for an example of just how liberal the mainstream media is 2 newspapers and 2 magazines... well then let me just say this to you: "The New Yorker". "The Weekly Standard". "The New York Post". "The Washington Times". See? The media is actually conservative as hell, if you take those 4 examples as a representative slice of the whole.


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1996724 - 10/10/03 10:27 AM (20 years, 5 months ago)

I guess where I was trying to go with that
lead-in before things spun so badly out of
control was that I read Goldberg's book
and was ABSOLUTELY sure he was right on
the money.

then I read Franken's book and was ABSOTIVELY
sure he was right on the money.

clearly both can't be right.

then I realized that there's a couple problems here:

1. it's all relative.
2. statistics and polls can be made to prove nearly any point.
3. coulter, limbaugh and hannity are buffoons.
4. regardless of left or right, NOBODY in the media is covering the real stories.

his book is funny, if nothing else.

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Re: The liberal media. [Re: afoaf]
    #1997226 - 10/10/03 01:02 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

According to the Pew Charitable Trusts Project for Excellence in Journalism, here's the tone of news coverage for Gore and Bush during the 2000 campaign:

Gore
Positive: 13%
Neutral: 31%
Negative: 56%

Bush
Positive: 24%
Neutral: 27%
Negative: 49%


Well, fancy that! The Democratic candidate got more negative coverage than the Republican candidate. So much for the "liberal media."


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    #1997713 - 10/10/03 02:56 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

He was the worse of the two, so your percentages are accurate.


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    #1997719 - 10/10/03 02:58 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

any conservative should know that the media is conservative. How come they dont curse on the news and show people having sex? Why is it that i cant find a single media source that fits my liberal beliefs.


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1997721 - 10/10/03 02:58 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Ha! I'd like to see him TRY to fuck up the country as much as Bush has.


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    #1997726 - 10/10/03 03:01 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

subjective, at best.


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: silversoul7]
    #1997753 - 10/10/03 03:06 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

We'll never know, but I suspect we'd be worse off on many fronts.

The fact is your example proves nothing.


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: afoaf]
    #1997759 - 10/10/03 03:07 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

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subjective, at best.



I thought that obvious enough to not warrant mentioning.


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    #1997761 - 10/10/03 03:08 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

I just found this recent study, it showed that the more you watch mainstream television, the more likely you'll have the facts wrong about the aftermath of Post-Saddam Iraq.

We Report, You get it Wrong.

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... and the more you watch the Rupert Murdoch-owned Fox News channel, in particular, the more likely it is that your perceptions about the war are wrong, adds the report by the University of Maryland's Program on International Policy Attitudes (PIPA).

Based on several nationwide surveys it conducted with California-based Knowledge Networks since June, as well as the results of other polls, PIPA found that 48 percent of the public believe US troops found evidence of close pre-war links between Iraq and the al-Qaeda terrorist group; 22 percent thought troops found weapons of mass destruction (WMD) in Iraq; and 25 percent believed that world public opinion favored Washington's going to war with Iraq. All three are misperceptions.

The report, Misperceptions, the Media and the Iraq War, also found that the more misperceptions held by the respondent, the more likely it was that s/he both supported the war and depended on commercial television for news about it.




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"People who have had a strong belief that there is an unholy alliance between politics and the press now have more evidence." Fox, in particular, has been accused of pursuing a chauvinistic agenda in its news coverage despite its motto, "We report, you decide".




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Re: The liberal media. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1997776 - 10/10/03 03:12 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Well, let's see...if the media was liberal, then they'd want to make the conservative candidate look bad and the liberal candidate look good, would they not?


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    #1997780 - 10/10/03 03:14 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

In a VERY simplistic world, yes.

Is that the type of world you live in?


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    #1997785 - 10/10/03 03:15 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

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In a VERY simplistic world, yes.

Is that the type of world you live in?



No, we live in a world where the media is NOT liberal, except maybe on certain social issues, such as racism, sexism, homophobia, etc.


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: silversoul7]
    #1997799 - 10/10/03 03:18 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

:lol: :lol: :lol:


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1997811 - 10/10/03 03:20 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1997826 - 10/10/03 03:23 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

:rolleyes:


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: silversoul7]
    #1997834 - 10/10/03 03:27 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

:kiss:


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: Rose]
    #1997846 - 10/10/03 03:30 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

The media is increasingly owned by muti-national mega corporations, which are anything but "liberal" (unless you use the old-school definition of liberal and mean favoring free-trade). Reporters may seem "liberal" but its inconsequential. Think not of what you do see, but of what you do not see. That should show you how liberal the news is. For more info go to: www.projectcensored.org

Is it possible that they (corporate owners) want you to think that there is a liberal bias? Could this debunk liberalism in general?

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Re: The liberal media. [Re: SquattingMarmot]
    #1997881 - 10/10/03 03:44 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Loaded questions, written to generate a specific outcome.

From Andrew Sullivan:
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EMAIL OF THE DAY: "I read with interest your post today, Fri 10th Oct, on the poll purporting to show that Fox News viewers are more likely to hold false beliefs. The poll and its associated reporting are evidence of leftist bias, but I disagree with you about how the poll is biased. Notice, all three questions have a false pro-war answer and a true anti-war answer, so that the results are obviously conflating being mis-informed with being pro-war. This is probably not even intentional on the poll authors' part.

Imagine an opposite kind of poll asking, for example:

Did President Bush claim before the war that the threat to the US from Iraq's WMD was imminent?
Do a majority of Iraqis support the US invasion?
Did the US sell significant amounts of arms to Saddam Hussein?
Was the toppling of the Saddam statue at the end of the war staged?
A poll asking these or similar questions would doubtless find that Fox News viewers have the most accurate grasp of reality and NPR listeners the least."

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Re: The liberal media. [Re: wingnutx]
    #1997993 - 10/10/03 04:22 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Out of interest how would a fox viewer answer these questions?


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    #1998020 - 10/10/03 04:27 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

I'm guessing no, yes, no, no.


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: Xlea321]
    #1998646 - 10/10/03 08:41 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Fox News never once said they wish Hitler had won the war.

Bang there goes that conservative bias theory.


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1999100 - 10/11/03 12:21 AM (20 years, 5 months ago)

He was the best of bad choices.

You've been offering this as a "reason" for voting Bush for a while now luv. Do you really think the figurehead at the top makes such a vast difference to the policies a democrat or republican government follows? Why not just admit you prefer right wing policies instead of this "best of bad choices" nonsense?


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: havatampa]
    #1999109 - 10/11/03 12:25 AM (20 years, 5 months ago)

The media is increasingly owned by muti-national mega corporations

True.

Makes it even stranger that they're all allegedly "liberal" and would support left-wing policies that would cut their profit levels - support unions, support workers rights etc.

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    #1999129 - 10/11/03 12:40 AM (20 years, 5 months ago)

The only liberal bias I can really find in the media is its political correctness, but this mainly has to do with not trying to offend their viewers.


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    #1999134 - 10/11/03 12:43 AM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah I guess they can be as liberal as they like in certain areas like race relations etc it's just the economic areas likely to improve the lives of workers and affect corporate profit levels where the "liberal bias" will end.


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: havatampa]
    #1999144 - 10/11/03 12:50 AM (20 years, 5 months ago)

The only liberalism in media is in the form of political correctness and entertainment.

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    #1999168 - 10/11/03 01:05 AM (20 years, 5 months ago)

I think that's where the misunderstanding comes from. People see a black on TV and think that means the communists have taken over.


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    #1999173 - 10/11/03 01:08 AM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Interesting. I would have said

Yes(although the word imminent may have not been used its only a matter of semantics)
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    #1999200 - 10/11/03 01:17 AM (20 years, 5 months ago)

:smile:

I dunno if that was really what I meant or what most americans would consider liberal.  I think this is focused more on news media.

Like, for instance.  Luvdem and I could watch the same CNN show, Washington Journal on any given morning... and Im going to have alot less to agree with then Luvdem will.  But he's gonna be pissed about the 2% that give an opposing viewpoint and when the pollsters call his house at dinnertime on a Friday night... maybe he is more likely to be home to tell them about it.  But Im just gonna get pissed off, turn off the television, bitch to my boyfriend that people are stupid and on friday, when they pollster calls..going to be out, because tv sure as hell isnt accurate or entertaining anymore and it's sole purpose is to manipulate the minds of it's viewers away from commonsense... so, Im going to miss the pollster.

But then again, I could see the american public shifting the blame from the news media and feigning shock about entertainment that showed a black man on television.  The horror.  But those people either live in the deep south or in the upperechelons of society :smile: 


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: Xlea321]
    #1999638 - 10/11/03 06:21 AM (20 years, 5 months ago)

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Why not just admit you prefer right wing policies instead of this "best of bad choices" nonsense?



Are you truly so numb or are you being "disingenuous" again?

I've stated several times That right wing policies are superior to the left.

And whether you like me saying Bush was the best of bad choices is immaterial to me. For you see, it's the truth. But as truth is a foreign concept to you, it's not surprising you fail to recognize it.


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    #1999920 - 10/11/03 10:59 AM (20 years, 5 months ago)

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    #2000083 - 10/11/03 12:05 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

the bias on the media is neither conservative nor liberal

it is a fascist bias

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    #2000288 - 10/11/03 01:58 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

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    #2000539 - 10/11/03 03:52 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

it's not what they cover or how they cover it,
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    #2001847 - 10/12/03 02:20 AM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Luvdem, I have a question for you. Do you think this is an example of liberal media?


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    #2001935 - 10/12/03 04:52 AM (20 years, 5 months ago)

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Luvdem, I have a question for you. Do you think this is an example of liberal media?



That site requires registration. I don't register on those sites.

If you'd like to cut and paste it I'd be glad to read it.

Not every article is biased.


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    #2002129 - 10/12/03 08:29 AM (20 years, 5 months ago)

The Media Get Recalled

by L. Brent Bozell III
October 10, 2003



Arnold won and Davis lost, as did Bustamante, as did Huffington. But no one was more rejected in this 61 percent Republican tidal wave in an overwhelming Democratic state than the liberal press. Consider the media recalled.


From the first signatures on recall petitions, the press was huffing and puffing with hysteria. Newsweek said the state ?was in thrall to an earnest crank...in the grip of what can only be described as a civic crackup.? The New York Times called it a ?throbbing political hangover.? Peter Jennings warned ?the recall is on the verge of unleashing a political tempest. Some in California would say political madness.?


When it was over, the press was still howling ?Foul!? Remember how, after the GOP landslide in 1994, Jennings compared the public to two-year-olds and complained ?the voters had a temper tantrum last week?? There must be something in the drinking water at ABC. On the morning of the Schwarzenegger victory, there was his colleague Linda Douglass claiming (with no evidence provided) that "Schwarzenegger acknowledged that the recall campaign was the result of a statewide temper tantrum."

Of course voters were upset, but national reporters didn?t dare to tread near what might be causing this troublesome discontent: skyrocketing spending, tripled car taxes, slipping bond ratings, overpaid public-employee unions. Once the movie star entered the race, all the spotlights ? and all the nit-picking scrutiny ? was directed at him.


It didn?t matter that the people felt very obviously that Gov. Gray Davis was an incompetent in need of sudden retirement. It didn?t matter that the Lieutenant Governor who aspired to replace him had ties to a bizarre group believing several southwestern states should be sawed off America and handed back to the Mexicans. It didn?t matter than Gov. Davis tried to save himself by signing a bill to award illegal aliens with state-sanctioned driver?s licenses, making it easier for homeland-security threats to move right into the mainstream of California ? and perhaps other states as well.


What mattered were mangled statements Arnold supposedly made in 1975 during the filming of his breakthrough documentary ?Pumping Iron.? What mattered were wild claims about group sex at the gym that Arnold made in the pornographic magazine Oui in 1977. What mattered was an anonymous female, ?a former pro beach volleyball player,? who claimed that Arnold touched her breast on a Santa Monica street in 1980. No longer were we being admonished by the press to ?move on.? Now they were instructing the voters to back up.


The media labored hard against the recall. First it was a ?circus,? a freak show for pornographers, porn actresses, disgruntled child stars, and thong-underwear-selling self-promoters. Then it was Arnold, obviously too stupid even to form complete sentences in a debate. Then it was so unfair that a dedicated long-time public servant should be overturned by an actor with zero administrative experience, as if Davis?s experience ruining the state wasn?t the issue.


When these lines didn?t work, it was the media ? not just Democratic partisans, but the media ? who reached into the ugly bag and started throwing the unsubstantiated rumors and groping stories. The Los Angeles Times, which dismissed last-minute entreaties in 1992 to bring Juanita Broaddrick?s rape story to public scrutiny as ?toxic waste,? spent weeks goading women into telling anonymous tales about a comparatively meaningless boob squeeze in the 1970s. Tom Brokaw, who couldn?t bear to touch Broaddrick?s rape story with a ten-foot pole, even as it aired on his own network, dared to lecture Arnold that his behavior ?could be criminal.? The media hypocrisy is so obvious as to be transparent.


Which brings us back to ABC reporter Linda Douglass, who mangled Arnold?s alleged 1975 praise of Adolf Hitler. In 1975 he told an interviewer that he admired Hitler?s ?way of getting to the people,? but then added, ?But I don?t admire him for what he did with it.? Douglass artfully changed the quote and reported that he had said, ?I admire him for being such a good public speaker and for what he did with it,? which gave license to Terry McAuliffe and Gray Davis to spend the final weekend pretending out loud that Arnold had swastikas tattooed to his biceps. When Arnold protested the story to Peter Jennings, the anchorman replied, ?But you had to know that this was all going to come out in a campaign. It is, after all, your past -- it isn't made up, is it?? In fact, ABC was making stuff up.


It?s obvious that Schwarzenegger, with his libertine movie-star misbehavior and social positions, not to mention his utter lack of political finesse in his pre-candidate days, was not the ideal conservative role model. But in the end, California voters just told the media to take their bias and shove it.

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    #2002148 - 10/12/03 08:46 AM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Christ - that link is from the Media Research Center! You start a thread talking about the liberal slant in media, and you use an editorial from one of the most notoriously conservative (rabidly so, at times) organizations' websites to help you prove your point?

That is what circular logic means, in case you were never quite clear.

I don't think anyone is arguing that there are not individual journalists who are decidedly liberal in their slant. But all in all, with the exception of a few publications, the mainstream media ranges from slightly right of center to waaaaaaaay right of center.

And the article you wouldn't read was from the Washington Post... one of the few newspapers with an overall left-leaning stance, and it was a fair account of Rice's job as NSC advisor and how some cabinet members are making her job more difficult than it should be, unfairly so. Seems pretty neutral to me. But you'll have that.


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    #2002260 - 10/12/03 10:42 AM (20 years, 5 months ago)

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Christ - that link is from the Media Research Center! You start a thread talking about the liberal slant in media, and you use an editorial from one of the most notoriously conservative (rabidly so, at times) organizations' websites to help you prove your point?



To PROVE my point? No. To illustrate AN example, yes.

The media was strangly silent about this type of thing when Clinton was involved, yet waited until only days before the election to do a story with witnesses who couldn't be named.


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That is what circular logic means, in case you were never quite clear.



I'm aware of what circular logic means which is why this wasn't claimed as PROOF. Perhaps a bit of thought before you leap to a conclusion like that is in order.


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I don't think anyone is arguing that there are not individual journalists who are decidedly liberal in their slant.



Far more than you seem prepared to admit.


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But all in all, with the exception of a few publications, the mainstream media ranges from slightly right of center to waaaaaaaay right of center.



Sure they do. There is ONE right leaning news channel, no right leaning networks, few right leaning papers and magazines. The only area conservatives seem to have an advantage in is talk radio.


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And the article you wouldn't read was from the Washington Post...



No shit? If I hadn't attempted to follow the link how would I know registration was required? If I know it is, I'm obviously aware of the source. Won't read? Bullshit. I said I would read it if it's pasted here. I simply do not go to most sites where cookies and registration are required.


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2002362 - 10/12/03 11:53 AM (20 years, 5 months ago)

The media was strangly silent about this type of thing when Clinton was involved

Since when was Clinton the champion of the left?


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    #2002607 - 10/12/03 02:15 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

*The media was strangly silent about this type of thing when Clinton was involved, yet waited until only days before the election to do a story with witnesses who couldn't be named.

The media's been strangely silent when it comes to Bush's connections to big oil and the Saudis. It has been equally silent concerning Dick Chaney's connections to Enron.


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2002680 - 10/12/03 02:49 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

That link doesnt require registration. Answer the questions however you wish. It's the Washington Post.. dont be lazy.
It doesnt ask your for your email or anything.. Sheesh.

Gern, I agree.

But the fact is, most conservatives swear this huge bias! Just because an idea differs with theirs, they tend to blow the few into the many. It gets to the point where they can even create a world in their head that allows them to think the only media outlet in which conservatives have an advantage is maybe radio.

Us liberals or actually, Im a commonsenser, realize that the media is right leaning and get gleeful when we see someone actually telling the other side of the story.


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    #2002907 - 10/12/03 04:36 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

You can sheesh all you want. When I click on it, it takes me to a registration page (or whatever you'd like to call it) It also requires cookies. I do not accept cookies. I don't register on most sites.

Pretty fucking sad when you can't even take someones word for that.


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But the fact is, most conservatives swear this huge bias! Just because an idea differs with theirs, they tend to blow the few into the many.



Substitute the word liberal for conservative and your sentence becomes an accurate one.


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It gets to the point where they can even create a world in their head that allows them to think the only media outlet in which conservatives have an advantage is maybe radio.



That's the only place they do, like it or not.


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    #2002909 - 10/12/03 04:36 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

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The media was strangly silent about this type of thing when Clinton was involved

Since when was Clinton the champion of the left?



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    #2002912 - 10/12/03 04:37 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

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*The media was strangly silent about this type of thing when Clinton was involved, yet waited until only days before the election to do a story with witnesses who couldn't be named.

The media's been strangely silent when it comes to Bush's connections to big oil and the Saudis. It has been equally silent concerning Dick Chaney's connections to Enron.



You should stop reading papers that only have funnies in them then.


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    #2002925 - 10/12/03 04:43 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

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The media was strangly silent about this type of thing when Clinton was involved, yet waited until only days before the election to do a story with witnesses who couldn't be named.



Ok, excuse my ignorance, but what exactly are you talking about?


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    #2002959 - 10/12/03 04:56 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Well Arnold was accused of groping, Clinton was accused of raping and grouping, yet the same people who are so quick to pile onto Arnold, didn't react with the same "moral" indignation.

I realize Clinton was more or less before your time, but try googles on the following.....
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    #2002963 - 10/12/03 04:59 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Oh, I know plenty about Clinton and his little affairs BECAUSE THE "LIBERAL MEDIA" WOULDN'T SHUT UP ABOUT THEM.


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    #2002971 - 10/12/03 05:03 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

:lol:  Sure, when they were pinned to the wall.  :lol:

Anyone who can watch the news or read the paper without detecting the venom in either, is not a very observant person.


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    #2002982 - 10/12/03 05:07 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

And anyone who watches the news without realizing that the bias goes both ways is blind.


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    #2002985 - 10/12/03 05:08 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

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And anyone who watches the news without realizing that the bias goes both ways is blind.



Where did I say there wasn't any in both directions?

There's merely far more liberal bias.


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    #2002989 - 10/12/03 05:10 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

There's simply a ratings bias. Whatever story will get them better ratings, they'll cover.


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    #2003003 - 10/12/03 05:14 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

:lol:  Sure.

Explain it anyway you'd like.


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    #2003005 - 10/12/03 05:15 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

I just explain in a "not-having-my-head-up-my-ass" sort of way.


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I just explain in a "not-having-my-head-up-my-ass" sort of way.



I hadn't noticed.


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    #2003012 - 10/12/03 05:18 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Then maybe you need to get your head out of there. :wink:


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    #2003016 - 10/12/03 05:20 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Weak, but an easy way of admitting defeat.


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    #2003017 - 10/12/03 05:21 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

What defeat?


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    #2003073 - 10/12/03 05:46 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Can't we all agree that the news on American TV is basically anti-freedom?

I don't see it as a left or right thing anymore, it appears that's the game they want people to get distracted with...

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    #2003113 - 10/12/03 06:00 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

To elaborate a little...I watch more TV than I like to admit, and here are some issues that I have never seen examined "properly" or at all:

*The War On (some) Drugs
*Militarization of our police
*The Patriot Act
*Project For A New American Century
*Checkpoints
*Withering of states' rights
*RAVE act
*Drugs/Terrorism connection
*Waco/Ruby ridge

and I'm sure you guys could add others...

Most news on fox, cnn, msnbc, etc. is filler tabloid news (kobe, rush, peterson murder case) that only really affects a few people but doesn't really mean anything.

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    #2003220 - 10/12/03 06:35 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

^^^excellent points.


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: Observer]
    #2003228 - 10/12/03 06:37 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

*Lovedumshrooms:The media was strangly silent about this type of thing when Clinton was involved, yet waited until only days before the election to do a story with witnesses who couldn't be named.

*Me:The media's been strangely silent when it comes to Bush's connections to big oil and the Saudis. It has been equally silent concerning Dick Cheney's connections to Enron.

*Luvdemshrooms: You should stop reading papers that only have funnies in them then.
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Hey Luvdem, that was funny. Too bad you did what I have seen you do a lot on this thread. Knock down an idea without proof, logic or reason.

(ie: How often need I repeat this.

He was the best of bad choices.
He was the best of bad choices.
He was the best of bad choices.
...et all...)

Hey Luvdem, let me make my statement again.

I want to know what you REALY think.

The media's been strangely silent when it comes to Bush's connections to big oil and the Saudis. It has been equally silent concerning Dick Cheney's connections to Enron.

God, WHITEWATER got more press.


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    #2003426 - 10/12/03 08:03 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

silversoul: Thank you...all those points are very important - without the shroomery and the internet we would barely even know the extent of what's really going on.

luvdemshrooms: Do you see real differences when it comes to government spending or sticking up for the constitution/bill of rights between the democrats and republicans?

Everyone: With regards to the war on terrorism, why haven't our borders been secured? Wouldn't that be one of the first things you'd do if you were in charge?

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    #2003910 - 10/12/03 10:45 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Oh, but our borders are being secured. Well, at least our borders with Canada and Mexico. But here's the funny part.

Since over 70% of Canada's exports and over 40% of their GNP come from trade with the US, and over 75% of Mexico's exports and 55% of their GNP come from trade with the US, well... we're making THEM pay for it. Why?

<sarcasm>
Cuz they owe us, goddamnit! We started up NAFTA so that they could make money to secure their countries' future by increasing their trade output, making them permanent partners in the "US Way of Doing Things (tm)".

So what if it's costing Canada over $650 million and Mexico over $200 million to do so. So what if both countries have had to cut back on health care and education in order to pay for strengthening our borders! It's not their fault that our borders need strengthened? HA! Our foreign policy may have started this mess, but they are our trade allies and they owe us their own livelyhoods!

Uhhhh... Just please don't mention that Canada and Mexico have both lost about a quarter of a million jobs (net) since NAFTA went into effect in 1994, or that Mexico has now nearly tripled it's output of toxic air polution (much of it within sight of the Texas border). We would appreciate it if they forgot about that.
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    #2003990 - 10/12/03 11:10 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

You did something.


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    #2004113 - 10/12/03 11:48 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Too bad you did what I have seen you do a lot on this threadKnock down an idea without proof, logic or reason.

Hey,why break the habit of a lifetime? :smile:


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    #2004451 - 10/13/03 02:31 AM (20 years, 5 months ago)

It isn't so much the Conservative philosophy I mind (Small govt., low taxes, big military), it is their way of getting things done; giving the rich the biggest tax break, recall, impeachment, redistricting, not allowing votes to get recounted (Bush woulda' won Florida anyway, why not recount the damn votes?) and the Conservative tendancy to hide behind Christianity whenever trouble comes along. Religion has no place in American politics.

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    #2004491 - 10/13/03 03:28 AM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

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Too bad you did what I have seen you do a lot on this threadKnock down an idea without proof, logic or reason.

Hey,why break the habit of a lifetime? :smile:



Kind of like that^^^


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    #2005420 - 10/13/03 01:44 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Wow luvdem, that was an artful evasion of my question... again.

I guess it is safe to say, in the eyes of the media, Bush and Cheney have a free pass when compared to Clinton.


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    #2005761 - 10/13/03 03:58 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

IF you asked one, I missed it.


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    #2006026 - 10/13/03 05:52 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

...sigh.

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Re: The liberal media. [Re: Rose]
    #2006335 - 10/13/03 07:41 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

This isnt for anyone in particular, but I love this quote:

""Liberal TV is dead on arrival," said an insider advising Mr. Gore and his team. "You just can't do it."

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    #2006380 - 10/13/03 07:54 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

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Oh, but our borders are being secured. Well, at least our borders with Canada and Mexico.




BS, the current estimate is that 1,300 illegal immigrants come into the USA from Mexico every day.

You think that's secure in this time of terrorism?

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    #2006400 - 10/13/03 08:02 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

No Mexican has bombed us. No terrorist who has attacked the USA has entered illegally from Mexico.

Mexican immigrants tend to work the crappy jobs than Americans don't want.

The nation's resturant industry would crumble if all illegal Mexicans were deported.

There are more serious concerns... like crossing the street.


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    #2006412 - 10/13/03 08:07 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Listen, my point is that the federal government wants you to give up your rights (Patriot Act) while not doing what is necessary to prevent another attack.

If terrorists wanted to get into the United States from Mexico, it would still be fairly easy.

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    #2006430 - 10/13/03 08:13 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

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If terrorists wanted to get into the United States from Mexico, it would still be fairly easy.



It would be far easier to simply find people within the United States willing to commit terrorist acts.


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    #2006443 - 10/13/03 08:17 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

But from what I'm saying, how would you do that if you didn't even know they were here?

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Re: The liberal media. [Re: Observer]
    #2006479 - 10/13/03 08:29 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

I-N-T-E-R-N-E-T


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: silversoul7]
    #2006512 - 10/13/03 08:36 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Could you explain?

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Re: The liberal media. [Re: Observer]
    #2006531 - 10/13/03 08:44 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

You could find people who are willing to commit terrorist acts by looking people up on the internet, via chatrooms, message boards, etc.


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: Observer]
    #2006540 - 10/13/03 08:48 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

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BS, the current estimate is that 1,300 illegal immigrants come into the USA from Mexico every day.

You think that's secure in this time of terrorism?




What should we do then? Build a great wall or something?


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: silversoul7]
    #2006562 - 10/13/03 08:55 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Sure if they were stupid enough to talk about it on the internet, but I don't think this detracts from my original point about Ashcroft wanting more federal power while not keeping people with unknown origins out of this country...

Anyways, this has nothing to do with the media being liberal or conservative so I'll shut up.


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: monoamine]
    #2006564 - 10/13/03 08:55 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

:smile:  We could build one of those snazzy fences that Israel  is building on the west bank.


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2006586 - 10/13/03 09:00 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Why don't you answer his question?

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Re: The liberal media. [Re: monoamine]
    #2006601 - 10/13/03 09:05 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

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What should we do then? Build a great wall or something?





I'd put the national guard on the borders to assist the INS.

Ok, now I'll shut up.

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Re: The liberal media. [Re: silversoul7]
    #2006609 - 10/13/03 09:07 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

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silversoul7 said:
You could find people who are willing to commit terrorist acts by looking people up on the internet, via chatrooms, message boards, etc.





I'd say that Al-Queda's security is a little bit higher than that.


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #2006665 - 10/13/03 09:22 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

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Baby_Hitler said:
You think that's liberal? That's nothing! I won't believe it untill someone names a mainstream US media source that broadcasts marxist propaganda 24 hours.





Hah. good one. that was sarcasm, right?


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: Xlea321]
    #2006792 - 10/13/03 09:58 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

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Alex123 said:
I think that's where the misunderstanding comes from. People see a black on TV and think that means the communists have taken over.





Maybe when they see networks competeing to outblack, out hispanic, or out-gay each other, they think that the wrong people are in charge?


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: lysergic]
    #2006869 - 10/13/03 10:23 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

^^^Or maybe you're just pulling that out of your ass.


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: silversoul7]
    #2006926 - 10/13/03 10:41 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

It's not true? Groups like the NAACP, GLAD, and whatever hispanics have don't put out numbers for the percentage of shows that involve their specific "minority" ? Stations don't try intentionally to raise the number of minority shows on their station? are you kidding me?


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: lysergic]
    #2006992 - 10/13/03 11:25 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Maybe when they see networks competeing to outblack, out hispanic, or out-gay each other, they think that the wrong people are in charge?

You're missing the point lys. I don't think a media is "liberal" because it doesn't mind the new gay hispanic character on "Friends".

I call a liberal media one that calls Clinton on increasing corporate welfare faster than Bush did, calls for increases in healthcare, minimum wage, workers rights, supports unions etc. THAT'S a liberal media.


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: lysergic]
    #2006997 - 10/13/03 11:27 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

It's not true? Groups like the NAACP, GLAD, and whatever hispanics have don't put out numbers for the percentage of shows that involve their specific "minority" ? Stations don't try intentionally to raise the number of minority shows on their station? are you kidding me?

Any proof? You've got a history of pulling stuff out your ass like "We brought freedom to Afghanistan". Until you provide a little evidence we're going to be sceptical.


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: Xlea321]
    #2007013 - 10/13/03 11:34 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

I'd like to know what you'd like as evidence, since you won't accept any information I post off of the main broadcasting sites (as they lie to us, as part of the GB-Osama massive global conspiracy), what would you like as proof?


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: lysergic]
    #2007028 - 10/13/03 11:39 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Anything would do.

Incidentally, so what if there's an a extra gay hispanic on the television, does that prove the media is run by communists?


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: Xlea321]
    #2007038 - 10/13/03 11:44 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

No, I never said it did. You are a total waste of my time, but I've got some to waste.

In the first post where yo mention communism, I reply, and not, at one time, to I mention communism. Not once. Not one singular occurance. I stated that with the rising numbers of black, latino and gay shows, with the latter being strongly against the values that the real majority o fAmerica agrees with, people might see how that would be "more liberal"

so, fuck wit, my question

do you think that more blacks, more latinos, and more homosexualis is the result of a conservativ, or a liberal media?

Just for reference, look a few posts back where you said that the media was probably more "left" on things like "racism, sexism and hmosexuality". didn't you earlier on AGREE with me, but when I stated it, you added stuff (the communist thin), and then DISAGREED withme. What a fuckwit


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: lysergic]
    #2007108 - 10/14/03 12:08 AM (20 years, 5 months ago)

so, fuck wit, my question

lys, calm down. This is a message board, you're not shooting at a few old goatherders in Iraq now you know.

do you think that more blacks, more latinos, and more homosexualis is the result of a conservativ, or a liberal media?

Neither. It's completely irrelevant. As long as the corporations have conditions to make enormous profits there can be as many black gay characters on "Friends" as you like. They really don't care. What they care about is unions, workers rights, increases in minimum wage, healthcare, the environment.


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: lysergic]
    #2007164 - 10/14/03 12:22 AM (20 years, 5 months ago)

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No, I never said it did. You are a total waste of my time, but I've got some to waste.

In the first post where yo mention communism, I reply, and not, at one time, to I mention communism. Not once. Not one singular occurance. I stated that with the rising numbers of black, latino and gay shows, with the latter being strongly against the values that the real majority o fAmerica agrees with, people might see how that would be "more liberal"

so, fuck wit, my question

do you think that more blacks, more latinos, and more homosexualis is the result of a conservativ, or a liberal media?

Just for reference, look a few posts back where you said that the media was probably more "left" on things like "racism, sexism and hmosexuality". didn't you earlier on AGREE with me, but when I stated it, you added stuff (the communist thin), and then DISAGREED withme. What a fuckwit




Isnt that post in like, violation of shroomery civil code?

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Re: The liberal media. [Re: ]
    #2007563 - 10/14/03 03:32 AM (20 years, 5 months ago)

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Fiend said:
Why don't you answer his question?



I looked again and as far as I can see he asked no question.


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: lysergic]
    #2007595 - 10/14/03 04:11 AM (20 years, 5 months ago)

You seem to be implying that blacks, latinos and gays cant be conservative.


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: GazzBut]
    #2007941 - 10/14/03 09:37 AM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Good point.


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2010623 - 10/15/03 02:42 AM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Ok lovedumshrooms,

Allow me to refresh everyone's memory.

Lovedem is now chosing to ignore my post because it wasn't phrased in the form of a question. That didn't bother him a few days ago when he responded by saying I get my info from the comics.

GEE! THANKS FOR THE GRAMMAR LESSON. And to think... I came here for the politics.

OK, now it is time for Final Jeapordy.

I'll recap what has been STATED, and lovedem can ANSWER in the form of a QUESTION.

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*10-12-03
*Lovedumshrooms:The media was strangly silent about this type of thing when Clinton was involved, yet waited until only days before the election to do a story with witnesses who couldn't be named.

*Me:The media's been strangely silent when it comes to Bush's connections to big oil and the Saudis. It has been equally silent concerning Dick Cheney's connections to Enron.

*Luvdemshrooms: You should stop reading papers that only have funnies in them then.
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Hey Luvdem, that was funny. Too bad you did what I have seen you do a lot on this thread. Knock down an idea without proof, logic or reason.

(ie: How often need I repeat this.

He was the best of bad choices.
He was the best of bad choices.
He was the best of bad choices.
...et all...)

Hey Luvdem, let me make my statement again.

I want to know what you REALY think.

The media's been strangely silent when it comes to Bush's connections to big oil and the Saudis. It has been equally silent concerning Dick Cheney's connections to Enron.

God, WHITEWATER got more press.
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There you go lovedem. Thanks in advance for your thoughtful reply.

BE SURE TO ANSWER IN THE FORM OF A QUESTION!

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Re: The liberal media. [Re: Rose]
    #2010704 - 10/15/03 03:44 AM (20 years, 5 months ago)

You do realize that merely making statements with no question in them, and then repeatedly asking why a question (of which there is none) hasn't been answered, does not magically make a question appear?


This...
"*Me:The media's been strangely silent when it comes to Bush's connections to big oil and the Saudis. It has been equally silent concerning Dick Cheney's connections to Enron."...
isn't a question. It's a statement of your beliefs, and an erroneous one as the media has reported on this. Hence... "You should stop reading papers that only have funnies in them then. "

Had it been an actual question there might have been something to address.


This, "I want to know what you REALY think", could be a question I suppose but questions are generally followed by these "?". It's called a question mark. It indicates.... now hold onto your hat for this one..... a QUESTION.

I didn't answer that because you didn't specify what it is you want to know "what I really think" about. Do you want to know:
What I think about TV?
What I think about spinach?
What I think about imported cars?
What I think about space flight?
What I think people who don't know how to ask questions?


As for this....
"Lovedem is now chosing to ignore my post because it wasn't phrased in the form of a question.".....
I didn't ignore you, I responded and asked what question. You chose not to clarify.

Later in this thread I was asked why I didn't answer by another poster. I pointed out there as well that no question had been asked.

That's your idea of ignoring? Frankly, your definition of ignore must be quite different than most.

Quote:

I'll recap what has been STATED, and lovedem can ANSWER in the form of a QUESTION.



You can recap things you have STATED as often as you like. It doesn't change the fact that a statement is not the same as a question.


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2011260 - 10/15/03 12:33 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Just so EVERYONE knows why you're being EVASIVE.

I thought you were bigger than that luvdum.

...especially since you started this thread.


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: Rose]
    #2011280 - 10/15/03 12:51 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

You think that's evasive? He's just getting warmed up..


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: Xlea321]
    #2011298 - 10/15/03 01:02 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Evasive is the right word isn't it?

After the grammar lesson, I hope I don't need a vocabulary lesson.


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2011672 - 10/15/03 03:06 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)



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Re: The liberal media. [Re: Rose]
    #2011769 - 10/15/03 03:36 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Evasive? I have asked in good faith what the question is.

If you can not be bothered answering my request for you to either show me what you asked, or if you can't be bothered to ask an actual question, then I can't help you.

So either ask, or stop being a fucking idiot. I don't care which option you choose.


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: Xlea321]
    #2011783 - 10/15/03 03:40 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

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You think that's evasive? He's just getting warmed up..



You aren't foolish enough to want to go head to head on questions that haven't been answered are you?

I have the time if you want to look foolish.


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2011791 - 10/15/03 03:43 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Here's a question:

Do you think you're helping your argument by treating me like chattle*?

* Yes chattle is a word luvdum. Look it up.


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: Rose]
    #2011796 - 10/15/03 03:45 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

So you're not going to answer? That's what I thought.


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2011814 - 10/15/03 03:50 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Come on.. look at the baby..
Maybe it will make you smile.

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Re: The liberal media. [Re: PsiloKitten]
    #2011834 - 10/15/03 03:55 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

I looked at the baby earlier. It did make me smile.


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2011847 - 10/15/03 04:01 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Good.


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: PsiloKitten]
    #2011851 - 10/15/03 04:02 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

I actually smile quite a bit. I'm content, happy, honest and I do what's right. I have a good life.

Who wouldn't smile?


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2011884 - 10/15/03 04:12 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

*luvdum: So you're not going to answer?

ANSWER? I thought you wanted me to ASK.

Two can play at this game.

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Re: The liberal media. [Re: Rose]
    #2011929 - 10/15/03 04:25 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Here, I'll repost my questions for you.....
1. "You do realize that merely making statements with no question in them, and then repeatedly asking why a question (of which there is none) hasn't been answered, does not magically make a question appear?"

2. Do you want to know:
What I think about TV?
What I think about spinach?
What I think about imported cars?
What I think about space flight?
What I think people who don't know how to ask questions?

3. That's your idea of ignoring?

Now, I've asked as many times as I plan to. If you haven't the IQ to actually ask a question, then you have my condolences.


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2011966 - 10/15/03 04:35 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

I will ANSWER any question you want answered.

1. Yes
2. No
3. Same question as two so it gets the same answer... I don't have the time nor the patience to type out my answer second time. Look at number two again if you need a reminder.


Now, here's three ?'s for you.

1: You do realize you picked this fight 'cause you were stumped by the statement, don't you?

2: You do realize you initially responded to the statement by saying I got my news from the comics, don't you?

3: If you understood what I meant, why did you go on a grammar rampage?

I don't correct your spelling luvdumshrooms.


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2011978 - 10/15/03 04:38 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Wednesday, Oct. 15, 2003 10:23 a.m. EDT
Big Media: Bush Has Declared War on Us

Now that President Bush has finally called the big media's bluff on its bad-news-only Iraq war coverage, mainstream reporters are squealing like stuck pigs.

CBS's John Roberts sounded particularly overwrought the other night, complaining that Bush's decision to circumvent the networks and tell the Iraq story to local TV affiliates amounted to a declaration of "war."

"It was the public relations equivalent of a declaration of war aimed at the national media, President Bush claiming the American people aren't getting the truth about Iraq," Roberts announced, according to quotes picked up by the Media Research Center.

The CBS'er griped that Bush chose local reporters because "the White House feels [they] will go easier on the president."

Perhaps. But maybe if the big media stopped ignoring important stories that don't comport with their political agenda, the president wouldn't be compelled to do an end run around their reporters. And we're not just talking about news of the U.S.'s successful rebuilding effort in Iraq.

Remember how furious the press was when a Washington Post poll found that 69 percent of Americans believed that Iraq played a role in 9/11? Journalists spent weeks insisting that the great unwashed had fallen for a full-blown White House con job seeking to foster the 9/11 "myth."

But rather than tell the whole story, the big media kept its lip zipped about Iraqi defectors who described an airplane-hijacking training facility in South Baghdad that offered instruction to radical Islamists on how to overcome flight crews using techniques that bore an eerie resemblance to those employed on 9/11.

And when, based in part on that testimony, Manhattan U.S. District Judge Harold Baer ruled last May that Iraq had indeed play a role in 9/11, Peter Jennings, Tom Brokaw and Dan Rather remained equally silent.

Two months later, when U.S. weapons inspectors found a significant contingent of the Iraqi air force buried beneath the sand near Baghdad, the press sat on that story, too.

Now that President Bush has finally shown that he's got the big media's number, here's hoping he sticks to his guns and continues to favor press outlets where his administration - and America - have a reasonable chance of getting a fair shake.
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Re: The liberal media. [Re: Rose]
    #2011999 - 10/15/03 04:45 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

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I will ANSWER any question you want answered.

1. Yes
2. No
3. Same question as two so it gets the same answer... I don't have the time nor the patience to type out my answer second time. Look at number two again if you need a reminder. No, it's not.


Now, here's three ?'s for you.

1: You do realize you picked this fight 'cause you were stumped by the statement, don't you? What fight. So at last you acknowledge it was a statement and not a question. Was that so hard?

2: You do realize you initially responded to the statement by saying I got my news from the comics, don't you? Yes, I responded to your STATEMENT.

3: If you understood what I meant, why did you go on a grammar rampage? No rampage. It just took you this long to admit it was a STATEMENT and not a question.

I don't correct your spelling luvdumshrooms.



If you'd like I could go back and point your spelling errors out for you. Language skills seem to be beyond your grasp.



Here's a short bit of help for you.....
Main Entry: state?ment
Pronunciation: 'stAt-m&nt
Function: noun
Date: circa 1775
1 : something stated : as a : a single declaration or remark : ASSERTION b : a report of facts or opinions
2 : the act or process of stating or presenting orally or on paper
3 : PROPOSITION 2a
4 : the presentation of a theme in a musical composition
5 : a summary of a financial account showing the balance due
6 : an opinion, comment, or message conveyed indirectly usually by nonverbal means
7 : an instruction in a computer program


Main Entry: 1ques?tion
Pronunciation: 'kwes-ch&n, 'kwesh-
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Middle French, from Latin quaestion-, quaestio, from quaerere to seek, ask
Date: 14th century
1 a (1) : an interrogative expression often used to test knowledge (2) : an interrogative sentence or clause b : a subject or aspect in dispute or open for discussion : ISSUE; broadly : PROBLEM, MATTER c (1) : a subject or point of debate or a proposition to be voted on in a meeting (2) : the bringing of such to a vote d : the specific point at issue
2 a : an act or instance of asking : INQUIRY b : INTERROGATION; also : a judicial or official investigation c : torture as part of an examination d (1) : OBJECTION, DISPUTE ue beyond question> (2) : room for doubt or objection (3) : CHANCE, POSSIBILITY

Maybe next time you ask someone to answer a question.... you'll have actually asked one.


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2012016 - 10/15/03 04:51 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

You smart ass, you edited your third question.

It was a copy of question two.

You changed it, then belittled me for responding to your original post.

That is NOT cool.

I'm not giving you a bad rating, but you are on my shit list.


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: Rose]
    #2012022 - 10/15/03 04:53 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Please refrence the above post^^^, any time I fail to ANSWER your future posts.


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: Rose]
    #2012055 - 10/15/03 05:00 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Tell you what, I'd like to see if you can show me where in this....

3. Same question as two so it gets the same answer... I don't have the time nor the patience to type out my answer second time. Look at number two again if you need a reminder. No, it's not.


.... I make an attempt to belittle you?

Yes I edited it because it was a repeat. It was edited immediately upon being posted and before your response was there.

So please, be adult enough to show me what supposedly was an attempt to "belittle" you.


Edited for a spelling error and brought to everyones attention so Cervantes doesn't feel "belittled".


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: Rose]
    #2012068 - 10/15/03 05:03 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

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Please refrence the above post^^^, any time I fail to ANSWER your future posts.




Ok, and you reference this entire post anytime you ask me a "question" which in fact (by your own admission) turns out to be a statement.


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2012072 - 10/15/03 05:04 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

I think you need a nappy.


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2012093 - 10/15/03 05:08 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Feel free to edit your spelling and grammar.

I just responded to your post as you wrote it.

You responded by saying I didn't answer your question when in fact I did.

You of all people should have known that, you edited it.

Then, you said q3 wasn't the same as q2 without mentioning your edit. This made me look worse than it made you look; and it only happeded because I responded to the post YOU posted.

Perhaps you didn't belittle me... no need to break out the dictionary.

You did bait and switch.

Thank you for your admission. You've moved off my shit list.


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: PsiloKitten]
    #2012098 - 10/15/03 05:09 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

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I think you need a nappy.



Actually what's needed is for people to be smart enough to know the difference between a question and a statement.

I notice you seem able to tell the difference. It's just a shame more can't.


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: Rose]
    #2012101 - 10/15/03 05:10 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

*: Ok, and you reference this entire post anytime you ask me a "question" which in fact (by your own admission) turns out to be a statement.

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Re: The liberal media. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2012107 - 10/15/03 05:12 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Text isnt perfect.

Humans arent perfect.



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Re: The liberal media. [Re: PsiloKitten]
    #2012119 - 10/15/03 05:14 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Well, luvdumshrooms may be perfect. I admit I'm not.


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: Rose]
    #2012125 - 10/15/03 05:18 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

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Feel free to edit your spelling and grammar.



Fortunately it rarely needs it. When it does, more often than not it's because my typing skills suck.

Quote:

I just responded to your post as you wrote it.



I don't doubt you but it was edited before your post showed up.

Quote:

You responded by saying I didn't answer your question when in fact I did.



No, I responded by saying it wasn't the same question.

Quote:

You of all people should have known that, you edited it.



Well you got one right. Good for you.

Quote:

Then, you said q3 wasn't the same as q2 without mentioning your edit.



OK

Quote:

This made me look worse than it made you look; and it only happeded because I responded to the post YOU posted.



It didn't make anyone look like anything. It certainly didn't make you look bad.

Quote:

Perhaps you didn't belittle me... no need to break out the dictionary.



Perhaps?  :lol:

Quote:

You did bait and switch.



had I waited to edit my post until after you had responded, THAT would be bait and switch. I could post the definition for you if that would be helpful.

Quote:

Thank you for your admission. You've moved off my shit list. 



Good. I wasn't sure I could go on.


Newsflash.... I don't give a shit about your shit-list.


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: Rose]
    #2012140 - 10/15/03 05:21 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

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*: Ok, and you reference this entire post anytime you ask me a "question" which in fact (by your own admission) turns out to be a statement.

Hopefully we can argue like civilized adults.




I don't know.... have you learned the difference between a statement and a question?

It's difficult to carry on a discussion when only one party knows the difference between the two.


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2012141 - 10/15/03 05:22 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Wow.

Luvdem,
You are really casting negative energy on my cerebral chakras today.


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: PsiloKitten]
    #2012147 - 10/15/03 05:22 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

PsiloKitten said:
Text isnt perfect.

Humans arent perfect.





How true.

However, I'd be surprised if you can't admit that there is a difference between a single "mistake", and carrying on the claim for several posts that a question had been asked when it's obvious one had not.


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: Rose]
    #2012151 - 10/15/03 05:24 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Cervantes said:
Well, luvdumshrooms may be perfect. I admit I'm not.



Sadly, I'm not.


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2012152 - 10/15/03 05:24 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Let it go.


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: Rose]
    #2012156 - 10/15/03 05:25 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

What was this thread about?

Oh yeah, the liberal media.

Let me (re)start things off with a few questions.

Wasn't the media tougher on Bill and Hillary for Whitewater than they were on George W. for his connections to the Saudis and Big oil?

Wasn't the media tougher on Bill Clinton getting his dick sucked than they were on Dick Cheney for his connections to the Enron dick suckers?

Wasn't the media tougher on Bill Clinton getting his dick sucked than they were on George W. for his connections to the Saudis and Big oil?

Wasn't the media tougher on Bill and Hillary for Whitewater than they were on Dick Cheney for his connections to the Enron dick suckers?


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: Rose]
    #2012172 - 10/15/03 05:30 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

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Wasn't the media tougher on Bill and Hillary for Whitewater than they were on George W. for his connections to the Saudis and Big oil?



No.

Quote:

Wasn't the media tougher on Bill Clinton getting his dick sucked than they were on Dick Cheney for his connections to the Enron dick suckers?



No. The stink was aboult lying under oath to a grand jury.

Quote:

Wasn't the media tougher on Bill Clinton getting his dick sucked than they were on George W. for his connections to the Saudis and Big oil?



No.

Quote:

Wasn't the media tougher on Bill and Hillary for Whitewater than they were on Dick Cheney for his connections to the Enron dick suckers?



No.


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2012187 - 10/15/03 05:33 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Could you please, provide some proof?


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: Rose]
    #2012193 - 10/15/03 05:34 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Don't get me wrong luvdumshrooms, you are truely a master debater.


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    #2012214 - 10/15/03 05:41 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

heh.

I was wondering why you hadn't responded to my
message this morning and then I saw this thread...

I see you've had your hands full today!

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Re: The liberal media. [Re: Rose]
    #2012243 - 10/15/03 05:47 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

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Cervantes said:
Could you please, provide some proof?



Now be real, other than the question about Bubba getting his dick sucked, how would one prove that other than a Nexus search showing the number of stories devoted to each? Even then short of compiling the aforementioned stories into a summary, how would you prove it?

Now the grand jury transcripts would prove the fuss was about lying under oath and not whether Bubba blew his load on some groupies dress.

I suspect your age is a factor here. You strike me as being rather young and as such I suspect you weren't paying as much attention then as you are now. I could of course be wrong.


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    #2012246 - 10/15/03 05:48 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

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Don't get me wrong luvdumshrooms, you are truely a master debater. 



How courteous of you to add the extra letters!    :wink:


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: afoaf]
    #2012250 - 10/15/03 05:49 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

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I see you've had your hands full today!



School has been is session for awhile. Some are slow learners and required extra help.  :lol:


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2012306 - 10/15/03 06:06 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Stop trolling.

Move on with life.


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    #2012312 - 10/15/03 06:07 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

This is his life.


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    #2012319 - 10/15/03 06:09 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

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    #2012336 - 10/15/03 06:16 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

What are you talking about.

He's here to educate us.

:smile:

This whole political quagmire is my life too..

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Re: The liberal media. [Re: Rose]
    #2012346 - 10/15/03 06:19 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

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Cervantes said:
Stop trolling.

Move on with life. 



If I was trolling I'd have left out the  :lol:


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: PsiloKitten]
    #2012352 - 10/15/03 06:21 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

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This is his life.



Actually I have a very good life. I'm happy and healthy. I have everything I need. I do my bit to help others.

More should be so lucky.


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2012363 - 10/15/03 06:25 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Read my next post.

I wasnt meaning that as an insult.

Im not very in touch with emoticons.


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: PsiloKitten]
    #2012392 - 10/15/03 06:33 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Read my previous post.

As far as I can see I didn't say you meant it as an insult.


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: PsiloKitten]
    #2012639 - 10/15/03 07:46 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

*But he's pushing it with the grammar

That is what I mean. I admitted one page ago that I was wrong and he has yet to make a post aimed towards me that fails to mention my problem with grammar.

That is trolling.

It seems he is trying to provoke me into saying something I'd regret.

He is so far off topic, the only thing he is trying to do is provoke me.


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: Rose]
    #2012655 - 10/15/03 07:49 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Sorry you feel that way. It wasn't my intent and I'll merely repeat this....

If I was trolling I'd have left out the  :lol:  . 


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2012675 - 10/15/03 07:54 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Look, luvdum, it'd be like me making fun of one of your spelling errors for 40 posts.

Just kidding doesn't cut it.


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: Rose]
    #2012684 - 10/15/03 07:57 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Bummer.


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2012689 - 10/15/03 07:59 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Indeed.


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: Rose]
    #2012691 - 10/15/03 07:59 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

:lol: 


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: Rose]
    #2012702 - 10/15/03 08:01 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Now, a question.

Can you prove the media leans towards the left or the right more than it leans towards COMMERCIALISM?

I thought it was decided days ago:

We are victims of a COMMERCIAL media.


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: Rose]
    #2012704 - 10/15/03 08:01 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

:wink:


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: Rose]
    #2012713 - 10/15/03 08:03 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

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Can you prove the media leans towards the left or the right more than it leans towards COMMERCIALISM?



Other than a simple count of storys? No. Of course not.

As in every poll (this thread was about a poll), it relects opinions.


Quote:

I thought it was decided days ago:

We are victims of a COMMERCIAL media.



I don't recall being convinced that's all it is.


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2012715 - 10/15/03 08:04 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

I was.


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: Rose]
    #2012718 - 10/15/03 08:05 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Cervantes said:
I was.



So that means.... "it was decided"?

How very pompous of you.


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2012724 - 10/15/03 08:07 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Indeed.
:lol: 


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: Rose]
    #2012729 - 10/15/03 08:08 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

But that is what he DOES.

It is his tactic.

Interesting from a conservative, eh?


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: PsiloKitten]
    #2012734 - 10/15/03 08:11 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Yup.


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: Rose]
    #2012776 - 10/15/03 08:33 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Luvdum, can you prove the media leans towards the left or the right more than it leans towards COMMERCIALISM?


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2013320 - 10/15/03 11:38 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

So either ask, or stop being a fucking idiot.

Can a mod have a word with luv about this sort of crap?


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: Xlea321]
    #2013336 - 10/15/03 11:43 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Alex,

Luvdem didn't do himself any favors tonight, but it isn't the end of the world. Of all the things he needs, a slap on the wrists is hardly one of them.

There are bigger things to worry about... like the liberal media.

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Re: The liberal media. [Re: Xlea321]
    #2013348 - 10/15/03 11:48 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah, right.



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Re: The liberal media. [Re: PsiloKitten]
    #2013366 - 10/15/03 11:53 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

I'm serious!

I'm watching MSNBC right now and that Joe Scarborough is spouting his Liberalism!

Watch out!


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: Rose]
    #2013752 - 10/16/03 03:35 AM (20 years, 5 months ago)

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Luvdem didn't do himself any favors tonight, but it isn't the end of the world.



Hey, at least I did you a favor. Now you know the difference between a question and a statement. At least I hope that after all that, you know.

Now, I was hoping you'd be mature enough to let last night be the end of it. Apparently I was wrong.

If you'd like to continue your lesson today perhaps PM's would be more appropriate.


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2014107 - 10/16/03 09:31 AM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Now, I was hoping you'd be mature enough

Says the man who "debates" like this:

So either ask, or stop being a fucking idiot.

:rolleyes:


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: Xlea321]
    #2014384 - 10/16/03 11:45 AM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Hey Luvdum, How bout I say this and then let it go?

You are so smart. You have taught me so much... especially the difference between a scentence and a question.

Thank you for repeating your point over and over because I didn't get it the first time. Hell, I didn't get it the fourteenth time you told me either.

Fortunately, you kept trying. By the time you told me the difference between a question and a statement for the twenty third time, I was begining to understand what you meant.

You meant a question is like a scentence but it ends with a funny curved symbol like this: "?".

My eyes are open. Now that I understand the differnce between a question and a scentence, I can't support the Left wing any more. In fact, now I support the Right.

Once I understood the differences between a scentence and a question, I went back and read this entire thread. Boy! What a difference that made.

I sure would've understood this thread better the first time, if I had read it... unfortunately; reading is hard when you don't know the difference between a question and a statement.

Now that I know the difference between a scentence and a question, I CAN READ!

THANK YOU LUVDUM.
THANK YOU LUVDUM.
THANK YOU LUVDUM.
THANK YOU LUVDUM.
THANK YOU LUVDUM.
THANK YOU LUVDUM.
THANK YOU LUVDUM.
THANK YOU LUVDUM.
THANK YOU LUVDUM.
THANK YOU LUVDUM.
THANK YOU LUVDUM.
THANK YOU LUVDUM.
THANK YOU LUVDUM.
THANK YOU LUVDUM.
THANK YOU LUVDUM.
THANK YOU LUVDUM.

I could do that all day.

I'm sorry for not sending you a PM luvdum, I know you WANT one, but I thought the whole Shroomery should have a chance to read how I feel about you and, well, it is my perogative to post what I want... gramatical errors and all.

Thank you again for being such a great teacher. And thank you for repeating my error time and time again. If you didn't repeat yoursell all those 23 times, I never would have learned to read.

There is only one thing I don't understand luvdum, and I'll be sure to phrase it in a question:

WHAT THE FUCK DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH POLITICS?

Luvdum, as your (and now my) hero, Bill O'Reiley says,

I'll give you the last word,

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Re: The liberal media. [Re: Rose]
    #2014548 - 10/16/03 12:41 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)



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Re: The liberal media. [Re: silversoul7]
    #2014726 - 10/16/03 01:27 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Yup. Derailed indeed.

Time to lock this sucker until folks decide they want to address the topic of the thread -- the Gallup poll results.

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