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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: Haywire]
#27630443 - 01/24/22 01:57 AM (2 years, 4 days ago) |
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would love to do this one day!! sick thread, def want to come back to this when i have a better yard
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: Haywire]
#27632371 - 01/25/22 03:53 PM (2 years, 2 days ago) |
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Quote:
Haywire said:

nonsense! get these cut-to-size rolls 


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hazyhorse said: would love to do this one day!! sick thread, def want to come back to this when i have a better yard
No time better than the present. And thanks.
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: ghiajake]
#27632415 - 01/25/22 04:21 PM (2 years, 2 days ago) |
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So while this cold shit keeps me from installing new beds, I guess I'll just have to be patient....

Working on expanding culture for now. The first pic is P. allenii culture I cloned from this year's tiny harvest. It's not the strongest culture, so I may just use this spawn for a wild patch.

I have better culture from a different cloned fruit from this harvest, but I'm probably going to use that culture to install some beds at a buddy's house. So what culture am I going to use for my new allenii bed? Revived culture from my 2015 harvest (best year) that has been chilling in a slant in my fridge for the past 6 years!

Next two pics are azure and cyan culture from MS syringe.

And finally, the first of my new wicking garden beds. If you are unaware of the type of system, go watch a couple YT vids on them. I made a removable frame for either plastic or a shade cloth (depending on season). Still need to figure out how exactly I'll do it, but I'll be installing version 2.0 of my electric slug fence on it. The goal is to install my allenii, azure, and cyan beds in each of these garden beds. I will be using collars for the plants so that I don't disturb the mycelium when pulling the plants out as they die off.
 
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: ghiajake]
#27644368 - 02/03/22 06:07 PM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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So my aspen/paper bedding blocks are chucking right along. The azure culture is leading the pack with the first 99.99% colonized block in 12 days. The second bag of azure has a few days to go, but that's more because of poor mixing at spawn. Second is the allenii, and the cyan is in last. The allenii myc bruised when I squeezed the air out of the bag.
  
Next up is the three woodlover cultures on hickory/oak HWFP, again with the azure winning and the cyan training last.

Next is some azure and cyan culture on agar, and lastly is my resurrected 2015 allenii slant culture that's was stored in my fridge for 6 years. It's slow going, but going it is.
 
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: ghiajake] 1
#27696715 - 03/15/22 06:45 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Been busy for the past few weeks, but the weather finally got nice enough I could start building my beds. These are all my new P. azure beds (total of 156ft2, 3" deep). Used seven 5.5lbs sawdust spawn bags, which comes out to around 1lb per 12ft3 spawn rate. Going to get another truckload of mulch tomorrow to do the Ps. cyan beds.
    
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: ghiajake]
#27697180 - 03/16/22 02:16 AM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Lol what do your neighbors think you're growing out there? Or is that your garage that's so close?
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: Forrester]
#27697496 - 03/16/22 10:17 AM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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They know, and are fine with it.
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: ghiajake] 1
#27699424 - 03/17/22 08:36 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Got the first of my cyan garden beds done today. This is the east side of my house, so I'll probably plant lettuces in this bed. I've been composting mulch in the spot for three years now, so the soil is just prime. I'll probably be doing this with my old allenii bed when I redo it.
After stripping off what mulch hadn't composted yet, I cut the bottoms of each bucket off with a circular saw so each bottom was the same size. Next I used the buckets to make marks in the soil, then used a square shovel to cut the soil so the buckets would slide right it. I used a rubber mallet and 2x4 to seat the buckets, tamped the soil around the outside, then used my garden claw to loosen the soil inside the buckets. I then topped off the buckets with some potting soil.
I'd like to take a break and mention the sponsor of this bed, Dr Pepper. When you're thirsty after a hot day in the sun, there is nothing better to quench your thirst.
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Now back to our regular broadcast. As you can see, I made a double thick layer of weed barrier out of cardboard. This should keep weeds back for a couple years, and the double thickness will keep the existing wild mycelium held back long enough for the cyan spawn to colonize the new mulch. After spawning and installing the mulch, I drilled holes in the bottoms of the buckets. Small ones to allow for restricted evaporation, and a bigger hole for planting seed. Other than for restricting evaporation, I had to do something to keep the neighbor cats from using them as a litter box. Bless their hearts... 🙄🤣
         
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: ghiajake] 1
#27699702 - 03/18/22 02:13 AM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Nice dude I love that you're reusing all those plastic cat litter buckets too
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: Forrester] 1
#27700557 - 03/18/22 06:41 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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I have TONS of fuckin' buckets! 
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: ghiajake] 2
#27732016 - 04/12/22 09:04 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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I think I'm finally done building azure beds in my yard, a full "baker's dozen"... I have 1 more cyan bed to build under my cedar tree to make a total of 4. And lastly 2 allenii beds, re-building my original bed and building a MASSIVE one that covers half my backyard.
The first 5 pics are ones I've shown here already a month or so ago, which are doing awesome now. These are the old pics, but my flowers and hostas have started coming up. They are doing so well that I mined spawn from the first few beds to spawn the five beds pictured after. And I planted "Yellow Groove" Bamboo in the bed in the 5th pic (see below).
    
New beds, spawned with mined spawn. I planted "Japanese Timber" Bamboo in the bed in the first pic, and the next 4 are my peach, nectarine, and pear trees.
    
The next two were spawned with sawdust spawn. I planted Black Bamboo in the left corner of the bed in the first pic, and will be planting hostas around the the rest of that bed. I will be adding trap rock to the open areas in the bed. The bed in the second pic is a flower bed, containing Surprise Lilies (seen in pic), Canna Lilies, and Purple Elephant Ears.
 
And the last azure bed, lucky number 13, is my experimental one. If you haven't seen one of these, it's a self-wicking IBC tote garden bed (see YouTube). My hope is that with the wicking system, I'll be able to accurately control the amount of water the fungi needs, and extend the spring and fall fruiting times. I also believe the thick mycelial mat will force evaporation to occur through the buckets, requiring less watering. I will also be installing an electric slug fence on the garden bed.
After cutting the IBC tote down, I used the extra piece of cage to build a removable greenhouse/shade tent frame. This one is for shorter plants, or early spring starts. I will be using another full cage as an extension for taller plants (like the ginger I planted) to extend the season in the fall. The next step was to install the coil, the filler pipe stand, and the overflow pipe. The sock on the drainage pipe is to stop the sand from getting into the "reservoir". After that is the sand layer, which I lightly packed in. I leveled the sand out to just below the overflow pipe, so that the water level will rise high enough to reach the soil level and initiate the wicking. Next was about 11" of soil mix (5 parts topsoil, 3 parts composted manure, 2 parts vermiculite, 1 part sand, and 1 part perlite). I cut the bottoms of the buckets off, and sunk them a couple inches into the soil leveling the tops of the buckets with the lip of the IBC tote. These are so I can harvest root crops, or amend soil without having to disturb the mycelial colony. After that I packed in 8 cubic feet of mulch 4" deep around the buckets, spawned with half a bag of sawdust spawn. Lastly I placed my ginger rhizomes in the buckets, then topped them off with 2 parts Pro-Mix and 1 part composted manure.
    
And lastly for today... This one isn't a psilly species, but is still a "woodlover". 
I finally have eradicated all grass from my front yard! 
I have two big maple trees in my front yard that shed leaves, sticks, branches, bark, and whirligigs every year. So I turned this area into a King Stropharia myco-composting pile. Instead of busting up the sawdust blocks, I just sliced them in half and laid them flat so the myc doesn't have to waste time recovering. I piled all the tree-trash around the blocks, then covered it all with a fresh layer of hardwood mulch. I left a strip bare to install the bench you see in the pics, then fill in with trap rock so the bamboo in the azure bed against the house doesn't spread into the Stropharia bed. I'll also be planting hostas in that azure bed, around the bamboo.
 
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: ghiajake]
#27939594 - 09/07/22 10:18 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Laziness is the Father of all invention, right? Well, it works for creating new initially unintended experimentations too. I finally got around to rebuilding my 9 year old allenii bed today. Some of you may remember I cloned culture from a fruit last December and worked it over the winter to be ready in the spring with my other species beds. Well, I just never got around to it... But the spawn bags, which have been siting in the shade under a towel in my koi pond green house for the past 6 months, were clean as a whistle and white as the driven snow.
So the experiment? How many weeks before season can you make a bed and still get fruits? I normally start seeing pins from that bed the week before Thanksgiving, so that is around 10 weeks from now. The bed was completely stripped of the old mulch in the spring, so no established colony was left to interfere with the experiment. My expectation? No fruits this year, but the spawn should have enough time get relatively established by first snowfall. At least enough to survive the winter. This is the same mulch as all the other beds I made this year, with a cardboard barrier underneath like I originally started it with 9 years ago.
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: ghiajake]
#27956866 - 09/19/22 12:59 AM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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So, happenstance provided me space for a new late season experimental bed. This time is my first interspecies orgy! 
  
Outside my home I HAD two massive 80 year old maples, but one has been dying slowly for the past 5 years. I finally had the city come take it out, and after they ground the stump down I decided to spawn the remains with leftover allenii and azure spawn from my big Jan/Feb spawn production push. The culture has just been sitting in the shade in my koi pond greenhouse all year, with a towel over them to block light.
 
I decided this is a perfect example to show just how easy outdoor cultivation can be if you just pay attention to nature. The ground stump is green, only 2 days old when I spawned it. I dug down in the mulch to expose the solid wood left underneath and spawned the cultures in direct contact with the submerged stump. I then smacked the blocks once with the shovel and covered them, lightly compacting the mulch so I don't get ankle-breaking holes in the mulch.
  
And for shits and giggles, I decided to make it a threesome by throwing some mined cyan spawn from one of my other beds. It was dry as a bone, but still white.

And the finale (for now). Didn't even bother with watering it in since the myc will be able to draw moisture through the stump and surrounding soil. I plan on doing my tree row in the landscape timbers next spring to match the rest of my landscaping, but for now the bed is done. We shall see which species comes out on top.
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: ghiajake]
#27958301 - 09/19/22 10:17 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: ghiajake]
#28117352 - 12/30/22 10:56 AM (1 year, 28 days ago) |
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I started some uncle bens with az from a spore syringe, and all were contaminated, so I buried them in a pile of mixed fresh wood chips in the yard that I just got. There was some white mixed in with the contam, so I hope I get lucky!
Do you think I should cover the wood chips with anything for the rest of winter and spring?
Wish me luck guys!
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: Drmbanana]
#28122325 - 01/03/23 09:29 AM (1 year, 24 days ago) |
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Nah, just let them ride out the winter as is.
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: ghiajake]
#28267097 - 04/07/23 03:20 PM (9 months, 16 days ago) |
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hey Jake. this is all pretty nifty and inspiring. did you have any actives this past season from any of the beds you built in 2022?
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: fuktardles]
#28322307 - 05/16/23 06:44 PM (8 months, 8 days ago) |
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I unfortunately did not get anything fruited last season. Most of the beds are still colonized with a good thick mat of myc though, and the chips haven't been broken down yet. We'll see how things go this year.
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: ghiajake]
#28323904 - 05/17/23 07:55 PM (8 months, 7 days ago) |
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Cool, I’ll be saving this post.
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: fiddle_head]
#28571592 - 12/06/23 01:56 PM (1 month, 21 days ago) |
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Well, once again nature proves that the best way to grow outdoor species is to set it and forget it... After 20 months two of my Ps. cyan beds finally decided to fruit, and boy did they! What would have been awesome is if I had paid attention and checked before we had several nights in the low 20's (F). Only reason I noticed them is I was looking in my greenhouse shed for my gas can and found a huge cluster growing inside. I took a video but forgot I can't upload them here. I'll take pics of the blackened fruit clusters in a couple days after I use a leaf blower to clear the bed, but here are some from today. At least I got a MASSIVE dump of spores on the cyans this year. Managed to find enough that weren't freeze-damaged for my guinee pigs to try.

   
I refurbished my allenii bed 14 months ago, and grew canna lillies in it during the summer. After the first freeze about 1.5 months ago I watered the bed real good, chopped down the lilly stalks, and laid them over the bed to contain the moisture. We had about 3 months of drought this year, so I really didn't expect o get anything this season. But the weather has been perfect for weeks now, and looks to be the same until Christmas at least. YAY El Nino!!!
    
Edited by ghiajake (12/06/23 03:05 PM)
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