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OfflineWillsk8t4shrooms
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Oats? Urgent
    #4993643 - 11/29/05 10:57 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

I used the search and couldn't find much about using oats. This is my 3rd time growing and I want to use BRF+Oats in a 1/2 pint cake. :confused: Is this possible if so what are the ratios to BRF, Oats,Verm. Do I prepare it the same way as a regular BRF cake. Mix whole oats(rolled?)verm and BRF add water and sterilize. I'm inoculating with a spore syringe. Any answers are much appreciated.


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Re: Oats? Urgent [Re: Willsk8t4shrooms]
    #19811603 - 04/08/14 03:22 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

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Willsk8t4shrooms said:
I used the search and couldn't find much about using oats. This is my 3rd time growing and I want to use BRF+Oats in a 1/2 pint cake. :confused: Is this possible if so what are the ratios to BRF, Oats,Verm. Do I prepare it the same way as a regular BRF cake. Mix whole oats(rolled?)verm and BRF add water and sterilize. I'm inoculating with a spore syringe. Any answers are much appreciated.



hey i no this threads old but did you have any look with oats?


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Re: Oats? Urgent [Re: tommyg615]
    #19811886 - 04/08/14 07:03 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

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Willsk8t4shrooms said:
I used the search and couldn't find much about using oats. This is my 3rd time growing and I want to use BRF+Oats in a 1/2 pint cake. :confused: Is this possible if so what are the ratios to BRF, Oats,Verm. Do I prepare it the same way as a regular BRF cake. Mix whole oats(rolled?)verm and BRF add water and sterilize. I'm inoculating with a spore syringe. Any answers are much appreciated.



hey i no this threads old but did you have any look with oats?




What is your perceived benefit from using oats?  What are you trying to accomplish?


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Re: Oats? Urgent [Re: Adept]
    #19811895 - 04/08/14 07:09 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

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Willsk8t4shrooms said:
I used the search and couldn't find much about using oats. This is my 3rd time growing and I want to use BRF+Oats in a 1/2 pint cake. :confused: Is this possible if so what are the ratios to BRF, Oats,Verm. Do I prepare it the same way as a regular BRF cake. Mix whole oats(rolled?)verm and BRF add water and sterilize. I'm inoculating with a spore syringe. Any answers are much appreciated.



hey i no this threads old but did you have any look with oats?




What is your perceived benefit from using oats?  What are you trying to accomplish?



ive read vague threads numerous times that state adding oats to a brf mixture yields more fruit than brf alone, bug i have never tryed wasnt going to try till id heard it from an educated proven grower tho first.


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Re: Oats? Urgent [Re: tommyg615]
    #19811906 - 04/08/14 07:18 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

Not sure you'll be hearing much from OP. hasn't been seen in 2 years


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Re: Oats? Urgent [Re: ChillbroSwaggins]
    #19811916 - 04/08/14 07:22 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

whats the sentance for cultivation these days...
only jokin still if yall no the ancer feel free to comment?


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Re: Oats? Urgent [Re: tommyg615]
    #19811921 - 04/08/14 07:25 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

I think your just going to have to experiment to find your answer.


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Re: Oats? Urgent [Re: Smokey-hitz]
    #19811924 - 04/08/14 07:27 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

agreed. :wink: probebly the most fun option


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Re: Oats? Urgent [Re: Smokey-hitz]
    #19811927 - 04/08/14 07:28 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

From a Thread search for "oats" with "Trusted Cultivator" as filter, found RR giving you an answer on what to try...

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sorry guys i don't post much in this forum so excuse me if this topic has already been discussed.

i just loaded about half oats (the one with the pilgrim on it, quaker actually) and half vermiculate. currenly PCing about 30min. in. should be ready as the grains won't take long to cook at all.





Your best bet is to follow the brf tek, substituting the oats for the rice flour.  You'll need to make a syringe from the print, or order one.
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Re: Oats? Urgent [Re: Adept]
    #19811934 - 04/08/14 07:31 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

Or to quote Doc from same thread:

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Doc_T said:
Free thinking is great. Fucking around wasting time and materials isn't.
I could tell you why I think using rolled oats as a substitute for BRF in PF jars isn't going to work, but I can't be bothered with it.
An experienced grower might be able to make it work to some extent- this guy won't be able to.

And that's why you read so many posts saying "follow the tek", because we know it will work.
Not following the tek, that may work but probably wont.

You want to grow mushrooms, follow the tek.




More fun reading...
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/13239438#13239438


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Re: Oats? Urgent [Re: Adept]
    #19812028 - 04/08/14 08:14 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

isnt a substitute diffrent to addind aswell as tho, coffee isnt a substitute but alot of people add it same as gypsum, im sticking with brf as im new but i thort everyone would have recipe similar to that of a chef for makink cakes with many ingredients they have picked up over the years, is this not the case?


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Re: Oats? Urgent [Re: Adept]
    #19812126 - 04/08/14 08:43 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

Isn't it a good idea to switch up spawn and media every once in a while to help preserve a culture and/or genetics? I'm starting to use oats in some of my agar for this reason. So far in the agar the oats have seemed to work just fine.


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Re: Oats? Urgent [Re: tommyg615]
    #19812327 - 04/08/14 09:50 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

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tommyg615 said:
isnt a substitute diffrent to addind aswell as tho, coffee isnt a substitute but alot of people add it same as gypsum, im sticking with brf as im new but i thort everyone would have recipe similar to that of a chef for makink cakes with many ingredients they have picked up over the years, is this not the case?





I think your indirectly making the same point Doc is making above....

A chef has been educated, or experienced enough, to prepare the original dish then can adjust based on that knowledge to what he likes.

When you nail down the "standards" then try to make it yours.


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Re: Oats? Urgent [Re: tommyg615]
    #19812584 - 04/08/14 10:49 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

adding oats to a PF cake is only going to dilute the cake. BRF is the most nutritious substrate commonly used in mushroom cultivation. You could make Oat flower and substitute it for the BRF but you'll also have to toy around with the water since oats are going to have a different level of starch and thus absorption. People use WBS flour instead of BRF all the time, you could use rye flour or oat flour too but you might as well just use BRF and if you cant find BRF just buy some really cheap brown rice and grind it yourself.

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isnt a substitute diffrent to addind aswell as tho, coffee isnt a substitute but alot of people add it same as gypsum, im sticking with brf as im new but i thort everyone would have recipe similar to that of a chef for makink cakes with many ingredients they have picked up over the years, is this not the case?



I'm not always a grammar nazi but when I am it's because you couldn't even convey what you wanted to say because you wrote it so shitty.

no it's not the case, coffee is great for soaking grains in, coffee leads to contamination when used in substrates more often than not, that's why most cultivators say it's not worth it and don't bother except when soaking grains. Gypsum is great it's a tried and true time tested additive. People have tried adding everything else from worm casings to coffee grounds to honey etc... you're not finding out anything new you're just repeating others mistakes at this point.


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Re: Oats? Urgent [Re: bodhisatta]
    #19812767 - 04/08/14 11:35 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

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you're not finding out anything new you're just repeating others mistakes at this point.




or, it could be said, he's experiencing history.  If you wanted a positive view on it.  :shrug:


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Re: Oats? Urgent [Re: Adept]
    #19812773 - 04/08/14 11:36 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

:lol:


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