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Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds 8
#19842786 - 04/14/14 11:08 AM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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After talking to a few people about it, it has been suggested that I start a thread about how to construct decorative mulch beds spawned with various saprobic species, since there isn't a lot of info here on how to do them. These should work with all wood-loving actives, gourmet edibles, and medicinals.
I'll start off with the basic prep. Beds can be spawned directly with sawdust or straw spawn, but I believe that it's better to pre-colonize the same wood chips you'll be using in your beds. Begin by locating a good source of fresh, clean wood chips. I get mine from my local hardwood sawmill, so they are a mix of whatever hardwoods they're cutting. Usually various oaks, ash, poplars, walnut, hickory, etc. I also get my sawdust from them. I usually call to see what they are cutting at the time so the sawdust is fresh out of the spout off the saw. You don't really need the sawdust for these outdoor beds, but I used it in most of mine. I will show a couple different ways to build your beds below.
Next step is to soak your wood chips in water for at least 24 hrs.

I didn't take picks of the next step, but it's real easy. Lay a tarp down on a sloped hill or driveway, then dump out your wood chips at the top of the tarp and let them drain for a few minutes. Use this time to bust up your spawn (sawdust, wood chip, straw, grain, etc) and get your containers cleaned and ready.
  
All these totes, buckets, bags, and flower pots were pre-colonized with Pearl Oyster, King Oyster, and King Stropharia to be used in my outdoor beds.
 
Now that your wood chips have pre-colonized, it's time to build your beds! This is how I built my first bed. Lay cardboard down to prevent weeds growing up in your beds. Next lay down a thick layer (3-4 inches) of fresh clean sawdust (dry). Level it out, but make sure to leave it fluffy. In this bed I used cardboard dividers to separate the different species, then laid in my colonized chips, spreading them out evenly and pushed the spawn down into the sawdust. Then I covered the beds with fresh wood chips and thoroughly watered the bed.
     
This second bed was done basically the same way, only I spawned a three of the plots directly with partially contaminated sawdust blocks (Reishi, Shiitake, and Enoki). Two of the plots were spawned with Pearl Oyster chips. I also used bricks instead of cardboard to divide the plots, since this bed is more visible than the other.
            
I ran out of sawdust after the second bed so the third is just cardboard, King Oyster wood chip spawn, and fresh wood chip.
   
This next bed is where I have been dumping contaminated substrates for months, and leaves. This area is mostly going to be a natural composting area, so if I get any mushrooms or not I'm only looking for the various species to help break down landscaping waste. The tubes are an experiment in colonizes synthetic "logs" of sawdust, but they contaminated on my. They are Reishi, Beech, Turkey Tail, and King Stropharia, and I am using them to spawn 1/3 of the total length of the bed. I have King Stropharia and Pearl Oyster chips colonizing now for the other 2/3. Laid the spawn done, then covered them with leaves and other landscaping waste.
           
And that's it, simple as that! Depending on you local rainy season, and when you build your beds, make sure to keep your beds watered when needed. Also, make sure to build them in shaded areas out of direct sunlight. These are the first beds I've made and will post updates as they progress.
5-5-14 Update:
So here's an update on my outdoor beds. The most colonized beds are in this order: Shiitake, King Stropharia, Pearl Oyster, Nameko, King Oyster.
        
5-6-14 Update:
After seeing how the mycelium in my beds are colonizing, I decided that mixing spawn (instead of layering) is best for all substrates. Raked all the chips and sawdust in together in each separate bed to re-disperse the mycelium and to evenly distribute the two substrates. Finished them off with some burlap sacks to act as a casing layer. Suppose to have some good warm days this week, so I'll post updates soon.
      
Edited by ghiajake (05/06/14 06:45 PM)
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: ghiajake]
#19842898 - 04/14/14 11:29 AM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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Staying tuned...
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: OH1Ogrown]
#19842920 - 04/14/14 11:33 AM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: ghiajake]
#19843070 - 04/14/14 12:07 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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Great job ghiajake, your going to get so many Ty's, well deserved too!
So Ty, for everything ghia!
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: Imperfect Iam]
#19843079 - 04/14/14 12:10 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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Awesome. I want to do this when I move farther up north! Whether in NorCal or the land of ice and snow.
I want a cyanscens patch so bad haha 
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: ghiajake]
#19843225 - 04/14/14 12:31 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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great write up. Can't wait until you see fruits!
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: Imperfect Iam]
#19843362 - 04/14/14 01:00 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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Imperfect Iam said: Great job ghiajake, your going to get so many Ty's, well deserved too!
Don't thank me too much, I haven't gotten any mushrooms yet. 
Just got done doing another misc contaminated substrate mushroom bed. Posting it as an update to the OP.
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: ghiajake]
#19843412 - 04/14/14 01:09 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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LMAO, you know there coming my friend!
BTW, will you be planting medical MJ into those plots? It would accent them beautifully!
Free food and medicine, FUCK, you are all over this one ghia!
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: Imperfect Iam]
#19843461 - 04/14/14 01:19 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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Updated OP with the newest bed.
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Imperfect Iam said: BTW, will you be planting medical MJ into those plots? It would accent them beautifully!
I would if it were legal here, but alas it is not. I am in the city, and will be using the whole garden (see garden link in sig) as a public educational model, so no MJ. Bet your ass I would if I could get away with it.
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: ghiajake]
#19843466 - 04/14/14 01:20 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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Great post, I've been trying to plan out something like this so this is awesome!
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: ghiajake]
#19843600 - 04/14/14 01:48 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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The new ones look even better!
I know, about the medical MJ, it's ridiculous, but it's the law as of now where I live also, so no go with me either:(
And yeah, I know we would both be all over it if it was, but you are doing a great job for the community, and educating people as you go. This couldn't get much better, with the exception of the highly illegal, but oh so beautiful cannabis plant!
Oh wait a minute GHIA, there is a phone call for you on line 1, he says it's a MR. PAUL STAMETS?
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: Imperfect Iam]
#19843870 - 04/14/14 02:35 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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 thanks man!
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: blindingleaf]
#19846499 - 04/14/14 10:36 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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Great write up. Thanks for taking the time to do it all nice and pic-heavy!
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: Forrester]
#19846705 - 04/14/14 11:32 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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Thanks for the write up! Definitely some good info.
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: GreenGills]
#19847410 - 04/15/14 06:18 AM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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my friend and i are gonna use this tek for blewits and reishi very soon, will post pics for advice.
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: blindingleaf] 1
#19847456 - 04/15/14 06:40 AM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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Very nice write up!
Will be doing this in my own yard very soon!
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: TheApprentice]
#19847540 - 04/15/14 07:37 AM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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Have thought about planting plants in the beds to create a better microclimate?
Nice writeup man!
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: blindingleaf]
#19847867 - 04/15/14 10:02 AM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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blindingleaf said: my friend and i are gonna use this tek for blewits and reishi very soon, will post pics for advice.
Awesome, please do.
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: ghiajake]
#19847874 - 04/15/14 10:06 AM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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And thanks everyone for the compliments. I'm using this as my "Shroomery thesis" to hopefully attain "trusted cultivator" status based on my outdoor landscaping projects. May take a while, but I'm a patient man. If y'all like the thread, feel free to comment in my ratings section as well.
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: ghiajake]
#19941115 - 05/04/14 04:56 PM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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Awesome, I've set reminders!
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: TriggA]
#19946324 - 05/05/14 08:38 PM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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Updated OP.
Edited by ghiajake (05/06/14 06:40 PM)
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: ghiajake]
#19946570 - 05/05/14 09:31 PM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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Looking awesome brother.
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: OH1Ogrown]
#19946653 - 05/05/14 09:49 PM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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how have u been dealing with pests? like squirrels and garden gnomes?
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: blindingleaf]
#19948618 - 05/06/14 09:00 AM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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They haven't messed with them at all yet. I'm thinking my leprechauns are sharing their luck with me.
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: ghiajake]
#19948625 - 05/06/14 09:02 AM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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may you be alive at the end of the world, laddy
i wonder if leprechauns and garden gnomes have some kinda of mycorhyzal relationship
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: blindingleaf]
#19948636 - 05/06/14 09:05 AM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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blindingleaf said: may you be alive at the end of the world, laddy
i wonder if leprechauns and garden gnomes have some kinda of mycorhyzal relationship 
I was born to be hear at the End of the World (as we know it)! And that is a very interesting idea. Where's Alan?
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: ghiajake]
#19950140 - 05/06/14 04:30 PM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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Nice work bro
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: Viridis420]
#19950655 - 05/06/14 06:27 PM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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Updated OP.
Edited by ghiajake (05/06/14 06:42 PM)
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: ghiajake]
#19951005 - 05/06/14 07:41 PM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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Nice write up, are you topping the burlap with any soil or leaving burlap as the casing layer?
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Leaving the burlap as a removable casing. I will be using these beds to mine spawn, so I will need to be able to add and remove chips as needed.
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: ghiajake]
#19951327 - 05/06/14 08:52 PM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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Will you be removing the burlap to fruit? Is there any chance the mycelium will colonize it?
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: OH1Ogrown]
#19951361 - 05/06/14 09:01 PM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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Looking tight jake, gotta say I am super jelly of you guys that have a climate that allows for outdoor grows. Fuck it snowed all weekend and today 
Can't wait to see those beds produce
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: Pastywhyte]
#19951447 - 05/06/14 09:18 PM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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OH1Ogrown said: Will you be removing the burlap to fruit? Is there any chance the mycelium will colonize it?
Yes, most-definitely the myc will colonize (and fruit through) the burlap. I am going to being using these beds to mine sapwn from, so I will have to be able to add and remove chips as needed. The bags are to act as a removable casing layer so that the substrate underneath doesn't dry out as quick.
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Can't wait to see those beds produce

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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: ghiajake]
#19951574 - 05/06/14 09:44 PM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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i am most excited about outdoor reishi!! and garden giant. i saw stamets speak last fri and he has some CRAZY pics of Stropharia's in bioremediation/fermenting wood chip tanks. I've also never seen an outdoor reishi that wasn't already attached to a tree
how do u cook those (garden giants)? they seem so big. do u do like a portabella burger or is it still tender enough to mess with it otherwise when it gets that big?
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: blindingleaf]
#19951641 - 05/06/14 09:56 PM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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love it! mine is gonna be a quiet bed till it warms up, all actives though...i'm a junkie
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: cronicr]
#19951662 - 05/06/14 10:00 PM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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That's the great thing about doing beds this way, great for any wood-decomposing fungi.
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: ghiajake]
#19951675 - 05/06/14 10:02 PM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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ghiajake said: That's the great thing about doing beds this way, great for any wood-decomposing fungi. 
exactly! i'm going for a double whammy setting of having cubes/pans fruit first then planting my woodlovers down for fall
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: cronicr] 1
#19952026 - 05/06/14 11:14 PM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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Moved some of my colonizing wood chips indoors to help speed things up. Transferred the chips from pots and totes to burlap sacks. 5 sacks of Pearl Oyster (chips aren't that colonized), and 3 sacks of King Stropharia (colonizing well).
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: ghiajake]
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: Asura]
#19952266 - 05/07/14 12:01 AM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'm surprised ur shiitaki is outrunning the others!! where is the culture from?
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: blindingleaf]
#19952459 - 05/07/14 12:41 AM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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Not sure, but it is S75 culture. I think it's because the Shiitake sawdust spawn supplemented with 20% bran, and/or because the Shiitake doesn't mind cooler temps.
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: ghiajake]
#19952548 - 05/07/14 01:14 AM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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Wow, this makes me really want to start an outdoor bed!
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: ferris_wheel]
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Do it!
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: ghiajake]
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Nice write up dude! I bet it takes a lot of effort to get that much SPAWN!!!
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: bongjuice420]
#19954564 - 05/07/14 03:23 PM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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^^^ i know right? and a fuckin garage too he has an unfair advantage in that he has enslaved garden gnomes as his help. garden gnomes are nearly extinct in the city, maybe some pockets still survive, but not in my area.
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: blindingleaf]
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Actually, all of the chip spawn was colonized on a shelf in my laundry room. Except for the Shiitake, Enoki, and Reishi beds, which were spawned with contaminated sawdust blocks. And btw, they are leprechauns not gnomes. I found their gold and stole it! I told them if they work for me, I'll pay them back with a piece of their own gold each week.
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: ghiajake]
#19955063 - 05/07/14 05:33 PM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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Post is getting better and better Ghia! I can't wait to see these produce!
Damn, I want me some leprechauns, tricky little bastards they are thought, I found the end of a rainbow once, actually it just kind of appeared, on the hood of a car, they must've known I was trailing them and getting close, so they set up a hologram to make me think it was all a lie, tricky little bastards!
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: Imperfect Iam]
#19996765 - 05/16/14 09:38 AM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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In for the study...
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: The Lightning]
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: moricz]
#20073411 - 06/02/14 11:53 AM (9 years, 7 months ago) |
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So I tried this and critters dug up the whole plot..
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: ghiajake]
#20217443 - 07/02/14 11:58 PM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hi Jake. How are those beds doing?
I made my first one yesterday. King oyster. Made from a contaminated grow with woodchips and straw. Covered it with an additional 2-3 inch layer of woodchips.
One question: Should I cover the bed with a layer of leaves or something else? I see you used some burlap?
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: PurpleHead]
#20217452 - 07/03/14 12:00 AM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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hows everything going jake?
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: cronicr]
#20217462 - 07/03/14 12:04 AM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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i was wondering too dude!! you getting ready for telluride now?
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: blindingleaf]
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Just posting to see how this turns out I would like to try this one day
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: aykaye47]
#20217588 - 07/03/14 12:43 AM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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Glad to see people starting to respond to this important post again!
My outdoor reishi bed is getting some fruits, but I'm thinking instead of chopping up the spent substrates, bury them, as you had later said I do beleive.
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: Imperfect Iam]
#20218605 - 07/03/14 08:54 AM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hey guys! Some of the beds are chugging along, and some died off. In hindsight, as I may have mentioned before, eliminate the sawdust from the process. It holds too much moisture, and I've found it decomposes into soil too quickly. Compacts the beds too much. Haven't gotten any fruits yet, but most of the cultures I used are fall fruiters. I did mine quit a bit of spawn from the two best colonizing beds to make another bed, and to give 8 lb spawn each to a friend in MI.
ayakaye - No time better than the present! If you don't have the land, then build them in flower pots.
BL - Telluride is still over a month away. Not packing yet. I'm still trying to find a ride out there, but I'm working on my Ghia to get it ready in case I have to drive it.
drawde - I haven't had critters, but you could bury chicken wire under the top layer of mulch to keep critters from digging.
Iam - I think you're right on the burying Reishi. The only other option I think might be to pre-colonize wood chips in filter-patch bags. I'm thinking busting up the sawdust spawn damages the network too much for it to recover. If you use chips in bags, when you bust it up to spawn the bed each chip will still have a healthy colony.
Purple - The burlap sacks held in too much moisture. I removed them when I notice mold growing on the bottom of the sacks. I'm sure the large amount of sawdust I used in the beds was more the reason for this than the burlap though. Next time I'll not use the sawdust, and maybe split the burlap sacks so they are only one layer thick. I would say it depends on how much water your bed is going to get. I built most of my mother beds in the dripline from my roof (no gutters) and we've had a LOT of rain. If you bed is built where it gets a lot of natural watering, then I wouldn't cover it with leaves. If it doesn't get a lot of water, then cover it with leaves.
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: ghiajake]
#20219118 - 07/03/14 11:32 AM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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So glad this thread got bumped. I'm moving into a spot now that doesn't look like it's been raked in about 2 years. The landlord just went through and cut down various smaller trees (planning on inoculating the healthy stumps) and ran them through a chipper. There are numerous piles of chips laying all throughout the bed (2nd pic). It's probably 10-15' wide, goes up the hill and wraps around the side of the house and gets even wider(1st pic). I'm going to plant a few small japanese maples and ferns in between the older established oak and maples in an attempt to recreate a small forest setting, but in the mean time I hate to let all of these wood chips go to waste. Is there anyway I can noc up a bunch of grain bags and spread them through out all of this wood chip/leaf litter and let it roll? I'd like to let a few different wood loving species colonize through out and establish themselves in the woodland setting, would this be possible if I left some of the nicer fruits to go to spore?. It does get a few hours of late afternoon sun, though I'm hoping the inches of leaves will help shield the colonizing myc. Eventually the japanese maples should get established enough to provide a little more shade. Any strain recommendations and tips for this endeavor?
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: MrGiraffe]
#20219756 - 07/03/14 02:40 PM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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If those chips have been there a while, then they probably already have competing fungi established. Your best course of action would be to spawn with King Stropharia on top of the existing mulch, then covering the spawn with some clean wood chips (or straw) and leaves. Don't use grain spawn, critters will just eat it. Use grain to spawn pasteurized straw, sawdust, or wood chips indoors, then use that to spawn your outdoor bed.
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: ghiajake]
#20220805 - 07/03/14 07:38 PM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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The chips appear to be relatively fresh, judged by the stumps left from the chopped trees that I assumed the chips are from. That, and they are mostly on top of the leaves from the previous fall in about 3 different spots, you're probably right about a competing fungi. I've only noticed one mushroom growing in the area, but there's plenty of moss so I know there's more that I havent seen or have yet to fruit. I hadn't even considered the critters eating up the grain, that'd be a waste. I did rethink it on a return trip back to the house and thought maybe I'll just use grain spawn to noc a few 5 gallon buckets of a wood chip/sawdust mixture, mainly because I remembered that was how you did your outdoor beds. I currently have pink oyster and reishi on agar, so maybe I'll use those to make up some dowels for the stumps while I wait to get a stro culture and chips ready for the bed, I think it's going to take quite a bit of spawn for the amount I'm trying to do. If I leave some fruits to go to spore, what are the odds that I can establish any of these species in my yard? Thanks for the insight Jake.
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: ghiajake]
#20313356 - 07/22/14 09:47 PM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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I can't wait till the fall fruiters take off, but even if they don't to well this year, I definately would not feel bad Jake, you got a lot of people trying things outdoors, and besides that, this was your first big go at it too I think?
Nice job no matter what, in my book!
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: Imperfect Iam]
#20398640 - 08/10/14 08:46 AM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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nothing to add but a thank you. I need this for future reference! Thanks!
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: Haywire]
#20398965 - 08/10/14 11:10 AM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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wow, that is going to be incredible when the time is right! nice work.
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: eatyualive]
#20444379 - 08/19/14 07:00 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: TheApprentice]
#20453107 - 08/21/14 09:02 AM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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Still waiting on this wacky Indiana weather to decide what its gonna do. Just got back from Telluride and haven't checked on the beds. I did have a couple conversations about outdoor beds while I was there. Jordan Weiss showed me a list of the best ones to use in beds when I was partying at the Aloha Medicinals house, but I admit I was a little drunk on ganoderma tequila.
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: ghiajake]
#20458983 - 08/22/14 12:08 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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I just put out a 6lb bag of blue oyster grain spawn last week. It had a bacterial contamination, which I think it over took, but I wasn't about to waste time spawning it to straw with it being suspect. So I just dumped it out into a pile of leaves and wood chips that have been sitting out for a couple of months. Then I put cardboard over it and put bricks on top to keep animals from getting to the grain. I just peaked under the cardboard and the 2' x 3' section is bright white and covered in myc. It's in the middle of the big bed of wood chips I posted about earlier in this same thread. Now that it's getting established, what are the odds that it continues to spread out from under the cardboard and further into the surrounding wood chips/leaves? How long will it run before it decides to fruit? I'm covering everything in spawn next spring, I want to go hunting in my own yard lol.
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: MrGiraffe]
#20459144 - 08/22/14 12:35 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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MrGiraffe said: Now that it's getting established, what are the odds that it continues to spread out from under the cardboard and further into the surrounding wood chips/leaves? How long will it run before it decides to fruit? I'm covering everything in spawn next spring, I want to go hunting in my own yard lol.
Odds are pretty high it will continue to colonize any substrate it can reach. I'd get a bunch of new wood chips, soak them for 24 hrs, then spread them out over the mycelium after draining the liquid off. They'll fruit when they fruit... The colony needs to be well established before you'll get any fruits, so if you don't disturb it much adding chips to it you might get some this fall. Depends on the fruiting temps.
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: ghiajake]
#20459197 - 08/22/14 12:43 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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Well where I'm at is in for a spell of upper 70s-lower 80s until the end of the month, and the blues fruiting range are 50-70 from what I've read. Hopefully I can get it to run as far as possible between now and the cool fall rains. There isn't any separation between the little patch and any of the surrounding leaf/wood chip litter, so maybe it'll run out from under the cardboard and keep on trucking. It's a pretty fast isolate I got from a member here on the shroomery. I plan on harvesting as well as leaving some go to spore, hopefully it can get established in the yard's ecosystem. Also just crumbled up 2 spent sawdust blocks of pink oyster and I've got a few reishi blocks I'll be burying soon. I hope they all take over the yard. How are your beds coming along?
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: ghiajake]
#20739917 - 10/22/14 07:36 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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it's Oct. 22nd.....I got one mushroom from my one bed, and thats it, from the bottom of a slice of trunk I had sitting in the middle of the bed. How did yours do? you went mad crazy with tons of work and beds didn't you? the good thing is, with SRA, the mycelium is still there and very visible and strong. so covering with large wood chips/etc will still make it viable for next year and years after as long as you keep adding the large woodchips I think. Just curious if you got anything.
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: RandomFX]
#20775613 - 10/31/14 01:58 AM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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My Shiitake, Reishi, and King Stropharia beds died out (pill bugs). My Pearl and King Oyster beds are hanging on, but the 3x P. allenii beds are thriving. Fully colonized, but no fruit as of yet. They've actually colonized out beyond the borders of the beds and into the mulched yard. I also have various patches of colonized mulch all over my yard, but they could be anything.
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: ghiajake] 1
#20777265 - 10/31/14 02:03 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm so fucking giddy right now!!! Went outside to mine some P. allenii spawn from one of my mother beds and found these guys!!!! First pins, from a first year bed!!! I put the clump back out in the bed after photoing, should still mature.

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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: ghiajake]
#20781077 - 11/01/14 05:33 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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Checked my allenii bed again today and found a BUNCH of pins. The other two beds were covered in leaves so I blew them out with the leaf blower to see if they were pinning too. Not yet.
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#20784107 - 11/02/14 01:15 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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Here's your allenii porn!
            
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: ghiajake]
#20784143 - 11/02/14 01:27 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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awesome!
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: eatyualive]
#20785157 - 11/02/14 06:08 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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Nice dude! Good work.My Allenii are pinning too, together with ovoids!
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I have ovoid going in bags right now. Once they colonize I'll over-winter them in the fridge and spawn a new bed come spring, just like I did with the allenii last winter. I will probably get azure and cyan culture going, and some pseudoaztecorum once I trade you for a print Psylo.
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: ghiajake]
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: ghiajake]
#20791306 - 11/04/14 06:20 AM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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you and I must be in a similar climate, mine are the same way, actually. I was sort of disappointed at first honestly, but had high hopes it'd be better next year, but it looks like they came through in the end and were just waiting for the cold and rainy part to set it.
I guess that doesn't surprise me though because here we can go out and find wild mushrooms this time of year and even past snow fall, on a semi warm day.
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: RandomFX] 2
#20796605 - 11/05/14 12:56 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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So here is my first harvest of P. allenii. The pill-bugs are eating them, so I picked these before they could eat more. Doubt I'll be able to get prints since the bugs eat the caps when they get big enough to print. I am taking a few clones from this cluster though. Picked 84g wet.
 
My natural Pleurotus pulminarius logs (Willow) are fruiting too. Either the slugs or pill bugs are eating them, but I do finally get to clone some of them now. Picked this pin cluster to clone from.
  
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: ghiajake]
#20796681 - 11/05/14 01:15 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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 rocking that outdoor world!!
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: ghiajake]
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: YOmamaPr0] 1
#20801530 - 11/06/14 01:52 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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Just picked another 84 grams.
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: ghiajake]
#20804788 - 11/07/14 07:41 AM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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So great to see all your effort paying off! This has been one of my favorite threads to check in on. Great job and I wish you more success
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: Pineal Crust]
#20804904 - 11/07/14 08:33 AM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: cArcace-x]
#20809328 - 11/08/14 10:05 AM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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I dosed 5 people on them last night, including myself. Me and the GF are in Columbus at a gaming con she goes to every year. Gaming nerds on shrooms for the first time is rarely interesting
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: ghiajake]
#20929905 - 12/04/14 07:50 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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Excellent write-up bro and thorough picture documentation. Thank you for this and I will be following
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: Acquario]
#25001180 - 02/17/18 11:48 AM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Hello everyone. I'm back from my hiatus and ready to start spawning again. Stay tuned to see what I'll be up to this year.
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: ghiajake]
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: ghiajake]
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: Pastywhyte]
#25001228 - 02/17/18 12:10 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: ghiajake]
#25432124 - 09/03/18 02:52 AM (5 years, 4 months ago) |
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So the Ps. cyan spores I had were contaminated with some type of unknown yellowish mold, so no new species beds this year. I have new spores on the way though. I am however doing some work on my remaining allenii bed, which just celebrated its 4th birthday a couple months ago. I haven't added any wood chips since building it, but I've fed it a 12" mat of fallen leaves every year for the past 3 winters. It's turned about half of it all into soil, but there is plenty of colonized hardwood chips still left.
I am doing a treated landscape lumber border, and adding new chips after leveling the bed once down with the border. I wil also be finally installing an electric slug fence around the bed to protect my fruits from slugs. Once the slug fence is installed, I will be making low-profile row cover hoop frames so that come season I can cover them with plastic to hold humidity and protect against frost on the coldest nights. I will be trying to find a semi-transparent blue plastic to cast blue light on the fruiting surface to help stimulate pinning. If I can't find the blue plastic, I might run a string of blue LED rope lights on the inside of the row cover and run it for a few hours a day on a timer.
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: ghiajake] 1
#25436659 - 09/05/18 02:26 AM (5 years, 4 months ago) |
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Here are pics from my refurbished P. allenii bed. I raked the old colonized wood chips (and compost) away from the edges and installed 8' treated landscape timbers. The allenii will eventually eat them too, but it'll take a few years... I filled the gap between the timbers and block foundation with "all purpose" sand to keep slugs and bugs from living in the gap. After installing the timbers, I raked the old wood chips back out flat and compressed them by walking on a sheet tray over the wood chips to distribute my weight more evenly. After watering the old myc thoroughly, I then added around 3" of new fresh hardwood chips on top, mounding to the center of the row. Finally, I thoroughly watered the new chips.
Next, I built the frames for my row covers. I will be installing a drip line down the beds in the next couple weeks, so the row covers will help hold humidity in and give me better control of overall moisture content of the bed and fruits. They will also protect the fruits from being beaten by rain, keeping them much cleaner and less bruised. It will also protect them from frost damage.
The frames are made from 6' wooden slats (10 for $10 at Lowe's), and 9-gauge galvanized steel wire. My bed's inside dimensions are 29.5'Lx21"W, so using a cloth measuring tape I cut the arches at 38". This length was perfect for the right height and enough spring resistance to use retention to keep the frames in place. I used a few screws on the timbers to help lock the frames in place in case of strong winds. To attach the arches to the wood slats, I just drilled holes in each slat (18" spacing) and pushed the arches into the wood slats. Once the temps start to drop I'll finish skinning the covers with plastic, and build removable end caps to help increase CO2 levels for taller fruits. Come season I will also be hanging an outdoor set of blue LED lights from the peak of the row hoops to help stimulate pinning, which will be ran on a timer for a few hours before dawn every morning.
Now, to the part I know you all have been waiting for... The electric slug fence! If you haven't seen these yet, crawl out from under your rock and YouTube that shit. If you have heard of them and have held off on building one, stop waiting and build one ASAP before season! They are the most humane and efficient means of slug/snail control, and by FAR the funniest!
Over the past couple nights since I built it there hasn't been one slime trail on my new chips. If they get trapped on the inside somehow you can easily flip them out of the bed and they won't go back in, hence why I built it early enough that I can get rid of any baby slugs that hatch before season when pinning begins.
After I got all the row cover frames in place (for spacing), I ran the ground wire on the outside of the top of the timbers and the positive on the bed-side of the timbers. Tried to keep the spacing around 3/4"-1", using a staple gun and small hammer to anchor the wire to the wood. If you need more instruction on how to build one, YouTube it. There are many videos, including mine.
           
Here's two vids, one of the bed that explains the fence too, and the second is the fence working and how I built it.
Edited by ghiajake (09/07/18 03:05 AM)
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: ghiajake]
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Dude, that is fucking hardcore. I love it. I hope you do a write up when get some rest.
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Absolutely fabulous work, that slug fencing is a trip!
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: bearcreek]
#25438163 - 09/05/18 05:37 PM (5 years, 4 months ago) |
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Awesome bed dude.
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: Zero Nowhere] 1
#25441676 - 09/07/18 02:44 AM (5 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thanks folks. I edited the post above, so go back and check it out. I'm taking this allenii bed serious now, and will be building all future beds (edible and psily) this way. My goal is to supply allenii prints after this season to spore distributors. I used to supply my P. galindoi to a reputable one, that I'll not name because I don't know if they are still a sponsor or not. I want to build a pole barn next spring, so prints are how I'd like to make the bulk of the funds. With a slug-free "greenhouse" grow I should get PLENTY of good specimens for printing, and my culture has been verified by Alan doing a genetic test on it years ago for me.
Speaking of doing new edible beds...
I've got a few more outdoor bed projects started. First are 3 species, two of which (M. rufobrunnea and H. erinaceus) are 2 year old grain spawn that has been chilling in my culture fridge. The King Stroph culture is that old, but it was revived a few months ago and this spawn is fresh. I sterilized half gallon jars of mixed hardwood chips so that I could see what grows out from the old spawn without it having to compete with anything from the chips. Each chip jar was noc'd with 1 pint of grain spawn. If successful, these jars will spawn one bucket each per two jars of pasteurized chips for more culture expansion.
 
I also did a 3 gallon bucket packed full of boiled wood chips, spawned with 2 quarts of SRA grain spawn. The high spawn rate is because I'll be using this bucket to spawn a mulch path in my yard in a week or so. Within 30 hours the SRA myc had already transferred to the wood.
 
And lastly (for tonight), here is another resurrection project. These two sawdust blocks (M. importuna and M. rufobrunnea) were spawned on Christmas of 2015 and have been in my culture fridge since around Valentine's Day 2016. I decided to try a different prep for the chips this time. My hot water heater pumps out at about 140-145F, so I filled them up with just hot tap water and added 2oz of bleach and a couple drops of Dawn dish soap to each bucket. Used two bricks on top each bucket to hold the chips submerged and to retain some heat longer. Tomorrow after work I'll drain, rinse with hot water, then spawn each bucket with half of a sawdust block (2.5 lbs). If it recovers, these bucket will be expanded and premium beds built before winter.

Edited by ghiajake (09/07/18 02:59 AM)
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: ghiajake] 1
#25441955 - 09/07/18 06:48 AM (5 years, 4 months ago) |
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Couldn't sleep, so I finished off the the morel buckets. The sawdust spawn smelled just fine.
M. rufobrunnea
 
M. importuna
 
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: ghiajake]
#25451184 - 09/10/18 10:40 PM (5 years, 4 months ago) |
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After 5 days of vigorous colonization, I decided to go ahead and spawn these four jars of King Stropharia to the walk path. Only had enough chips left to do the connecting path through my gate, so the bucket of spawn will have to wait for the next truck load of chips.
    
Also checked my allenii bed and the myc has woke up and is running!
Decided to grab some of the new chips that the myc has transferred to and do a tubberware grow to get myc for agar in case the bed doesn't fruit due to the late summer feeding. Then I decided to tap the bed while the temps are low for the next couple days, to hopefully help the myc colonize faster.
 
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: ghiajake]
#25455192 - 09/12/18 03:13 PM (5 years, 4 months ago) |
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Gorgeous outdoor beds man! So much inspiration to get moving on outdoor beds for some allenii and cyan's around my house...
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: ghiajake]
#25468587 - 09/17/18 11:03 PM (5 years, 4 months ago) |
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ghiajake said:
Speaking of doing new edible beds...
I've got a few more outdoor bed projects started. First are 3 species, two of which (M. rufobrunnea and H. erinaceus) are 2 year old grain spawn that has been chilling in my culture fridge. The King Stroph culture is that old, but it was revived a few months ago and this spawn is fresh. I sterilized half gallon jars of mixed hardwood chips so that I could see what grows out from the old spawn without it having to compete with anything from the chips. Each chip jar was noc'd with 1 pint of grain spawn. If successful, these jars will spawn one bucket each per two jars of pasteurized chips for more culture expansion.
 
I also did a 3 gallon bucket packed full of boiled wood chips, spawned with 2 quarts of SRA grain spawn. The high spawn rate is because I'll be using this bucket to spawn a mulch path in my yard in a week or so. Within 30 hours the SRA myc had already transferred to the wood.
 
And lastly (for tonight), here is another resurrection project. These two sawdust blocks (M. importuna and M. rufobrunnea) were spawned on Christmas of 2015 and have been in my culture fridge since around Valentine's Day 2016. I decided to try a different prep for the chips this time. My hot water heater pumps out at about 140-145F, so I filled them up with just hot tap water and added 2oz of bleach and a couple drops of Dawn dish soap to each bucket. Used two bricks on top each bucket to hold the chips submerged and to retain some heat longer. Tomorrow after work I'll drain, rinse with hot water, then spawn each bucket with half of a sawdust block (2.5 lbs). If it recovers, these bucket will be expanded and premium beds built before winter.
 
As I already posted, the sterilized chips noc'd with King Stropharia did great, and were used 5 days after noc'ing to spawn a new wood chip path. The bucket however started to mold on top, so I quickly dumped it into some older chips. They both seem to be doing good in there new outdoor homes. First pic is the sterilized chip spawn, the second is the bucket spawn.
 
The two year old M. rufobrunnea grain spawn contaminated in two jars, but two seem to be looking good. They get to stay in the house until they show signs of contamination. The M. rufobrunnea and M. importuna buckets went outside too do to early contamination signs. The two M. importuna buckets seem to be recovering, but the rufos aren't showing much sign of recovery. Will wait and see...
 
And finally, all four sterilized chip jars noc'd with 2 year old H. erinaceus seem to have recovered VERY nicely. Might be a bacteria contam in one, but again we wait and see.
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: cronicr]
#25468604 - 09/17/18 11:14 PM (5 years, 4 months ago) |
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Well, between the late feeding of chips and our screwy weather my allenii bed did not fruit this season.
Edited by ghiajake (11/23/18 11:47 AM)
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: ghiajake] 2
#27578859 - 12/12/21 03:32 PM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hard to believe my allenii bed is still producing after over 3 years of complete neglect, and almost 8 years since I first built it. I was able to clone these two, and so far the culture looks clean. As long as it stays that way I'll spend the winter expanding culture to install a new bed come spring.
I'm always looking for good clean spores of P. azure and/or Ps. cyan. Every print/syringe I've gotten has either been contaminated or just never survived long enough to colonize a bed.
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: ghiajake]
#27578868 - 12/12/21 03:39 PM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thank you for you great write up. It was a pleasure to read and very helpful. Amazing results.
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#27596067 - 12/27/21 08:30 AM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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So I decided to rip out my last remaining P. allenii bed. I built it in 2013, and tbh have neglected it for the past few years. I think the last time I fed it with fresh mulch was 2018, yet the culture has continued to hang on. Back a couple months ago I decided I was done composting-in-place, and am finally ready to plant out the flower bed with flowers (shocking, I know! ).
To block the weeds that come up every year I need to put down landscape fabric, but didn't want to just cover the culture and hope it transfers to the new mulch after installing the fabric. So I decided to mine what I could beforehand. Since most of the mulch had already been turned in to soil, I put down a thick mat of straw hoping the culture would leap off. And boy did it! Once the temps got right for fruiting, I removed the mat, which was so colonized I was able to just roll it up like a carpet, leaving bare soil behind. I did leave a small section in place so that I could harvest some fruits to put to agar, and have a couple clean dishes to build spawn from during the winter. I've got two fruits left that I'll be putting to agar as well within the next couple days, then down goes the landscaping fabric. I'll be leaving the small patch of straw under the fabric to see if it colonizes new mulch through it, which I assume it will.
I used all the colonized straw to inoculate a new bed, which currently is just straw and leaves. Will be mulching it in the next few weeks though, depending on the weather. To be honest I'm shocked the original bed has lasted as long as it has... My next experiment is going to be creating mushroom beds in the IBC tote wicking garden beds I'm building this winter. I plan on leaving the plastic lip from the totes about 5" above the cage rail so that I can install my electric slug fencing on each wicking bed. If you haven't used or seen electric slug fences, go check out the one I built on this allenii bed a few years ago.
I'm still looking for prints or proven culture of Azzies and Cyans, for some reason every time I get prints of those species the culture always dies out when I put them outside...
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Getting ready to slum it with the ole' SAB. 
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: ghiajake]
#27596408 - 12/27/21 02:59 PM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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Nice jake, glad to see you still kicking it
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#27596434 - 12/27/21 03:20 PM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thanks guys, glad y'all survived Covigeddon.
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#27596489 - 12/27/21 04:13 PM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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I had an uncle die today from covid. Real talk. He was a good man RIP.
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#27596556 - 12/27/21 05:14 PM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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Sorry to hear that.
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: ghiajake] 1
#27597526 - 12/28/21 02:54 PM (2 years, 30 days ago) |
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Found a slant of my allenii from 2015 harvest in my cold storage. Guess I'm gonnja try getting that culture going too.
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#27598882 - 12/29/21 04:51 PM (2 years, 29 days ago) |
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I'd like to take the time to give a shout out to my awesome DIY flowhood. This baby has been in my life now longer than any woman has. In fact I've gone through 3 women since building it. 
Constructed in 10-2013.

1st set-up used a side-flow configuration. I used it this way from when I first built it until I moved it out of the lab in my basement to the mushroom farm building in 2016.

The 2nd set-up was in my rented space I had for my mushroom farm. Can't find the pics right now, but when I do I'll edit them in. For it I used a back-to-front flow configuration. I shut the farm down 6 months after opening it, so the flowhood went into storage for a couple years.
The 3rd set-up was in 2018. Built a large sterile workspace addition for the flowhood, still using a back-to-front flow configuration. The link to the build for this is in my signature. This worked great and gave me plenty of space to work, but it just took up too much room in my house. With the table needed to hold the flowhood and the table that held the workspace, it took up a 6'x6' space. I had done this in an attempt to bring me back in to mycology, but alas that only lasted a few months before I faded away from it again. So, back in storage it went again.
 
Which brings us to Lab 4.0... Since a myco-friend recently committed suicide, I've been using his death as a catalyst to get back in. We lost an avid mycophile, so I feel I have to step back in to replace the loss in our mycommunity. It's working so far, and I feel the passion creeping back in. I nostalgically used my ole' SAB from 2013 yesterday to do some agar work, but today I tackled something I've wanted to do for years now and never got around to. I finally flipped the flow to a proper top-down configuration... Yes the workspace has been reduced to a mere 2' cubed, but the footprint has also been reduced to 2'x3', so it's not taking up anymore space than it was just sitting on the same table tucked in the same corner for storage.
The legs are just screwed right to the flowhood, then once I flipped the flowhood up I screwed the legs to the table from underneath to hold it secure. I then used the legs as the base frame for the FRP panel workspace walls. I used small brass nails to secure the FRP panels so they won't rust or catch on paper towels as I wipe the walls clean, then caulked all the joints in the workspace with silicone. Next I scavenged the front viewing window from the workspace attachment, made a few modifications, then installed in on the front of the new workspace. The last addition will be a light, but for now the magnetic flashlight in the pics works well enough. I'm so exited to use my new compact efficient lab set-up that I'm gonna have to do another batch of agar real soon just to try it out. 
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: ghiajake]
#27622944 - 01/17/22 08:33 PM (2 years, 10 days ago) |
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Kind of excited right now. I found a culture slant of my allenii culture from 2015 and decided to try and revive it and mix it with my 2021 clone culture to add genetic diversity back into the new bed. The culture has gotten to where they don't produce spores much.
And I got it revived, after 6 years in the fridge. 😎
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: ghiajake]
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ghiajake said: I'd like to take the time to give a shout out to my awesome DIY flowhood. This baby has been in my life now longer than any woman has. In fact I've gone through 3 women since building it. 
If you put in a prefilter and replace it often, your women will last longer ...
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: Haywire]
#27626664 - 01/21/22 06:19 AM (2 years, 6 days ago) |
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Haywire said: If you put in a prefilter and replace it often, your women will last longer ...
Nah, I'm old. No prefilters on the market for me that fit, I'm an outdated model.
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: ghiajake]
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nonsense! get these cut-to-size rolls
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: Haywire]
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would love to do this one day!! sick thread, def want to come back to this when i have a better yard
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: Haywire]
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nonsense! get these cut-to-size rolls 


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No time better than the present. And thanks.
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: ghiajake]
#27632415 - 01/25/22 04:21 PM (2 years, 2 days ago) |
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So while this cold shit keeps me from installing new beds, I guess I'll just have to be patient....

Working on expanding culture for now. The first pic is P. allenii culture I cloned from this year's tiny harvest. It's not the strongest culture, so I may just use this spawn for a wild patch.

I have better culture from a different cloned fruit from this harvest, but I'm probably going to use that culture to install some beds at a buddy's house. So what culture am I going to use for my new allenii bed? Revived culture from my 2015 harvest (best year) that has been chilling in a slant in my fridge for the past 6 years!

Next two pics are azure and cyan culture from MS syringe.

And finally, the first of my new wicking garden beds. If you are unaware of the type of system, go watch a couple YT vids on them. I made a removable frame for either plastic or a shade cloth (depending on season). Still need to figure out how exactly I'll do it, but I'll be installing version 2.0 of my electric slug fence on it. The goal is to install my allenii, azure, and cyan beds in each of these garden beds. I will be using collars for the plants so that I don't disturb the mycelium when pulling the plants out as they die off.
 
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: ghiajake]
#27644368 - 02/03/22 06:07 PM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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So my aspen/paper bedding blocks are chucking right along. The azure culture is leading the pack with the first 99.99% colonized block in 12 days. The second bag of azure has a few days to go, but that's more because of poor mixing at spawn. Second is the allenii, and the cyan is in last. The allenii myc bruised when I squeezed the air out of the bag.
  
Next up is the three woodlover cultures on hickory/oak HWFP, again with the azure winning and the cyan training last.

Next is some azure and cyan culture on agar, and lastly is my resurrected 2015 allenii slant culture that's was stored in my fridge for 6 years. It's slow going, but going it is.
 
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: ghiajake] 1
#27696715 - 03/15/22 06:45 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Been busy for the past few weeks, but the weather finally got nice enough I could start building my beds. These are all my new P. azure beds (total of 156ft2, 3" deep). Used seven 5.5lbs sawdust spawn bags, which comes out to around 1lb per 12ft3 spawn rate. Going to get another truckload of mulch tomorrow to do the Ps. cyan beds.
    
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: ghiajake]
#27697180 - 03/16/22 02:16 AM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Lol what do your neighbors think you're growing out there? Or is that your garage that's so close?
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: Forrester]
#27697496 - 03/16/22 10:17 AM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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They know, and are fine with it.
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: ghiajake] 1
#27699424 - 03/17/22 08:36 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Got the first of my cyan garden beds done today. This is the east side of my house, so I'll probably plant lettuces in this bed. I've been composting mulch in the spot for three years now, so the soil is just prime. I'll probably be doing this with my old allenii bed when I redo it.
After stripping off what mulch hadn't composted yet, I cut the bottoms of each bucket off with a circular saw so each bottom was the same size. Next I used the buckets to make marks in the soil, then used a square shovel to cut the soil so the buckets would slide right it. I used a rubber mallet and 2x4 to seat the buckets, tamped the soil around the outside, then used my garden claw to loosen the soil inside the buckets. I then topped off the buckets with some potting soil.
I'd like to take a break and mention the sponsor of this bed, Dr Pepper. When you're thirsty after a hot day in the sun, there is nothing better to quench your thirst.
🌶Don't you want to be a Pepper too?🌶 😂
Now back to our regular broadcast. As you can see, I made a double thick layer of weed barrier out of cardboard. This should keep weeds back for a couple years, and the double thickness will keep the existing wild mycelium held back long enough for the cyan spawn to colonize the new mulch. After spawning and installing the mulch, I drilled holes in the bottoms of the buckets. Small ones to allow for restricted evaporation, and a bigger hole for planting seed. Other than for restricting evaporation, I had to do something to keep the neighbor cats from using them as a litter box. Bless their hearts... 🙄🤣
         
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: ghiajake] 1
#27699702 - 03/18/22 02:13 AM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Nice dude I love that you're reusing all those plastic cat litter buckets too
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: Forrester] 1
#27700557 - 03/18/22 06:41 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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I have TONS of fuckin' buckets! 
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: ghiajake] 2
#27732016 - 04/12/22 09:04 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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I think I'm finally done building azure beds in my yard, a full "baker's dozen"... I have 1 more cyan bed to build under my cedar tree to make a total of 4. And lastly 2 allenii beds, re-building my original bed and building a MASSIVE one that covers half my backyard.
The first 5 pics are ones I've shown here already a month or so ago, which are doing awesome now. These are the old pics, but my flowers and hostas have started coming up. They are doing so well that I mined spawn from the first few beds to spawn the five beds pictured after. And I planted "Yellow Groove" Bamboo in the bed in the 5th pic (see below).
    
New beds, spawned with mined spawn. I planted "Japanese Timber" Bamboo in the bed in the first pic, and the next 4 are my peach, nectarine, and pear trees.
    
The next two were spawned with sawdust spawn. I planted Black Bamboo in the left corner of the bed in the first pic, and will be planting hostas around the the rest of that bed. I will be adding trap rock to the open areas in the bed. The bed in the second pic is a flower bed, containing Surprise Lilies (seen in pic), Canna Lilies, and Purple Elephant Ears.
 
And the last azure bed, lucky number 13, is my experimental one. If you haven't seen one of these, it's a self-wicking IBC tote garden bed (see YouTube). My hope is that with the wicking system, I'll be able to accurately control the amount of water the fungi needs, and extend the spring and fall fruiting times. I also believe the thick mycelial mat will force evaporation to occur through the buckets, requiring less watering. I will also be installing an electric slug fence on the garden bed.
After cutting the IBC tote down, I used the extra piece of cage to build a removable greenhouse/shade tent frame. This one is for shorter plants, or early spring starts. I will be using another full cage as an extension for taller plants (like the ginger I planted) to extend the season in the fall. The next step was to install the coil, the filler pipe stand, and the overflow pipe. The sock on the drainage pipe is to stop the sand from getting into the "reservoir". After that is the sand layer, which I lightly packed in. I leveled the sand out to just below the overflow pipe, so that the water level will rise high enough to reach the soil level and initiate the wicking. Next was about 11" of soil mix (5 parts topsoil, 3 parts composted manure, 2 parts vermiculite, 1 part sand, and 1 part perlite). I cut the bottoms of the buckets off, and sunk them a couple inches into the soil leveling the tops of the buckets with the lip of the IBC tote. These are so I can harvest root crops, or amend soil without having to disturb the mycelial colony. After that I packed in 8 cubic feet of mulch 4" deep around the buckets, spawned with half a bag of sawdust spawn. Lastly I placed my ginger rhizomes in the buckets, then topped them off with 2 parts Pro-Mix and 1 part composted manure.
    
And lastly for today... This one isn't a psilly species, but is still a "woodlover". 
I finally have eradicated all grass from my front yard! 
I have two big maple trees in my front yard that shed leaves, sticks, branches, bark, and whirligigs every year. So I turned this area into a King Stropharia myco-composting pile. Instead of busting up the sawdust blocks, I just sliced them in half and laid them flat so the myc doesn't have to waste time recovering. I piled all the tree-trash around the blocks, then covered it all with a fresh layer of hardwood mulch. I left a strip bare to install the bench you see in the pics, then fill in with trap rock so the bamboo in the azure bed against the house doesn't spread into the Stropharia bed. I'll also be planting hostas in that azure bed, around the bamboo.
 
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: ghiajake]
#27939594 - 09/07/22 10:18 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Laziness is the Father of all invention, right? Well, it works for creating new initially unintended experimentations too. I finally got around to rebuilding my 9 year old allenii bed today. Some of you may remember I cloned culture from a fruit last December and worked it over the winter to be ready in the spring with my other species beds. Well, I just never got around to it... But the spawn bags, which have been siting in the shade under a towel in my koi pond green house for the past 6 months, were clean as a whistle and white as the driven snow.
So the experiment? How many weeks before season can you make a bed and still get fruits? I normally start seeing pins from that bed the week before Thanksgiving, so that is around 10 weeks from now. The bed was completely stripped of the old mulch in the spring, so no established colony was left to interfere with the experiment. My expectation? No fruits this year, but the spawn should have enough time get relatively established by first snowfall. At least enough to survive the winter. This is the same mulch as all the other beds I made this year, with a cardboard barrier underneath like I originally started it with 9 years ago.
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: ghiajake]
#27956866 - 09/19/22 12:59 AM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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So, happenstance provided me space for a new late season experimental bed. This time is my first interspecies orgy! 
  
Outside my home I HAD two massive 80 year old maples, but one has been dying slowly for the past 5 years. I finally had the city come take it out, and after they ground the stump down I decided to spawn the remains with leftover allenii and azure spawn from my big Jan/Feb spawn production push. The culture has just been sitting in the shade in my koi pond greenhouse all year, with a towel over them to block light.
 
I decided this is a perfect example to show just how easy outdoor cultivation can be if you just pay attention to nature. The ground stump is green, only 2 days old when I spawned it. I dug down in the mulch to expose the solid wood left underneath and spawned the cultures in direct contact with the submerged stump. I then smacked the blocks once with the shovel and covered them, lightly compacting the mulch so I don't get ankle-breaking holes in the mulch.
  
And for shits and giggles, I decided to make it a threesome by throwing some mined cyan spawn from one of my other beds. It was dry as a bone, but still white.

And the finale (for now). Didn't even bother with watering it in since the myc will be able to draw moisture through the stump and surrounding soil. I plan on doing my tree row in the landscape timbers next spring to match the rest of my landscaping, but for now the bed is done. We shall see which species comes out on top.
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: ghiajake]
#27958301 - 09/19/22 10:17 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: ghiajake]
#28117352 - 12/30/22 10:56 AM (1 year, 28 days ago) |
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I started some uncle bens with az from a spore syringe, and all were contaminated, so I buried them in a pile of mixed fresh wood chips in the yard that I just got. There was some white mixed in with the contam, so I hope I get lucky!
Do you think I should cover the wood chips with anything for the rest of winter and spring?
Wish me luck guys!
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: Drmbanana]
#28122325 - 01/03/23 09:29 AM (1 year, 24 days ago) |
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Nah, just let them ride out the winter as is.
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: ghiajake]
#28267097 - 04/07/23 03:20 PM (9 months, 16 days ago) |
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hey Jake. this is all pretty nifty and inspiring. did you have any actives this past season from any of the beds you built in 2022?
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: fuktardles]
#28322307 - 05/16/23 06:44 PM (8 months, 8 days ago) |
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I unfortunately did not get anything fruited last season. Most of the beds are still colonized with a good thick mat of myc though, and the chips haven't been broken down yet. We'll see how things go this year.
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: ghiajake]
#28323904 - 05/17/23 07:55 PM (8 months, 7 days ago) |
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Cool, I’ll be saving this post.
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: fiddle_head]
#28571592 - 12/06/23 01:56 PM (1 month, 21 days ago) |
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Well, once again nature proves that the best way to grow outdoor species is to set it and forget it... After 20 months two of my Ps. cyan beds finally decided to fruit, and boy did they! What would have been awesome is if I had paid attention and checked before we had several nights in the low 20's (F). Only reason I noticed them is I was looking in my greenhouse shed for my gas can and found a huge cluster growing inside. I took a video but forgot I can't upload them here. I'll take pics of the blackened fruit clusters in a couple days after I use a leaf blower to clear the bed, but here are some from today. At least I got a MASSIVE dump of spores on the cyans this year. Managed to find enough that weren't freeze-damaged for my guinee pigs to try.

   
I refurbished my allenii bed 14 months ago, and grew canna lillies in it during the summer. After the first freeze about 1.5 months ago I watered the bed real good, chopped down the lilly stalks, and laid them over the bed to contain the moisture. We had about 3 months of drought this year, so I really didn't expect o get anything this season. But the weather has been perfect for weeks now, and looks to be the same until Christmas at least. YAY El Nino!!!
    
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: ghiajake] 2
#28574411 - 12/08/23 01:28 PM (1 month, 19 days ago) |
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We've got 3 more days of above freezing temps, and rain coming tomorrow, so I cleared off all the leaf-cover from the 3 beds that are producing this year so they can get plenty of air and hopefully stimulate pinning. I'll cover the beds again Sunday evening before the temps drop Monday morning, then clear them again next warm front. This El Nino weather pattern this year should keep our temps in the proper range for the next month at least.
Ps. cyan Bed 1: A small bed (3'x3') built in early 2022 that didn't produce a lot this year, but I had given up on my cyan culture so it was definitely a thankful surprise. In this bed I grow a "Candy Pops" cultivar of mint in the black pot, and Egyptian Walking Onions.
  
Ps. cyan Bed 2: My 3rd largest woodlover bed (2'x14'), built early in 2022. I grow three different types of mint in the black pots, and purple Morning Glories up poles that I've removed to clear the bed. This bed went STUPID with fruits this year! Zoom in and look at all the blacked fruit clusters... I really wish I had checked on them, but I'd been sick for over a month and just never went in my backyard. That's ok though, the massive spore load this season will just guarantee I get a good distribution of genetics that will naturalize to my Midwestern climate like my P. allenii have. Like I said in my last post, I found enough decent fruits inside the greenhouse shed (last pic) that my testers got an early Christmas present.
             
P. allenii Bed 1: Old Faithful! This bed was first built 9-10 years ago, although I have stripped the old culture out and respawned it with its own cloned culture twice (2018 and 2022). This was the first year that intentionally grew any plants in the bed, although I have let the weeds take it over a couple years when I didn't care enough to clear them. I planted some bamboo in the bed in the fall of 2021, and Canna Lillies this spring when it got warm. I decided to leave the bulbs in the ground this year, and just insulate them (and the culture) over the winter with leaves and the Canna Lilly stalks. I'm glad I did, because the allenii like clustering in between the bulbs. Normally this bed doesn't fruit down it's center where the roof dripline runs, usually only fruiting at the edges. But the bulbs LOVED being in the dripline, and the culture loves the bulbs...
       
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: ghiajake]
#28583208 - 12/14/23 09:17 PM (1 month, 13 days ago) |
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