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starving pedro
    #1985735 - 10/07/03 02:21 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I read on lycaeum that if you starve your san pedro of light and water it'll be more potent over time. Although it doesn't say how much.
Now, I have been starving mine for about 4 months, no water, no sun. Does anyone have any knowledge on how much more potent it might have become? I just don't want it to have become super potent without me knowing it. This could definitely cause some baaad coming up anxiety, and it might be justified...  :nut: 


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Re: starving pedro [Re: starfungi]
    #1985748 - 10/07/03 02:23 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

ive heard this to, but i dought its based on any kind of fact.

feed ur cacti well, treat it well and it shall do the same unto u. dont grow it as a drug hehe, talk to it .. its ur friend :smile:

nothing shows potency like love from the cartaker imo , mass attention


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Re: starving pedro [Re: LCid]
    #1986907 - 10/07/03 03:33 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Your absolutely right LCid!

The only truth behind the stressing it makes it more potent is the fact that not watering it makes the cactus lose water. When it loses water it is less heavy, making it more potent by weight.


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Re: starving pedro [Re: CockyMandrill]
    #1987439 - 10/07/03 06:31 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

what i read was that it will produce more mescaline when the conditions are harsher, ie no light or water.
but i do feel quite bad now for how i've been treating it... uhhh.


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Re: starving pedro [Re: starfungi]
    #1987640 - 10/07/03 07:39 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

yeah, my perviuan is more like a friend to me than a plant that i'll eat when it gets big enough. I don't think i'll be able to chop it up when the time comes.


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Re: starving pedro [Re: starfungi]
    #1987852 - 10/07/03 08:49 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Thats a myth. Starving doesnt help anything. It certainly shouldnt be over watered, its a cactus for god's sake, but starving is pointless.


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Re: starving pedro [Re: HarveyWalbanger]
    #1988703 - 10/08/03 01:08 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I haven't done extensive research on it, but I have always heard that keeping it in the dark will increase the mescaline percentage...

I don't know how much but that it triggers the catus into making up a defense of mescaline ... it could be myth...or not...

I agree with treating it well... but I am thinking of trying some tests on it soon...2 catuses in the dark and 2 in the sun... extract it into a pure chemical to see what's the results are..


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Re: starving pedro [Re: ]
    #1989346 - 10/08/03 07:42 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Id love to see your results zerohero, but personally I think the thing about stressing the cactus was someones hypothesis that someone else took too seriously.


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Re: starving pedro [Re: CockyMandrill]
    #1989878 - 10/08/03 01:39 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Do you think that maybe the mescaline is a defense mechanism to invading insects? I read that somewhere. If that were true occasionally poking it with a safety pin might help. My friend had a Peruvian Torch. When he got it it was green. He would poke it every now and then. Within a week it turned blue. He does this once a week or so. Is this unnecessary.



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Re: starving pedro [Re: ]
    #1990870 - 10/08/03 07:42 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Ion says the mescaline is most likely a nitrogen burn defense mechanism. I've never heard about the dark helping, ask nan's nook.


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Re: starving pedro [Re: HarveyWalbanger]
    #1991307 - 10/08/03 10:25 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

i thought mushrooms were supposed to turn blue.


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Re: starving pedro [Re: felixhigh]
    #1991367 - 10/08/03 10:46 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I think that your pedros will make you happier if you give them lots of bright natural light some heat and water every three weeks with alternate waterings of clear and half strenght organic fertilizer. they will grow faster and thicker this way which is what you want. dont torture your cactus give it love and it will love you. if you want to up potency look up the posts on doping your pedro with mescaline precursors


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Re: starving pedro [Re: azurescen]
    #1992874 - 10/09/03 11:53 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Is bone meal an acceptable organic fertilizer?


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Re: starving pedro [Re: mr_minds_eye]
    #1993127 - 10/09/03 01:50 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

bone meal will give some higher Phosphorous levels, but mixing in a dash of blood meal with the soil is good.


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Re: starving pedro [Re: neuro]
    #1994344 - 10/09/03 07:19 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Hi. I think taking good care of my San Pedro's is best, however I came into a windfall of terribly stressed cacti. Cuttings had lain on the floor under the grafting table for 2 years. Compared to the cacti grown under beneficial conditions the abused ones were awesome. Doses were measured in inches not weight.


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Re: starving pedro [Re: gardentoad]
    #1996357 - 10/10/03 09:26 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah, the abused cacti can make you trip just looking at them sometimes. My experience. I have looked at abused Trichos and literally seen them twisting under their skin. I consider the mescaline like a plant nerve network. When the nerves are suffering then the mescaline sort of creeps around and gets stirred up. But don't be cruel. How can you trip off something you punished!


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