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OfflineSquattingMarmot
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Re: The liberal media. [Re: silversoul7]
    #1997761 - 10/10/03 03:08 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

I just found this recent study, it showed that the more you watch mainstream television, the more likely you'll have the facts wrong about the aftermath of Post-Saddam Iraq.

We Report, You get it Wrong.

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... and the more you watch the Rupert Murdoch-owned Fox News channel, in particular, the more likely it is that your perceptions about the war are wrong, adds the report by the University of Maryland's Program on International Policy Attitudes (PIPA).

Based on several nationwide surveys it conducted with California-based Knowledge Networks since June, as well as the results of other polls, PIPA found that 48 percent of the public believe US troops found evidence of close pre-war links between Iraq and the al-Qaeda terrorist group; 22 percent thought troops found weapons of mass destruction (WMD) in Iraq; and 25 percent believed that world public opinion favored Washington's going to war with Iraq. All three are misperceptions.

The report, Misperceptions, the Media and the Iraq War, also found that the more misperceptions held by the respondent, the more likely it was that s/he both supported the war and depended on commercial television for news about it.




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"People who have had a strong belief that there is an unholy alliance between politics and the press now have more evidence." Fox, in particular, has been accused of pursuing a chauvinistic agenda in its news coverage despite its motto, "We report, you decide".




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Re: The liberal media. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1997776 - 10/10/03 03:12 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Well, let's see...if the media was liberal, then they'd want to make the conservative candidate look bad and the liberal candidate look good, would they not?


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: silversoul7]
    #1997780 - 10/10/03 03:14 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

In a VERY simplistic world, yes.

Is that the type of world you live in?


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1997785 - 10/10/03 03:15 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

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luvdemshrooms said:
In a VERY simplistic world, yes.

Is that the type of world you live in?



No, we live in a world where the media is NOT liberal, except maybe on certain social issues, such as racism, sexism, homophobia, etc.


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: silversoul7]
    #1997799 - 10/10/03 03:18 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: The liberal media. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1997811 - 10/10/03 03:20 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: The liberal media. [Re: silversoul7]
    #1997819 - 10/10/03 03:22 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: The liberal media. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1997826 - 10/10/03 03:23 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

:rolleyes:


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: silversoul7]
    #1997834 - 10/10/03 03:27 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

:kiss:


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: Rose]
    #1997846 - 10/10/03 03:30 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

The media is increasingly owned by muti-national mega corporations, which are anything but "liberal" (unless you use the old-school definition of liberal and mean favoring free-trade). Reporters may seem "liberal" but its inconsequential. Think not of what you do see, but of what you do not see. That should show you how liberal the news is. For more info go to: www.projectcensored.org

Is it possible that they (corporate owners) want you to think that there is a liberal bias? Could this debunk liberalism in general?

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Re: The liberal media. [Re: SquattingMarmot]
    #1997881 - 10/10/03 03:44 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Loaded questions, written to generate a specific outcome.

From Andrew Sullivan:
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EMAIL OF THE DAY: "I read with interest your post today, Fri 10th Oct, on the poll purporting to show that Fox News viewers are more likely to hold false beliefs. The poll and its associated reporting are evidence of leftist bias, but I disagree with you about how the poll is biased. Notice, all three questions have a false pro-war answer and a true anti-war answer, so that the results are obviously conflating being mis-informed with being pro-war. This is probably not even intentional on the poll authors' part.

Imagine an opposite kind of poll asking, for example:

Did President Bush claim before the war that the threat to the US from Iraq's WMD was imminent?
Do a majority of Iraqis support the US invasion?
Did the US sell significant amounts of arms to Saddam Hussein?
Was the toppling of the Saddam statue at the end of the war staged?
A poll asking these or similar questions would doubtless find that Fox News viewers have the most accurate grasp of reality and NPR listeners the least."

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Edited by wingnutx (10/10/03 03:50 PM)

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Re: The liberal media. [Re: wingnutx]
    #1997993 - 10/10/03 04:22 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Out of interest how would a fox viewer answer these questions?


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: GazzBut]
    #1998020 - 10/10/03 04:27 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

I'm guessing no, yes, no, no.


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: Xlea321]
    #1998646 - 10/10/03 08:41 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Fox News never once said they wish Hitler had won the war.

Bang there goes that conservative bias theory.


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1999100 - 10/11/03 12:21 AM (20 years, 5 months ago)

He was the best of bad choices.

You've been offering this as a "reason" for voting Bush for a while now luv. Do you really think the figurehead at the top makes such a vast difference to the policies a democrat or republican government follows? Why not just admit you prefer right wing policies instead of this "best of bad choices" nonsense?


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: havatampa]
    #1999109 - 10/11/03 12:25 AM (20 years, 5 months ago)

The media is increasingly owned by muti-national mega corporations

True.

Makes it even stranger that they're all allegedly "liberal" and would support left-wing policies that would cut their profit levels - support unions, support workers rights etc.

Not very likely when you think about it is it.


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: Xlea321]
    #1999129 - 10/11/03 12:40 AM (20 years, 5 months ago)

The only liberal bias I can really find in the media is its political correctness, but this mainly has to do with not trying to offend their viewers.


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: silversoul7]
    #1999134 - 10/11/03 12:43 AM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah I guess they can be as liberal as they like in certain areas like race relations etc it's just the economic areas likely to improve the lives of workers and affect corporate profit levels where the "liberal bias" will end.


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: havatampa]
    #1999144 - 10/11/03 12:50 AM (20 years, 5 months ago)

The only liberalism in media is in the form of political correctness and entertainment.

oh.. and...havatampa is one smart enchilada.


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Re: The liberal media. [Re: PsiloKitten]
    #1999168 - 10/11/03 01:05 AM (20 years, 5 months ago)

I think that's where the misunderstanding comes from. People see a black on TV and think that means the communists have taken over.


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