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Re: * Tasmania Season 2014 * [Re: Devoswitch]
    #20102152 - 06/08/14 08:27 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

Damn, I lost a big post I wrote here.

I'm not writing it all again, but long story short:

Obtuse
I am going to my spot now, will get a heap of photos of my supposed sulfur-tuft mushrooms - there is also a heap of other, what I think is, woodlover mushrooms.

I will be keeping my eye out also for any other sub-like mushrooms that seem to have a partial-annulus.

Devoswitch and Bagurk

I wrote a lengthy reply about the subjectivity of taste, and also my experiences eating A. muscaria raw vs cooked vs boiled and strained - I suggest you read the article I posted above as it has some great cooking instructions.

Also, if you do choose to proceed with experimenting with A. muscaria - either culinary or visionary - make sure to research thoroughly and start slow and low. There is a lot of anecdotal information regarding the effects of Ibotenic acid and Muscimol.

Stay safe!


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Re: * Tasmania Season 2014 * [Re: bcaapi]
    #20102711 - 06/08/14 11:07 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

Thanks mate. That's a very interesting article.


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Re: * Tasmania Season 2014 * [Re: bcaapi]
    #20102796 - 06/08/14 11:42 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

went for a walk a couple of days back and it was just amazing.
HABITAT SHOT

This was one of the many big ones i found, nearly 5.5cm in diameter.

was curious about the red shaded areas

it was a good day. had about 200. they were found all along the road to the top of the mountain. i left heaps more, probably thousands because it was tiring to stop every 2-3 mins along a 15km road.

these looked interesting, any id?


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Re: * Tasmania Season 2014 * [Re: Devoswitch]
    #20102869 - 06/09/14 12:03 AM (9 years, 7 months ago)

Hello all :thumbup:

Hello Obtuse. I asked about when in the growth process of a mushroom do spores predominantly get released (or is it a slow continual process?)
because I have started to become more aware of the fact that if I take younger mushrooms, that I am somewhat decreasing the likelihood of new areas becoming fruitful, or at least,
that the area it was taking from will not regenerate as much as it could.

I know that I am a selfish person (trying to change this). So i'd appreciate your thoughts on when a mushroom is ok to pick please.

I did notice that spores (dark coloration right under the cap caught in the web like web), do get released even from a young mushroom (i'd call this a young specimen)

But, I hope to wait until they have released a large amount of spores before taking them.

Maybe i'm worrying too much? I don't know?  Basically, i'm trying to be a better hunter, not just for me, but for others too.


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Re: * Tasmania Season 2014 * [Re: blessed]
    #20103124 - 06/09/14 01:14 AM (9 years, 7 months ago)

Blessed, if you are picking from well established patches you don't need to worry so much about picking slightly immature specimens.

If you're picking from a new area that you're not familiar with and there are only a limited amount, best to leave the immature ones and come back another time for them when the caps are completely open.

Personally, I know all my patches well, and I pick at most stages of growth (although not tiny pins, I leave them) because I know from past experience that it doesn't negatively effect my patches.

I guess it's up to you when you decide to pick  them... obviously the more spores that get spread around the better, but at the same time for every sub you do pick, there is probably another well hidden one close by that you don't pick which will release spores. At least that's my take on it.


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Re: * Tasmania Season 2014 * [Re: blessed]
    #20103305 - 06/09/14 01:40 AM (9 years, 7 months ago)

Hi Blessed,

thanks for the reminder.  i need a gentle prod now and then lol.

Mushrooms start sporulating as soon as the partial veil/ veil has dropped,  i would guess that spore production increases as the caps keep getting bigger and open out.  thats in perfect conditions.  At a certain point the fruiting body would start running out of energy and start to die, and spores would slowly stop.

remember spores are for spreading the population to new areas.  in terms of maintaining an existing population i would think breaking up the mycelium and spreading it around, as happens when the possums and bandicoots etc start digging up a patch, is a more valuable way to increase a patch.  i remember reading that spores are inhibited from germination by exudates from mycelium, so new spores may not germinate within your patch.

if your worried about spores not spreading to other areas, you can always spore print and spread them yourself.  But they are incredibly resilient.  I know that i was inadvertently responsible for introducing Psilocybe semilanceata to Bruny Island only with my boots, so i wonder how far and wide i have spread other mushroom species.  and this is why Psilocybe subaeruginosa is so damned common along walking tracks.

of course if your going to pick the mushrooms the best time to pick is at peak maturity of the fruiting body.  but this can be hard to tell. i guess when the cap is fully open.  remember by that time many millions of spores have been released so don't stress about it too much.

Have you read Mycelium Running by Paul Stamets, this may be a good time.


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Re: * Tasmania Season 2014 * *DELETED* [Re: obtuse]
    #20103369 - 06/09/14 02:15 AM (9 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: * Tasmania Season 2014 * [Re: ayepeacee]
    #20104683 - 06/09/14 11:21 AM (9 years, 7 months ago)

Thank you Nevermind and Obtuse :thumbup:

Thanks to you both for your advice and thoughts, concerning my last post and my questions over the last three years. :cheers:

I'm not gonna worry so much about it then  :thumbup:, but I still will aim for a certain size (wanna help those spores do their thing).
About that book Obtuse, I haven't got it yet, but I think now would be a good time :thumbup:


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Re: * Tasmania Season 2014 * [Re: bcaapi]
    #20106728 - 06/09/14 06:48 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:


Devoswitch and Bagurk

I wrote a lengthy reply about the subjectivity of taste, and also my experiences eating A. muscaria raw vs cooked vs boiled and strained - I suggest you read the article I posted above as it has some great cooking instructions.

Also, if you do choose to proceed with experimenting with A. muscaria - either culinary or visionary - make sure to research thoroughly and start slow and low. There is a lot of anecdotal information regarding the effects of Ibotenic acid and Muscimol.

Stay safe!




Isn't it always the way with large posts? :frown: I tend to write in a auto saving text editor before pasting nowadays ... :|

The article is great, I'm going to give it a try, but as you say will be reading around a bit for a while first. To date the trip reports I have read aren't that appealing, but it's an experience I one day wish to take ... my partner is a great sitter :smile:


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Re: * Tasmania Season 2014 * [Re: Bagurk]
    #20106779 - 06/09/14 06:55 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

G. luteus?


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Re: * Tasmania Season 2014 * [Re: maynardjameskeenan]
    #20108132 - 06/10/14 02:53 AM (9 years, 7 months ago)

The description of that spot-glensheperd1990 is very similar to one I frequent, your pics look very similar. Think I may have found a few you dropped(or someone anyway..), and many more. They are literally everywhere if you have a good look, just keep it secret ahaha!








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Invisiblebcaapi

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Re: * Tasmania Season 2014 * [Re: maynardjameskeenan]
    #20108688 - 06/10/14 06:42 AM (9 years, 7 months ago)

Bagurk
Be aware that trip reports for Amanita muscaria are notoriously unreliable due to the variation in preparation before ingestion for each person, and the variation of potency for every mushroom.

One person may be eating it raw, another may be eating it cooked.
Most frustrating of all is when the trip-reporter says that they ate x amount of DRIED A. muscaria but does not say whether the mushroom was sun-dried or not. Also, many reports never mention whether the mushroom was dried, powdered and homogenised to balance potency. A. muscaria potency varies from mushroom to mushroom. It's meaningless to state that you ate 2 - 3 - 4 caps of A. muscaria, if you can't say what the predominant psychoactive chemical it contained, or in what amounts.

Without this type of specific information, these reports are pretty useless and it leads to a bewildering array of inconsistent and vastly different experiences. Whether someone was intoxicated from Ibotenic acid or Muscimol, what is essentially being compared is two quite different psychoactives.

Nice harvests glensheperd1990 and Subhunter!

Obtuse
Here is the link to my ID thread, RE: Hypholoma fasciculare:
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20108483#20108483

Also, I found another subaeruginosa-like mushroom with an annulus-like marking on it, in case you are interested.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20108651#20108651


Yesterday's highlights:


Found these two amongst that very thick 'bladegrass' type plant in the background:


See you next week:


Should have seen you last week!:


I left these six caps to spore on this area:


I also found a few growing directly off wood:


Happy Hunting!


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Re: * Tasmania Season 2014 * [Re: bcaapi]
    #20108860 - 06/10/14 07:50 AM (9 years, 7 months ago)

Well done guys on finding decent patches and decent sized ones too!! :thumbup:

Here's a mushroom I found a little while ago, not an active, but different to your usual run of the mill mushrooms.



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Re: * Tasmania Season 2014 * [Re: bcaapi]
    #20110645 - 06/10/14 04:48 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

bcaapi said:
Found these two amongst that very thick 'bladegrass' type plant in the background:





The 'blade grass' is Carex appressa


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Re: * Tasmania Season 2014 * [Re: Tas75]
    #20111183 - 06/10/14 06:53 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

They get so tall when growing from long grass. Must be trying to get clear so they can disperse their spores into the wind.  Nice pics blessed. They remind me of a blister :-)


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Re: * Tasmania Season 2014 * [Re: blessed]
    #20111657 - 06/10/14 09:00 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

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blessed said:

Here's a mushroom I found a little while ago, not an active, but different to your usual run of the mill mushrooms.






Very erotic, Blessed - immediately reminded me of an HR Giger landscape somehow. Very cool.


Tas75
Thanks for the name, cheers :smile:


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Re: * Tasmania Season 2014 * [Re: bcaapi]
    #20118370 - 06/12/14 08:41 AM (9 years, 7 months ago)

Thanks Devoswitch and bcaapi. It sure is different :wowz: :mushroomtwirl:

Btw, for all of you who carry scissors, this is for you.

After stabbing myself (and cutting my pants) this idea came to me.

Basically it's just the cap for a pen that you place over the end of the scissors. I was lucky, first time I got the right combo (nice & tight). saves from those painful moments.
:utterconfusion:


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Re: * Tasmania Season 2014 * [Re: blessed]
    #20120325 - 06/12/14 05:27 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

Haha, that's a nice invention you've got there, Blessed! Good thinking.
I'd totally use that if I carried scissors


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Re: * Tasmania Season 2014 * [Re: Nevermind]
    #20121570 - 06/12/14 08:55 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

What do you use in place of scissors?


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Re: * Tasmania Season 2014 * [Re: mushroom_spider]
    #20121711 - 06/12/14 09:18 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

I used a knife during my first year of hunting.

These days I don't use anything. I just pull the mushrooms out with my fingers. I've been doing it for 3 years and there has been no noticeable effects on my patches. They all continue to fruit each year with approximately the same amount of mushrooms, give or take. These are all well established patches I pick in with strong mycelium networks.

I don't believe scissors are necessary. Further more, if the police happen to stumble upon you with a pair of scissors or a knife it's something you can be charged for. I've had some close calls with police while picking before and I would not want to be caught with a bag of mushrooms and a potential weapon.


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