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Re: Anyone know how to make LSD? [Re: Icepic]
    #17283834 - 11/26/12 10:11 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

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GreedAndVanity said:
Holy shit, not this again!!  :facepalm:




If you're referring to the question at hand, I checked the search function and haven't found any answers to the question.  If you're referring to the thread itself, you're about a year late on your facepalm.  That may have been an appropriate reaction when this thread was first made but at this point there are actually questions being asked so...  :facepalm:


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Icepic said:
I belive it would be because different compounds at different stages of the synthesis are sensitive to different wave lengths of light. I have no chemistry backround, but that would make the sense to me.




That's what I think too, just seems like using the lowest frequency light would work for them all if the chemicals are light sensitive, but I guess that's not true.


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There are more people imprisoned for the commission of drug offenses in the United States - close to 500,000 - than are incarcerated in England, France, Germany, and Japan for all crimes combined.  Examined in another way, the United States has 100,000 more people incarcerated for nonviolent drug offenses than all the countries of the European Union combined, despite the fact that the European Union has 100 million more citizens. :crankey: 

- "Drugs and Drug Policy: The Control of Consciousness Alteration, 2007.

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Re: Anyone know how to make LSD? [Re: Shpongle1] * 1
    #17284082 - 11/26/12 11:21 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

There is a better forum for talking about these concepts i think is the main problem.  There is a area for chemistry, and you would get a lot better answers there if you had specific questions.

"Things To Remember When Working With Ergot Alkaloids, Lysergic Acid, And LSD

These compounds are very sensitive and even unstable. This means that the following steps must be taken to keep from ruining your compound or yield.

    Always use red or yellow photographic dark room light bulbs during any step of LSD manufacture. Direct sunlight, electric filament, or fluorescent light bulbs (etc.) will hurt the above compounds. Dark room bulbs are cheap and are a must. "

http://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/lsd-buzz.html


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Edited by GreedAndVanity (11/26/12 11:22 AM)

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Re: Anyone know how to make LSD? [Re: POWAtrippin]
    #17284143 - 11/26/12 11:31 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

You seem to assume that that means "Choose one of the following, and use that one at all times."  Whereas, after reading multiple write-ups, I take it to mean: "Use, at all times, a red or yellow bulb, color to be determined by what step you are on."  Why would they list two different colors within the same synthesis explanation?  I'm not saying it isn't possible using only one or the other, but there must be some reason they listed both and you don't seem capable of answering that question.

We all know that light can degrade ergot alkaloids, the question was not why should a red or yellow light be used, but why are both red and yellow listed as being used at different times.  Seems to me like red would've sufficed for the entire project but who knows.


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There are more people imprisoned for the commission of drug offenses in the United States - close to 500,000 - than are incarcerated in England, France, Germany, and Japan for all crimes combined.  Examined in another way, the United States has 100,000 more people incarcerated for nonviolent drug offenses than all the countries of the European Union combined, despite the fact that the European Union has 100 million more citizens. :crankey: 

- "Drugs and Drug Policy: The Control of Consciousness Alteration, 2007.

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Re: Anyone know how to make LSD? [Re: Shpongle1]
    #17290039 - 11/27/12 11:29 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

There is a guide for sale on the silk road about how to make LSD 2 ways. It is just notes from a chemist really. Also you can buy some ergot on there to get yeah started.


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Re: Anyone know how to make LSD? [Re: downhome]
    #17290122 - 11/27/12 11:40 AM (11 years, 3 months ago)

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There are more people imprisoned for the commission of drug offenses in the United States - close to 500,000 - than are incarcerated in England, France, Germany, and Japan for all crimes combined.  Examined in another way, the United States has 100,000 more people incarcerated for nonviolent drug offenses than all the countries of the European Union combined, despite the fact that the European Union has 100 million more citizens. :crankey: 

- "Drugs and Drug Policy: The Control of Consciousness Alteration, 2007.

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Re: Anyone know how to make LSD? [Re: Shpongle1]
    #17350713 - 12/07/12 03:17 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

regardless of all the other shit, ergotomine tartrate is the base precursor and until you have that or can make that nothing else matters for the TRUE synthesis.  You can make impure bathtub versions of almost any chemical but to make L right you need real organic chemistry training, a sterile lab environment, a bunch of expensive lab equipment and a pure spirit and good karma or else it will never work right and the people who DO know how to make it will never show you because they wont believe you to be worthy.  One thing about L is that it finds those who deserve it or are truly ready for it.
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Re: Anyone know how to make LSD? [Re: gratefulguru]
    #17729160 - 02/01/13 09:15 PM (11 years, 30 days ago)

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Re: Anyone know how to make LSD? [Re: velvetmagician]
    #17761312 - 02/07/13 11:26 AM (11 years, 25 days ago)

This would be the method of your interest:

Serious about LSD production?

Similar info that elaborates on the above:

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/14470415

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Re: Anyone know how to make LSD? [Re: s240779]
    #17761504 - 02/07/13 12:03 PM (11 years, 25 days ago)

I remember reading that if you buy a LOT of organic rye grass, something like 1 of every 20 bags (maybe it was 10) should contain a fungus that can be isolated for cultivation. I also remember reading a guide that explained what times to use which bulb, and was pretty in-depth on the procedure.  Anything you could need/want to know is a quick google search away, other than organic chemistry experience and the funds to obtain the equipment of course

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Re: Anyone know how to make LSD? [Re: velvetmagician]
    #17761679 - 02/07/13 12:43 PM (11 years, 25 days ago)

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velvetmagician said:
I was just curious, something I cannot pull off. I have a book called PSYCHODELIC CHEMISTRY but I did not understand wtf was going on. So LSD cannot be done by lay persons. Is there a way to do anything with ergot? Extract??





I could be wrong but from my understanding, ergot causes delusions, paranoia, and death.

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Re: Anyone know how to make LSD? [Re: godisamushroom]
    #17762931 - 02/07/13 04:23 PM (11 years, 24 days ago)

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godisamushroom said:
Quote:

velvetmagician said:
I was just curious, something I cannot pull off. I have a book called PSYCHODELIC CHEMISTRY but I did not understand wtf was going on. So LSD cannot be done by lay persons. Is there a way to do anything with ergot? Extract??





I could be wrong but from my understanding, ergot causes delusions, paranoia, and death.




no you're right...its called ergot poisoning or ergotism

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ergotism


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Re: Anyone know how to make LSD? [Re: velvetmagician]
    #18008302 - 03/25/13 12:12 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

Well it would be tricky to make lsd without some lab stuff, you would need a distillery setup of some sort and a way to dry your product under a vacuum. All lab stuff can be made out of metal and then coated with Teflon as metal is far easier to work with then glass. As far as the reaction goes you have 2 considerable options to go with, lsd via the one ot shot with Hydrazine route and lsd via sulfer trioxide. I suffest the sulfer trioxide because it is easier to get. as Hydrazine is not so easy to get or to work with. You will have to convert your lysergic acid amides into lysergic acid, activate with SO3 complex and then react with diethylamine to form lsd. the so3 can be made from fuming sulferic acid. both processes will require diethylamine which is not hard at all to make, ethanol and ammonia reaction. the so3 can be done with mainly hardwere store materials but will take some work. Good luck

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Re: Anyone know how to make LSD? [Re: Shpongle1]
    #18008314 - 03/25/13 12:15 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

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Holy shit, not this again!!  :facepalm:




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Re: Anyone know how to make LSD? [Re: velvetmagician]
    #19901797 - 04/26/14 03:27 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

I know I am bumping an old thread here, but I wanted to warn the OP.

I am researching this as well. I know it is not as hard as everyone says it is. I know they want to make it seem like its that hard, to keep you from making it.

From what little research I have done, it seems it is not illegal to make LSD since 1965, but this has to be verified.

It also appears that using Morning Glory Seeds is VERY DANGEROUS! Apparently they are coating them with some sort of toxin to discourage consumption. If you are going this route, best grow your own Morning Glory plants, and you will want to find seeds that are not biologically engineered.

If I find anything out, I will contact you via PM with the information. For now I would suggest holding off on pursuing this. If you get it off the street it could have all sorts of garbage in it. A friend of mine says there is a form of LSD That is not harmful to the human body, but it is made some specific way, and I have no idea what that is. The problem is what you find on the street will most likely not be made that way, so you could seriously be hurt.

The other posters have given good advice. Stick with shrooms, weed and peyote for now. Natural stuff that grows on the earth. Or raise your own Morning Glory plants and ingest their seeds. But as I have no experience with this plant, I do not advise it until you have researched it.


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Re: Anyone know how to make LSD? [Re: Deathbliss]
    #19901816 - 04/26/14 03:40 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

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It also appears that using Morning Glory Seeds is VERY DANGEROUS! Apparently they are coating them with some sort of toxin to discourage consumption. If you are going this route, best grow your own Morning Glory plants, and you will want to find seeds that are not biologically engineered.




here's a cool update for everybody interested in trying this with burpee seeds. As stvip recommended, I emailed the company that made my seeds and this was the reply I got as to my question of: Are the seeds chemically treated at all?:

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We do not treat our seed with any toxic chemicals.

Our seeds are untreated and we even have some vegetables in an organic
line.

You can feel free that the seeds you handle will not leave a residue of
toxicity on your hands.

Sue
Burpee Customer Service





08/03/05 | MycoMateo | http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/4490792#4490792


Burpee has NO pesticides nausea stomach discomfort and vomiting is normal on burpee morning glory seeds. (Last year i emailed them and asked) I never got sick off of burpee brand morning glory (flying saucers, heavenly blue)

06/25/07 | implee | http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/7092490#7092490


Legitimate example of treated seeds. That seeds were treated was specifically indicated:

I just received some seeds that were treated with fungicide maxim apron, I have never planted with treated seeds before, what do you think about health risks? Should i return them?

Thanks,Wendey


Jan 13, 12 | wendeyzee | http://forums2.gardenweb.com/forums/load/cornucop/msg011631318352.html




It has been suggested6 that the insecticide coating on the morning glory seed might be promoting adverse side effects that have been noted. The majority of commercial seeds are treated with N-tri-chlorete which is a fungicide and seed protectant having a tolerance of 100 parts per million.8 Thus, this is quite an inocuous product from the toxicologic point of view and would require ingestion of quantities beyond the capacity of the stomach to absorb, in amounts found as a seed coater, to be considered lethal.9 Symptoms involving the nervous system would be lacking if we were dealing only with the effects of this fungicide. Formerly, compounds containing mercury were used extensively as fungicides and there is the possibility that some seeds so treated might pose a toxicologic danger if ingested. This is considered unlikely as the newer seed protectants have been in use for a considerably longer period than the current morning glory fad.

It would seem then, that both the psychological and physiological effects observed in the ingestion of the seed of the morning glory reside in the alkaloids of the seed and not the seed protectant. The LSD-like reaction is most likely due to the LSD-like alkaloids for no pure LSD has as yet been isolated from the seed. As all compounds occurring in the morning glory seed have not been studied intensively enough to inspire confidence in their respective roles, they cannot yet be considered for scientific experimental use much less be used irresponsibly in excitement-seeking self-experimentation.

6. Cohen, S.: Suicide Following Morning Glory Seed Ingestion, Amer J Psychiat 120:1024-1025 (April) 1964.

8. Frear, D.E.H.: Pesticide Handbook, State College, Pa: College Science Publishers, 1963, p 8.

9. Frear, D.E.H.: Personal communication to the author, July, 1964.
JAMA, Dec 28, 1964 • Vol 190, No 13


Ingram AL (1964): Morning glory seed reaction. J. Amer. reed. Ass. 190, 1133–1134. doi:10.1001/jama.1964.03070260045019


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Or raise your own Morning Glory plants and ingest their seeds. But as I have no experience with this plant, I do not advise it until you have researched it.




You can have a clean experience if you do a chemical extraction. Hofmann like morning glory seeds.


Grof: Have you actually tried the ololiuhqui yourself? [uh-lowlee-uh-kee]
Hofmann: Yes, I did. But, of course, it is about ten times less active; to get a good effect, you need one to two milligrams.
Grof: And what was that experience like?
Hofmann: The experience had some strong narcotic effect, but at the same time there was a very strange sense of voidness. In this Void, everything loses its meaning. It is a very mystical experience.


Stanislav Grof Interviews Dr. Albert Hofmann. MAPS Bulletin 9.2 (Fall 2001): 22–35.

Ololiuqui corrected as ololiuhqui

NOTE: Although the spelling ololiuqui has gained wide acceptance and is now the commonest orthography, linguistic evidence indicates that this Nahuatl word is correctly written ololiuhqui.

Note by R.E. Schultes included in the following essay: R. Gordon Wasson. Notes on the Present Status of Ololiuhqui and the Other Hallucinogens of Mexico, Botanical Museum Leaflets, Harvard, vol. 20 (1963)



When I discovered LSD, it was believed it was a product of laboratory. And then we discovered that this compound had existed already for thousands of years in the plant kingdom. Not exactly, but practically.

Albert Hofmann, Hofmann's Potion (documentary).


When I discovered lysergic acid amides in ololiuqui, I realized that LSD is really just a small chemical modification of a very old sacred drug of Mexico.

Stanislav Grof Interviews Dr. Albert Hofmann. MAPS Bulletin 9.2 (Fall 2001): 22–35.


the psychic effects of ololiuhqui, in fact, differ from those of LSD in that the euphoric and the hallucinogenic components are less pronounced

Albert Hofmann, LSD: My Problem Child (1980)


After my experience with LSD, I have become cautious: we started by taking doses as small as 0.1 mg., gradually increasing the dosage. With 2 mg. of this crude indole fraction we got clear-cut psychic effects: a dream-like state resulted with drowsiness and alterations in the perception of objects and colors. This showed that the indole fraction of the Rivea extract contained the psychic active principles.

Albert Hofmann. The active principles of the seeds of Rivea Corymbosa and Ipomoea violacea. Botanical Museum Leaflets (Harvard University), 20, 6 (1963), page 202.


Im actually pretty suprised LSA doesnt get more attention as it is a truely great substance. I can actually admitt I like it evenly with LSD. All you hear about is people eating Hawaiian Baby Woodrose Seeds or Morning glories or sometimes Ololiuhqui. Some people even make crude alcohol extractions. I made a purified extract, with staggering results.

Kash, https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&m=326153#post326153


Further reading: Morning glory seed info archive

Edited by s240779 (04/26/14 03:48 AM)

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Re: Anyone know how to make LSD? [Re: s240779]
    #19901904 - 04/26/14 04:52 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

From what I have heard lsd is relatively easy to synthesize(average level chemistry) say if your dad knew how to do it(provided he had the supplies nessesary) he could probably teach you pretty simply. Ergotamine tartrate is not that hard to obtain, extracting it from ergot can be dangerous. Ergotamine isn't the problem in making LSD. The chemicals needed for the whole process will be very difficult(almost impossible) to obtain you'd need access to a lab and a credible reason to order those chemicals. LSD is a family business if your not brought into it, don't expect to learn it on your own.

LSA on the other hand is a very good thing to look into. It has similar effects to LSD, some can't even tell the difference(at certain doses). I've had a few runs with hbwr it mimicked the experience not as visual as LSD. Although with different alkaloid contents between the Ololiuhqui and Morning glorys some people have said that morning glory's are more visual and hbwr are more stimulating. I'm hopefully going to look into this more once I can get my hands on mg's, maybe I'll even order some ololiuhqui seeds. But I think the natural LSA sources are worth a try.

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Re: Anyone know how to make LSD? [Re: velvetmagician]
    #22530468 - 11/16/15 03:28 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

MAKING LSD IN YOU KITCHIN
1. GRIND UP 150 GRAMS OF MORNING GLORY
    SEEDS OR BABY HAWAIIAN WOOD ROSE
    SEEDS.

2. IN 130 CC. OF PETROLEUM ETHER, SOAK
    SEEDS FOR 2 DAYS.

3. FILTER SOLUTION THROUGH TIGHT SCREEN
    THEN THROW AWAY THE LIQUID AND
    ALLOW THE SEED MUSH TO DRY.

4. FOR ANOTHER 2 DAYS ALLOW THE MUSH TO
    SOAK IN 110 CC. OF WOOD ALCHOL.

5. FILTER THE SOLUTION AGAIN AND SAVING
    THE LIQUID IN A VIAL LABLED "1".

6. REPEAT STEPS 4 AND 5 PUTTIN THE
    LIQUID IN VIAL "2" AND THROWIN
  `  AWAY THE MUSH.

7. POUR THE 2 LIQUIDS IN A COOKIE TRAY
    AND ALLOW TO EVAPORATE. WHEN THIS
    IS DONE SCRAPE OF YELLOW MUCK,THIS
    IS YOUR FINAL PRODUCT.

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Re: Anyone know how to make LSD? [Re: Sum1n]
    #22530474 - 11/16/15 03:34 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

MAKING LSD
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  Common LSD, being of the strangest drugs, available to people on the
black market, is not too hard to make in your average run-of-the-mill
kitchen. LSD (Lysergic acid Diethylamide) is a complex organic mixure that
gives some people (most) a trip to the moon or other nearby celestial
body.


ITEMS NEEDED:
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1-About 200-250 grams of MORNING GLORY SEEDS or BAY HAWAIIAN WOOD ROSE 
SEEDS. The Morning Glory seeds can be obtained at most plant nurseries. 

2-200 cc. of petroleum ether

3-Small piece of window screen or a strainer

4-A couple of large glasses         

5-cookie tray (an old one, never to be used again)

6-260 cc. of wood alcohol (call your local drug store).                   

7-Capsule containers (jel)

=========================================================================

Let's get started:

1.  Grind up about 170 grams of Morning Glory Seeds.                 

2.  In 145 cc. of petroleum ether, soak the seeds for two or three days.

3.  With screen, filter the liquid thru it and save the seed mush and
allow it to dry completely.

4.  Let the mush soak in 130 cc. of wood alcohol.

5.  Filter solution again only.  Save the liquid in a large glass jar.

6.  Soak the seed mush again in 130 cc. of wood alcohol for two more days.

7.  Filter out the mush and keep the liquid.  Now, get the liquid that was
saved in step 5.

8.  Now, pour both liquids in a cookie tray and let it dry.                 

9.  When all the liquid has dried, a yellowish gummy looking substance will
appear on the cookie sheet.       

10. Take the yellow gum and put this into capsules.

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Re: Anyone know how to make LSD? [Re: Sum1n]
    #22531891 - 11/16/15 10:40 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Sum1n said:
MAKING LSD
------ ---
         
                                     
  Common LSD, being of the strangest drugs, available to people on the
black market, is not too hard to make in your average run-of-the-mill
kitchen. LSD (Lysergic acid Diethylamide) is a complex organic mixure that
gives some people (most) a trip to the moon or other nearby celestial
body.


ITEMS NEEDED:
----- ------

1-About 200-250 grams of MORNING GLORY SEEDS or BAY HAWAIIAN WOOD ROSE 
SEEDS. The Morning Glory seeds can be obtained at most plant nurseries. 

2-200 cc. of petroleum ether

3-Small piece of window screen or a strainer

4-A couple of large glasses         

5-cookie tray (an old one, never to be used again)

6-260 cc. of wood alcohol (call your local drug store).                   

7-Capsule containers (jel)

=========================================================================

Let's get started:

1.  Grind up about 170 grams of Morning Glory Seeds.                 

2.  In 145 cc. of petroleum ether, soak the seeds for two or three days.

3.  With screen, filter the liquid thru it and save the seed mush and
allow it to dry completely.

4.  Let the mush soak in 130 cc. of wood alcohol.

5.  Filter solution again only.  Save the liquid in a large glass jar.

6.  Soak the seed mush again in 130 cc. of wood alcohol for two more days.

7.  Filter out the mush and keep the liquid.  Now, get the liquid that was
saved in step 5.

8.  Now, pour both liquids in a cookie tray and let it dry.                 

9.  When all the liquid has dried, a yellowish gummy looking substance will
appear on the cookie sheet.       

10. Take the yellow gum and put this into capsules.



Both of your posts are LSA extractions, not how to make LSD, sorry to say.

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Re: Anyone know how to make LSD? [Re: Sum1n]
    #22532551 - 11/16/15 12:39 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Sum1n said:
MAKING LSD IN YOU KITCHIN
1. GRIND UP 150 GRAMS OF MORNING GLORY
    SEEDS OR BABY HAWAIIAN WOOD ROSE
    SEEDS.

2. IN 130 CC. OF PETROLEUM ETHER, SOAK
    SEEDS FOR 2 DAYS.

3. FILTER SOLUTION THROUGH TIGHT SCREEN
    THEN THROW AWAY THE LIQUID AND
    ALLOW THE SEED MUSH TO DRY.

4. FOR ANOTHER 2 DAYS ALLOW THE MUSH TO
    SOAK IN 110 CC. OF WOOD ALCHOL.

5. FILTER THE SOLUTION AGAIN AND SAVING
    THE LIQUID IN A VIAL LABLED "1".

6. REPEAT STEPS 4 AND 5 PUTTIN THE
    LIQUID IN VIAL "2" AND THROWIN
  `  AWAY THE MUSH.

7. POUR THE 2 LIQUIDS IN A COOKIE TRAY
    AND ALLOW TO EVAPORATE. WHEN THIS
    IS DONE SCRAPE OF YELLOW MUCK,THIS
    IS YOUR FINAL PRODUCT.




I'm not a spezialist but this looks more like an LSA extraction procedure.


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