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Psilocybin content of overgrown mushrooms
    #19879138 - 04/21/14 05:43 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

I was in the midst of a flush when i had to leave my house to spend two days at my parents for Easter. Upon returning I had mushrooms bigger than i've ever let them grow before. I remember hearing somewhere that once the veil tears on the caps the psilocybin content stays the same no matter how much bigger the mushrooms get. Is this true? If so how can i properly calculate doses with oversized mushrooms then?

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Re: Psilocybin content of overgrown mushrooms [Re: chisox100] * 1
    #19879148 - 04/21/14 05:45 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

You're overthinking it. Just eat some. Like RR has said before, scales are for little girls. Muhrooms are food.


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Re: Psilocybin content of overgrown mushrooms [Re: 36fuckin5]
    #19879471 - 04/21/14 06:54 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

you are over thinking it. ive notice a general trend where the smaller fruits are more potant per weight but that is all subjective and anecdotal and there could be (and probably is) a multitude of factors that contribute, genetics in particular if it was a MS grow. eat them bad boys like you normally would, and if you are worried about under dosing then bump it up another half gram

or do it like RR does and just eat them untill you are full

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Re: Psilocybin content of overgrown mushrooms [Re: 36fuckin5]
    #19879479 - 04/21/14 06:55 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

I've had some that got mushy and black from spores I think.  Anyway, ate them after dehydrating and got high.  So, I'd say they're okay even if way ripe.


Edited by refried (04/21/14 06:56 PM)

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Re: Psilocybin content of overgrown mushrooms [Re: 36fuckin5]
    #19879845 - 04/21/14 07:47 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

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You're overthinking it. Just eat some. Like RR has said before, scales are for little girls. Muhrooms are food.




um, guess i'm a pussy, cause that's retarded.  scales are for people who want to be able to more or less quantify the experience being distributed to friends when they ask how much they should take.  ya can't tell people you love, "just eat a handful."  this is a stunningly powerful substance, and it's irresponsible to disregard measured dosage, especially for those lacking much experience with it.

of course, that's just my opinion.  feel free to disagree.


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Re: Psilocybin content of overgrown mushrooms [Re: J. Jack Flash]
    #19879902 - 04/21/14 07:56 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

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um, guess i'm a pussy, cause that's retarded.  scales are for people who want to be able to more or less quantify the experience being distributed to friends when they ask how much they should take.  ya can't tell people you love, "just eat a handful."  this is a stunningly powerful substance, and it's irresponsible to disregard measured dosage, especially for those lacking much experience with it.

of course, that's just my opinion.  feel free to disagree.




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Re: Psilocybin content of overgrown mushrooms [Re: FooMan]
    #19880084 - 04/21/14 08:40 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

I guess I'm a dick. I usually just throw a big bag on the table and tell my friends to take a handful.


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Re: Psilocybin content of overgrown mushrooms [Re: MudaFuka]
    #19880120 - 04/21/14 08:46 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

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um, guess i'm a pussy, cause that's retarded.  scales are for people who want to be able to more or less quantify the experience being distributed to friends when they ask how much they should take.  ya can't tell people you love, "just eat a handful."  this is a stunningly powerful substance, and it's irresponsible to disregard measured dosage, especially for those lacking much experience with it.

of course, that's just my opinion.  feel free to disagree.



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I guess I'm a dick. I usually just throw a big bag on the table and tell my friends to take a handful.



This is the norm for me and my friends too though haha (should be noted that I am more careful about measured dosing with newcomers!)

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Re: Psilocybin content of overgrown mushrooms [Re: Mr.Sir]
    #19880327 - 04/21/14 09:29 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

That doesn't make you a dick. That makes you the life of the party.

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Re: Psilocybin content of overgrown mushrooms [Re: vikingsc]
    #19880382 - 04/21/14 09:38 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

:shrug:

I like the unknown doses a little better, honestly. I can eyeball reasonably well (within a gram at least) and if you don't know exactly how much you took you can be ready for whatever.

I'm also on Tim Leary's team when it comes to high doses being easier to handle than low ones though. Once you eat enough you can't fight it anymore, which is most peoples' problem, unless they already had problems. As long as your set & setting is right, nothing bad can really happen.


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Re: Psilocybin content of overgrown mushrooms [Re: MudaFuka]
    #19880425 - 04/21/14 09:44 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

Maybe I'm a dick, but you guys must not be growing very potent shrooms if eating a handful isn't a scary thought. Just sayin.


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Re: Psilocybin content of overgrown mushrooms [Re: 36fuckin5]
    #19880427 - 04/21/14 09:44 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

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I'm also on Tim Leary's team when it comes to high doses being easier to handle than low ones though. Once you eat enough you can't fight it anymore, which is most peoples' problem, unless they already had problems. As long as your set & setting is right, nothing bad can really happen.



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Re: Psilocybin content of overgrown mushrooms [Re: 36fuckin5]
    #19880432 - 04/21/14 09:46 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

I'm kinda in both camps. If its ms or something I know is pretty potent, I proceed with some caution. I have had some cubes where 2 grams was too much for me, I would never give those to my wife for instance. However sometimes I just get stoopid. Like with sclerotia, I usually just start munchin till I feel it, and expect others to do the same :crazy2:

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Re: Psilocybin content of overgrown mushrooms [Re: FooMan] * 1
    #19880455 - 04/21/14 09:51 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

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Maybe I'm a dick, but you guys must not be growing very potent shrooms if eating a handful isn't a scary thought. Just sayin.



My fruits have been insanely potent. I just find anything less than a completely mind raping trip to be unsatisfying.


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Re: Psilocybin content of overgrown mushrooms [Re: FooMan]
    #19880458 - 04/21/14 09:51 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

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Maybe I'm a dick, but you guys must not be growing very potent shrooms if eating a handful isn't a scary thought. Just sayin.




I'll do it with Pans, Galindois (fruitbodies and sclerotia) and Ovoids. Obviously I shoot for much less than 3-4 grams with exotics unless I really wanna get nuts. Set & setting is everything.

I'm sure it has a lot to do with my experience too. I spent 6 straight months on LSD. I spent a month on 5-MeO-AMT, I spent about 2 months on mushrooms, I've spent weeks on end on MXE. And I mean from dose with my first cig, maybe give it a half hour to wake up, then time it out so I just sober up long enough to sleep enough to get by. This overload I gave myself helps me guide other people.

I find that when you've got a noob on your hands and you've eaten twice as much as they did and you're still perfectly fine, it tends to calm their nerves. They think "Well he ate a lot, I must have only gotten a little."


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Re: Psilocybin content of overgrown mushrooms [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #19880521 - 04/21/14 10:00 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

if was told was eating this amount and was comfortable with that said number's weight, but in actuality it was of larger amount, would probably not worry having eaten to much.  i guess to be expecting the daydream and coming onto that daydream wether be 3 or 5 grams, the daydream be.

be interesting to a new comer if something along the lines gone like this.  say friend looking for the mushroom experience and very enthusiastic for what to come.  you got the bag and just offer him a handful, which he takes smiling.  he not worried for the exact amount, but has his sight on the experience to come, would probably not be fettering over having ate 5g and not 4.  you know?  for instance, did anyone really know the weight of the first time they eaten shrooms?  or knowledge of how much lie on that magical peace of paper?


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Re: Psilocybin content of overgrown mushrooms [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #19880620 - 04/21/14 10:15 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

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I have had some cubes where 2 grams was too much for me, I would never give those to my wife for instance.




I lemon tek'd 2g of pan cyans and lost my shit. 2g of cubes? Perfect dose for a mellow trip. I guess I get what people were saying. I'd eat a handful wet, but not a handful dry.

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Re: Psilocybin content of overgrown mushrooms [Re: WhoManBeing]
    #19880647 - 04/21/14 10:21 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

interesting points, all.  my largest dose so far was 3g whole plus about 6g worth in lemonade, all cubes.  never lost reality, but it tried getting scary.  guess i just meant when it comes to guiding the somewhat uninitiated, telling them to just chow down till they think it's enough is... i don't know what but not totally cool.  but if it's a crowd of usual suspects, they get it themselves.

thinking about it, my most intense trip so far was from just about 4g, powdered in chocolate form.  for a short time i could see nothing but flowing neon paisley everything, and i had to kill the music to make it stop.  i can't imagine if that had been my first experience.

i can also say with certainty, what i've been growing has been much stronger than any i'd scored in the past.  once again, no substitute for experience.


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Re: Psilocybin content of overgrown mushrooms [Re: J. Jack Flash]
    #19880663 - 04/21/14 10:24 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

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i can also say with certainty, what i've been growing has been much stronger than any i'd scored in the past.  once again, no substitute for experience.




Homegrown mushrooms are almost always more potent than the shit you get from some random hippie. Like any food, freshness makes all the difference.


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Re: Psilocybin content of overgrown mushrooms [Re: chisox100]
    #21871770 - 06/29/15 02:05 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

So these are ok ?




These where my previous flush pick. Potency should be bigger ?

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Re: Psilocybin content of overgrown mushrooms [Re: Mike4]
    #21871795 - 06/29/15 02:16 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Looks good to me, but maybe start your own thread instead of resurfacing year old threads? Just a thought.

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Re: Psilocybin content of overgrown mushrooms [Re: Mike4]
    #21871797 - 06/29/15 02:17 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Test them yourself and stop bumping old threads. I'd seriously take that shit with a grain of salt though. I took a 4 gram super mature mushroom thinking it'd be like an 8th. Turned out to be like 7g of some others. It was retardedly potent. It's more genetic based over maturity based.


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Re: Psilocybin content of overgrown mushrooms [Re: Mad Season]
    #21871801 - 06/29/15 02:19 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Makes me almost want to take agar transfers of every shroom and test them each individually; Seems quite time consuming though. :shrug:

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