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Re: Wanna Step Up Your Game? Come Grow Along With Bodhisatta! Spore Swab to Spore Swab [Re: Edmunter]
    #19866584 - 04/18/14 05:13 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

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Hey boys,

not to break up the pissing contest
between growing a lot of mushrooms in
one big space

or a lot of mushrooms
in a bunch of tiny spaces...

but this is KSSS plate B inoculated by
agar wedge 4/9

to shake or not to shake?







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I made a batch of dishes up 2 weeks ago when I started.  Half I used for the initial germination and half for now.  I have just transferred 8 wedges from Thai cubes and 3 from Psilocybe cyans.  Both mycs where non-defined and chaotic, is this normal?

The agar is almost solid.  Am I close to getting this right?

How long before I should see growth and then how long b4 transfer.

I understand the string length theory but roughly.





Fat chance......





God you boys really are annoying sometimes.
Thanks for quoting me and totally
ignoring my question!





Nope.  I quoted u cause they were ignoring me too





I know nothing about pan cyans.  sorry.

they really are beating this v-tek thing
to death huh:tongue2:


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Re: Wanna Step Up Your Game? Come Grow Along With Bodhisatta! Spore Swab to Spore Swab [Re: TheApprentice]
    #19866599 - 04/18/14 05:15 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

:lol:Fucking v-tek:mad2:


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Re: Wanna Step Up Your Game? Come Grow Along With Bodhisatta! Spore Swab to Spore Swab [Re: Edmunter]
    #19866606 - 04/18/14 05:16 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

yea spore plates will be chaotic.
i don't know what u mean by ur agar is solid and are u getting this right?  yes it should be solid.

spore germination on agar is like 5 days for me.  i transfer right away.  then second plate i transfer almost right away too.  in case any con tams there

i don't know what string length theory is.  u mean like in physics?  that string theory?

apprentice i would shake now, but its growers preference.

sorry didn't mean to ignore


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Re: Wanna Step Up Your Game? Come Grow Along With Bodhisatta! Spore Swab to Spore Swab [Re: MudaFuka]
    #19866610 - 04/18/14 05:17 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

IMO with those being pans you could shake now and be alright. But if the culture is not stalled then you could just let it go a bit longer and see quicker overall colonization in the end.

I have a pp5 of cyan right now that I have not shook at all, just about to finish.


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Re: Wanna Step Up Your Game? Come Grow Along With Bodhisatta! Spore Swab to Spore Swab [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #19866635 - 04/18/14 05:21 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

I have 3 PP5s of pan cyan that have been colonising since march 21st. They are ready to spawn finally but dam these things moved slowly.


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Re: Wanna Step Up Your Game? Come Grow Along With Bodhisatta! Spore Swab to Spore Swab [Re: MudaFuka]
    #19866646 - 04/18/14 05:22 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

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I'd give it a little more time. I usually don't shake until at least 25%




:whathesaid:  Give it another day or two and give'r.


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Re: Wanna Step Up Your Game? Come Grow Along With Bodhisatta! Spore Swab to Spore Swab [Re: MudaFuka]
    #19866649 - 04/18/14 05:22 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

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I have 3 PP5s of pan cyan that have been colonising since march 21st. They are ready to spawn finally but dam these things moved slowly.




Really? Most of the pan species I have worked with have been relatively quick :shrug:


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Re: Wanna Step Up Your Game? Come Grow Along With Bodhisatta! Spore Swab to Spore Swab [Re: blindingleaf]
    #19866659 - 04/18/14 05:24 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

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I'd give it a little more time. I usually don't shake until at least 25%




:whathesaid:  Give it another day or two and give'r.




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apprentice i would shake now, but its growers preference.

sorry didn't mean to ignore




lol no issue.

I was kinda just being a troll

i just don't want my master to stall out.
i've had that happen before when I
shook too soon.

it's been a little bit since I've
had a good grow.


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Re: Wanna Step Up Your Game? Come Grow Along With Bodhisatta! Spore Swab to Spore Swab [Re: TheApprentice]
    #19866666 - 04/18/14 05:26 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

i shake as soon as the agar looks dry enough it won't stick to the glass.


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Re: Wanna Step Up Your Game? Come Grow Along With Bodhisatta! Spore Swab to Spore Swab [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #19866687 - 04/18/14 05:29 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

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I have 3 PP5s of pan cyan that have been colonising since march 21st. They are ready to spawn finally but dam these things moved slowly.




Really? Most of the pan species I have worked with have been relatively quick :shrug:



That's what I keep hearing. I think it might be the WBS I used. It has some rather oily seeds in it and nothing really seems to do well on it.


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Re: Wanna Step Up Your Game? Come Grow Along With Bodhisatta! Spore Swab to Spore Swab [Re: TheApprentice]
    #19866699 - 04/18/14 05:32 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

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i just don't want my master to stall out.
i've had that happen before when I
shook too soon.

it's been a little bit since I've
had a good grow.



If your master stalled out after shaking my guess is it was contaminated with bacteria.


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Re: Wanna Step Up Your Game? Come Grow Along With Bodhisatta! Spore Swab to Spore Swab [Re: MudaFuka]
    #19866701 - 04/18/14 05:32 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

I had a reishi culture i shook 4 times, and it did great:shrug:

I had one too many jars of spawn for my grow, so I said, fuck it, shake the shit out of it and see what happens.


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Re: Wanna Step Up Your Game? Come Grow Along With Bodhisatta! Spore Swab to Spore Swab [Re: 1down5up]
    #19866727 - 04/18/14 05:38 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

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i shake as soon as the agar looks dry enough it won't stick to the glass.



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i just don't want my master to stall out.
i've had that happen before when I
shook too soon.

it's been a little bit since I've
had a good grow.



If your master stalled out after shaking my guess is it was contaminated with bacteria.



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I had a reishi culture i shook 4 times, and it did great:shrug:

I had one too many jars of spawn for my grow, so I said, fuck it, shake the shit out of it and see what happens.





Ok, gonna shake it like my avatar!

will update in a few days


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Re: Wanna Step Up Your Game? Come Grow Along With Bodhisatta! Spore Swab to Spore Swab [Re: TheApprentice]
    #19866839 - 04/18/14 06:04 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

:aweshit:


wow lads, busy day. 

i wonder, can anyone tell me what's the best motor oil to put in my motorcycle?  i've heard amsoil is where it's at but it's so expensive.  another guy told me you can use all synthetic oil for diesel engines cause it's approved for wet clutches cause it has no friction modifiers... i just want to use what's best and no one will just tell me what's best and they keep telling me to shut up.



anyhoo, my bulk bricks are teasing with unimpressive looking second flushes.  just realized i owe some pics, have to get back to that.

my pan cakes, just one has hit 100%, another is close, and two others still have a bit to go.  gonna prep some sub tonight to spawn over the weekend.  i'd like to agree that they seem to move slower than i'd heard they do. 

<tl;dr>
my real question is, do folks typically treat pans like cubes when it comes to isolating strains or is multispore generally more the way to go?


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Re: Wanna Step Up Your Game? Come Grow Along With Bodhisatta! Spore Swab to Spore Swab [Re: J. Jack Flash]
    #19866960 - 04/18/14 06:27 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

I use yamalube in my Fazer.  It's what came in it, so it's what i use:shrug:

What kind of bike?  I know the ones that get real hot can sometimes use diff types...


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Re: Wanna Step Up Your Game? Come Grow Along With Bodhisatta! Spore Swab to Spore Swab [Re: 1down5up]
    #19867802 - 04/18/14 08:58 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

sorry bruv, my sarcasm didn't ring very loudly.  register at high traffic motorcycle forum, login, first post... what's the best oil?

it's awesome.


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Re: Wanna Step Up Your Game? Come Grow Along With Bodhisatta! Spore Swab to Spore Swab [Re: TheApprentice]
    #19867993 - 04/18/14 09:41 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

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24 of them fit on one mini martha rack.  10 will yield ~7 ounces.  I was going to get the 6qt shoeboxes for my gh but pp5's are roughly the same price if you factor in the many potential uses.  pp5's also do not need the 2 week recolonization period, so one could factor that in the multiple flushing schedule.  With all that said, don't matter how ya grow if it works for you.



it's more like a 7-10 day recolonization and the pp5 cup tek want's a longer "consolidation" period than that anyway. :shrug:
Violet would let her RGS or BR consolidate before casing for longer than it takes spawn to recolonize anyway and I would rather have my grains consolidate while they're eating extra water as to skip the time needed to flush all the fruits. 2 flushes with yield vs 5+ for yield.

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I like the convenience of one tub, as opposed to cleaning and prepping multiple containers.  the little pp5 cups are the equivalent to doing brf cakes imho, a lot of extra work, but like you said, everyone has their own way of doing and enjoying things, that's what makes this such a colorful community.



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yea dude, im not trying to criticize the way u grow.  i don't advocate any special style of growing, i just advocate that people grow :lol:
and yea i know the 24 hr notice thing.  doesn't always work that way.  its also a little incriminating when u say don't come up when thy knowing on ur door.  monos i can quickly put into my closet in 1-2 minutes.  martha full of pp5's, no.  if u say u can dis assemble urs in minutes, i don't doubt u, i just know i woulnt be able to do that.  i also work two jobs, and pp5's are a bit much maintenance for me.  i have tried them, just wasn't my cup of shrooms.




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to shake or not to shake?






yea or wait a few days,

I would wait on those ones a day or two


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Re: Wanna Step Up Your Game? Come Grow Along With Bodhisatta! Spore Swab to Spore Swab [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #19868050 - 04/18/14 09:50 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

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yea spore plates will be chaotic.
i don't know what u mean by ur agar is solid and are u getting this right?  yes it should be solid.

spore germination on agar is like 5 days for me.  i transfer right away.  then second plate i transfer almost right away too.  in case any con tams there

i don't know what string length theory is.  u mean like in physics?  that string theory?

apprentice i would shake now, but its growers preference.

sorry didn't mean to ignore



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I have 3 PP5s of pan cyan that have been colonising since march 21st. They are ready to spawn finally but dam these things moved slowly.




Really? Most of the pan species I have worked with have been relatively quick :shrug:



mine have been slow :shrug: beats me I hear it both ways probably just the cultures.


sorry for the double post it was just easier to split up with so many replies.


Anyway. Like em or hate them my opinion on PP5 cup TEK V-tek a-tek or cased grains in cups

Violet wants the cups to consolidate just like PF cakes after 100%
Bulk sub takes some time to re-colonize

Same time taken here but likely bulk sub colonizes faster than the minimum recommended consolidation time, All the while the bulk sub colonizes it's also eating the grain more (hence consolidation while it recolonizes) so I would rather have water given during the consolidation period.

then you have these little cups when I could just prep one big cup.

Coir is cheap, BE is a dumb measure of productivity and efficiency no matter how you misconstrue it. If you don't understand that then :shrug: do some grows both way and see which one you end up keeping around.

Like I just said two flushes vs 5+ flushes for yield.

If I ever did pp5 cups again I would just colonize grain spawn then pour it into pp5 cups with a bulk substrate in open air so the pp5 cup never gets pressure cooked they colonize in the pp5 cup and then get a casing. :shrug: mini bulk substrate more of a novetly, even with the improvement it still is just a small ass bulk substrate grow. without the improvement it's just cased grains, obviously the BE would be higher since you're using only grains only high nutrition substrate (violet left the casing layer out of her BE calculations too :facepalm:) but we don't add bulk substrate because we care about BE obviously BE goes down but we get more yield per effort and money so that slightly lowered BE is made up for by a really cheap easy bulk substrate.


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Re: Wanna Step Up Your Game? Come Grow Along With Bodhisatta! Spore Swab to Spore Swab [Re: bodhisatta]
    #19868306 - 04/18/14 10:37 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

my pans are also on the slow side as well, maybe just from wild prints:shrug:


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Re: Wanna Step Up Your Game? Come Grow Along With Bodhisatta! Spore Swab to Spore Swab [Re: bodhisatta]
    #19868912 - 04/19/14 01:17 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

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Anyway. Like em or hate them my opinion on PP5 cup TEK V-tek a-tek or cased grains in cups.




You are indeed entitled to that opinion.  My main point here is to call A-tek only a novelty grow is an extreme understatement.
Take the same culture.  Fill up a closet of identical size with bulk and A-tek.  Let both spaces flush out till they are spent.  My money 100% is on the A-tek closet that it will produces higher yields than the bulk closet.


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