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silversoul7
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"No, and I won't read it until I can do so for free as I try to not support assholes.
So, if Bush writes a book I'll use the same criteria in deciding whether or not to read it and pay for it.
So the only way to support an asshole is by buying his book?
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luvdemshrooms
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Why? Have you written one?
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silversoul7
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Yes, it's called "Lies, and the Lying Liars Who Lie About People Who Write Books About Lies and Lying Liars."
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luvdemshrooms
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Yow!
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Rose
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Makes me want to start supporting assholes.
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Rose
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You forgot the subtitle, "A Fairly Fair and Balanced Book About Balancing Fairly Fair, Fairly Balanced Fairness"
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Re: The liberal media. [Re: Rose]
#1995078 - 10/09/03 08:31 PM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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Its only fair.
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Re: The liberal media. [Re: Stein]
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...sigh
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Re: The liberal media. [Re: Zahid]
#1995729 - 10/09/03 11:44 PM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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So I presume no-one can provide me with an example of a US mainstream media source that condemed the war throughout the last 6 months and insisted Bush be tried for war crimes?
Bang goes the liberal media myth.
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Re: The liberal media. [Re: Xlea321]
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I think that would be fair to say.
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Re: The liberal media. [Re: Rose]
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Of course there are no concrete examples, Alex. All that ever gets tossed out here is a bunch of rhetorical "examples" on how the "mainstream" media leans to the left.
The poll listed initially is simply another example of the preponderance of a particular meme - in this case "The media has a liberal bias" (an untruth, at best), which has been repeated SO often by the likes of Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Ann Coulter, Bill O'Reilly, Larry Elder, et. al. that people have started to beleive that it's true, simply by cause of repitition. And as much as I hate them, between just those 4 people, they reach tens of millions of people a day who are now being lead to believe that they are being fed the whole truth and nothing but the truth by people who are simply defending our freedom from the evil, liberal media. That's a lot of meme repetition.
At the risk of pandering, I will point out that people once believed with all of their hearts that black people were not actually human, for no other reason than because they had been told this over and over and over. Yah - it's an extreme example, but you get the idea.
And please... if all you can point to for an example of just how liberal the mainstream media is 2 newspapers and 2 magazines... well then let me just say this to you: "The New Yorker". "The Weekly Standard". "The New York Post". "The Washington Times". See? The media is actually conservative as hell, if you take those 4 examples as a representative slice of the whole.
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I guess where I was trying to go with that lead-in before things spun so badly out of control was that I read Goldberg's book and was ABSOLUTELY sure he was right on the money.
then I read Franken's book and was ABSOTIVELY sure he was right on the money.
clearly both can't be right.
then I realized that there's a couple problems here:
1. it's all relative. 2. statistics and polls can be made to prove nearly any point. 3. coulter, limbaugh and hannity are buffoons. 4. regardless of left or right, NOBODY in the media is covering the real stories.
his book is funny, if nothing else.
I'd be happy to let you borrow it.
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Re: The liberal media. [Re: afoaf]
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According to the Pew Charitable Trusts Project for Excellence in Journalism, here's the tone of news coverage for Gore and Bush during the 2000 campaign:
Gore Positive: 13% Neutral: 31% Negative: 56%
Bush Positive: 24% Neutral: 27% Negative: 49%
Well, fancy that! The Democratic candidate got more negative coverage than the Republican candidate. So much for the "liberal media."
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luvdemshrooms
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He was the worse of the two, so your percentages are accurate.
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any conservative should know that the media is conservative. How come they dont curse on the news and show people having sex? Why is it that i cant find a single media source that fits my liberal beliefs.
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silversoul7
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Ha! I'd like to see him TRY to fuck up the country as much as Bush has.
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subjective, at best.
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luvdemshrooms
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We'll never know, but I suspect we'd be worse off on many fronts. The fact is your example proves nothing.
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Re: The liberal media. [Re: afoaf]
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afoaf said: subjective, at best.
I thought that obvious enough to not warrant mentioning.
-------------------- You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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