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blindingleaf
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: Asura]
#19952266 - 05/07/14 12:01 AM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'm surprised ur shiitaki is outrunning the others!! where is the culture from?
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ghiajake
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: blindingleaf]
#19952459 - 05/07/14 12:41 AM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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Not sure, but it is S75 culture. I think it's because the Shiitake sawdust spawn supplemented with 20% bran, and/or because the Shiitake doesn't mind cooler temps.
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: ghiajake]
#19952548 - 05/07/14 01:14 AM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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Wow, this makes me really want to start an outdoor bed!
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ghiajake
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: ferris_wheel]
#19952560 - 05/07/14 01:18 AM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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Do it!
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: ghiajake]
#19954524 - 05/07/14 03:11 PM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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Nice write up dude! I bet it takes a lot of effort to get that much SPAWN!!!
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blindingleaf
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: bongjuice420]
#19954564 - 05/07/14 03:23 PM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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^^^ i know right? and a fuckin garage too he has an unfair advantage in that he has enslaved garden gnomes as his help. garden gnomes are nearly extinct in the city, maybe some pockets still survive, but not in my area.
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ghiajake
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: blindingleaf]
#19954661 - 05/07/14 03:57 PM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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Actually, all of the chip spawn was colonized on a shelf in my laundry room. Except for the Shiitake, Enoki, and Reishi beds, which were spawned with contaminated sawdust blocks. And btw, they are leprechauns not gnomes. I found their gold and stole it! I told them if they work for me, I'll pay them back with a piece of their own gold each week.
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: ghiajake]
#19955063 - 05/07/14 05:33 PM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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Post is getting better and better Ghia! I can't wait to see these produce!
Damn, I want me some leprechauns, tricky little bastards they are thought, I found the end of a rainbow once, actually it just kind of appeared, on the hood of a car, they must've known I was trailing them and getting close, so they set up a hologram to make me think it was all a lie, tricky little bastards!
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: Imperfect Iam]
#19996765 - 05/16/14 09:38 AM (9 years, 8 months ago) |
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In for the study...
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: The Lightning]
#20073403 - 06/02/14 11:52 AM (9 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: moricz]
#20073411 - 06/02/14 11:53 AM (9 years, 7 months ago) |
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So I tried this and critters dug up the whole plot..
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: ghiajake]
#20217443 - 07/02/14 11:58 PM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hi Jake. How are those beds doing?
I made my first one yesterday. King oyster. Made from a contaminated grow with woodchips and straw. Covered it with an additional 2-3 inch layer of woodchips.
One question: Should I cover the bed with a layer of leaves or something else? I see you used some burlap?
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: PurpleHead]
#20217452 - 07/03/14 12:00 AM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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hows everything going jake?
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: cronicr]
#20217462 - 07/03/14 12:04 AM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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i was wondering too dude!! you getting ready for telluride now?
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: blindingleaf]
#20217546 - 07/03/14 12:32 AM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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Just posting to see how this turns out I would like to try this one day
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: aykaye47]
#20217588 - 07/03/14 12:43 AM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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Glad to see people starting to respond to this important post again!
My outdoor reishi bed is getting some fruits, but I'm thinking instead of chopping up the spent substrates, bury them, as you had later said I do beleive.
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: Imperfect Iam]
#20218605 - 07/03/14 08:54 AM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hey guys! Some of the beds are chugging along, and some died off. In hindsight, as I may have mentioned before, eliminate the sawdust from the process. It holds too much moisture, and I've found it decomposes into soil too quickly. Compacts the beds too much. Haven't gotten any fruits yet, but most of the cultures I used are fall fruiters. I did mine quit a bit of spawn from the two best colonizing beds to make another bed, and to give 8 lb spawn each to a friend in MI.
ayakaye - No time better than the present! If you don't have the land, then build them in flower pots.
BL - Telluride is still over a month away. Not packing yet. I'm still trying to find a ride out there, but I'm working on my Ghia to get it ready in case I have to drive it.
drawde - I haven't had critters, but you could bury chicken wire under the top layer of mulch to keep critters from digging.
Iam - I think you're right on the burying Reishi. The only other option I think might be to pre-colonize wood chips in filter-patch bags. I'm thinking busting up the sawdust spawn damages the network too much for it to recover. If you use chips in bags, when you bust it up to spawn the bed each chip will still have a healthy colony.
Purple - The burlap sacks held in too much moisture. I removed them when I notice mold growing on the bottom of the sacks. I'm sure the large amount of sawdust I used in the beds was more the reason for this than the burlap though. Next time I'll not use the sawdust, and maybe split the burlap sacks so they are only one layer thick. I would say it depends on how much water your bed is going to get. I built most of my mother beds in the dripline from my roof (no gutters) and we've had a LOT of rain. If you bed is built where it gets a lot of natural watering, then I wouldn't cover it with leaves. If it doesn't get a lot of water, then cover it with leaves.
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: ghiajake]
#20219118 - 07/03/14 11:32 AM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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So glad this thread got bumped. I'm moving into a spot now that doesn't look like it's been raked in about 2 years. The landlord just went through and cut down various smaller trees (planning on inoculating the healthy stumps) and ran them through a chipper. There are numerous piles of chips laying all throughout the bed (2nd pic). It's probably 10-15' wide, goes up the hill and wraps around the side of the house and gets even wider(1st pic). I'm going to plant a few small japanese maples and ferns in between the older established oak and maples in an attempt to recreate a small forest setting, but in the mean time I hate to let all of these wood chips go to waste. Is there anyway I can noc up a bunch of grain bags and spread them through out all of this wood chip/leaf litter and let it roll? I'd like to let a few different wood loving species colonize through out and establish themselves in the woodland setting, would this be possible if I left some of the nicer fruits to go to spore?. It does get a few hours of late afternoon sun, though I'm hoping the inches of leaves will help shield the colonizing myc. Eventually the japanese maples should get established enough to provide a little more shade. Any strain recommendations and tips for this endeavor?
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: MrGiraffe]
#20219756 - 07/03/14 02:40 PM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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If those chips have been there a while, then they probably already have competing fungi established. Your best course of action would be to spawn with King Stropharia on top of the existing mulch, then covering the spawn with some clean wood chips (or straw) and leaves. Don't use grain spawn, critters will just eat it. Use grain to spawn pasteurized straw, sawdust, or wood chips indoors, then use that to spawn your outdoor bed.
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Re: Ghia's Easy Outdoor Mushroom Beds [Re: ghiajake]
#20220805 - 07/03/14 07:38 PM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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The chips appear to be relatively fresh, judged by the stumps left from the chopped trees that I assumed the chips are from. That, and they are mostly on top of the leaves from the previous fall in about 3 different spots, you're probably right about a competing fungi. I've only noticed one mushroom growing in the area, but there's plenty of moss so I know there's more that I havent seen or have yet to fruit. I hadn't even considered the critters eating up the grain, that'd be a waste. I did rethink it on a return trip back to the house and thought maybe I'll just use grain spawn to noc a few 5 gallon buckets of a wood chip/sawdust mixture, mainly because I remembered that was how you did your outdoor beds. I currently have pink oyster and reishi on agar, so maybe I'll use those to make up some dowels for the stumps while I wait to get a stro culture and chips ready for the bed, I think it's going to take quite a bit of spawn for the amount I'm trying to do. If I leave some fruits to go to spore, what are the odds that I can establish any of these species in my yard? Thanks for the insight Jake.
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