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Invisiblebcaapi

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Re: * Tasmania Season 2014 * [Re: indica]
    #20045647 - 05/27/14 03:27 AM (9 years, 8 months ago)

Hey everyone,

I've been out looking for P. subaeruginosa about 3 times in the last month and I'm not finding any whatsoever. I've been to a couple of renown spots just outside of Launceston, but I feel that these areas may not be worth it any more due to the excessive and careless picking that I have witnessed over the years.

Anyhow, I have found countless Amanita Muscaria at many spots (yes, that was a pun) and I've been drying them out and putting into storage to save for a sunny day (decarboxylation with UV etc...).

Going to go for a walk around a couple of completely different locations tomorrow in search of P. subs.

I know I'm looking in the right habitat, and I know exactly what I'm looking for, just not having any luck I think.

Beware beware. Finding a lot of look alikes though, check these out!

Anyone know what they are?





Habitat shot


Edited by bcaapi (05/27/14 03:29 AM)


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Re: * Tasmania Season 2014 * [Re: bcaapi]
    #20045682 - 05/27/14 03:56 AM (9 years, 8 months ago)

They are Cortinarius austrovenetus (aka Dermocybe austroveneta).


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Re: * Tasmania Season 2014 * [Re: TimmiT]
    #20045727 - 05/27/14 04:47 AM (9 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks TimmiT! Wish I saw them while they were still green, they're very impressive.


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Re: * Tasmania Season 2014 * [Re: bcaapi]
    #20046156 - 05/27/14 09:29 AM (9 years, 7 months ago)

I have well and truly fallen behind this year.  hope your all enjoying getting out and finding some great specimens.  some stunning photos this year.

Blessed loving what your finding for us, im very jealous.  and i'll respond to your post soon.

bit of a shit of a year for me this year, as was last year, but hey ill be out into the forests soon enough.


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Re: * Tasmania Season 2014 * [Re: obtuse]
    #20049722 - 05/28/14 01:52 AM (9 years, 7 months ago)

Can anyone tell me anything about these? The only information I can give is they're from the North part of Tasmania, quite likely the North-West.

They're rather poor photos in terms of light so I apologize for that, don't have a better option.













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Re: * Tasmania Season 2014 * [Re: Condorcet]
    #20049736 - 05/28/14 02:07 AM (9 years, 7 months ago)

They look like subs but as you said, hard to tell from the photos and the mushrooms are little outta shape.


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Re: * Tasmania Season 2014 * [Re: HookerWithAPenis]
    #20049851 - 05/28/14 03:13 AM (9 years, 7 months ago)

Some of them look a bit manky and the photos aren't great, but I beleive they're subs.

Check for blue bruising, and spore print on foil any you're not sure of.


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Re: * Tasmania Season 2014 * [Re: Nevermind]
    #20049945 - 05/28/14 03:46 AM (9 years, 7 months ago)

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Nevermind said:
Some of them look a bit manky and the photos aren't great, but I beleive they're subs.

Check for blue bruising, and spore print on foil any you're not sure of.





I'm not sure what blue bruising is or what you meant about the spore print will do some quick research. Thank you.


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They look like subs but as you said, hard to tell from the photos and the mushrooms are little outta shape.




Appreciate the response. Tried for some better pictures using a lamp but not sure if it'll help at all.





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Re: * Tasmania Season 2014 * [Re: Condorcet]
    #20049959 - 05/28/14 03:53 AM (9 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah, they're subs. Wait on a TI if you wish, however. Also, I wouldn't eat any that look like the specimens in the first 2 photos if I were you. Nice hunting :thumbup:


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Re: * Tasmania Season 2014 * [Re: HookerWithAPenis]
    #20049965 - 05/28/14 03:58 AM (9 years, 7 months ago)

Third photo looks nice I'd be munging down on those!

but the first two photos look manky man - feed em to the wallabies!


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Re: * Tasmania Season 2014 * [Re: Condorcet]
    #20049990 - 05/28/14 04:14 AM (9 years, 7 months ago)

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Condorcet said:

I'm not sure what blue bruising is or what you meant about the spore print will do some quick research. Thank you.






Blue bruising is exactly what it sounds like... I don't know how to explain it in a more simple way... Squeeze the stems or caps of the mushrooms, you should notice some blue staining within a few minutes.

To make a spore print, remove the cap from the stem and place it on a piece of foil (with the gills facing down on the foil) and let sit for 12 hours or so. You should notice a spore print after this time, which is another way to help identify your finds. The print should be purple/black


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Re: * Tasmania Season 2014 * [Re: Nevermind]
    #20050065 - 05/28/14 05:07 AM (9 years, 7 months ago)

From what i can see they all look like Psilocybe subaeruginosa.

but to be on the safe side, made sure they all stain blue.  i can see the bluing on a few, but you want all to do the same.  as mentioned, pinch the stem, where its damaged the psilocybin will oxidise with oxygen to turn blue.

there are a heap of older ones, where the caps have become brittle.  id chuck a lot of those caps but check the stem to see if they are worth keeping.

There are a few manky older (as others have already mentioned) ones that i wouldn't bother with keeping.  better to have a good clean experience rather than give yourself a bout of food poisoning into the bargain.


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Re: * Tasmania Season 2014 * [Re: obtuse]
    #20050106 - 05/28/14 05:27 AM (9 years, 7 months ago)

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From what i can see they all look like Psilocybe subaeruginosa.

but to be on the safe side, made sure they all stain blue.  i can see the bluing on a few, but you want all to do the same.  as mentioned, pinch the stem, where its damaged the psilocybin will oxidise with oxygen to turn blue.

there are a heap of older ones, where the caps have become brittle.  id chuck a lot of those caps but check the stem to see if they are worth keeping.

There are a few manky older (as others have already mentioned) ones that i wouldn't bother with keeping.  better to have a good clean experience rather than give yourself a bout of food poisoning into the bargain.





Thank you for the helpful information and same for the other 3 of you before this one I'm quoting.

I had one quick follow up about the "there are a heap of older ones, where the caps have become brittle.  id chuck a lot of those caps but check the stem to see if they are worth keeping."

Can you tell just a bit more about the "worth keeping" part. What exactly determines if it is worth keeping and what the actual issue is when it's brittle for example or a bit older. Goes a bit off topic from this actually topic possibly.


On topic though I am trying out some of the nicer, newer looking small ones. All confirmed to bruise blue and tasted terrible, will see how it goes. :smile:


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Re: * Tasmania Season 2014 * [Re: Condorcet]
    #20050213 - 05/28/14 06:45 AM (9 years, 7 months ago)

Please use scissors and don't pick babies(pins)... Until you learn a bit more


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Re: * Tasmania Season 2014 * [Re: Signeg]
    #20050312 - 05/28/14 07:32 AM (9 years, 7 months ago)

I actually pull out over half of any subs I pick  by the'roots' then chop the stem butt off in the patch and bury it close by in some leaves. I firmly believe this helps them spread and I have seen a new patch start with vigour from this method. Sub mycelium is very hardy and aggressive...


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Re: * Tasmania Season 2014 * [Re: Signeg]
    #20050324 - 05/28/14 07:36 AM (9 years, 7 months ago)

I guess what i meant about the caps, is that they are the first to start rotting, and can often get "slushy".  this is where bacteria is most likely to start developing, and also maggots.

the stem are very fibrous, and as long as they show no signs of rot are probably ok to keep.  when they get brittle chuck them.

as mentioned try not to harvest those smaller examples where the caps havent fully opened, let them sporulate a bit before picking.


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Re: * Tasmania Season 2014 * *DELETED* [Re: Signeg]
    #20050468 - 05/28/14 08:31 AM (9 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: * Tasmania Season 2014 * [Re: Signeg]
    #20050907 - 05/28/14 10:29 AM (9 years, 7 months ago)

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Mycelium is also fragile and beautiful :tongue:




I am very much of the opinion that mushroom mycelium is insanely hardy.  we underestimate how much strength and ferocity it has.

certainly is beautiful, but P. subaeruginosa is a freaking weed, and will run like crazy, and gobble up substrate very quickly.

have you seen the pics of Stamets' with the mycelium holding the dowels.

I am also of the opinion that that breaking mycelium helps to promote its growth, as with cutting back plants, it increases the vigour, certainly aint fragile.

i like the idea of spreading stem butts, replicates what animals do to patches, especially this time of the year as the possums and bandicots get in there and spead mycelium like crazy as they dig it up.


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Re: * Tasmania Season 2014 * [Re: Condorcet]
    #20052351 - 05/28/14 04:54 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

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Condorcet said:

On topic though I am trying out some of the nicer, newer looking small ones. All confirmed to bruise blue and tasted terrible, will see how it goes. :smile:




If you are worried about the taste there are a few ways to get around that.  A food dehydrator is a worthy investment.  You could dry them, then powder them and put them in chocolate.  Or spread the powder on a peanut butter sandwich.  Or use the "lemon tek" method.  Or make a tea with the shroom pieces and add in your favourite flavourings (ginger goes well).  There are many options to make them more palatable than chowing down on fresh ones.

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Re: * Tasmania Season 2014 * [Re: mushroom_spider]
    #20053970 - 05/28/14 11:28 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

Found another patch today, in a bad spot though.. Right on the edge of a major road. The fact I could see a heap from the road makes me think others have seen them, maybe not, midnight mission tonight!

What do people think about telling the school what I found in the garden bed? It's in an early child section... My girl is a teacher and went spaz because I didn't tell anyone. Thoughts?


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