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What is victory?
    #1987468 - 10/07/03 06:48 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Now, before you guys (and gals) start freaking out about me posting an article by Pat Buchanon let me explain a few things. First off, I am not a nazi-sympathizer as Mr. Buchanon is. I am not a conservative. I am not anti-semitic. I disagree with almost everything he says, except our views on the war in Iraq. He was against it from day one, as was I. I believe this is a well-written article that asks a very basic question; How do we define victory in Iraq?

Quote:

What is Victory?
by Patrick J. Buchanan, The American Conservative
06 October 2003
Where is the model for an enduring Western victory in the Arab and Islamic world?in the last 50 years?

Exasperated, Rush Limbaugh spelled out for his caller America?s goal in Iraq. ?It?s a seven-letter word,? roared Rush. It ?begins with ?v? and ends in ?y.??

?Define victory,? the caller retorted. Rush went to a break.

Excellent question. How do we know when we?ve won the war in Iraq? How do we define victory?

We know who we are fighting against ?Ba?athists, jihadists, unreconstructed Saddam-loyalists, America-haters. But what are we fighting for?

?Freedom,? comes the retort, ?democracy.? But Iraq is already free of Saddam. And what do we mean by democracy? If it means one-man, one-vote majority rule, Iraq will be governed by a Shi?ite majority that looks to Iran for inspiration and guidance.

Is that worth $87 billion and a daily toll of American dead?

Some of us would settle for an Iraq free of nuclear, chemical, and biological weapons, where no attack on America is planned and no terror plot by al-Qaeda is tolerated. But it now appears?after four months of inspections by a 1,400-man Anglo-American team?that that is what we had under Saddam Hussein.

What the enemy is fighting for seems far less gauzy. His goal: expel the Americans from Iraq. If we cannot define victory, our enemy can. And it is a sobering thought that no Arab or Islamic revolution that fought hard to expel a Western power has been defeated in 60 years.

The French were run out of Algeria after an eight-year war, and the allies they left behind were slaughtered. The Russians were expelled from Afghanistan after an eight-year occupation by an Islamic jihad and nationalist uprising. The Israelis abandoned Lebanon after an 18-year occupation, unwilling to pay the continuing cost in Jewish blood of battling Hezbollah guerrillas.

Moreover, pro-Western monarchs in that part of the world?King Farouk in Egypt in 1952, King Feisel in Iraq in 1958, King Idris in Libya in 1968, Emperor Haile Selassie in Ethiopia in 1975, the Shah of Iran in 1979?have all been overthrown in anti-Western coups.

Thus, while there are many models for how a Western power can be driven out of an Arab country, or a Western vassal overthrown, where is the model for an enduring Western victory in the Arab and Islamic world?in the last 50 years?

Kuwait, 1991, appears the best example. What were the elements of the triumph of Bush I in Desert Storm? First, his goal was to liberate an Arab nation, Kuwait, from an invading power. Second, he had the support of almost all Arab regimes. Arab troops from Saudi Arabia, Egypt, and Syria even fought alongside Americans. Yet, even then, the ?Arab Street? seemed to side with Saddam. In this new war, however, Bush II suffers drawbacks his father did not.

First, America has never been so widely hated in the Arab world.

Second, the U.S. war on Iraq is seen in the Islamic world as a war of aggression waged on falsified charges that Saddam?s Iraq had weapons of mass destruction and played a role in Sept. 11.

Third, where the U.S. was on the offensive in Desert Storm and in Operation Iraqi Freedom, we are now on the defensive. It is we who are the occupying power. Ours is the detested presence in an Arab capital.

Moreover, the tactics being used by the enemy are the same tactics used against the French in Algeria and the Israelis on the West Bank. Assassinate collaborators with terror attacks, such as on the UN headquarters and Jordanian embassy. Sting and infuriate the occupier by killing his soldiers, provoking him into lashing out and wounding and killing non-combatants, or even allies, like the Iraqi police in Fallujah. Thus, radicalize the people and polarize the nation between collaborators who side with the Americans and patriots and nationalists who gravitate to the resistance. Thus do we convert a terror war into a guerrilla war into a people?s war. And down that long bloody road lies victory: the expulsion of the Americans and a regime of their own choosing.

It is the formula used by anti-colonial and anti-imperial movements from the Irish in 1919-1921, to the Irgun in Palestine, to the Mau Mau in Kenya, to the FALN in Algeria, to ZANU and ZAPU in Rhodesia, to the ANC in South Africa, to Hezbollah in Lebanon, to Hamas on the West Bank. The only way such movements have been defeated?in Puerto Rico in the 1950s and El Salvador in the 1980s?was when the Western power was able enlist nationalism on its side.

In Iraq, we have not yet done that. Indeed, we appear to be losing the battle for hearts and minds. Nonetheless, to quote Dean Rusk, ?We are there and we are committed.?






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