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Re: Psychedelics and mood stablizers [Re: fapjack]
    #19830455 - 04/11/14 09:42 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

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I wouldn't take any of those.  My friend is on Lamictal, and she says it makes her more stable.  I don't believe it at all.  She's still got serious mania and depression issues, it seems like it doesn't do shit.  Don't think antidepressants are going to make you happy either, they just numb the pain a bit but also make it harder to be happy in the process.  Coming from someone that is bipolar, don't go on meds unless you can't function without them.  Taking a drug everyday that permanently changes how you feel is a fucking curse.






I've been on anti-depressants before. They flatten me out and space me the hell out. Then I had an a-typical anti-depressant welbutrin, added to the mix and the two totally scrambled my brains. My dosage of trazadone was also raised another 50 mg and I was constantly dizzy for a while, I've literally been all over the place from the meds they've put me on, it's ridiculous.

That being said, although I feel stable enough to say that I'm not suicidal, I'm barely functioning. The quality of my life has totally diminished this last year and I've been in therapy for the last 8 months. I'm really really trying to fix myself without meds, but I'm at the point where I need help. I know that the meds are a bandaid, I'm just trying to get to the point where I can get my life back to where it was and improve my habits/slowly train myself to go without out them.

I don't "need" meds in the sense that I'm suicidal, though. I don't feel stabilized, though, and if I will get few negative side-effects from going on a mood stabilizer, then it could be worth a try right?



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If you're into a holistic approach, you should check out Bach Flower Remedies.  I was diagnosed with bipolar and that's the treatment I got.  I was very opposed to taking meds and I got prescribed a few things.  Never took em, so I don't know if they work.  But that flower shit, and a few very introspective and gnarly LSD trips, really helped me out.  The remedies are all unique and are made my someone for your personal needs.





Yeah, don't take meds from doctors, take LSD from strangers!

I just had that conversation with my drug counselor today. I did that and look how I turned out.

:curbyourenthusiasm:

Really though, you probably aren't even bi-polar. People are misdiagnosed with it a lot.





lol, no I've had some very poignant trips, psychedelics have undoubtedly helped me out a lot and IMO, have done what they needed to do, but I'm at the point where I do not think it will help me.

I've been mis-diagnosed with a lot of other things in the past, and a psychiatrist brought up the possibility of me being bi-polar when I was as young as 13.
I feel like people are constantly diagnosed with things they don't have, and I feel like far too many people are medicated - but my parents have openly told me they feel like I might be bipolar a few times before. I'm really bad when it comes to talking about the extent of my issues with depression/anxiety/all-over unstable thinking, it's really really tough for me to admit to the things that I feel or ask for help, but a diagnosis like this kind of comes as a relief to me because before I just thought I was so fucked up with multiple disorders and all these things going on, when really it could honestly be plausible that I'm just bipolar :shrug:.


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Oh btw, my friend on lamictal has no problems when she takes LSD or MDMA.





good to know, thanks.


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Re: Psychedelics and mood stablizers [Re: zZZz]
    #19830460 - 04/11/14 09:43 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

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correct me if i am wrong but i thought psychiatrist were suppose to help get to the root of the problem, not just give you a happy meal, with the little toy inside, and send you on your way.. :strokebeard:







nope, that's what the psychologist is for.

Psychiatrist is supposed to adminster medications and help you find the right combo.
I have an excellent psychologist who I'll be talking to about this diagnosis.


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Re: Psychedelics and mood stablizers [Re: pirate-blues]
    #19831981 - 04/12/14 09:42 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

I still say you should try the holistic approach.  Cause with that, it actually does some healing and you only take the Bach Flower stuff for a few months.  Along with some good therapy, you can not only be healed but you can learn to use your bipolarity instead of it using you.


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Re: Psychedelics and mood stablizers [Re: sanchothestoner]
    #19832036 - 04/12/14 10:04 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

OP.  If you were bi-polar it wouldn't be like "oh a doc told me I'm bi polar, guess that makes sense"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bipolar_disorder


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Re: Psychedelics and mood stablizers [Re: collinZzZz]
    #19832142 - 04/12/14 10:43 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

Do what you want to do, pirate-blues, there's really nothing wrong with taking
a substance for helping your mind... and if you think that it will help, then go for it.

Any advice I can give has nothing to do with the substance that you want to take
I've never taken it...

But, just pay close attention to yourself, close and loving attention.

When intense and unstable or even painful feelings and thoughts arrive,
smile at them.. they can do you no harm, in the broad spectrum of life.
Remember that even if a doctor has diagnosed a problem in your mind
That's just what it is. A diagnosis... potentially helpful.
There's more to you than a diagnosis, in my opinion.


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Re: Psychedelics and mood stablizers [Re: Chakra Shock]
    #19833802 - 04/12/14 04:51 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

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collinZzZz said:
OP.  If you were bi-polar it wouldn't be like "oh a doc told me I'm bi polar, guess that makes sense"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bipolar_disorder





I'm just curious to see how I should be reacting to this news?
Please, enlighten me.

I'm not reading a wikipedia link, I'm aware of what the disorder is and what it entails.


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I still say you should try the holistic approach.  Cause with that, it actually does some healing and you only take the Bach Flower stuff for a few months.  Along with some good therapy, you can not only be healed but you can learn to use your bipolarity instead of it using you.






thanks for your input, man. I appreciate it, and I'll look into it - if there's no interactions then I'll try it. I am going to try the mood stabilizer and I've filled the prescription, but I'm also doing other things to try and help myself, hot yoga, balancing my diet and schedule. I honestly feel a little better about the whole thing and I have realized that regardless of what I have or don't have, I haven't been addressing this problem the way I should be.

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Do what you want to do, pirate-blues, there's really nothing wrong with taking
a substance for helping your mind... and if you think that it will help, then go for it.

Any advice I can give has nothing to do with the substance that you want to take
I've never taken it...

But, just pay close attention to yourself, close and loving attention.

When intense and unstable or even painful feelings and thoughts arrive,
smile at them.. they can do you no harm, in the broad spectrum of life.
Remember that even if a doctor has diagnosed a problem in your mind
That's just what it is. A diagnosis... potentially helpful.
There's more to you than a diagnosis, in my opinion.





Thankyou for the insight. The doctor himself said that the diagnosis was merely a theory as to what was going on inside my brain.
I'm not going to let the diagnosis own my life, but I realize that I've been letting whatever it is that's been happening to me over the last few years totally own me. I've alienated myself from so many people and haven't felt like myself for so long and I'm sick of it.
I'm 22 and this is not how I want my life to be so I'm changing it and I'm going to do something I've never really done before - which is cooperate fully with the doctors I'm seeing, take the medication as prescribed, and try and be patient.


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